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24 Feb 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 24th February 2021

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23 Feb 2021 22:10:02
Is English football back on the way up?
Chelsea looked a far better team than the top team in last liga .
English team haven't lost so far in this round of Europe
Couple of Stand out team psg and munich but apart from them?

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23 Feb 2021 23:08:31
Was it ever really down? English teams constantly in the semi finals/ finals over the last 5 years.

Liverpool and Chelsea still have work to do in their ties. On the flip side of that argument, you have the 3rd best English side being knocked out by the 3rd best German side in the group stages. So swings and roundabouts.

24 Feb 2021 05:57:12
Makes our exit at the group stage even more dissapointing.

With our counter attacking threat and ability to defend deeper we could have done well in the knockout rounds of the champions league.

PSG, Munich and City are the only teams that look top quality at the moment.

24 Feb 2021 07:21:45
Agree dsg. But we were one martial tap in and a silly Fred challenge deo knocking out the finalists.

{Ed077's Note - All ifs and buts... Man Utd didn't go through though in reality.}

24 Feb 2021 08:03:26
I think people have been question the quality of the epl this year .
It's never stronger than some think?

{Ed077's Note - Sorry what do you mean? The post is a bit unclear 😂😂}

24 Feb 2021 10:54:01
Should be, it's maybe stronger than some think .

{Ed077's Note - oh that's better😂}

24 Feb 2021 11:18:29
I watch a lot of European football, and bar those few top teams that play in the ECL or the Europa league the quality of many of the sides in big leagues such as La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga are equal to top half sides in the Championship.

It's why often we see a player such as Kagawa or Mkhitaryan who tore up the Bundesliga move to the EPL and struggle. For most players if you score 20 goals in the Bundesliga or Serie A then you might get 10 if you're lucky in the EPL.

The only thing which I think is on the whole stronger in many of the main land Europe leagues is the level of coaching. Far more coaches qualified to a far superior level who don't stop learning once they get a top job but continue to grow and evolve as the game does. British coaches tend to be a little simplistic in their approach and rarely show any sign of growth or development in their techniques as they age.

24 Feb 2021 12:06:12
The prem has been terrible for me, no fans, VAR ruining the game, refs inconsistent, players diving, nobody knows what handball is anymore, games either complete dross or like a basketball match because without fan pressure there is no intensity or responsibility from most, saturated with live games, I'm rapidly losing interest in the game as a whole tbh. Fans back for the last game is a joke sure Newcastle will be hugely happy if they need to neat Fulham, maybe when it's full attendances and VAR is either used properly or scrapped will it get better.

24 Feb 2021 12:16:11
Are the Spanish teams suffering because they have not had the usual Christmas break, so no time to recover.

{Ed077's Note - Or they aren't that great teams anymore. Both Barca and Real Madrid have much weaker squads than in the past few years and Atleti sometimes suffer from Simeone's defensive attitude and approach to games.

24 Feb 2021 12:52:30
As always it is a combination of factors Ed. Barcelona and Real have both benefitted from having Messi and Ronaldo in their prime, sharing 6 CLs back to back says everything. Now we are nack to the age of Bayern, it would be no surprise if they go level with Milan this year in number of CLs won.

{Ed077's Note - agreed that there are more than 1 thing at play ,most of the time.}

24 Feb 2021 13:33:24
We're dominating both European competitions now that we don't have Platini suppressing the English clubs.

Funny that.

{Ed077's Note - where was Platini when Man Utd made two back to back CL finals and 3 in 4 years. Where was he when 3 of the 4 semifinalists were English sides in back to back seasons?}

23 Feb 2021 21:52:33
Been watching Athletico v Chelsea. Will not be an easy game for us this weekend. Chelsea are now very well organised.

On a different note watching Jao Felix makes me wonder if he is given lots of abuse by his fans when as tonight he seems vv quiet and does not affect the game. He was signed for big money and I know he is young but has done nothing special tonight.

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24 Feb 2021 06:08:39
Salford, I probably haven't seen enough of athletic or felix to judge but from the little I've seen I'd say it's down to simeones negative tactics that we don't see much of what felix can do.

24 Feb 2021 12:22:42
So far its 2-2 in Tuchel v Ole, interestingly the home manager has never won in this match up.

24 Feb 2021 13:04:33
You may be right wiggy but when Ronaldo was with us at a similar age he was already having a major impact.

{Ed077's Note - but Ronaldo wasn't playing in a defensive side like Felix is.}

23 Feb 2021 19:21:32
United games have had more goals in them than any other PL team this season, Leeds are right behind us. We are top scorers but also slightly dodgy in defence so no surprise I guess.

{Ed077's Note - Don't forget the penalty schtick as well Tony

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23 Feb 2021 19:41:16
Slightly inflated by 2/ 25 games having 16 goals in them

Spurs 6-1 and southampton 9-0.

But i agree with your conclusions ajh, definitely dodgy in defence, thankfully rashford and bruno are carrying the team in attack.

23 Feb 2021 21:59:33
Dsg if united have scored more goals than any other team in the epl does that say more than "rash and bruno are carrying us "
Dies every team not rely on certain players?

24 Feb 2021 06:02:33
Jred, not particuarly if you consider rashford has got 9 goals and 6 assists this season, bruno 15 goals and 10 assists. Fair enough there will be some crossover where they've assisted each other but that's still over 50% of our goals coming from 2 individuals.

Of course certain teams rely on certain players but the extent of that reliance is important. Look at spurs as an example, they are so reliant on kane and son the rest of the team is basically redundant when it comes to attacking.

Dont have the statistics to hand but id hazard a guess the top teams in europe spread their goals around a bit more than us.

24 Feb 2021 11:03:07
Dsg we are top goal scores in the league and rash has only scored 9 league goals .
If you look at england Italy Spain and Germany only inter and Munich have scored more . Yet there are a lot of teams that have players who have scored more so maybe the goals aren't spread out as much as you think 🤔.

23 Feb 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 23rd February 2021

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23 Feb 2021 08:21:57
I am surprised (and happy) that Everton supporters didn't do omething similar to the Dortmund supporters after their victory at Anfield. :)

{Ed001's Note - they are still in shock I think.} Become a Patron!

22 Feb 2021 14:58:55
What would people's view be on naming rights for the stadium for a set period of say 5 years but the money had to go improving the stadium and transfers only not in the Glazers pocket. Yes I know it would be a pipe dream to even think they wouldn't pocket any money.

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22 Feb 2021 15:11:40
SAUDI ARAMCO ARENA. Has a decent ring to it lol.

22 Feb 2021 16:36:12
No. Just no!
The Glazers, whilst I detest them, have made plenty of money available for transfers. The money hasn’t been well spent by the right people.

22 Feb 2021 16:37:30
Not for me, Football needs to find a better balance between making money and keeping its soul.

The Glazers own Manchester United, ultimately it is their responsibility and really in their best interest to maintain the quality of their asset. So should be paying to maintain and improve the stadium.

The have found over a billion pounds for transfer fees and gods knows how much for wages and agents fees over the past 8 years. Fixing the stadium would cost a fraction of that.

22 Feb 2021 18:37:50
No - I hate these ‘branded’ stadiums.

22 Feb 2021 18:50:54
the stadium needs serious investment. i'm not in favour of using a sponsored name. But someone has to pay so it will come at the cost of squad investment primarily. More long finger stuff from the owners when it comes to club infrastructure.

22 Feb 2021 23:19:09
As mentioned above the Glazers have spent plenty funding player acquisitions. Not their fault so much was wasted by people they trusted to have a superior football knowledge to their own. They don't deserve such opprobrium.

If at all possible I would prefer there not to be ground naming rights but of it meant it resultes in a better aquas which consistently won titles then so be it.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m with you I think the Glazers are treated unfairly. What more can they do? They have dished out gazzilions season after season players yet they still get bashed. I don’t get it. By the way I loved the word OPPROBRIUM.

23 Feb 2021 00:33:48
Has anyone put our name down for the next council house that comes available in Manchester?

23 Feb 2021 06:33:37
The Glazers have spent the square root of sod all on anything, players or ground. They have put absolutely no money into the club themselves, so let’s stop this acceptance of their ownership.

They take their rightful dividends and whilst I haven’t reviewed accounts recently I believe there used to be consultancy fees as well.

They have saddled the club with hundreds of millions of debt that has done nothing at all for the club and the cost of such debt is well over a billion pounds since their takeover.

The ground is in need of update but don’t expect too much of that at all. It will be harder to justify their dividends in a financial mess so naming rights to get money in may well suit them to ensure continued dividends. It honestly made me sick to see our manager praise them the other day.

The Glazers have never spent a penny of their own money not the “gazillions” mentioned.

23 Feb 2021 08:27:57
Nobody can argue with the money spent on improving the squad, we’ve seen millions upon millions on player transfers and wages.

That money has been almost entirely wasted. The people in charge of where the pounds are spent are truly clueless and we see the same mistakes window to window, chasing what we can’t have and then over spending on 4th, 5th and 6th choice.

So yes we’ve absolutely had investment. We’ve spent just about as much as anyone else.

But I don’t feel sorry for the Glazers one bit. They might not make the decisions as to who we sign and who we renew, but they do employ the people making those decisions. They have the power to make personnel changes but it seems they’re happy with our current setup and until that changes we’ll have to continue to put up with the amateurs.

23 Feb 2021 09:41:41
When the City owners were putting a billion pound into their club over the course of a decade, we were spending a billion pound paying interest on a loan that has only been partially paid off.

This was when £30 million got you Aguero, Silva. Now £30 million gets you Diallo.

Watching Fergie say "There's no value in the market" is akin your father saying "We're not getting McDonalds, we have burgers at home".

Not for one instance saying we havnt spent money, but a billion pound in football, especially from the mid 2000s to now, could have made us the into the biggest club in the world.

There's plenty of money in football now. We're not at the top table anymore but we pretend we are, and that's all that matters.

23 Feb 2021 11:04:15
Personally I don't have anything against getting money this way, Esp if it is used to refurbish OT. It will always be known to us as old trafford a bit like st. james and sports direct. Names like Amazon Field and Microsoft Stadium (LOL) won't bother me knowing it will eventually revert to OT.

23 Feb 2021 11:47:47
If Old Trafford is to be refurbished then I think it only fair that there is a consultation process with the fans. My feeling for a while is that the way the parts and sections of the ground is marketed are like the sections of an aircraft. There is a premium experience with executive boxes and top cuisine and then match day experiences and finally the bulk of fans who bring in the majority of the matchday income are given sub-standard access (often crowded entrances and stairways) and exorbitant prices for refreshment and poor toilet areas.
Is this the way to reward loyalty. No wonder a lot of fans don't go regularly anymore.

23 Feb 2021 11:54:41
and yet they do nothing about the clowns wasting the money.

23 Feb 2021 11:49:53
maybe change this part of the website to the Utd Persiflage Page.

23 Feb 2021 13:36:28
spot on dazw.

23 Feb 2021 13:46:30
Redman. They own the club. Every penny spent is out of their pockets because if its not spent they would be entitled to take it.
Why should they put their own personal money into it.
The 2 lads that just bought asda have put none of their personal money in. Why should they?
Nothing wrong with the debt levels at United at all. Very serviceable and in great proportions to turnover.
Why should they spend their own cash? Very few owners of business that size in any sphere find company expenditure from their own pocket.

23 Feb 2021 14:32:50
Ken, you make fair points, but the counter argument is that because of how they bought the club, they have used club generated funds to service a debt they loaded onto the club. Very clever, very astute, but ultimately it has taken a phenomenal amount of money out of the club and into the hands of the banks. Money that could have been spent on players, OT, better training facilities, or God forbid, lower ticket prices.

23 Feb 2021 15:20:27
Tony, when we say about the huge amount of money that goes out to service the loan, there tends to be a general assumption that if the debt wasn't there then that cash would be spent on the club and not just leaving in dividends to the owners.

The truth is very few clubs since 2013 have out spent us world wide. The problem isn't a lack of spending, but a lack of leadership and direction at board level at our club.

I agree that for a period of time the debt certainly adversely impacted our ability to spend. Back between 2006-2013 the debt meant we couldn't keep up with the spending of new cash rich clubs such as PSG and City. Especially during the global economic crash we had to tighten our belts, and Sir Alex had to come out and say there was no value in the transfer market. Simply put during such financially unstable times we couldn't afford to get in to bidding wars with clubs that had bottomless pits of cash, and would always be able to throw an extra 5m on top of any fee we offered and an extra 20k a week for wages.

However since 2013 when the financial situation was more stable and the club had go the debt under control I doubt there are many if any side that has out spent us.

I fail to see how the Glazers are to blame for Di Maria flopping, or Sanchez, or the club massively overspending on players like Pogba, Lukaku and Maguire, all of whom were really only worth about half of what we paid for them at most.

Our poor defence isn't through a lack of spending, AWB 50m, Dalot 20m, Lindelof 32m, Rojo 16m, Bailly 35m, Maguire 80m, Shaw 30m, Alex Telles 16m. That's the best part of 280m worth of defenders. We spent Rolls Royce money on a fleet of Skoda's. That isn't due to a lack of funds but a lack of understanding and direction from the board.

With roughly 300m spent on midfielders (Schneiderlin, Blind, Schweinstieger, Herrera, Fellaini, Fred, Donny and Pogba) it isn't a lack of spending that has caused McFred to be our best midfield pairing, but quite simply poor recruitment.

Same thing when people are crying out for 120m to be spent on Sancho or Haaland, saying we need quality forwards. Well we spent 320m on Mata, Di Maria, Falcao, Depay, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Ibrahimovic, Lukaku, Sanchez and James.

Those figures are just what we have spent on transfer fees and don't take into consideration agents fees, wages or the increase in wages and agents fees paid when renegotiating player contracts.

Over 1 billion in transfer fees and at least 500m on wages and agents fees over a 8 year period should be more than sufficient to be a top side challenging for major honours on all fronts. Many of our rivals are doing so on much less than we spent and was in a far poorer position than we were 8 years ago in terms of quality of squad.

We are where we are not due to a lack of spending, as quite clearly there has been plenty of spending. No we are where we are due to an incompetence at board level, people unwilling to let go of power, but without the needed skills or knowledge to wield that power. No clear vision or direction, rudderless and completely devoid of knowhow. We have Woodward boasting how much money we have then looking bemused when clubs expect us to pay top dollar for their players.

Total inadequacy, incompetence, and shameless power grabbing by utter armatures.

The only thing we can blame the Glazers for is not sacking the lot of them and bringing in people who know what they are doing.

{Ed0666's Note - who the fook are you? Whoever you are mate you deserve a medal post of the day! And the grammar police said you couldn’t use paragraphs.

23 Feb 2021 15:33:44
Shaps, the only thing I am blaming them for is using the club's own money to buy the club and service the debt.

Who knows what else the money would have been used for but we would have been able to outbid pretty much everybody for any player.

{Ed077's Note - which we have done in almost every case. We have very rarely been outbid for any player who was willing to come to us.}

23 Feb 2021 17:00:42
Spot on Mumbles. the amount of players Fergie missed out on was terrible. Either that of the scouting system was non existent.

23 Feb 2021 17:44:52
Simo, I think the difference is that Fergie didn't need to by Di Maria, Falcao, Schweinsteiger, Pogba, Sanchez and Ibrahimovic. We didn't get Ronaldinho so we got Ronaldo and so on.

I think we've over-spent as a way to compensate for not having the best manager since post-Ferguson. It could be that the amateurs approach was to bring in the biggest names and they'll win us the league.

With Fergie we had a manager capable of relating to players and recruiting players based on their personalities and potential. Left field signing became legends because of mentality.

We've not had that since Fergie retired. Moyes wasn't up to it, LVG and Mourinho are dinosaurs of the game and Ole is Ole.

From the outside it looks like we've tried to assemble the Harlem Globetrotters with a who's who of A1 football names based on their FIFA rating. A clear change in strategy in an attempt to buy our way back to the top as we no longer have one of the greatest managers of all time.

The reality now is that some of our best players are from the academy and those A1 names we signed during the past 8 years are nothing but journeymen, with none of them contributing much at all to the club.

We may as well have driven up and down the M56 in an Alfa Romeo throwing £50 notes out of the window, and written a few seasons off to play the kids.
We'd still have none of those journeymen with us now (bar Pogba) and there'd be a few less homeless in Warrington, and we wouldn't be scratching our head wondering how in hell some people are still in a job.

{Ed077's Note - For every Cristiano Ronaldo you will find a Ruud van Nistelrooy or Juan Sebastian Veron. Every Vidic will have Rio Ferdinand on the other side of the spectrum. SAF was a great great manager but lets not try to re-write history and pretend like Fergie never signed players for big bucks. Granted our recruitement has been poor as a whole but Man Utd did have some stinkers under Fergie too. SAF would no doubt do better with the players at the club have but some of the issue that Man Utd have had to deal with after his departure were there when he was still around.

23 Feb 2021 17:51:31
Ed, I’m thinking back to SAF’s no value in the market comments, there was a long time when we didn’t seem to want to compete. Moyes and LVG both said they didn’t get the o, Ayers they wanted and there are rumours that Ole finds himself i the same boat.

Of course, this could be down to sheet incompetence as opposed to funds.

{Ed077's Note - Didnt Moyes pull the plug on the deals the club had arranged before his arrival like the likes of Thiago? Its hard to abandon the deals that were near completion and then go after other players, who didnt want to leave their clubs and werent necessarily up for sale at that point on time.

LVG got Blind, Depay, Rojo, Romero, Valdes(?), Di Maria among others. No manager or club gets all the first choice players they targeted.

The homegrown/english player policy is largely down to Ole or so they make out. I am pretty certain Maguire was an Ole signing or else he wouldnt have been made club captain within 6 months and AWB was an Ole signing. Dan James was signed because Ole wanted him after Giggs' recommendation.

The club could do more to back the manager, to improve the club but they have gone someway in backing the managers they appointed. Jose is the one guy that seemed to lose confidence and support from the board so soon

23 Feb 2021 21:21:30
Ken

The Glazers own the club. Every penny spent is out of Uniteds pockets not theirs and that is how it works.

If you want to talk about debt, then gearing can be good for a business, yet it is how the money is used that matters, what it does for the business. The debt foisted on United has done absolutely nothing for the club, except massively increase costs to service it. It is not being paid off just serviced.

The fact is that the amount of those loans and the cost didn’t benefit the club means the gearing is not comparable to other debt in most businesses, so that whilst it may be serviceable and it may be proportional to other financial numbers, it really does not portray a figure that can be compared with most other geared positions.

You say very few owners of business that size in any sphere find company expenditure from their own pocket. Ok, what about Chelsea and City?

They don’t have to pay out of their own pocket because it’s the clubs income that costs come out of. They take more money out in dividends. Where oh where could we have been if the owner had been Chelsea or City’s. It is a crying shame what has gone on, over a Billion that could have been spent on infrastructure on the team. Madrid are spending 500m on the stadium, we have wasted probably three times that.

23 Feb 2021 22:06:23
Ffp now limits what aowner can spend .
We have over the last 5 year spent a significant amount on transfer .
Up there with the most in world football.
The glazers took over in 2003 a lot has changed since then.

23 Feb 2021 23:53:01
Redman. They own the business. You say its the club that has generated the income but they own the club so it is their income generated by the business they own.
What was the value of the club when they bought it?
What is the value now,?
The debt and service of those loans make sound business sense and is good practise given the value of the asset.
Yes there are a lot more preferable ways the club could be run from many a perspective. However from their point of view its been a financial masterclass from day 1 and could be the first chapter in ' how to make billions' their objective from buying the club was to make money and they have done a might good job of that.
Looking at it from a fans point of view I don't envy any of our opposition for their owners investment.
I admire how some of them appear to be managed. I admire and would covet many of their non playing staff more than their playing staff. Both football and non football related.
Over a billion spent on players. The highest wage bill in the country. The biggest squad. Huge investment in youth players.
A lot of money spent badly. But big investments made.
As much as our executives have performed poorly on the football side of the football people at the club have performed worse than them for the past 8 years.
3 failed coaches plus ole, 4 dozen of dozen players, many 'top class internationals' between them, have not been able to build a cohesive successful league challenging side. Now that is failure on a massive scale. Despite spending that billion reinvested into the company by its owners. Straight out of their own pockets because they own the club and the profits it generates. You may not like it but that's the truth.
Would I rather our owners took less and reinvested more money into the facilities? Yes for sure. Do i think they should expect a better return for their recent billion pound investment in the playing squad? yes I do.
Do I think they could do more for the fans? Yes
Am I worried any the debt? No? Why? Because any perspective buyer will put a whole lot more debt into the club than there is now.

24 Feb 2021 06:33:34
Ken,

The debt and service of those loans does not make sound business sense and is not “good practice” and I will explain again.

I could put a full financial explanation on gearing and the importance of it to a business but I won’t bore everyone. Keeping it simple i repeat it’s what the debt was used for and that is what makes gearing important. The debt and the costs of the debt have had no benefit to the business.

Asset value of the club does not help us and only makes the owners money when they sell.

I would ban leveraged buyouts in football, therefore anyone who bought us could not do what the Glazers have done.

24 Feb 2021 09:29:44
Red Man, while you might like to ban leveraged buy outs in football that sadly isn't going to happen.

There are only a few individuals world wide with deep enough pockets to buy our club outright. Do any of them have the motivation to do so? I doubt it. Football clubs are notorious for leaking money and costing huge amounts to run.

While you talk about the dividends the Glazers take out it amounts to around 100m a season. How many years would it take a new owner to make back their original investment in buying our club? We are valued at what 3-4bn? With Dividends of 100m a year it would take 30 years to make that back. So it doesn't make financial sense to sink 3-4bn of your own money into the club unless you were either looking at family institutional ownership, or unless you had a bad profile and needed to use the club's fan base and footballs world wide appeal to improve your own image.

So any new owners would either be a dodgy individual using us a shield, or another leveraged buyout lumping more debt on the club.

I think we need to accept that the Glazers are here to stay, and that actually on the whole especially the last 8 years they have made more than enough money available for us to challenge and compete. The fact we haven't is due to the poor running of the club by the board.

22 Feb 2021 14:52:46
Afternoon everyone, wanting to gauge opinions on Martial, he's been woeful for most of the season and genuinely looks disinterested. Should we try and sell him this summer or keep him as a backup/ rotational player only. Interested to hear what everyone thinks, for me I think I would try and sell him, he's got the talent but is consistently lacking between the ears 🤷‍♂️.

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22 Feb 2021 15:21:02
From martials point of view, I would look to leave and look at the examples of Lukaku and Memphis. They are both clearly enjoying their football a lot more than they were at manchester united and their performances show that. Lukaku looks like he could be the key player in breaking juventus dominance in Italy and Memphis is linked with a move to Barcelona, both done very well.

At one point leaving manchester united meant your career was only going one way and that was down but plenty of players who have left post ferguson have shown that the grass is actually greener if you can get out of the club and find a decent club. Zaha, Memphis, Lukaku, Evans, Smalling, Di Maria, Falcao, Mkhitaryan, Evra, Herrera etc.

From the clubs point of view I can see the merits in keeping him as a backup striker/ left winger as the summer market is hardly going to be full of buying clubs and we won't get the fee we want.

But one things for sure, I don't think Martial should be a starter for us going forwards after the horrid season he's had. 4 league goals this season, 2 of which came in a 9-0 against Southampton is a proper woeful return.

22 Feb 2021 15:31:15
DSG the only person letting martial down is himself not the club. His lake of desire and work rate is alarming to me. We brought in some serious competition for him in cavani and he’s not risen to the challenge. I don’t see him ever fulfilling his huge potential unless he has a pretty drastic mindset change.

22 Feb 2021 15:44:04
Caolan the second. that's a good point youve made but in my post i'm not excusing Martials performances.

Im just saying it might be worthwile for his own career to leave the club and play elsewhere for a fresh start. he's been here 6 years and had good moments but apart from last season never established himself as the key attacker in our team.

22 Feb 2021 15:59:59
I think for himself he needs to go. I think psg could look to him to come should they lose mbappe.

22 Feb 2021 16:59:30
Terrible player, what a waste of a shirt. Ugh!

This is Man Utd we are talking about and this joker thinks he should be the number 9 / main striker? He is having a laugh and if he really is on £250k a week then he really is laughing.

There is no room for players like Martial and Pogba at Man Utd. They just take up space and money which could be used for proper players instead.

22 Feb 2021 18:31:15
I'm with you manc. Martial hurts my eyes.

22 Feb 2021 18:40:32
Imagine replacing Mbappe with Martial. It would be like when we replaced Ronaldo with Valencia, Owen and that other wingers whose name escapes me.

I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but Martial has opportunities. Last night Ole had to shout at him from the touch line to move. He actually shouted ‘Anthony move! ’ The amount he earns in wages for the effort and output is nothing short of disgusting.

22 Feb 2021 21:19:41
Martial reminds of Alan Shearer - doesn't want to play for United.

22 Feb 2021 23:24:05
He is a very talented player but he will never fulfill his potential unless he learns to work much harder

He will never be a Cavani or Shearer type of centre forward. Right now Rashford is better on the left than Martial.

Martial should go to France or Spain which will probably suit his style of play.

22 Feb 2021 13:09:25
So the stories circulating currently is that the club have gone cold on the Sancho deal. Possibly due to the numbers involved and the need to spend on other parts of the squad.

This coincides with the stories that "many" people at the club have been hugely Impressed with Amad Diallo and feel he could make an impact next season.
Couple this with Greenwood finding some form again and a general improvement in his all round game. The question is does the club need to spend 70m+ minimum to sign a 20 year old RW when we have two talented young players who are 18 and 19 pushing for minutes on the RW?

I think this summer will see a tightening of the belt around Europe with far less business than usual. Its unlikely teams will sign 4 or 5 players, probably only 2 or 3 at most.
Clubs like ours that have several players they need to offload might find it hard to find buyers, certainly buyers who'll pay anything close to asking price.

We might have to pick which areas of the squad are most important to improve and which will have to make do until 2022. Have we got young players in that position who could step in and do a job for a year? Maybe even claim a spot long term.

There are rumours of us looking at RB's, but with AWB, Dalot, Williams and Laird does it make sense to sign a squad player there or is a key first teamer a better option in another position?

The general consensus is that we need a CB, CDM, RW, ST and RB. If we can only sign 3 players for which 3 positions do you think are most important?

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22 Feb 2021 13:45:09
CB, CDM and a Striker would be my picks mate. I agree with you in that we could be ok in the right back position with our current players and Dalot on loan. Also Diallo we arw hoping will play a lot more next season. I've watched a lot of Declan Rice this season and would love him as our CDM. In the striker position then obviously Haaland would be the dream I also love Lautaro Martinez but wouldn't hold my breath on either of them to be honest. In terms of a CB there isn't anyone screaming out at me right now. Maybe you can throw a name at me and I'll give you my opinion on that particular player.

22 Feb 2021 13:57:54
I think 2-3 signings is about right for a major club each year, they never have the massive clear-outs everybody wants. Unless they have Russian billionaires.
With this in mind.
CB - The priority. With Jones likely to move on, and none of the current players exactly excelling, someone who can walk in to the position is crucial.
CDM - I suspect this is one area where Utd have options as McT, Matic and Fred have all played here. All can be very good on their day and until Matic (or one of the other) leaves I don't see this as an immediate issue, despite the constant links with Soumane/ Rice et al.
RW - I hope we don't get too carried away with Diallo just yet, even if he is outstanding he is still inexperienced and not physically suited to the Prem. Sancho is proven and able to play on both flanks which makes him very desirable but obviously the value needs to drop considerably.
ST - If Cavani wasn't at the club I would suggest this is up there with CB in terms of priority. Martial is not consistent, motivated or prolific enough to be Manchester United's main striker. Utd will I assume trigger the season extension on Cavani's contract but clearly need to be looking further ahead.
RB - Doesn't seem an immediate concern, AWB has hardly set the world alight but has had a good month and we've seen what a little competition did to Shaw. I assume Dalot will leave. Quite like the thought of Aarons or Tripper.
So to cut a lot of waffle short - Kounde (CB), Camavinga (CDM), Sancho (R/ LW) .

22 Feb 2021 14:09:12
Shappy you obviously have more confidence than me in our inept negotiators/ investment bankers if you think we’re capable of doing any decent business this summer! I fully expect yet another excruciating calamity.

22 Feb 2021 14:15:36
CB, CDM and a Striker for me. Got to break the bank for Haaland, get one of Saul or Declan Rice to sit in front of the defence, and add a good CB - Konate, Pau Torres or Kounde. That will give us a good spine across the team and will make us less fragile. This does leave a massive gap at RW, hence the Kingsley coman rumours, but we have to hope that Amad adn greenwood can make a difference on RW and james can give Rashford some cover for LW.
A starting ll of DDG, Shaw, CB, McGuire, AWB, Rice, DvDB, Bruno, Rashford, Haaland, Greenwood will get us further and may even push for the title if we are lucky with injuries.
Problem is with Pogba and mata possibly leaving, our bench again looks mediocre with Cavani the only stand out.

22 Feb 2021 14:17:43
I think we need to sign a right sided attacker for the sake of balance in our squad but if the club are confident that Diallo will step up I think we should look for a centre forward instead. Martial is miles off it, Greenwood still young and as good as Cavani has looked he isn't a long term solution.

As Damon has pointed out above, CB, DM and CF should be our priorities.

Centre Back - Not seen enough of Pau Torres who is our number one target but I'd go for Ibrahima Konate.

Defensive Midfield - Wilfried Ndidi, Declan Rice or Denis Zakaria. All would be excellent signings

Centre Forward - Ideally Haaland but we have no chance of signing him and Kane would cost a massive amount so not viable. Lautaro Martinez is a good shout, as is Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Darwin Nunez is one to watch as well.

22 Feb 2021 14:31:19
Rice seems to be the player everyone wants, but I thought it had been reported that he has no interest in Manchester United? Until 200k pw is shoved into his face anyway.

22 Feb 2021 14:45:32
Haaland is such an exciting prospect. But look at the dodgy defending for that bicycle kick and Sancho's opener. They wouldn't be given the time to think in the Prem let alone stroll around and do what they wanted like that, it was like a training session.

22 Feb 2021 14:50:45
Good shout about DCL rj. forgto about him. apparently we were in for him in the summer and he would be really good for us. But i think we need a world class striker to make up for the deficiencies in the rest of the squad and don't see DCL as that player.

22 Feb 2021 17:05:18
All interesting replies, the general consensus seems to be CB and CDM, which makes sense as our biggest weakness is our weak core.

Then there seems to be a split between ST and RW, with the obvious names of Haaland and Sancho top of peoples wish lists.

RB as most people point out isn't that desperate and is the kind of position we strengthen when we are already really strong everywhere else.

I'm really split if I'm honest. While I fully agree that Martial just isn't up to being first choice mentally and we could do with a true first choice striker. I'm left wondering that with Cavani, Rashford and Greenwood at the club it might be a position we could delay a season to see how Greenwood progresses. While strikers are notoriously difficult and expensive signings to make.

While we have two young players who need game time in Diallo and Greenwood my real concern is that in the event of an injury to Bruno where will our creativity come from? Giving young players game time is great for their development, but if you are relying on them for you creativity then you run the risk of being very inconsistent as young players tend to be.

We don't have a creative deep midfielder, while we don't have a creative wide player on the left. While only Shaw offers creativity from full back. An injury to Bruno would put a lot of pressure to perform on Diallo and Greenwood. From that perspective a creative wide player who can play RW, LW and CAM/ No.10 would be ideal. In that regard I can see the appeal of a player like Sancho as he does tick all the boxes. The issue is if you sign Sancho then he has to start 99% of the time if fit. You don't spend over 70m for a bit part player. While I also have minor concerns that the levels he is achieving in the Bundesliga won't translate as well into the EPL.

We could shuffle the front line around and have Sancho left, Rashford through the middle and either Greenwood or Diallo right.

I wonder whether its better to sign a player who has the potential to be first choice but won't necessarily demand to start every game. Maybe someone like Pedro Neto at Wolves, who can play anywhere across the front line, is EPL proven and wouldn't be an instant starter but has more than enough quality to be one.

Either way for me we need a CB a CDM and a creative player to take the burden off of Bruno and give us some variability.

22 Feb 2021 17:06:27
We've needed a RW for so long that other positions have now become more important. You couldn't write it.

The best teams have a strong spine yet ours is weak in comparison, so I'd look to sort that out as a priority.

CB - Literally anyone. We need to break up our current pairing of Vic and Bob if we have any aspirations to win the league. I'm fed up of their comical defending it really is embarrassing. Pau Torres and Ben White are our top choices. I'd take either, and ideally both.

DM - Declan Rice
Wasn't sure on him 6 months ago but he's really impressed me this season. His passing has come on a lot and he's comfortable on the ball. If he was a little more disciplined he has all the attributes to become a top DM. If the English premium is too much I'd look at Ndidi as an alternative.

ST - Calvert-Lewin
He's really impressed me this season. I'd wait until next year before making a decision to see if he can do it for two seasons running. We've seen many strikers have a great season and get a move to a big club, only for the to turn out to be a one season wonder. I think he's improved every aspect of his game under Ancelotti and he has the physical presence to match, so I think he'd be a good fit.

22 Feb 2021 18:43:50
Midfield saul
Cb milinkovic
Rw sancho

Sell ddg martial pogba pierera Jones dalot Williams.

22 Feb 2021 20:10:13
Ken, Williams? why?

22 Feb 2021 21:07:19
I would get a couple of CB's for starters.
Pau Torres and Jules Kounde, both are attainable.
Then Rice for CDM.

Getting these 3 players will allow the whole team to get up the pitch more. Also, with Rice we can afford to play another attacking midfielder alongside Bruno.

22 Feb 2021 22:01:10
I think we need to be realistic this summer and I can't see us going for a striker or RW for a number of reasons, priority lies elsewhere (and it will not be cheap to fill those positions) and i genuinely believe that OGS thinks he has somnething in Dialo/ Greenwood that will bear fruit over the coming year.
For me we need to pay what it takes to get the CB of choice as our number one concern which is likely to be in the £40-60m bracket. Follow this up with a CDM that has mobility and an eye for a pass (again you are looking at £60m+) which will allow for a more cohesive link between defence and the midfield.
If both these positions are filled with the right player I think we will be done, other than some periffery movement depending on departures.
Impact of C.V. will hit all clubs finances for a while yet.

23 Feb 2021 00:00:43
A cb, sancho and a pogba replacement if he goes for me .
If a cb is added try to move one on so we don't end up with loads of cbs who never play as that's happened before
Cavani, greenwood and Rashford to cover the striker slot and amad to cover either wing if he's ready for it next season.

23 Feb 2021 09:00:32
I'd love to see someone who plays off the right as a speciality. I don't even think they would need to world class to make a massive improvement to our side.
When we recover possession we try to play into our playmaker or winger quickly (usually Bruno), but generally there is not an option on the right. Someone who played there and didn't dream of being on the left or central (Rashford/ Martial/ Greenwood/ James/ Diallo/ Chong) could mean the development of a proper relationship with AWB. Wan-Bissaka isn't the best going forward but he plays with a different player in front of him nearly every game. Shaw/ Rashford/ Bruno have a really good dynamic on the left, and that consistency will be a big contributing factor to Shaws form this year.
I just think it would give so much more balance to our side. Jarrod Bowen starts nearly every game for West Ham and didn't cost loads from the Champo, but isn't a player that drifts around the front line. He plays right wing only - I'd love to see someone make the spot their own.

After that I would focus on a centre forward to fill Cavani's role in the squad. We may get another year out of him but its made such a difference to us having a CF who can be a focal point and isn't determined to drift. A striker who can score headers gives us another essential option when attacking; especially when we are failing to break a team down who play a low block.

I like the idea of Rice to replace Fred. I love Fred's attitude and work rate, but he is truly dreadful on the ball (although a nice assist against Sociedad - credit where its due) . He's probably a better back-up CB than Jones too. Liverpool have shown how crucial depth is in that position.

23 Feb 2021 12:27:23
Get rid of Pogba and Martial and a few other fringe players like Jones and Lingard to bring in some cash.
Then i would be going all out to get Haaland.
A decent central midfielder and a central defender.
As well as conceding to many goals we are missing far to many chances to put games to bed.

{Ed077's Note - Haaland's agent is Mino. How difficult will our relation with him is well known.

23 Feb 2021 12:37:36
Hi Ed. to be honest i couldn't care less about the agent as long as he they sign him and he scores 25 plus goals a season.
Haaland would be perfect for us and he already knows Ole and has a relationship with him.

{Ed077's Note - But we can ignore the circus and distractions caused around Pogba through Mino. I know the club hasn't gone about in best way to handle the situation around him but the marriage between Man Utd/Ole and Mino looks likely to end up in tears only.

23 Feb 2021 13:23:52
I would make a Chelsea and take 4-5 players at once. If we want Sancho that means we are happy to pay up to 150 millions and huge wages. So o wouldn't touch him and i would go with a top cb, two midfielders because Pogba will leave Matic is old and Donny isn't trusted and a winger like Pedro Neto. 60 millions for each transfer is Sanchos money plus some sales and these 4 players will make a hell lot of difference.

{Ed077's Note - And will we do a Chelsea and struggle to perform consistently leading to a topsy turvy season?

Also in the above reply I meant we cant ignore the circus around Pogba and Mino.

23 Feb 2021 13:31:56
Very true Ed but i think it's a chance worth taking. In my opinion signing Haaland and getting a few more through the door would give us a genuine tile at the premier league next season. Only a handful of clubs have the funds to buy him, us, City and Chelsea. Madrid and Barcelona are crippled with debt and i don't think Juve have 100 million plus going spare. The only other side would be PSG but would Haaland want to play in a tin pot league?

{Ed077's Note - I am not against signing Haaland, I am merely pointing out the obvious. I also don't think Haaland will actually come to United anytime soon. So I think we might be better off looking at other younger strikers/attackers instead of chasing a pipedream. Maybe the likes of Calvert-Lewin, Ollie Watkins, Patson Daka, etc..

23 Feb 2021 13:46:41
Ofcourse not 077. Not evert team who buys 4-5 players is struggling.
I didn't refer to Raiola at all. We can take 4-5 players which are not clients of Mino Raiola. I know we have a problem with him.

{Ed077's Note - Herrera I clearly mentioned I meant in the reply above your post that we can't ignore the soured relationship we have with Mino when talking about Haaland.

You cited Chelsea as an example to say you want us to sign 4-5 relatively big players ala Chelsea and I merely pointed out the fact they are struggling to perform to their expectations prior to the beginning of this season. Don't overlook the facts that don't suit your points and then try and argue when someone is merely pointing them out 😀

23 Feb 2021 14:36:03
I simply don't see the point. I said i want to do a Chelsea and sighn 4-5 players and you said that they don't perform like it is a case of every team making a lot of sighning doesn't pay off. I know they are struggling but because they are struggling doesn't mean if we make 5 sighnings they will also struggle.
Unless there is something i don't understand (because of my English) i don't see where is the problem.

{Ed077's Note - And I said Chelsea "did a Chelsea" and now are struggling to find consistency in form and team selection. I didn't say every team who buys 4_5 players struggle but merely pointed out the "fault" in your example of Chelsea.

23 Feb 2021 15:07:29
In my example i don't see a "fault". I did say I want to make a lot of transfers in once like them.
Not to struggle like them. That is what you said, not me.

{Ed077's Note - You said make lots of signings like Chelsea. I pointed out that has led to them struggling. You could have picked many teams who had relative success bringing in huge number of players in a single window but you chose a team that underperformed so much that they changed the manager mid season. Chelsea aren't a great 3xampl3 to follow judging by their subsequent performance after the huge influx of signings.

23 Feb 2021 22:15:01
Chelsea are a poor example.

 


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