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21 Jun 2019 17:45:47
I feel it will take moving out a few players to instigate the new arrivals, l still say we are near our limit on the FFP wages rule so unless we reduce them we are stuck.

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21 Jun 2019 22:22:49
The books change over from July the first for FFP so that maybe another reason signings are not currently happening.

However, moving players on that are surplus to requirement and renegotiating certain contracts must be a priority for the club surely?

21 Jun 2019 13:44:32
I don't think that Lingard should be 'warned' over his behaviour. If he were in many other professions, such as teaching, he would most certainly lose his job. I feel that this is an opportunity for Solsjaer to assert himself at the beginning of his United career and to instil discipline in an indisciplined squad.

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21 Jun 2019 14:00:44
Yes but he is not a teacher and the standards are rightfully different in terms of behaviour.

People are overreacting so much and the entitlement of some fans is getting embarrassing.

21 Jun 2019 14:03:53
He does nothing on the field at least let him enjoy off the field.
His days are numbered at united, soon OLE will realize that even he is a virus and will be kicked out.

21 Jun 2019 14:38:26
Obviously there’s a bit of overreacting, and old men yelling at clouds.

But Lingard is a fully grown adult who still behaves like a teenager. This has been enabled by people at, and associated, with the club. How many times have we seen Lingard be described as a young player, or put in the same bracket as the likes of Rashford and Martial?

He is embarrassingly immature off the pitch, and woefully inconsistent on it. If he wasn’t an academy player, there’s no way he’d still be at the club, or playing for any top side. Absolute waste of a squad number.

21 Jun 2019 15:06:11
The lad is obviously a bit immature, that's come across time and again probably not the cleverest lad about .
But I'm not sure it's a hanging offence,

21 Jun 2019 15:48:22
Being a bit old school i tend to agree with you jred but in today's society his behaviour is not showing him and by association the lub in a good night. He needs to be warned about future conduct. Its plain dumb. I expect better. The moral compass had moved on from the days where you and i would deem that as horse play.
I often find myself saying pc has gone too far however i have to adapt when you have millions of followers you need to adapt quicker and show some decorum.

21 Jun 2019 15:52:57
It is stupid attitudes like Lingard's and anyone supporting him on this site that makes some of these overpaid and childish footballers so hateful in my opinion. Lingard is no longer a kid, he's 26. And as Danny posted above, he's achieved nothing and has a bad influence on the younger players, Rashford included.
To try a defend his actions in any way, is ridiculous. He's a United player, 26 years old and is giving the club a bad image. I hope OGS has the balls to drop or sell him. He's a waste of space anyway, and unfortunately, he thinks he's up there with Messi and Ronaldo.
Let another club have him and put up with his stupid antics.

21 Jun 2019 16:10:40
So what is that he has done that's so bad .
I could tell you horror stories of what some players get up and have done .

21 Jun 2019 16:18:17
Agree with Jred, he seems incredibly thick. Not sure he would do it if he was wise enough to understand the fall outs of it. Calling him a virus though, I am not quite sure. A little OTT. There is some absolute nasty stuff you could associate with some ex pros, yet this one is irritating at best.

21 Jun 2019 16:22:33
All players do some type of bad behaviour, their in the best of hotels, fed every meal, probably don't even know how to pay a bill.
They get bored and start acting the magot, we all did it at some stage, but they are that brain dead that they make videos of it,
Now here we are talking about those boys and the thread below about 2 of the greatest midfielders that ever played in the league and not a word about it,
Social media has the world ruined.

21 Jun 2019 16:25:02
Is he really hateful? Just seems very immature to me .
Does he really think he is up there with Ronaldo and messi .

Gives a 100% everytime he puts a shirt on, but I suppose he did put a childish, cringeworthy video on social media, of his hotel room .

He wasnt knocking women about, involved with kids, drugs gambling any crime . Cheating on his wife, with any ones else's husband or wife .
Organising dubious partys, associating with dubious " business assosiates" .
No he put a video on social media of his hotel room, making him look what he is, a bit immature and not the brightest spark. The club will deal with, they have dealt with far worse .

21 Jun 2019 16:26:06
People seem to be missing the point with the what has he done. He hasn’t committed a criminal offence but what about discipline and standards. These were very high on the agenda under SAF.

What is the point of making players wear a club blazer if you are going to allow players to behave as they want and ignore what the club stands for? There is a level of respect that should be upheld for whoever is manager and club and it is like some players feel they can ignore this. It isn’t acceptable on that basis. People should respect the club and manager, the fact it looks like they don’t should ring loud alarm bells.

21 Jun 2019 16:44:08
SAF said he would be a late bloomer but he’s going to be in his 40’s before he matures at this rate.

21 Jun 2019 16:51:03
I'm sure he will get his knuckles wrapped .

21 Jun 2019 16:53:48
To be honest we don't know if there has been or will be any disciplinary action for his video. Even if there is we would hardly find out and shouldn't do in any case. Any hr professional or club would keep anything like that confidential.

21 Jun 2019 17:19:21
Schmid, it’s a bit harsh to say he has achieved nothing. He’s played in a World Cup semi final and scored some important goals for us. He’s clearly immature but that doesn’t mean he’s useless.

21 Jun 2019 18:15:26
I presume by the complete over reaction to this non story that most posters have the morals of angles and have never done anything silly or immature in their youth.

We talk about discipline but didn't SAF have to rescue Roy Keane from Police Custody after allegedly assaulting a female following a drunken night out and didn't our very own beloved Mr Cantona assault a spectator live on TV in front of millions. Rio conveniently forgot about a drugs test and i'm sure there are many other stories of impropriety that I could share about Utd players misbehaving in the Fergi era.

I suppose what we're saying is if your good on the pitch you can be forgiven for almost anything but if your not you get hung, drawn and quartered for some immature joviality. Perhaps that what's wrong with football and society in general.

Lingard is immature, his video illustrates the lad culture synonymous with footballers and English youth culture in general. Yes the boy needs educating and reminding of his responsibilities and this culture needs tackling and eradicating if possible but would we all be up in arms if the Lingard had just banged in 30 goals last season and scored the winner in a Champions League final. No doubt the moral custodians will jump all over me and insist it wouldn't make a difference but if most people are honest whilst they might still find his video distasteful I highly doubt they would be so vociferous or asking for him to be sent to Alcatraz; He'd be too important for that and perhaps that's as scary as the video.

21 Jun 2019 18:21:25
Lingard is a child and lacks the minerals to be a part of Manchester United. Really cannot stand the lad, or Pogba for that matter. Rashford tests my patience too.

21 Jun 2019 19:12:31
Jred, surely a man of 26, A MAN, not A BOY, playing (i use that word loosely, as he can't play) for a huge club, knows the implications of his behaviour. He knows he's in the public eye. This is not the first time, we had him with that stupid video with Rashford, then he's launching some fashion label just before our biggest game of the season, and now he's on a video doing some quite disgusting imitations. I think it's enough.

21 Jun 2019 20:33:56
Hold on all he's done is make a video of a posh hotel room?

"Fire up the electric chair"

What does he do in this video that's got everyone riled?

21 Jun 2019 21:14:23
Nothing mort, he’s not really done anything that doesn’t normally go on on a lads holiday. It’s cringey and really embarrassing but that’s it. No harm done.
The saddest part of all this is we live in a time where the British media want to hang our players for having a tattoo or smoke a cigarette and these idiots haven’t got the know how or sense to keep their life’s low key and this fool Lingard has even filmed and posted it himself. Just shows how thick and oigheaded he is.

21 Jun 2019 22:34:23
Meh there's worse things he could be doing. Its daft but hardly a hanging offence.

22 Jun 2019 03:35:58
He's pogbas bitch this is wots wrong with r dressing room this behaviour is acceptable! It could be the reason rashford has stalled! It seems clothing lines n Instagram has took priority over success results and pride.

21 Jun 2019 13:27:22
Best of Enemies: Keane and Vieira documentary - Part 1

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21 Jun 2019 14:00:26
A born winner, never again to see the likes of it.
I'm just glad I saw that era in football.

21 Jun 2019 20:37:27
The league misses a rivalry like that.

22 Jun 2019 09:26:08
Hopefully this review isn’t on the last 5 minutes of the England game last night 🤦🏼‍♂️.

Jurgen Klopp

21 Jun 2019 11:24:50
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new manager profile about, Jurgen Klopp

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21 Jun 2019 06:24:52
Hello Ed001,
could you please do a player profile on Dean Henderson, when you have the time?

{Ed001's Note - ok mate I have added him to the list.}

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21 Jun 2019 10:30:30
Thank you.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

21 Jun 2019 11:06:21
Great name choice.

21 Jun 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st June 2019

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21 Jun 2019 11:39:02
Thanks Ed
Afcon starts today, hope for a good tournament.
I really don't watch the COPA America, could be time difference or the fact that they need to invite countries from other continents to join.

{Ed001's Note - I don't tend to watch internationals at all. It is not proper football, too slow.}

21 Jun 2019 07:31:54
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
Isn't it about time we stopped letting fees for players bother us for the following reasons:
1) it's not coming out of our own pockets
2) do any of us really know £1 for £1 what it all equates to?
3) we are all in agreement that the money being passed around for players is ridiculous so why keep saying it
4) all that really should matter to us is getting players in that improve the current squad

The biggest frustration for me is EW over seeing the success of these transfers as he clearly isn't experienced enough to deal with it. He needs to go over have responsibilities linked to transfers taken away from him. I don't give a monkeys how much the player costs, if we've got the money then pay it, or move on!

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21 Jun 2019 07:44:22
KG, we have little knowledge of football finances, but I’ve never understood people who say “just pay what it takes”.

Why should we pay more than another club for a player?
Look at the mess it has got us in to with wages.
There are also budgets to consider.
Getting the best deal for your business is simple logic.

I understand we need players but spending £70m on a right back that’s had one good season is not sustainable. You only have to look at our very own club to realise that.

21 Jun 2019 07:50:49
He’s been in the top job for 7 years now so you’d have thought he might have picked up some experience by now.

21 Jun 2019 09:48:42
@Wazza, we can look at different targets, but any RB at the level we need is going to be expensive, especially as it's Utd looking to buy. If we just refuse to pay over the odds, we won't get a good enough player. It doesn't matter how good the value for money is, if they aren't good enough to improve us, it's wasted money.

Conversely, it doesn't matter how much they should be objectively valued at, if all the good players are overpriced, then that's simply the way supply and demand works, and we just have to pay what's asked and move on.

There are only so many RB's of sufficient quality, and if we refuse to pay the cost for AWB, the next club we approach is just going to ramp up the asking price for their player. Sooner or later we end up paying 50m for a player who isn't even as good as Valencia. Better to just pay the 65-70m and get a player who actually improves us.

21 Jun 2019 10:56:09
We pay a premium almost every time as it is.

It matters because if we spend our budget on 2 players when we need 4, then we are weaker over all.

It's a business at the end of the day. If you stop negotiating the situation gets worse and worse.

I agree if you are going to buy a player then buy a sure thing at our level - but is AWB a sure thing? Most of us hadn't heard of him this time last year, he has been playing at Palace which is different to playing at Utd, ask Zaha. The scouts should do their job and the academy should do their's. The manager should also blood young players when the need arises, this gives us the ability to walk away from deals if they don't work and don't act like a desperate school girl at a night club!

I have limited faith in our ability to sign the right players at the moment, we have a habit of taking star players for lesser clubs and ruining them.

21 Jun 2019 10:56:33

We need 5 players. And let's pretend that the powers that be also know that we need 5 players as well.

So do we "pay whatever it takes" to bring in 3 players. And then not sign the other two?

We have to recruit, there's no doubt about it. There are many players out there who will improve our dated squad, whether that be first, second or third choice targets.

If a deal can't be agreed because other clubs are asking for too much money, we should move onto others.

If you were looking to buy a house with a £500K budget, would you say "na, I want that one for £800K, I'll just pay whatever it takes"?

No you wouldn't, because you need to buy a house but you have a budget to stick to. If you go over that budget you get yourself into financial difficulty.

Which is pretty much where the club is at right now, with a high wage bill as a result of over-paying in the past.

21 Jun 2019 12:35:57
No Wazza, but at the same time, if I was trying to buy a home for my family of 5, I wouldn't buy a studio apartment just because it was reasonably priced, and all the 3 bedroom houses where going for inflated prices. I need a 3 bedroom house, even if it's overpriced, and a 1 bedroom flat isn't going to work no matter how reasonably priced it is.

I'm not saying we pay whatever they ask for this one specific player, just that every player Utd go for will be over-valued, just because it's Utd, and sooner or later we have to pay up, or miss out on the players who would actually improve us, and money spent on players who don't improve us is a waste.

20 Jun 2019 23:00:04
Talk of social media and lack of maturity and leaders reminds me of a story John OShea told when Keano was captain, the rule was no phones in the dressing room and one rang in a players pocket, OShea said the whole squad were rubbishting themselves knowing he would freak out. Imagine what he would have done to Lingard and Pogba with their antics. Standards has fallen so much, no respect, no dedication. Just immature Muppets and they're in their mid to late twenties now hardly kids.

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20 Jun 2019 23:46:53
There is also a case of family values and upbringing which some of the kids of todays age clearly lack.

21 Jun 2019 05:06:22
Would this be the same Keane who got kicked out of multiple clubs for being a nuisance, picking fights, spitting in other people's drinks etc and once needed fergie to bail him out of jail for assaulting women in a bar, so much for family values and maturity.

21 Jun 2019 05:32:09
Csm you are right that keane was not a role model from any angle but what the OP is trying to say that he was focused and wanted his team to have no distractions before and during matches. I don't think this is too much to ask of your employees, who you are paying thousands of pounds per week.
I know it's the personal life of these players and no one can tell them about the use of social media or other stuff but the club have every right to ban cell phones from dressing rooms before matches.

21 Jun 2019 06:19:51
Sailor has there been any report suggesting any players using phones pre match or during half time?

All this outrage is down to lingard's stupid video which while cringeworthy happened in a hotel room not during any game or in a dressing room.

21 Jun 2019 07:37:53
Wish Keane was in our dressing room now to kick some ass.

21 Jun 2019 10:01:06
If Keane was in our dressing room now he would be taken to court for work place haressament/ bullying. Times have changed and how we can deal with things has as well.

No point romanticising about how things were, or the way the world used to be. We need to find solutions that work in the modern era.

20 Jun 2019 16:41:03
do not now if it is true but what is your thoughts on lingards snapchat video on holiday. i have to say if he was my son i would ring his neck. no wonder youngsters of today have no respect. and a few ex players and managers are calling for him to be sacked.

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20 Jun 2019 17:16:45
He’s not a youngster. He’ll be 27 before the year is over. He’s an immature man-child. There’s a reason why he’s best friends with Rashford.

20 Jun 2019 17:20:30
Couldnt care less, what he does in his holidays in his own business.

If you don't want go watch his social media antics, don't follow him.

What has he done that can be considered anywhere near a sackable offence?

20 Jun 2019 17:28:51
I would do what Sir Alex, Clough and Shankly would do. Boot him out the club.

20 Jun 2019 17:32:25
Headless checken. On and off the field. nothing more to say.

20 Jun 2019 17:42:46
I seem to remember Ferdinand, Lampard and Kieron Dyer filming themselves shagging someone back in the day. Lingard filmed his mate pretending to shag a pillow. You can’t sack him for that.
He’s an immature twit but that’s about it. If anything he, and others on social media are making it uncool to be a professional footballer nowadays.

20 Jun 2019 18:06:48
I have a huge problem with Lingards personality in that squad. He should be becoming a senior member of the squad turning 27 this year and he is nothing short of embarrassing. I don't know if it's a coincidence that Rashfords lost his humbleness when senior figures left the squad and JLingz was the one the younger players look up to.

He's a Manchester United academy graduate, in the first team, in a turbulent time in our history. He's not even a decent player to be putting up with this nonsense.

20 Jun 2019 18:09:05
What a moron.

20 Jun 2019 18:12:04
Only thing that’s annoyed me is the people he is with. If Jesse wants to act like a douche on a lads holiday su be it we’ve all been there.

But he’s meant to be a role model to younger players so I’d rather it be with non footballing mates.

20 Jun 2019 18:10:54
Haven’t seen the full version, don’t want or need to but did see a bit

People are talking about it so he will get more followers, his agent can ask more fees for advertisers or more for his clothing range. Some will be happy the club have another high click media personality, maybe he will get a pay rise, oh wait. After the season we have had you would have thought he would keep his head down but no.

Again I won’t be popular but it shows he thinks he can do this, I significantly doubt he would have dared under SAF. However, we don’t have a leader as manager, the players may like the manager but the latest media exploits indicates they don’t fear or respect Ole. By all accounts the players call him Ole in training, I bet they didn’t dare call SAF by his first name. It may pass you by but leadership is not necessarily being best friends with everyone. Do you think he would have done what is just nonsense with Pep, Klopp or Poch, really?

20 Jun 2019 18:26:10
United seem to show a lack of discipline in this regard. Mourinho was practically bad mouthing and branding ed woodward or whoever is responsible for transfers as incompetent but seems like nothing was ever done. if Lingard is a negative influence on the squad then i do think he needs to be disciplined, banned from the first team for the first half of the season and made to work his way back in the team. Ryan Giggs was guilty of doing far worse thing then Lingard but football ability wise he was head and shoulders above Lingard. United are slow at transfers and i would not want to waste time trying to sell Lingard this summer.

20 Jun 2019 18:39:28
I can tell you for sure that it is a stackable offence.
Im not saying he will or should be sacked.
But any employee can be fired if their behaviour damages the employers reputation / brand / values or ethics among other things whether it happens during working hours or not.
Its dumb behaviour and not befitting of a professional sportsman. Its crude foolish childish and irresponsible and totally classless imo.
Ive always maintained that jessie is a decent squad player. Second choice for a couple of positions. Does well in big games sometimes. He always gives 100% which is more than many can say.
However he is now walking a thin line and needs to walk the walk on the pitch more than he talks the talk on Instagram.
Last chance salon for me he needs to be told that in no uncertain terms.

20 Jun 2019 18:58:08
dsg i do not follow anybody it is in the rags and he is supposed to be a role moddle for youngsters not a nob head.

20 Jun 2019 19:23:15
Ken that is very true.
That's written in bold in my employee handbook.

20 Jun 2019 23:05:17
Really is this where we are?

If people genuinely think things were that much different 10, 20 or 30 years ago then you're deluded.

The only difference was there was no way of filming this behaviour or any sort of audience for it.

He is young rich and famous. A certain former priminister when at University commited a sex act on a dead pig. He was only rich and young at the time.

Rio and the boys filmed themselves have sex with a woman.

And God only knows what George Best used to get up to. And I can't remember Charlton or other senior players smacking that behaviour out of Best either, or Busby for that matter.

Yes, Lingard is a bit of an idiot. And yes, I would rather not see it. But this is the world we live in, and he is in the majority for his age, wealth and fame level. You only need to turn on the TV and watch the most popular show at the minute (Love Island 🤮) to see what the world is like. Is Lingards behaviour out of whack with that? Sadly not.

20 Jun 2019 23:24:42
To be honest what he does off the pitch so long as it’s not a sackable offence doesn’t get in the way of my view of him on the pitch where he along with Jones young Smalling just aren’t good enough at all and I could chuck in mata Bailly lukaku Sanchez.

20 Jun 2019 23:44:27
I just watched the video. Frankly it's disgusting. The way they have left the room in such a mess is bad enough without the other things being shown. Never mind that they they are famous footballers. What about being decent human beings and respecting others peoples property. They have no consideration for the staff of the hotel who have to clear up their mess. They have no consideration for the image that they will send out as being representative of normal English people. They obviously have no regard for the reputation of the team they play for. That they are relatively young, highly paid and famous does not mean that they can act like animals. Shameful shameful shameful. They get paid obscene amounts of money and with that goes a duty to act responsibly in public if not in private. What sort of example does it show to young impressionable fans. only that having money and fame means you can do what you like. They should both be made to do hours and hours of community work with deprived kids and families to remind them to be humble and grateful for what they have.

21 Jun 2019 00:10:29
Spot on Ken.

20 Jun 2019 23:35:58
Funny thing is it doesn't happen at any other club

Yeah do what you like on holiday but your in a profession where your held In high regards.

Act professionally your representing the club all year.

20 Jun 2019 23:38:31
Hi Angel, we are seeing so many things across all sorts of cases across ap sectors of business from entrainment politics business and sport where people are being fitted for 'behaviour unbecoming' sure the sexual harassment and racial get the headlines or bullying but its happening for reasons a lot less office than jessies video.

Honestly a final written warning is in order and that's if he is lucky. Its massively disrespectful and not acceptable in today's society. Sponsors won't want to be associated with that sort of video nor should fellow employees of the club.

Football is so far behind in what they deem to be acceptable behaviour. Turning blind eyes to what goes on around them every single day. Its sad really.

21 Jun 2019 00:23:19
shappy 20 years ago when i got into a lot of trouble you got a real bollocking of the police and a good hiding of your dad it is totaly different now kids of today have no respect because there are no reprecusions and back then the idiots could not put it on socal media so no it is not the same.

21 Jun 2019 06:57:19
Dazw, unfortunately that is how society is going. There is less structure, less responsibility, and less accountability.

Part of that is due to greater understanding. Knowing the psychological reasons behind someone's actions are often used as a way of excusing their behaviour. However, understanding why someone acts a certain way does not excuse that behaviour.

But everything filters down from the top. When MP's are found to have broken laws but they suffer no consequences, when wealthy people are able to buy their way out of trouble it filters down.

It's always been that way of course it's just now everyone knows about it.

{Ed025's Note - your spot on shappy..

21 Jun 2019 07:20:24
Ah yes, that makes it all okay then shappy. Love island, that's where we are.

Look, he's behaving like an idiot and should be at least reminded of how he should behave.

As ken said above, employees have standards to uphold when representing their workplace. I wouldn't get away with that carry on at my place, he's at the biggest club in the world.

But it's okay because it's not out of whack with what's on TV really? Does that justify the players of yester years players because the times were very different too, what was acceptable then etc. It doesn't, lingard needs to grow up and carry himself better, that's it.

21 Jun 2019 07:36:41
Yep he should of made the bed . It's a disgrace he hasn't tidied his room .
Not sure about getting sacked but his mam should definitely ground him.
Why can't players just have drink, drug and gambling problems and not resort to stuff like not hanging there clothes up .

21 Jun 2019 10:17:08
Angel, I'm not saying it makes it okay. Just that this is the world we have created.

Does life imitate art or does art imitate life. Does society get "programmed" by TV programs, or are TV programs made to imitate society. In which case what does that say about TV programs like Love Island?

Yes, he has acted like an idiot, and yes he needs to learn how he should behave, and yes he has brought about shame on the club.
But then so did Rio when he missed a drugs test, so did Keane and Rooney when they held the club to ransom, or Giggs and Rooney when they had affairs, or Beckham dressing like a manikin, or Best or Robson getting drunk and into trouble.

None of them got sacked for arguably bigger faux pas. Also those saying he should be sacked, well that entirely depends on what is written in his contract of employment and how the disciplinary procedure works with the club. Unless we know that we can't say whether he has breached his contract and should therefore be subject to sanctions.

21 Jun 2019 10:22:39
I must have watched a different video, this reaction is hilarious to me. Maybe some of you need to go on a few stag do's or lads holidays, a lot worse than that goes on.

I assumed when I heard the uproar that there was drugs on the side of the bed or something crazy, it is just lads fooling around in a messy room, who's to say they didn't clean up before they left anyway?

Why are people mentioning police? What has he done that is illegal?

21 Jun 2019 12:01:19
Lingard is a silly, but no longer young man. The video content itself is nothing wild, but it illustrates well that he has poor judgement. It also hints that United may be developing a "bling bling" problem in which players are able to coast through a season without decent performances, pick up enormous wages and spend too much time focussed on social media. This sends exactly the wrong message to younger players and needs to be stamped out.

21 Jun 2019 12:30:40
Did all those players get reprimanded for their actions Shappy? I'm sure they did. Another thing they also made sure of was putting it on the pitch, something our current crop have not been doing.

He just needs to cop on, grow up and behave like an adult and a better role model to kids out there who are looking up to him.

He represents one of the biggest sports franchises in the world, he should act like it too.

That's all I'm saying.

21 Jun 2019 12:45:58
Angel, I would say Lingard is one of the few who always gives 100% on the pitch. That doesn't always equate to game changing performances. But he isn't as talented as some of those that came before him and he is certainly playing in a lesser team.

Either way he hasn't done anything illegal, or anything as bad as some other previous players who not all got reprimanded for their actions.

I think this situation, although regrettable isn't as serious as some previous situations involving our players. Yet it is receiving much more hype and condemnation from supporters who are unhappy and easily annoyed with our club and our players.

21 Jun 2019 13:20:27
Lingard is a knob. Needs to get himself publicity via social media because he isn't good enough to get it from football.
I agree society in general is going down the pan with regards to behaviour and lack of respect, but Lingard is a professional sportsman, playing for one of the most famous and high profile clubs in the world. He should be aware of his responsibilities and accountable for his actions.

Alas, I think that the club is in such a mess that discipline is too far down the list of priorities to even matter now.
The players down just need to learn how to behave, they should be made to. They are a bunch of over paid, under performing wimps.
There was a lot of negativity around Mata signing a new deal this week, but I tell you what if the likes of Lingard and Pogba had one tenth of the class of Mata both as people and professional, we would be in a much better place ON the pitch too.

21 Jun 2019 15:51:24
Top post Betty. You don't get many people like Mata now a days.

21 Jun 2019 17:19:30
Bolger, I'm sure this sort of thing goes on at other clubs as well. Utd don't have a monopoly on silly employees.

20 Jun 2019 13:57:51
Is there any interest in Douglas Costa from United? I think he will be available this summer and I don't think Juventus will want that much for him. Could see him fit at the right wing. And one more name - Ziyech, any interest in him? Top quality player.

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}

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20 Jun 2019 14:19:56
I hope not.

20 Jun 2019 15:43:03
Do we really need another player with a huge ego who has failed to really make it at top club's in the past. He struggled to push an aging Robben and Ribery out of the Bayern line up, now he struggles to hold down a place at Juventus.

Do we really need a Di Maria 2.0?

20 Jun 2019 16:31:52
Ed002, I did and I didn't find anything for Ziyech. As for Costa, he is mentioned on one post, where the price was too high.
Shappy, how do you know that his ego is big? And he did very well for Bayern, especially the first season. And how do you think someone can push Robben or Ribery from the line up, when they were in top for then? Don't compare him to Di Maria, we all knew that ar Di Maria preferred.

{Ed002's Note - So that sneers the question about HZ. I have explained on multiple times about DC.}

20 Jun 2019 18:23:16
Ziko, ultimately I don't, but there are rumours saying he has an attitude. He went to Juventus when Robben and Ribery were 33 and 34 having not been able to push them out of the line up.

Think about this logically, Bayern Munich, a top club, were happy to sell him.

Now Juventus, also a top club, are also happy and even activity looking to sell him.

How many top club's need to move him on before people start to question why?

If our ambition is to be in the UCL and challenge for titles like Juventus and Bayern Munich then we shouldn't be signing the players these clubs don't see as being good enough for them. That's how you become a small club, by signing the top club's cast offs.

20 Jun 2019 18:31:28
Thanks! I feel sad about HZ though. I'm sure he will impress in the best leagues.

20 Jun 2019 19:00:09
Shappy, Costa went to Bayern when Rib and Rob were 32 and 31, and I repeat myself, they were at top forms. And you give as an example that Bayern moved him on and Juve want to do the same. So, Robben was at Chelsea, then Real, now Bayern. There can be a lot of reasons for a player to move or to be moved. And there are many, many players that proved themselves at their next clubs. I rate Costa, you don't :) Just can't see better wingers at United at this moment.

20 Jun 2019 19:40:03
Ziko, I said they were 33 and 34 when he LEFT Bayern and went to Juventus. At a time when both Robben and Ribery were struggling for form.

He might be better than what we have, but he brings issues with him and he isn't at the level we need if we want to get back to the very top.

20 Jun 2019 20:41:55
My bad for the ages. We can't sign the likes of Hazard this season, I think. We have to start from somewhere. Tell me if you have some wingers in your mind.

20 Jun 2019 23:08:48
Personally I would go with young up and coming wingers. Traditionally we have faired far better with developing talent than buying the top players.

Sancho would be my top pick. Although we could go for players such as Klivert, Lozano, Hudson-Odoi, Nicolas Pepe or Thuram.

21 Jun 2019 07:27:15
Sancho is my pick as well, but didn't mention him, because I think he'll stay with Dortmund. Pepe and Lozano are options, I agree.


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