Manchester United Banter 3

25 Oct 2026 22:21:36
Whoever comes in is doomed with Wilcox still there. He's proved he isn't good enough and doesn't know what he's doing.
Replace him.
Then all out for Emery, even if it means a caretaker for the rest of the season.
Carrick will be gone tomorrow, shame but sadly not good enough.
And every player should be embarrassed and ashamed.

26 Oct 2026 00:11:53
They will choose Howe and we will be in trouble again within 12 months even if he does avoid relegation.

26 Oct 2026 10:21:21
Whoever comes in is doomed with Big Sir Jim there, another billionaire egomaniac who thinks he's an expert on everything. He's never going to let the people below him do their jobs without interfering. That's when he takes a break from running the country.

25 Oct 2026 20:02:12
It's a strange feeling at the moment as I flip from blaming one group to the other but today I don't feel like this is the players fault.

Carrick is a legend but pre-season Tielemans was interviewed saying about the lack of fitness training so there is no surprise that he and others looks way off it.

Surely the fundamentals of 'earn the right to play' starts with fitness. You can have the worlds best 11 on paper (which obviously we don't have) but if they are unfit - then you are going to get beat by teams that are - it's not rocket science, it's not even grade 1 literacy, it's basic common sense.

Carrick saying there's more than one way to beat an opponent is fine but it's clear we are letting the opposition do what they want. Being so worried about covering for our defensive frailty's and not putting pressure on the opponent is making us worse not better.

We are in a relegation scrap, Manchester United - the biggest team in England, is in a relegation scrap. That genuinely hurts to say. Even Carrick will admit that enough is enough.

The worse thing is - replace Carrick, Wilcox will still be above, replace Wilcox you have Jim Ratcliffe - the chem dealer, remove him and you still have the Glazer leaches who never put a penny into this club and took everything out. The rot is so deep that even with the miracle that each and every one of those dream killing scum bags taken out of the club it's hard to see the damage being fixed.

My favourite song is Glory Glory Man United the f*** do we sing now.

25 Oct 2026 21:34:03
I had a terrible thought after today's game.

What if they bring OGS back until the end of the season?

25 Oct 2026 22:24:11
I don't see how Carrick can be blamed. He got the feel good feeling back and got you CL football. Then it's got a little bit rough and the players have downed tools again as they know the manger cops it. In my opinion they are the common thread through all this manager merry go round.

The cycle will repeat until the dressing room is sorted.

Carrick isn't without fault, but the powers that be didn't learn the last time a former player did well and got the job. He should have been thanked and you should have moved on. Most football fans saw it, yet the hierarchy took the easy choice. Now your back to square one. Those guys are paid big bucks to make tough decisions and should have been able to see where this would go.

However, I don't think you'll be in a scrap. A new manager will come in where the players will respond. Then Itll get tough and he will be sacked in a year or two.

Just one last point on the players, yes they are given tactics but they still are the ones on the pitch. They can still deliver and put 100% in, right now are any of them doing that for the fans? It's the bare minimum and they should be able to motivate themselves and have some pride in what they are showing.

26 Oct 2026 14:25:28
WYred, I'm assuming you haven't seen the football, the lack of effort, the keep compact and don't press tactics that have come from the coaching staff as per the player's words and the coach.

Is it on the players as well? Sure, but something seems extremely off when players join the club and say we're not running.

25 Oct 2026 18:08:17
Can't see any decent manager wanting to join with these clowns in charge! They have no interest whatsoever in anything apart from lining their pockets, directors and downwards, DOF and other so called professionals.

And as for the players! Not one seems to actually care at all!

Going to be a very long season I think!

25 Oct 2026 21:50:52
Of the two bookies faves, I'd get a bit giddy if they sacked Wilcox and backed a Vivell/Nagelsman combo.

If it's Howe, which feels more likely, he'd need to win the fans round very quickly.

25 Oct 2026 17:48:19
Let's be clear here, these are the same players and Manager that won all round them last season. I don't get this mid week games, we have only started this recently. It's down to attitude and application from players and Management. I get we didn't buy sufficiently in the summer but this squad should be doing much better, they proved it last year.

25 Oct 2026 19:11:24
The results last season set unrealistic expectations. Watching the games last year, the results were better than the performances. At the time I said that I couldn't see much of a strategy when it came to attacking. It seemed to be a case of giving the ball to Bruno and hope he creates something. This was all well and good when Bruno was in the best form of his life, but it's not sustainable.

This season, the limitations of Carrick's approach have come home to roost. Opponents know that we're going to try to hit them on the counter, and the team look at a loss with what to do in possession. Bruno's form has fallen off a cliff, and as today highlighted, without him creating, we have nothing.

On top of all that, there's zero confidence. The manager is setting up with everyone behind the ball. The players are scared to take risks in possession. And we start every game hoping not to lose, rather than trying to win. Our squad is good enough to be competing for a champions league spot. Carrick has failed to develop a coherent way to win as a team, despite having 10 months to work on it. It's not all his fault. But keeping him any longer will make it harder for his replacement to salvage anything.

25 Oct 2026 19:51:06
The writing was on the wall and some of us tried to tell others this.

C'est la vie.

25 Oct 2026 19:58:29
Carrick took over a well coached very fit team, that got us through to the end of season. It's been widely reported that this team isn't doing the fitness work, carrick when he took over shortened training times and gave extra days off for players.

25 Oct 2026 16:34:48
Another good club servant, a decent man, found to be ultimately out of his depth.

Although the crowd reaction at the end also sums up how he's certainly hasn't been helped by those above, and those on the pitch.

Hard to see him still being in charge for the next game, though I don't doubt he'd stay on with the understanding that he steps down once a new manager is ready to go.

25 Oct 2026 16:53:15
On this occasion I don't believe the players have anything to do with his probable sacking. He is clueless as a manager
Would he have got a top 10 managers job prior to us no, would he now get a top 10 job after us no. So why the f**k was he hired.
Players blamed for not running and he himself saying running stats are not everything.

He has instructed to players to not press to stay compact. When you are that compact you can't run. Completely out of his depth. Players get blasted in the press and by pundits over this yet they are following instructions, I think I would have to speak out.

25 Oct 2026 17:12:40
Was never good enough as I have said for months
I also was barracked when o said Santos and Tielemans are nowhere near level required nor is Cunha I even doubt Lammens is anywhere near what's required or Yoro DeLigt or Martinez and everyone disagreed how is that looking now
Heaven gone backwards and not kicked on
Baleba don't even look that great to me yes he runs around a lot but his passing not great. But give him benefit as early days
But it's a shocking squad
Terrible head coach and coaching team

How on earth anyone thinks any of them including SJR and Wilcox and Barrera Rae good enough is beyond me

Woodgate and evens and Carrick are diabolical and nowhere near level required this squad in a worse place then when SJR come in
Ineos have been final nail in the coffin.

25 Oct 2026 17:13:19
The fresh start did not last long.

25 Oct 2026 17:20:07
If you don't think the players' performances have been a contributing factor, then I don't know what to say.

25 Oct 2026 17:30:20
The players have been guff but carrick is totally out of his depth, it's not one or the other it's both. If the board continue with carrick though it's only going to get even worse.

25 Oct 2026 17:34:38
Yes that's exactly what I think. They aren't being trained correctly, they aren't fit enough, tactically they are being sent unprepared. As a manager it's your job to set out a pattern of play a shape to get them fit enough for the rigours of the Premier League and champions league. He's failed on all of these. Clearly the players aren't happy with the setup.

We are playing like a championship club by a championship manager. Since the start of the season there has been huge focus on running stats and a manager who doesn't believe they are important, they players have been blamed when that just isn't the truth. They have followed orders.

25 Oct 2026 17:41:03
Omg the players were shocking, lemmens! should have made that, not too sure why he did not!! Plus why did martitraz stop trying to cover!!

Maguire, simply too many games and getting even slower and can't or should not be being relied upon!!

But Carrick, certainly not good enough, huge lack of what to do, when you're up against it.

25 Oct 2026 17:57:58
Tim, I didn't say one or the other. I said he was out of his depth, and not helped by other factors.

25 Oct 2026 18:12:06
I know u didn't mate. Just seems to be the consensus on social media etc to exclusively blame one or the other when in reality they are all at fault.

25 Oct 2026 20:39:16
Tim, I read my reply back, and it sounded a bit curt. Wasn't meant to be, mate. I'm just sore because I acted all billy bigballs today and bet on United to win. 😁.

26 Oct 2026 06:07:27
The match going supporters definitely made it clear who they think is at fault and it ain't Carrick as far as they are concerned. I am sure they agree, as I do, that he is out of his depth and cannot get a tune out of a poor squad but that is the boards doing by appointing him and not supporting him sufficiently.

I am not sure replacing him will help as much as people hope. They are not going to suddenly open their wallets to fix everything. What they have done so far is put a band aid on a gaping wound. Replacing the band aid is just folly.

The final chants and abuse were telling. The problem is that the clowns in charge just just ignore it and carry on blindly.

Oh well. We all knew it was going to be a very interesting season. Edgeley Park here we come!

25 Oct 2026 16:17:15
Mr 12.5% keeps on bringing the highlights to this season in the EPL

Give him his dues he does have an overall 16.7% for the season.

I'm seeing signs here.

CATW!

25 Oct 2026 17:17:16
Guess what, despite this year, his win percentage is higher than any other manager post SAF. Nou camp has a lovely post above whereas you post like a 6 year old.

26 Oct 2026 10:37:59
It isn't.

25 Oct 2026 16:16:04
Wow that was toxic, fans cheering carrick and clapping him and then the minute he hit the tunnel massive boos and chants at the players. Honestly the one good thing that might come from this shambles is uniting the fans against the biggest issue at this club, the rats and INEOS.

25 Oct 2026 16:09:45
Most of those players really don't care about our club, l really expected some passion, urgency and fight today.

25 Oct 2026 16:05:41
The decision of who will be next manager will be massive. Like so many decisions that ineos make it will be Howe and imo the wrong choice. Not a long term solution will not bring titles or challenging to where we want to be.
It's has to be either conte or naglesmann to see real change.
The club is an absolute mess.


Carrick was never the right choice, we didn't learn from the ole appointment.
Fans turning on Bruno who without him the last 5 years who knows where we would be. Shameful. He called out the manager tactics, I can imagine as a team being called out by every pundit for not running or pressing when really that was the tactic.

25 Oct 2026 16:21:46
It will all hinge on Wilcox. All he wants are players and managers with Premier League experience. He's a clown that is as much out of his depth as Carrick. Apparently Wilcox turned down players for transfer that were far better than the ones we ended up with as they didn't have Premier League experience. That's going well!

Howe will come in and the players will likely walk all over him.

As much as I want Emery, it's not happening.

Conte will be a good short term option, he wouldn't put up with the players not trying and bad mouthing to the press.

But some of these players are so bad and yet they end up playing for the club for years. The club needs to take a look at Arsenal. They cancelled contracts of players that were bad apples and swallowed the cost for the greater good. That needs to happen here.

25 Oct 2026 15:12:21
INEOS will get us relegated.

25 Oct 2026 15:29:46
Now I'm not saying INEOS are good but they are still hamstrung by the majority owners who will still be in charge of what can be spent at the end of the day.

25 Oct 2026 15:41:40
Hes right thou, United are getting relegated. United are the worse team in league, dreadful from front to back.

25 Oct 2026 16:00:06
They will need to spend a lot in January. That won't happen because they say best in class but in truth it's whoever is cheap.