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21 Feb 2021 07:39:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th February 2021

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21 Feb 2021 11:13:42
Come on you reds!
3 1 to United is my prediction - we should easily win today.

21 Feb 2021 22:01:17
Nice prediction, I hope you had a few quid on it 😁.

20 Feb 2021 21:47:26
Setting up a search party for mighty reds, he's been gone for ages now.

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20 Feb 2021 13:25:12
Looking forward to tomorrow. We need to get back on track in the league to cement that cl place as early as possible.
I said yesterday I feared top 4 would be a struggle I should have said dog fight.
We need to maintain our buffer and take advantage of they slip up which they will.
Good fixture for us. They are not great and while it's not an easy game it is not a very tough one. Let's hope it spells the end of this recent dip in results.

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20 Feb 2021 13:55:25
Yeah Ken, We went from top of the league to a poor run of results against teams where we should have capitalized.

Lets hope we start to put another strong run in the league.

20 Feb 2021 20:46:13
Pretty much anyone who has been top this year has subsequently failed to capitalise, apart from City who seemed to have risen to the challenge, annoying I know.

Leicester were good last year, but struggled over the last 10 games, will they do the same this year? Chelsea seem to have improved under Touché, Liverpool have gone, West Ham could be a good outside bet and Everton, well I wouldn't rule out them going on a decent run.

20 Feb 2021 07:39:04
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th February 2021

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19 Feb 2021 19:09:41
I know fans get carried away with the lack of consistency, but if you look at the games, we struggle against the more defensive teams, no space behind to run into or play the through ball and against the high line we excel. I was surprised how naive Socied were, they obviously hadn't done their research. But one thing l did see was more first touch decisive passes, the quick ball around the corner which speeds up our play. I do get frustrated watching Rashford in space out wide but running into all their defenders as he cuts inside all the time. A variety in his game will improve our attacking play, he needs to get to the bye line and put in some crosses too. Against the more defensive teams we need more options.

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20 Feb 2021 01:25:07
Also, we should remember that most teams struggle against a team that sits in a low block defensive shape, is well drilled and looks to counter without over committing.

This has been the way for many years.

We could always resign Fellaini and have a plan b option 🤣👍.

20 Feb 2021 10:19:51
The stats show Rashford has only made made 22 cross this season, and only 3 have been successful, it is probably the reason you rarely see him get to the byline, its just not a natural part of his game.
Regarding the breakdown of teams who play the low block or defensive setup. The key is the fast circulation of the ball to try and stretch the defensive and create isolation at some point. Currently our transition play against these teams is too slow and gives time for the defending team to adjust its shape.

20 Feb 2021 12:38:19
spot on redcon, I thought RS were very naïve and I'm also getting frustrated watch MR trying to take on 3-4 defenders and loosing possession.

How many times do we see MR beat his man on the outside (or the defender has shown him the outside) only to turn back, to try to get the ball on his right foot. If MR wants to play on the left he really must start to use his left foot, even if it is not very good it will, at least defenders will have to try and mark that space.

21 Feb 2021 08:21:42
That's one way of looking at it, yet did anyone complain that Arjen Robben didn't have a right foot?

He could try and develop his weaker foot, and probably give the ball away more often than not doing so.

Or he could master the ability to cut in onto his stronger foot, and become so good at it that just like Robben you knew what he was going to do, but stopping it is extremely hard.

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19 Feb 2021 14:03:45
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new manager profile about, Gian Piero Gasperini

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19 Feb 2021 12:37:14
Tell you what was good to hear last night- a goalkeeper commanding his box.

Henderson didn't have much to do in terms of shots, but every ball he came for you could hear on the tv and he was very positive when he would come for the ball. His distribution is also excellent in comparison to de gea. Wouldn't mind him getting a good run now, but I can't see it.

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19 Feb 2021 13:46:45
Yup loved Deano organizing. He was also heard ordering the players to push forward.

19 Feb 2021 14:23:51
Ole needs to start Henderson in games where the opposition is going to be physical and rely on their deliveries into the box and that's where Hendo's qualities would come good for us. DeGea can play the other games and this will ensure Henderson settles in quietly while gaining more experience and confidence along the way to becoming first choice.

19 Feb 2021 14:50:38
Think we are in danger of mythologising Henderson. The biggest issue at the back is not the goalkeeper, its the defensive line. Time and again they hold a line, then Maquire will step back 2 paces, the forwards push up and the other 3 are suddenly chasing back. I can only assume Maguire does this because he is terrified his lack of pace will see him struggle and he so he tries to get a metre head start.

19 Feb 2021 16:00:36
Grim it’s not a case of thinking Henderson is something he isn’t. I do think though that the lack of confidence in de gea could be a reason why we drop deep at set pieces and maybe why maguire is dropping back- because he feels like he needs to deal with it. I admit complete speculation. Each time Henderson has played, Sheffield United game aside he’s been good and I think he probably helps the back 4 a lot more than de gea because he’s vocal.

19 Feb 2021 18:28:31
Grim,

Ive said the same thing about Maguire for ages. He is a liability. He consistently plays the opposition onside. he's the main reason why we concede so many goals.

20 Feb 2021 10:32:59
MH, I wouldn't go so far as saying he is a liability, it is more a case of getting him a complementary playing partner. I think he is trying too much to cover his deficiencies, speed is not his strong point and he needs to leave the faster defenders to be the last man, whereas he should be the one to take the ball out of defence. For me Bailly is his perfect playing partner, unfortunately Eric never seems to be able to play more than 5 games without getting injured, so we have never got to see the relationship develop.
Henderson is a very good keeper and will be the first choice when DDG leaves in June 2023. He comes across as a very confident lad, but the pressure cooker of playing for United is something different. He will still only be 25 when he takes over the No.1 jersey and a few years of playing the cup games and a few premier league games will do him no harm.

20 Feb 2021 11:15:54
GrimisnotDead you are probably undermining the qualities of a GK who can command his box and how immensely it helps the defense. The defense will be at ease knowing they have a keeper who isn't hesitant to come off his line and is brave to handle any physical challenges from the opposition while also being vocal to organize his defense.

You have to remember the defense is not just the defenders it also includes the GK and having a commanding one is only going to help improve the quality of our defense.

21 Feb 2021 11:24:18
Ultimately defending is all about communication, if your fellow defenders and keeper aren't telling you where they are, where the danger is and whether to push up tuck in or drop off then group decisions are being made by individuals often without all the information or a view of the bigger picture.

Generally when you think about the best keepers they have always been very vocal, Schmeichel, VDS, Khan, Cech, Seaman, Buffon, Newer etc, great keepers who you will see bellowing at their fellow defenders throughout the match.

Ultimately no one has a better view of what is happening than the keeper, passing that information on is a vital part of defending as a team.

While the debate over which is the better option currently for us DDG or Henderson will rumble on, one thing has become crystal clear over the past season and the tail end of last season, and that is DDG would probably be drown out by a church mouse. Only ever really saying anything once he is fishing the ball out of the back of his net.

19 Feb 2021 10:17:35
James did well yesterday and offers more pace and energy as well as an outlet to build counter attacks. Defensively as well helps out by closing players down quickly.

He has also shown his finishing skills with the goals he scored and can also assist with his crossing ability. Just needs the right guidance and he could become a valuable part of the squad.

With Martial really not doing much I would play James ahead of him especially in games where the opposition don't like to sit back and leave spaces in behind.

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19 Feb 2021 10:38:24
agree lpu - hope he picks the same starting 11 for newcastle and possibly gives more minutes to amad. never a real martial fan so wouldn't play him unless well up to rest another player. Possibly give minutes to tuanzebe resting awb 2nd half- well pleased last nite was a good performance all over the pitch.
Henderson vocality was great to hear and its about time he got a run at no 1.

19 Feb 2021 11:17:35
James played well yesterday and I'm pleased for him that he got his goal. That being said, he shouldn't be starting many games.

James is like Fred for me, will only be of use in specific games and is quite poor technically compared to others in their position. They are both very suited to counter attacking, if we have the majority of the ball we'd be far better with others on the pitch.

19 Feb 2021 11:37:26
He won't play the same team vs Newcastle, which makes sense for now at least until they reach the later rounds. But I believe he said Diallo may feature in the second leg, maybe he'll start.

19 Feb 2021 12:10:48
Fred is like the pantomime villain on here. He played two good key passes out to rashford yesterday that were quick and accurate and led to two goals. He is often neat and tidy in tight areas and we have had many good games this year where he has played very well. He is a much better player now than people on here are giving credit for.

19 Feb 2021 12:44:14
spenno- he probably won't but there's plenty of argument for doing so- henderson is a valid option to ddg on ability and confidense alone, the back four have played as a unit several games and the midfield defensive 2 fred and mctom have started more than not. fernandes rash have played almost every minute so that's a no brainer and then we have james who although hasn't started or played a lot has undoubted pace and against a injury ridden newcastle defence could cause problems as well as tracking back to double up on st maxim. cavani had a knock, shaw could be rested / sub and matic could either start or be sub to rest as last nite in case of mctom.
newcastle are so poor in midfield, have wilson out and probably will play the clowns boot, carroll. Ad the earlier poor defence options and the line up last nite against looks as good as any other. We also have subs / options.

19 Feb 2021 12:44:21
Dodgy,

Totally agree, he’s had a solid season.

19 Feb 2021 13:09:01
Yh Fred is perfect for the europa league, has always performed well in europe for us tbf, even in the champions league, missed him massively in leipzig.

Hes just a very odd player, so good off the ball but absolutely baffling to watch on the ball, second touch is normally a tackle and his forward passing accuracy is about as reliable as reliant robin.

19 Feb 2021 13:11:56
Agree on James, I believe he takes his chance when played more than others. Although I believe Donny will come good for us I don't think he has taken his chance as he should, but many think he is not getting a fair break but James does well when called on but not many think he is not getting a fair break.

19 Feb 2021 13:15:07
Fred is the most improved player of the lot and credit where it's due he has been consistent with his performances this season. There is still room for improvement.

19 Feb 2021 14:05:22
Fred is a decent midfielder though not top class. His work ethic and attitude is what I like in him.

DJ is a squad player imo and has to improve a lot in end product.
At the moment, our first choice front-line is Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood.
Diallo is close to making the starting XI per Ole, interested and excited to watch him.

19 Feb 2021 14:45:56
Fred has improved hugely this season, especially in the second half of the season. He covers every area of the pitch, so his engine and application was never in doubt. But his touch and passing ability were awful and he was a liability who teams would target to press in our half. He seems a lot more composed now, and his passes aren't going astray anything like how they used to. I'm not going to damn him with praise, but it's important to see that improvement.

19 Feb 2021 21:02:42
I think he (Fred) has taken a while to settle. But he is taking over the role from Matic now I think.

If fully fit I would have put Matic in first team for stability and forward passing / ball retention / defense screening etc. Now I would pick Fred first up for that role every time. Big improvement from when he first came.

Dan James is a funny one. He looks out of his depth I think. He still does good things. He works hard. But his body language looks like he is lacking in confidence at this level, and his end product needs to improve. Good impact this week, so hopefully he gets some confidence and increases his impact. Because he can certainly do a job in a squad game. Be is more natural winger than many of our first team forwards.

20 Feb 2021 19:33:38
Bang average player.

 


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