Manchester United Banter 4

01 Aug 2026 16:00:09
Did anyone watch the match today? Good win tbf.

Mount played well in the double pivot, has to be said. Santos looks solid. Thwaites looked good when he came on. Mbuemo was sharp. Lacey, Loro, Maguire, Shaw all played well.

Heaven for me looked a bit inconsistent and error prone, but showed some good stuff too. JJ came on, looked physically, he did look like a child, but held his own and had some good touches.

01 Aug 2026 15:51:11
It may be nothing, but I think there may have been some frustration or tension from Mr. Amas towards Gabriel. On more than one occasion, instead of passing the ball to Gabriel, Mr.

Amas chose to play the ball backwards, and Gabriel was moved out to the right. At one point, Mr. Twaites appeared to say something to Mr. Amas, but Mr. Amas seemed to brush him off.

01 Aug 2026 17:03:10
Maybe Gabriel referred to him as Hazza or Massy rather than Mr Amass?

03 Aug 2026 14:16:37
A typo is easier to argue with than the actual point, I suppose. Shame you couldn't manage the latter.

01 Aug 2026 11:07:29
Three weeks today until it starts and the below is today’s report in the main press. Maybe not attributed to anyone but have to say it is what we are seeing.

“The club are still assessing market movements, checking who is available at the right price, before deciding on their next priority position.”

Looking for bargains. Manchester United.

01 Aug 2026 13:12:52
Sadly, the club is being run by idiots. Or that's how they appear. The club shouldn't be looking at who is available at an acceptable price. They should know who they want and go get them.

01 Aug 2026 13:36:43
This statement could be attributed to most clubs. Yes, we are looking for value, but will go big if the right player is available.

The club will be working on multiple deals, and we should be pleased with how little is coming out of the club, unlike previous years.

We need to see how the window closes.

01 Aug 2026 13:46:56
Fallguy, a lot more idiots in our fanbase than in the boardroom.

01 Aug 2026 16:25:44
Tumble, I assume from your reply, you disagree with my post, and you instead refer to me as the idiot. I have never claimed I'm not an idiot. Very good chance I am. But luckily I'm not in charge of United.

But nonetheless, it doesn't change the fact I'm entitled to an opinion on an open fans forum, just as you are.

01 Aug 2026 14:48:10
Firstly, it's almost certainly guess work by the media. Unlike when we had Woodward running things, the press seems to get very little from the club now about targets or movements.

We've seen this multiple times recently with them not having a clue what is going on until the players are practically driving to Carrington for the medical, case in point all our signings so far this summer. By the time the media get a whiff of it the deal is practically signed.

So in all likelihood any media report is just guess work and/or click bait.

Secondly, the transfer market is a very fluid and constantly changing market, it is notoriously unstable and reactive. Therefore, the club SHOULD always be open to change and be ready to react if needed. Which means the club should be assessing options and have fluid plans.

We have complained in the past about the club being too rigid and refusing to alter or change plans, to the point of massively over paying for players. A reluctance to walk away from a deal to the point of stupidity.

For the second time in a week it seems I am saying that you can't have your cake and eat it.

We can't complain the club won't walk away from deals when they become too expensive or complicated, then also complain that the club is "assessing market movements" and being adaptive to the market. That would be very hypocritical, and I'd like to think we aren't hypocrites.

Reading between the lines, and what I would hope is happening, I expect the club have a list of potential targets for a range of positions, and depending on how things pan out they will move between potential targets for various positions.

For example, we all agreed before the window opened that we needed to sign 2 or 3 midfielders, that we needed a LB, a LW, a ST, and a CB. We also needed a back up keeper, and possibly an upgrade at RB.

That's potentially 9 players, which we were never going to sign all 9 players, obviously. The question then is which of those positions do we sign players in?

Is it better to sign our 5th choice LB because we are unable to get any of our preferred options, or does it make more sense to instead move on and sign our first choice RB instead? Despite LB being a higher priority. Then reassess the LB market and maybe get a preferred option next summer.

Would that be a bad thing? Would that be poor club management. Sure it's almost the complete opposite to the shambles that came before, but then isn't that a good thing.

It's not even just the case of reacting to the players we fail to sign, but also to the ones we fail to sell.

Whether we like it or not, if the club cannot find a suitable solution to move Rashford on, then signing a LW even a ST becomes less vital this summer as those are positions that Rashford will cover. Which probably explains why we signed a young lad in Thompson who is more for the future, but could potentially play a role this season. It might also explain why we haven't made a move for a back up ST, especially as we haven't found Zirkzee a new club yet.

If both Rashford and Zirkzee stay, along with out current LW/ST options (Dorgu, Cunha, Thompson, Sesko, Mbeumo) then that's 7 potential option for two positions. It no longer makes sense to spend a significant amount of money (30-40) on a back up ST, or invest heavily in another LW option this summer.

That's an example of how a the club will have to react to the market due to us being unable to move a couple of players on.

Likewise, if there is no interest in Mount and he's fit and playing well in a deeper midfield role, then that also reduces our need to spend heavily on a third midfield signing.

It does seem that the club are now pushing more towards a new LB, than a midfielder, LW or ST right now. However, if Rashford and/or Zirkzee leaves then I expect we'll shift our focus to sign another forward.

Similarly if a potential Tchouameni or Baleba deal is going to be too expensive then it's best to park those deals. Maybe explore other options, or focus on other positions and maybe come back to those deals later in the window if the prices become more reasonable.

The whole market seems a little slow right now. The world cup and players being unavailable has slowed the market, along with not many big deals yet having a domino effect and greasing the wheels of the market. I expect we'll see a late flutter of activity in the final couple of weeks of the transfer market after the season starts (for all clubs not just ourselves).

We just need a little patience, let's wait until after the window closes before we judge our transfers.

01 Aug 2026 17:57:47
Fallguy, they are smart people trying to get on with their jobs.
You don't know what their jobs are, or their brief, or their plan, or what's going on at all.
So, in my opinion, it's idiotic to call them idiots just because they are not, or can't, and probably never will do what you want them to.


You've no idea what plan or constraints they're working to.
Try to up your tolerance levels, and hope for the best.

01 Aug 2026 20:58:32
The quote (which is by a journalist who has proved he has no idea what our plans are) doesn't say anything about bargains. It says we are looking to buy players at the right place. Or maybe we should buy average players like Antony for £80m again, as that's really worked out well for us in the past.

01 Aug 2026 21:11:52
I don't think we're run by idiots, the opposite, actually. We're turning into a well run club who won't be held to ransom. The signings we've made over the last 2 years have proved that.

01 Aug 2026 09:51:39
Rashford really gets battered on here. I don't understand the hate he gets at all. Seems like a good lad. I still believe he can give something to the team too so I'm rooting for him.

01 Aug 2026 10:49:52
There are 4 main reasons, Banjoe.

1. He said he wants to leave.
2. His commitment and dedication have been lacking, turning up late, going partying.
3. He appeared to not be trying too hard.
4. Most damning, for the last 2 years, he has been pants.

Yeah, seems like a good lad.

01 Aug 2026 11:01:27
Good lad? Two better words: "bad egg", and that is what is printable here.

That situation, where he was in N Ireland at a night club, could not make training the next morning, rang in sick, flew back too late, and then totally disrespected the shirt by flouncing around on the field.

All unacceptable.

He must never play in that shirt again. If Carrick allows it, then he is a weak manager.

01 Aug 2026 11:07:36
Hate. 😂😂😂 What is it with people and this hate today? It's disgusting and totally inappropriate, imo.
I don't know of anybody that hates Rashford.
I never want him to play for United again for all the reasons above, but I don't hate him.


Dumb expression, and used too often. Not getting at you, Banjoe, lots of people use it.
I hope he is sold or loaned, and if not, left with the reserves. Highly unlikely, but that's my view.

01 Aug 2026 11:14:55
He's unprofessional and was part of the creation of a toxic culture at the club. We've turned over a new leaf, and part of that was not indulging individuals in the way Rashford has been for years. If he comes back, it would need to be with the condition that he acknowledges the need to change his approach dramatically.

01 Aug 2026 11:26:17
The club will make the correct decision for the club. He's a good player, despite some of the nonsense on here suggesting otherwise. If Carrick thinks he can add something to this squad and team, then that, for me, actually shows far more strength of character than weakness to allow him back, coach him and contribute.

He lost his way, had enough of the basket case this club was under Ten Hag and Amorim, and we have no idea what was said to him during this time.



We're all so quick to judge, and keen to write people off in this world. It's tiresome.

It may be he has backed himself into a corner, and his best option is Utd. Do I think he'll stay? I'm not so sure. His options now feel limited to us, Chelsea, or Spurs. I know, here, I'd rather knuckle down and play.

01 Aug 2026 11:31:29
The question I ask myself is, why didn't Barca want him? He had a decent season, but then they decided not to spend £27m for him, opting instead to pay £$70m for Gordon, same position.

Why the extra £43m? Age, maybe: Rashford 28yrs and Gordon 25yrs.

I think it is something more; they have handled him for a whole season, and he did well for them, but they still do not want him at a bargain price!!

01 Aug 2026 12:39:10
The club don't want him, but may be forced to keep him if he doesn't get a move he wants. It's a shame the whole situation.

01 Aug 2026 13:13:56
Well reading what Redman thinks about him, I would say "hate" is not far off the mark, Tumbleweed.

01 Aug 2026 13:21:22
Eric

I'm not quick to judge. I defended him for years, ask United Addict, he and I used to spar regularly about Rashford, and I was always in his corner.

But what I have seen is a nice young man suddenly start being the big I am. The Rolls Royce, the bling, the tatts, the nightclubs. He's free to do all these things, but when there is a lack of professionalism off the pitch, and a lack of effort on the pitch, then it grates.



I don't hate him, I'm just sad and disappointed at how his career and approach has regressed.

He could have been the next captain, he could have been the future, but right now he's struggling to find a top club that wants him.

01 Aug 2026 13:26:11
Banjoe


I don't hate Rashford or anyone tbh. Simple, he disrespected the club and must never play for us again. No hate.

01 Aug 2026 13:31:08
Banjoe, Redman doesn't even know Rashford, and certainly does not hate him.
Redman, do you hate Marcus
Rashford?

01 Aug 2026 15:05:07
The problem is, he is supposed to be a United fan and is an academy graduate, which means he gets held to a higher standard by the fanbase than players we sign, as he's living our dream.

Is that fair? Absolutely not, but it's the case anyway.

He is someone you would expect to be a leader, certainly an advocate for the club in our dressing room. Yet the stories that leak out seem to suggest something very different.

There was a time that he was a hard working, dedicated player, someone who played with painkilling injections and delayed surgery to help the club. He was also performing well on the pitch, often only second to Bruno for goal contributions each season.

But then something changed with him, and it appears that he stopped playing for his boyhood club and just started clocking in and out of work, giving the bare minimum. He started becoming late, going out partying, and generally going off the rails a little bit.

I'm not sure what happened, but something shattered his idea of what the club is, or how he sees the club.

Rumours are that his personal life went a little awry, that he broke up with his long term girlfriend, who was supposedly a stabilising influence.



Maybe he felt the club owed him more support, maybe he felt let down by the club.

Either way, his performances dropped and his attitude was seemingly affecting others. To the point that the club were prepared to ship him out on loan to Barcelona.

Maybe too many bridges have been burned, maybe too much has passed. But if a solution to leave cannot be found, then he and the club need to find a way to work together. Maybe having a former teammate in Carrick as the manager might be able to get through to him. Maybe his time away from the club has allowed him to reassess his priorities/opinions.

If we can get the 2022/23 version of Marcus Rashford back, 30 goals and 11 assists in all competitions, along with a hard working attitude, then maybe fans will start to soften their view of him.

I hope we see the best of him again, it would be a shame for his story to peter out, and end with him being bundled out the side door. But I'm not sure I have much expectation that he will find his best form for us again.

01 Aug 2026 07:22:33
Hopefully these Igor Thiago rumours are true. He would be a really good signing.

01 Aug 2026 09:17:35
Hopefully not. He's bloody awful.

Watkins for me.

01 Aug 2026 11:24:31
Trumours, are you being serious? Igor Thiago is really good and his style of play would really suit us. He had a poor World Cup, but that doesn't make him a poor player. He was one of the best players in the league last season.

01 Aug 2026 15:09:25
He had a great season last season, but then couldn't keep his spot against Cunha (playing out of position) for Brazil this summer.

Depending on price, he wouldn't be a bad option, but we might also end up paying a premium buying him after a purple patch.

I think there are other options available. Ollie Watkins is probably the best of the bunch, Jean-Phillpe Mateta could also be a good option, or we could go a little left field and sign someone like Matias Fernandez-Pardo from Lille.

An exciting and explosive young 21-year-old who looks equally as good on the left or up top. Sure, he doesn't offer the experience that we might want to supplement Sesko, but his flexibility and longevity might be worth it.

02 Aug 2026 08:50:04
I am serious.

How he got that many peen goals year, I have no idea, but having watched him in full games, he gets a lot of opportunities, but his finishing is poor.

I bet you he won't get 15 this season.

01 Aug 2026 02:37:29
Baresi's passing got me thinking.

Can you build a squad of one club legends!

Harder than I thought and had to use the internet to fill a couple of blanks!

GK - Yashin
RB - Neville
CB - Maldini and Baresi
LB - Fachetti
DM - Billy Wright
CM - Scholes
AM - Totti
RW - Mazzola
ST - Thomas Muller
LW - Giggs

Manager is Bob Paisley

Subs:
GK - Maier
CB - Billy McNeill
DF - Said Altinordu
MF - Jimmy Dickinson
FW - Nat Lofthouse

Some team!

31 Jul 2026 16:49:35
With Howe going and all his backroom staff a good coaching addition would be Graeme Jones think he would provide the attacking ideas and Holland the defensive.

I think you've said Jones is a good coach before ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think that was me mate. Maybe Ed25? I am sure he was at Everton for a bit under Martinez, so he might know him from then.}

31 Jul 2026 18:38:30
It was a decent while back, to be fair, him learning from Martinez would change my mind!

How he made that Portugal team with some of the players they had (I know Ronaldo was part of the problem), so insipid is mental, possession for possession's sake is not for me.



Newcastle have been more action and attack, and I don't remember Everton being quite as bad as Portugal/Belgium were under Martinez.

01 Aug 2026 09:38:03
I imagine one of the reasons Martinez got the Portugal gig was that he'd play ball and allow Ronaldo to manage the team.
Total fraud, who had possibly the best Belgian squad ever, underachieved, and then got handed the Portugal gig and one of their best squads ever, and did the same, but like I say, if he'd had the backbone to deal with Ronaldo, he wouldn't have got the job in the first place.

31 Jul 2026 11:38:45
I do wonder what the departure of the Manager Eddie Howe will do to any hopes of us signing their left back Hall.
Reports suggest Hall and Howe had the same agent, and that presented a conflict whilst both were there, but that now is not the case. Does that make it easier? Newcastle fly off to Spain for pre-season training later today, apparently. The new manager due in tomorrow does look a strange decision, but I can’t see him wanting to let too many key players go.

They have let several players go already, and Guamares looks likely as well.

If we are interested in Hall, is it now easier to get him or harder? If we wait for them to sell Guamares, it feels like they may be more determined to keep Hall.

Looks ideal for me and we cannot go into a season relying on Shaw. Dorgu isn’t a good enough left back.

Why are we waiting?

31 Jul 2026 13:28:53
It's hard to know if it makes it easier or harder.
They have lost 2 already in Gordon and Tonali.
Bruno looks set to go, so do they need to sell Hall. Will he push himself out like it appears Bruno will or Isak did?

You seem to have no idea how transfers work, Redman. It's not like the days of old where you're sent an offer to the club chairman.
Nowadays
You need to get agreement with an agent.
Then the players.

The agent needs to see if the selling club are open to offers and get an indication of what offer will be accepted.
Only then will clubs enter club-to-club talks.
If the player's club won't engage or get a heads of agreement with the agent for the player's departure, no offer will be made.
Discussions happen between clubs and agents before anything else can happen.
You say why are we waiting?
How do you know we are?

You've no idea what conversations are happening and the order things need to be done in.
The selling club will often not agree to a sale and meanwhile look for a replacement so as not to disadvantage themselves, and then when that's done agree to a sale when they have sorted their cover.


I spoke with a current EPL manager about this only a few weeks ago.
The managers/coaches rarely get involved until late in the day, with some exceptions.

The costs are very, very complex, with many hands in the pie, so, and to quote him, "nothing is as it seems from the outside."
He said complex contracts, agents, and outsiders make things very difficult.
When he was a player, he had teammates who had signed over all their rights and responsibility to agents/companies that controlled their every move, and they had little or no say.

I think Hall is a super player and would be a good signing, but Newcastle don't have to sell, and unless they give an indication they will accept an offer then what can you do.
They may have, after speaking to Hall, agreed to sell him but when they are ready.
So we either wait for him or move on.

31 Jul 2026 13:33:00
I'd like Hall. But not sure we'll go for a marquee left back. I know Shaw is injury prone and getting on a bit, but he's had arguably his best season for many years in terms of performance and injuries, and Hall will expect to be first choice. I just don't feel that the club considers Shaw quite done just yet. Maybe just me.

31 Jul 2026 13:38:58
Sell Shaw whilst he has some stock, after his amazing season, everyone keeps raving about.

31 Jul 2026 14:12:05
You'd find fewer buyers for Shaw than Rashford.

31 Jul 2026 14:28:17
But Shaw probably wouldn't be as fussy as Rashford.

31 Jul 2026 14:46:58
TW,

Amazed any players get sold based on your post, but they do, and when a club don't want to sell.
Somehow, Liverpool managed to buy Isak, Spurs Tonali. Amazing how it keeps happening, and to think it's not done on the back of a cigarette packet. There again, Woodward would have bought Benson & Hedges for our defence.

31 Jul 2026 15:11:43
Why are you amazed? It's how all transfers get done for the overwhelming majority.
It's very different from how it was in our day.
When all parties want the same thing, it works efficiently.

The difficulty happens when a player needs to force an exit. Most don't.
Tonali is nothing like Isak, he was allowed to leave easily when the price was met. The fact you compare/liken the 2 shows how little you understand.


Isak forced his way out, not training and refusing to play, going on strike effectively.
It's becoming a bit more common but still unusual for a player to do that, as it destroys his and his agent's reputation and breaks trust. It's not something the buying club likes to see happening either.

Woodward is gone thankfully but the negative impacts of his decision making and transfer ignorance will live with us for a while yet.

31 Jul 2026 15:27:31
TW,

You missed the sarcasm in my "amazed".

Oh, things have changed since we bought Big Jim Holton, but didn't Ronaldo say something about being a slave before we sold him.

Look, I understand the principles and the nuances, yet we need to get deals done. Another season of only Shaw at LB is high risk. Plus a CM, plus a ST.

31 Jul 2026 16:06:34
I'm sure they will get done what they can. We need all sorts, so won't get things done this summer. Selling clubs won't make it easy, Red Man. If Newcastle can spoil things for us until the last day of the window, they will. They are not there to help us, they are the opposition.

31 Jul 2026 21:40:09
We need to be ruthless, just get rid of players and pave the way for the newer direction.
I think you'd find ubs come in for Shaw, but he is probably just riding the last wave. I hope, beyond hope, we aren't dumb to renew his deal like we did with Maguire.

The door was wide open, just say goodbye to Maguire, and we buckled at the last minute and kept him. One more year for the boys, hey.

31 Jul 2026 11:25:11
Wow, Rip Franco Baresi, best central defender I have ever seen in my lifetime. What a player.
Was part of imo the best club side I've seen in my lifetime, AC Milan of the late 80's, early 90's.
I even had the Mediolanum sponsored shirt before it was pinched by a tea leaf on holiday many years ago.

31 Jul 2026 11:56:16
Part of that era of unbelievable Italian defenders, Baresi, Maldini, Costacurta etc. Brilliant player and a big loss.

31 Jul 2026 12:55:53
👍Tassotti at RB too. Ancelotti, Evani, Rijkaard, Donadoni across midfield, Gullit & Van Basten up front. What a side.

31 Jul 2026 13:30:05
Magic team. Hard as nails and plenty of flair.

31 Jul 2026 21:13:49
My favourite team of all time in that era (beyond Utd). Pure class all the way through it.

31 Jul 2026 23:18:38
The golden age of Italian football for sure. Names that just roll off the tongue. Yet, according to some on social media, all the greatest players to ever play the game are playing it now. Baresi had it all and just looked so calm and composed, absolute world class, and his medals prove it.

31 Jul 2026 23:24:54
My favourite defender ever.

30 Jul 2026 23:38:34
Style of play?
Understandably, a lot of the posts have been focused on the recruitment of players. Hopefully there will be a few more astute signings but my purely personal view is that we won't get good value on players Madrid or PSG don't want.
I'm more interested in the style of play that we develop this year and it will be interesting to see if Carrick can stamp his identity on that.

The second half of last season was fairly pragmatic and really just showed how chaotic Amorim was.
It would be great to see the side develop a really strong identity again and that will be how I judge Carrick more than anything else.

31 Jul 2026 06:48:57
RedD

Chaotic? No. Amorim had a fixed idea and had a style of play he wanted to implement. It wasn't going well, but it needed time and the right players. Carrick implemented more of a counter-attack game.

We don't really know yet what style Carrick wants. We only know Middlesbrough.

I am equally of the opinion that Madrid players are not necessarily the answer; they are being let go, if they are, for a reason.

31 Jul 2026 10:16:27
NRD, I agree that you rarely get good value signing players from other top sides. Not only is there normally a good reason for why they are prepared to sell them, they are also normally on high wages already, meaning you are forced to paying large fees and wages for a player that for some reason a top side is prepared to let leave.

There are also occasional exceptions to the rule. Sometimes a player just wants a new challenge, or a top club is facing financial challenges and needs to sell a player, or they have a new manager who wants to take the team in a different direction that does not suit a specific player. However, these are rare and you will want to be 100% sure that this is the reason for the sale as it will be an expensive purchase, which comes with higher risks.

For example, I rate Tchouameni as a top player, but personally I think he is someone to probably avoid this summer. He'd be very expensive (70m+, and wages of around 350-400k per week), and you have to wonder why Real Madrid would be happy to let him go to fund the signing of a 30 year old who needs an operation and has a recent history of injury issues. The final issue is that I'm not sure Tchouameni fits the current football meta. When looking around for alternative players with a similar style of play/skill set it becomes obvious that there are very few options. Personally I think that is because the current football landscape doesn't really have a place for that old school defensive midfielder.

Midfielders now typically fall into one of two categories, technically gifted passers, and physically dominant pressers. Both are expected to do a large amount of defensive work, but they are also both expected to contribute to ball progression either through passing or carrying.

For me Tchouameni is more like the Makelele, he'll stay deep, shield your back four, win the ball when it comes near him, and make mostly safe, short passes to more technically secure teammates. He's not a presser who'll jump out to win the ball, and he's not an expansive passer who will switch play with 50 yard passes, or thread dangerous through balls through the middle. He's also not a player who'll typically get on the ball and carry it 30-40 yards up the pitch, or dribble through lines of pressure.

Really he specialises in winning the ball in front of the back four, and being able to drop deep between the CB's to allow them to get on the ball and pass forward. Undoubtedly he's the best in the world at doing that. Unfortunately in the modern game that isn't a skill set that has proven to be particularly successful given how other teams are playing. At Real Madrid for example they don't get pressed high all that often, and they tend to have the majority of the ball. Meaning for most of the game their is little need for a player like Tchouameni to be on the pitch and he doesn't really offer enough on the ball to justify him being there. That is why they want to replace him with Rodri, a player who is good defensively (not as good as Tchouameni though) but also great on the ball.

Like you I am also really interested to see how our style of play develops under Carrick. He seems like a good blend of idealism and pragmatism. He's clearly intelligent and can coach a ball dominant style of play similar to how he played as a player, and we saw that at Middlesbrough. Yet he isn't rigid with it, he's prepared to be flexible, and to adjust the team style to suit the players he has available. Which is what we need as we rebuild this squad.

Someone who has a preferred way of playing, a vision to aim for, but is prepared to adapt to get the best out of what he has until he has the right tools to play the way he wants.

It'll be interesting to see how we play this season, there are some interesting things we are seeing in pre-season, which is where Carrick can actually start to implement some of his principles of play.

We seem to be setting up more in a mid-block, rather than a low block or a high press. That gives good balance as it creates some space in behind but without bringing the wolf to your door like a low block. We seem to be looking to play in packs, with quick passes, one or two touch, drawing teams over to one side of the pitch, then quickly switching play into the space on the other side.

It's effective, and when it clicks you can get some lovely quick interplays and score some well worked goals. While it also allows good defensive coverage, which is creating more stability in defence and less pressure on individuals to save us. It's a very team focused approach, rather than playing to individuals. I think that is something that the media are missing out on as Bruno has thrived as it does get the best out of him, but it's not set up to play for him. If you take him out then it will still work the same, just maybe a slight drop in efficiency due to Bruno being replaced with a player not as good as him (although long term I can see Amad being his replacement and being excellent in there).