Manchester United banter 4

29 Oct 2025 09:23:58
Finally managed to watch the highlights of the Brighton match and it bore no resemblance to the MBM commentary I was following on match day! MBM made it out like we were under a huge amount of pressure but I think Brighton were lucky not to be on the receiving end of a 4-0 result.


Lammens has been a real upgrade and looks like a proper keeper finally but he'd fancy his chances keeping the first goal out 8/ 10 times.
The second goal was just piss poor defending from Zirkzee.
Mbeuemo is some player though. That last goal was top class!

29 Oct 2025 18:13:09
Lammans (pronounced Lommens) is no lemon. A lot of dip on Danny's free kick, but, yes, maybe he would expect himself to do better.

Brighton played some nice football but made very few if any really good chances whereas United went close on at least 3 occasions. Sesko should have done better with his chance. Bruno was unlucky when he burst through. Could have gone anywhere.

It was a tense ending. The subs did not do well. We were cruising until Dorgu gave the ball away and then nearly got himself sent off. Zirkzee, who IMO is not good enough to succeed in the EPL, is also out of practice, probably demoralized, and failed miserably to do his job at the near post. He's another of the terrible purchases who will probably look good in another league, but in any event is nowhere near as good as McTominay. We all agree - and I'm sure the club does too - that the next stage is to rebuild the midfield. Cas might get another season, Bruno's also getting on, Ugarte has done nothing to convince anyone that he's good enough to dominate at DM in the EPL.

I liked the fact that at the time when Dorgu did make his almost disastrously costly error, we were still attacking rather than playing the game out. On the balance of play it should have been a far easier win but somehow United we always tend to make things more exciting/ stressful than the game should dictate.

28 Oct 2025 17:53:00
Would anyone disagree that the player of the season for us so far is Brian Mbuemo? There really isn't any aspect of his game that's a weakness. Great goalscorer, excellent crosser, extremely hard working, oozing positivity and what about that beard? He's a true difference maker. Hopefully we won't miss him too much while he's at AFCON.

28 Oct 2025 18:03:56
I tubing we will miss him plenty if he goes. Have Cameroon qualified yet? I've read a very convoluted qualifying journey.
Its hard to say who our best player has been recently. Sure goals win games and attackers usually get most of the plaudits but the keeper delight and my least fav player Shaw have been very good in the last few games also.

29 Oct 2025 03:32:56
De Ligt, Shaw, Cas, Bruno have all been good.

Mount, Mbeumo, Cunha, Amad all starting to come good.

29 Oct 2025 17:47:04
Mbuemo has been such a breath of fresh air but Lammens for me.
Immediately raised the team and confidence.

29 Oct 2025 22:20:45
Cunha, he’ll of a player. Does the dirty work and I loved his performance against Liverpool.
Sesko has been steady and looks to be forming a good understanding with Cunha and Mbuemo. Overall, the summer signings along with De Ligt and Casemiro have been the outstanding performers in the last few games.

28 Oct 2025 13:28:25
Shashank fair play on your post below.
Its not that you were wrong it was your opinion at the time. As none of us are educated on the finer points of managing a professional football team at this level we are mostly guessing or reacting to the here and now emotionally.
Not everybody is a strategic thinker or looks at the bigger picture.
Most football fans are reacting on emotions and feelings and can't see past the nose on their own face.
Some here are more in out in out than the hokey kokey.
This is a project and we are a long way from the finished article (if there is such a thing) .
There will be plenty more ups and definitely more downs before the season is out.
But we are on the right track with the right leader.
The place has been toxic from top to bottom for a long time. The business has been undergoing a full restructure and many jobs needed to be cut on top of a poor performing team the noise was unbearable.
I think you said before you go to the games regularly so you should be able to feel the shift in mood better than some of us.
Some of your posts recently were made through obvious frustration and that's understandable.
Strategic thinking and upheaval takes time to reward.
Some of our less mature posters are like the baby bull with the daddy bull looking at a herd of cows in the next field.

The baby bull wants to Charge down and get stuck in and runs out of steam halfway through the herd. But the daddy bull walks down slowly thinking strategically biding his time so he can service the whole herd.
Daddy bull is strategic, and understands that taking time and doing things right will deliver better results.
Lots of fans are like the baby bull just interested in the here and now. Sometimes the penny drops with maturity, knowledge and experience that means there are more important things than the here and now and you shouldn't always react on emotions.
When your a fan its sometimes hard to not react negatively I see Liverpool fans at it now.
I hope and I believe you are right and that we have a keeper in RA.
If i was in a bunker with him staying my leader and he asked me to go over the brow of the hill, I wouldn't be wondering if I should i'd be straight over. If eth had asked me i'd be looking at everyone else asking if they trust his judgement as I didn't.
RA is a leader of men no doubt about that imo.
The most idiotic comment I've read on here from a so called fan was a call to hate the club but support the team. Says all you need to know about the moral fibre of that over emotional person.

28 Oct 2025 14:48:55
Great post Ken. Shappyesque :P
Got you point in one paragraph.

28 Oct 2025 16:00:26
The rest was just a load of bull S3x ?

I am firmly in the give RA more time club. I don't count last season. So everyone looking at his win loss etc is just penalising him for a mess he didn't creat. In fact he is the one who has come in and weeded out the ones who need to go and we now feel like he started fresh this season.

Still deficiencies in the squad. Still issues with adoption and results from his new playing style. But now it feels like he should be judged by his results. Take away last season and let him stand or fall from July onwards. So far it is okay and I can see the squad progress, if not the long term vision for this squad.

28 Oct 2025 16:35:14
Db he didn't want the job in oct but he was sort of forced into it i guess.
Walked into the middle of a sh##storm.
But I'm sort of glad he did because it helped weed out some of the eejits in the squad.
Even now he is still walking a tightrope.
We could lose a couple and fall back quite easily. If that happens we can expect a return of all our missing posters and trolls who seem to have less to say after a few wins. Eric kurtis and shashank being the exceptions.
But the work ethic is better from the team so even with some square pegs in round holes we should do enough to improve.


The last time united were within 6 points of the lead after 9 games was when fergie was in charge. So he is doing something right.
2 tough away games in the next 2 I don't know if we will win lose or draw them. i'm hoping for a minimum of 4 points from those next 2 games if we get that then we can all relax as i'd say relegation would be out of the question. ?.

28 Oct 2025 16:38:49
LOL. condescending or what! Rather eloquent piece of writing I wonder why that is, none of the deliberate mistakes within it either to throw of the scent but of course some of us know….

But to the football and all those that were calling for sell Bruno and replace with Baleba, hope you watched the game, how poor is Baleba.100 mil my A***
But runs about a lot Fred done that….

28 Oct 2025 17:20:43
Some positive results and amorim finally getting some momentum.
I was one of the people who more so questioned the players than the style of play luke shaw in the last 2 games has stood into midfield more.


I was critical if him in pre season game against Everton and the arsenal game aswell for pretty much taking ugarte and casemiro out of position back to him.

28 Oct 2025 17:35:25
John i think we have all been critical at one point or another.
No doubt its been slower than we all wanted but the size of the task warrants more tolerance and support.
I think our 4 new signings have only played 3 games together and the new front 3 have started together on 3 occasions.
Time on the training ground is helping and the preparation time we have week to week is slowlypaying divefends.


There will be a few more out results I've no doubt about that.
It going to be some scrap for the European places i'd expect Liverpool to bounce back soon enough with the quality they have to maybe push for a cl place. But at least we are still in the mix at this stage and not hopeless.

28 Oct 2025 22:28:25
I think most of us wanted RA to be given time to succeed. I also think it's fair to say that most of us were really disappointed and had doubts about him after a decent pre season and some exciting signings when we played so poorly after the Arsenal game up until the last three matches.

Now the thing is not get carried away by those last three wins.

We should be beating Sunderland but it was no walk in the park. The Liverpool win was great for bragging rights but Brentford showed them up as a struggling team. We didn't beat the Liverpool team of last year. Our win against Brighton was welcome (especially the number of goals we scored) but when they turned up in the second half we were far from comfortable defending.

Our midfield is still lightweight and we still concede too many chances and goals. I am happy that we are improving but will be happier still if and when we start keeping clean sheets too.

Confidence is a mercurial thing. It can disappear even quicker than it arrives and is a fragile thing. Let's hope that we keep on winning because once the players really are confident and if they can win six or seven on the bounce then they will surely show the full range of talent that they have and other teams will fear them. It will also give RA the ability to keep on coaching how we wants without the inhibiting pressure of constant criticism that follows defeats.

30 Oct 2025 07:01:55
I am at all the games at home and go to some of the away fixtures. mood was he is gone a few weeks ago and all my mates where done with him but something has changed. Went to the scouse away fixture thinking the worst and the abuse we get when we play them.

I hope we get a couple in in Jan on loan that gets us to the summer. It just did not sit right with me sitting in the bottom half and losing games the way we did we have a better squad than that. He has turned it around and hope we start winning a lot more and losing some is part of the game.

I for one never slag our players and they are a lot better than most give them credit except sancho. no heart, no pride no desire.

30 Oct 2025 07:30:32
We needed more goals and I think we are amongst the top scores in the league now, the difference is we’re have also conceded 14 goals and only have one clean sheet.

If we can tighten up at the back and stop making silly mistakes, then it should be a decent season.

28 Oct 2025 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Thestigno1 has posted a new article entitled, Can Hearts End The Old Firm Dominance?

27 Oct 2025 15:28:21
A lot more work and tracking back in our last 2 games, even the front players especially Cunha and Mbeumo which is helping to reduce the space in midfield when we don't have the ball. You really need all players working and understanding where to be in and out of possession for RAs system to work.

27 Oct 2025 17:30:03
I think you need all players working and understanding where to be in and out of possession for any system to be successful.
Maybe the players are working harder, more focused, listening, have more intensity, being more aggressive and fighting for positions more because Ratcliffe has given more time to RA?
Lessens the complacency of players just waiting for a manager/ coach change and quietens down the blood thirsty media and pundits.

27 Oct 2025 19:57:27
Spot on supasub. That's exactly what was different this time, no easy way out and the disgruntled players silenced and told perform during the African Nations.

Once again they struggled when handed a chance and nearly blew the game. They either step up or they're done at United but they're exposed as being unable or unwilling to stick to the plan.

28 Oct 2025 11:49:10
Ratcliff backing Ruben so strongly has set a precedent I think we did kinda all laugh and say what was he doing but on reflection it's a positive.
Many players have for united for so long downed tools knowing that the manager will be gone before them not anymore I think rasmus going was a sign too that nobodys safe.

28 Oct 2025 12:35:19
Agreed mate. Perform or be gone and show the right attitude as well. No matter how good you are you're expected to work for the team.

28 Oct 2025 16:43:00
What else was SJR going to say, but more fool you if you think for 1 minute he meant it, if things had not started to turn he would be gone if things take a bad turn for worse again he will be gone, SJR saying that means absolutely nothing, results are what keeps him here. end off hopefully they continue but don’t for 1 minute think SJR was not talking with fork tongue

Mainoo very poor Baleba is also very poor and many on here wanted them as our two midfielders! LOL.

29 Oct 2025 16:52:57
It does mean something ~Maze~ Notimesoon. Too often at this club the players have been given an easy run of it by blaming and changing the manager. However I do think it's less likely in general with this group. Even in bad games I think the character of the players has been good.

We have recruited so well both last summer and this. Not every player will be a hit but profiling well makes such a difference. De Ligt, Mazraoui, Yoro, Cunha, Mbeumo, Lammens, Sesko. We do need a couple more starter level players but the quality and resiliency of those we have is great.

I'll also say that for those that were criticising others that spoke about the underlying metrics being impressive and pleading for patience because those are better predictors of long term results than a handful of results, I do hope this upturn demonstrates the arguments made. We'll probably have a poor run of results again but as long as the general trends are good RA deserves our backing.

30 Oct 2025 07:38:02
Winning against the Brighton’s of this world will define our season, this is where we have struggled.

Forest, Spurs, Everton, Palace, West Ham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Villa, Newcastle and then back to Wolves are our fixtures till Christmas.

Most of these teams have not had great starts and on paper we should beat them, but as someone sensibly said once, football is played on grass not paper, but these are all winnable games.

27 Oct 2025 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - PatrikBurgher has posted a new article entitled, Slot Has Failed Tactically With Liverpool In The Premier League

27 Oct 2025 14:56:13
The loss of Jota has been an emotional drain on the squad. Liverpool have lost both left backs, their first choice goalie, while DVD is clearly not quite the payer he once was, so not only do they have a new front line with a misfiring Salah, but also an un-cohesive defense. for the time being at least. As far as tactics are concerned Slot has admitted they were unprepared for a shift away from playing out of defense towards the long ball, as did United. From our perspective on this page one can only say about time. Watching us get stuck in our own half, losing possession early as teams anticipated our insistence on playing short and boxing us in was a stress inducing nightmare.

The 5-0 start always looked a bit fortunate and perhaps created a false sense of invincibility. Now the facade has cracked and the manager will have to prove his worth. It's too early to say whether the team will recover from what has become a massive rebuild from the squad Slot was fortunate to have inherited from Klopp. On paper Liverpool still has a forward line and midfield to envy. They may well not win the league this time around but they have other 3 competitions - unlike us - where they have a chance to win silverware.

27 Oct 2025 15:05:59
To be fair I think most sides would struggle with Dick Van Dyke in the heart of their defence.

27 Oct 2025 15:19:49
He's only 99 spenno, reckon him and David Attenborough, also 99, could see this season out as a top pairing of centre backs.

27 Oct 2025 19:59:05
And the joint winners of banter of the week go to. ?.

27 Oct 2025 20:44:13
You're welcome.

26 Oct 2025 17:38:10
Over the years, I've been pretty harsh on Casemiro, Maguire and Maguire, even Mount. Have to say, they have all stepped up this year (even slabhead stepped up at times last year) . I still maintain they shouldn't be part of the the future plans, and extensions of contracts would come back to bite us. But whilst they are performing on a regular basis and doing what is necessary each week, I'll get behind them.

This summer will be a very pivotal window for us. Midfield, wingbacks and centre backs all need a lift in quality, either due to impending departures or lack of quality.

26 Oct 2025 17:02:32
Anyone know a source for getting hold of the red white and black Adidas 'heritage' pullover hoodie that Amorim was wearing last season. It seems to be sold out everywhere. Trying to cheer up a friend who is having a bit of a rough time.

Even interested in places that do 'custom recreations' - feel like such a reddit site was mentioned a while ago but can't find the post. Thanks in advance.

26 Oct 2025 18:13:52
By using google to search for exactly what you asked, it threw up lots of results that appear to be in stock from £50 upwards. You will have to do some due diligence on the websites but hope you find what you are looking for from a legitimate source. Good luck ?.

27 Oct 2025 09:15:41
Thanks monkey. My Google searches not showing the exact one I'm looking for but think it did help to use a VPN (I'm in Canada) . Did find one on ebay though. Thanks again.

26 Oct 2025 14:52:48
The much maligned Luke Shaw created two goals yesterday with his midfield challenges. Brighton claimed a foul on the second. Looking at the replay, there was a slight grab but the player undoubtedly dived. Both he and the other "always injured" and much maligned Mason Mount (nice alliteration) have shown what good players they are this year.

For the second week in a row the set up has been well tailored to suit the opposition. Yes, there was that worrying 10 minutes or so when they brought it back to 3-2 but rather than sit back, increasing the risk of conceding a 3rd, we just went out and scored again. like United of old!

Things are clearly beginning to gel. We have players who can not only score goals but can find space and key passes. Proper talented footballers. The departures may be prospering elsewhere but that is of no importance. We needed to sweep away the negativity and it looks like that's been done.

I do wish we could have kept McTominay who is a far better player than Zirkzee. The latter needs to move on and hopefully that will happen this January notwithstanding losing some payers to AFCON. Presumably Dorgu will cover for Amad ( a downgrade), but no one can replace Mbuemo, even if we have Mount to bring in. Unfortunately it's hard to imagine us signing a top defensive midfielder until the summer when I imagine efforts will be made to move Ugarte on.

Our big problem last year was scoring goals. I predicted and am still expecting that we'll score 60+ this year. With the light schedule players should remain energetic and focused. I'm very hopeful for Champions League qualification. The next 6 games, 5 of which are against lower opposition, could be pivotal.

It's been fun watching United again. Long may it last.

27 Oct 2025 14:17:20
Amazing how zirkzee has got worse by not playing. Going out of the league cup this year and not having Europe has severely hampered our fringe players. They get no chance to show what they can do, and cannot maintain match sharpness. We have to have a deep run in the FA cup for this reason, or our squad will get very unhappy very quickly.

28 Oct 2025 05:14:06
All players get worse by not playing. They’re not match fit, and not acclimatised to the pace of the game and lose their touch.

28 Oct 2025 12:37:18
I have respectfully disagree DB. They've made chances and they didn't take them. Hence they're not on the starting teamsheet.

26 Oct 2025 13:20:50
Well what a strange few weeks. A real upturn in our performances alongside the Scousers losing 4 league games in a row. If you get bored on our page, head over to the Liverpool page for gnashing of teeth.

Mbuemo and Cunha look naturals and Lammens has made a big difference already, for once our signings seem to be improving us. We swapped out Antony, Garnacho, Sancho, and Rashford for Cunha and Mbuemo, no brainer.

However, a big thing for me is character. We conceded an equaliser last week but then went and scored a winner. Yesterday, we lost 2 goals but again, went down the other end and put the game to bed, last season I doubt we would have won either of those games.

I suspect we will still be 5th after today's games which is a major improvement, 2 interesting away games coming up too to gauge progress.

Hats off to RA. Sunderland are flying but we dealt with them, Anfield is never an easy place to go, and Brighton have been a bogey team for a few years.

As for all the 'I told you so people', fair play to the Manager who has got the team playing, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. We sit in a great position, and if we qualify for the ECL I will be the first to applaud and admit I was wrong, but we have had false dawns before, let's hope this time we've finally turned the corner.

27 Oct 2025 14:23:36
Epl is very competitive this year. Arsenal look like a super team, if they had a top performing striker they would be complete. Everyone else is capable of beating everyone else on any given match day. Very little difference between bottom half and top 4. This is good if you are winning, and not so much if you lose 2 on the bounce. Come Christmas we will have a better idea of the teams that will be in the european spots.

We have seen teams start fast like Sunderland and then fade away as the season progresses.

I just like Anotims messaging after wins. Level headed. More work to do. Next game is all that matters. Hopefully we benefit from 1 game a week for the players in the first team, fewer injuries, better tactical planning for each game etc etc.

28 Oct 2025 05:16:14
I was one who said Amorim had no chance. I just couldn’t aee a way back from him, even if I really like him and wanted him to succeed.

He’s shown tremendous belief and strength of character way beyond many of us to dig in and start making things work.

I’m delighted to be proven wrong. And here’s to him and the tea continuing to do so.

28 Oct 2025 08:01:32
I was wrong too and think the gaffer needs time and a few more players. I think he is a keeper. Needs to do better with his substitutions and managing things late in the game.