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16 Aug 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 16th August 2019

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16 Aug 2019 10:51:51
What's with the emjois please tell me they've not actually added them to FM?

{Ed001's Note - no Griezmann added them when he posted the pic on his social media.}

16 Aug 2019 12:44:12
Thank god for that. I thought then they were going for the candy crush market.

{Ed001's Note - it is heading that way.}

16 Aug 2019 16:21:46
I did get nostalgic the other day for the 1993-94 version.

15 Aug 2019 20:00:31
I know Sanchez hasn't performed and is a bit of a loner, but he does try on the pitch and gives his all. He just needs to get some confidence back and could be a positive. We have him with us and he is not going anywhere, so we need to hope he works with this new system it may just click!

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15 Aug 2019 20:42:48
Mate, you make GDS look like a pessimist. How anyone thinks Sanchez will suddenly turn up is beyond me. He has been absolute plants and it is clear he is not wanted, I’d be amazed if he gets a game.

15 Aug 2019 21:36:16
You could apply that logic to Jones and Young!

15 Aug 2019 22:24:05
I don't think so Wazza. Young will play in the Cups and Jones may get a game in the cups depending on Smalling's fitness.

I can't see sanchez getting a game though. James would be fist choice Left, Chong right. greenwood striker. and both mata and Gomes at 10.

I can see him getting frozen out, unless he suddenly starts producing magic in training.

15 Aug 2019 23:24:51
There's definitely a player in Sanchez, it just hasn't worked out at United, time to let him move on.

16 Aug 2019 05:55:29
When it comes to Sanchez i agree with Ed001 assessment he made earlier of him playing out the whole year and not resting his body at all is having effects on him. It does take a toll eventually.

{Ed001's Note - the real question, imo, is whether a good rest could see him get it back or whether he has just run himself into the ground and is finished.}

16 Aug 2019 07:10:02
I doubt a good rest will help him much to be honest. He has been with us for 18 months now. And the most football he has played has been with Chile. Not even on the bench most weeks.

Unless he has a Carlos Tevez back to his home country for 6 months off I can see how he can have much more rest.

16 Aug 2019 10:57:11
We were doing pretty well up59 the point we signed Sanchez, his arrival saw Martial and Rashford lose some form. No matter how badly he played he kept getting picked, and his salary must have caused unrest the dressing room. I think it’s one of the worst signings we have ever made.

16 Aug 2019 11:09:13
I'm with you AJH on this one.
I thought that sancez would turn out to be a star player under ole at the very beginning. But he has been abysmal. He just is not the right type of character. I think he will do a lot better elsewhere. He is miserable and it shows in every aspect of his game. He is a loner.
I accept the club gave him a contract and they imo just have to cut their losses try to agree some sort of pay off and give him a free transfer.
We are into him for over 60m i think so assuming he can get a contract and signing fee for 25m elswhere he will have his hand out for anywhere between 20 and 40m id imagine.
Otherwise we get left supplementing this wage for the next 3 year's at about 300k a week.
No matter how you look at it it was the worst transfer in our history in every single way.
I just hope greenwood gets to clobber him one more time before he goes😂
He goes down with the likes of falcao bastian di maria and veron as players that have been completely underwhelming.
Bebe kleberson prunier djemba, were a cheaper way to lose a mini fortune.
For those that can remember birtles davenport alan brazil graham hogg were the budget way to lose what was then a fortune😂.

16 Aug 2019 12:36:55
We should be fine to keep paying his wages Ken, now that Moyes' wages are off the books 👍.

16 Aug 2019 14:05:34
We might be still paying Jose's wages though 😂.

16 Aug 2019 16:23:03
Or LVG's lol 😁.

15 Aug 2019 12:19:31
Still on a high from Sunday. What an exciting and youthful team we have. I know it’s early days, but it is clear that there is some very good talent in the squad. We are a few players short, in midfield and on the right wing, but it’s nice to see a stronger defence than in previous years.

I just wanted to touch on something quickly. I see that there seems to be an issue with criticising shaw at the minute. There seems to be a a lack of distinction between constructive criticism or being called a toxic.

My view is that shaw is not good enough. The fact he was player of the year last year is irrelevant imo. The standard was shockingly low as we know. I think he needs to improve both in his positioning defensively as well as a his end product. I don’t see how it is an issue to state that he is a weak link or to point out his deficiencies as long as it’s done in a constructive manner. Of course if I was calling him derogatory names or calling him fat then I understand.

My point is some fans take the moral high ground with shaw but have no issues getting personal with Sanchez, matic or smalling/ Jones. We cannot pick and choose who gets preferential treatment and who does not.

In life there is always room for improvement. Even when you are on top, you cannot stay still. It’s so important to keep on moving to the next level. I was chuffed with the result on Sunday but I don’t think the performance as a whole was an amazing 4-0 performance. I feel like if you portray a negative view, you are automatically called toxic. I’m sorry if this is nonsense it’s just something that has come to my attention.

I’m very excited for Monday but also believe it is a much more difficult test than Chelsea. It will be interesting to see how we do when teams sit back and soak up pressure.

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15 Aug 2019 12:54:51
Shaw is our new Pogba for this year.

15 Aug 2019 13:08:20
Singh,

What does that even mean? You read that post and decided to post that? Park explained why that isn't the case, it is a totally different situation to Pogba. Pogba has all the talent in the world but seems incapable of using it consistently. I am not sure Shaw has all that much talent.

We are ok at the moment and the back 4 looks good but to improve it the first port of call would be an upgrade on Shaw, people can say that without being shot down.

It is still not as pressing an issue as the midfield but if we are to start to challenge domestically and in Europe myself and many others it seems don't think Shaw is good enough to be our long term left back.

I hope he proves us wrong.

15 Aug 2019 13:11:14
The moment martial or linders have a bad game it will be back round to them .
So much to talk about in regards to sunday, but it always seems to be the negatives with some .
1 game into the season and people want to sell a player
Shaw imo and many others was our best player last season but hey he wasnt amazing against chelsea .

15 Aug 2019 13:27:11
GDS - It is nothing personal against Park or any other poster but i think Shaw will be our new Pogba this year as a player under scrutinty and under discussion for most of the year.

It is just the way it is in terms of of how fans how actually are.

Shaw may turn out to be very good or may flop but let's get behind the chap for now and see how he develops.

Like you said there are other pressing areas that needs attention before focusing on LB.

15 Aug 2019 13:39:09
Its ok to critisise a player.
For once i was on shaws side this time but its ok to be critical i don't see the issue. If someone has a bad game its ok to say so.
It was the same jred when ibra was here there were some who just wanted him out from the moment he arrived yet he was our best player that season in many people's opinions.
Get over what others write lads its just 1 of a 7bn populations opinion.
If it irks you either ignore it or make a counter debate.
Everybody on here has double standards. Jred you critisised ibra at every turn. You wanted our last 2 managers fired so your living in a glass house throwing stones. Just accept that not everyone thinks the same as you and the world should be thankful for that.
If we all thought the same it would be a little dull.

15 Aug 2019 14:00:24
My comments about Shaw are the same as the ones I made about him last season.

He wanders off when he should be marking his man. He ball watches and gets dragged out of position. At times you can see cutting in front of the CB leaving space behind him.

This isn't based on one game, it's based on his career so far.

He can be brilliant when he attacks. I'm nit disputing that. He is into his 7th season as a professional footballer. Basic defending should need working on.

15 Aug 2019 14:18:29
Mh you are welcome to that opinion😂.

15 Aug 2019 14:26:36
Ken
Ibra is a good player but was a short term solution and was never going to be anything other than that and that's how it turned out .
Last season was yet another 3rd season jose melt down it was obvious it was coming, no surprise all the signs where there .
As I always say only time will tell, let's see how things turn out with shaw many wanted him sold last summer and he ended up being our best player .
I actually like a back 5 of wan maguire lin shaw and DDG, so let's see how it turns out .
Truth is if you look at chances created chelsea got just as much joy down our right as they did our left . Wan was caught out of position several times yet from all accounts he was amazing.
Truth is you defend as a team, and as a team we where wide open all over the pitch for various reasons . Both full backs where isolated and doubled up on as where our 2 cm at times .
I also think we almost gave chelsea the wings, both full backs tucked in a lot possible confident that

chelsea are more dangerous cutting through the middle of you as opposed to scoring of crosses.
Like to play clever passes in and around the box as opposed to working it out wide and lobbing in balls for abraham, especially against Maguire.
Buy inviting chelsea to push on in to the spaces left it in turn left space for our attackers .

Imo a lot to talk about on sunday, once over it would of been a topic of discussion now it's just sell x buy y, on a game to game basis.

I'm not criticising that, people use the site for different reasons I'm just pointing it out .
Only time will tell but once shaw finds his form the same people will just move on to next, with very little explanation to back up there opinion .
Maybe I'm wrong, only time will tell.

15 Aug 2019 14:31:52
Well said Ken.

15 Aug 2019 14:45:24
Jred you know I’ve been a poster on this site for a very long time so you know what sort of poster I am. I always try to give a balanced view and always draw on both the positives and negatives. If anything, I’ve perhaps been too positive on my outlook. I’m any decent assessment, you have to take into account both sides of the story otherwise you are in danger of being blinkered by rose tinted glasses.

In previous posts, I have highlighted how well we did, but it’s foolish to get too excited over one game. We’ve been here before where we’ve gone on a run and we think we are back. It’s not that simple. I hope I’m proven wrong by shaw. Up until last season I was very high on him. I thought he’d be top draw and unfortunately I don’t believe that anymore for the reasons I have stated. I’m more than happy to be proven wrong and I want nothing more than to hold my hands up and admit I’m wrong. But I just cannot see it.

Unconsciously we all have our favourites or a certain view on a player which we cannot shake. And that’s what makes this site so brilliant. A cauldron of differing views makes this place all the more exciting. Yes some posters are more negative than others, but we should all be allowed to express our voice and opinion. Just because shaw was player of the year, does not mean he is exempt from criticism, nor does it mean he’s at the required level.

15 Aug 2019 14:58:43
Park
It means he had a good season last year even if as you say above, you think that's irrelevant, especially if like you say you want to give a balanced view and draw on both the positives and negatives.
I agree that people have a certain view of players that they just can't shake .

I try to look at it as a team sport as opposed to an individual I also think we are one game in to a season.
But a lot of of defensive issue where imo down to the team as opposed to individuals .
I think chelsea got behind both full backs for example but people seem to ignore that.

15 Aug 2019 15:11:43
I think Shaw isn't as bad as some think.

Recovering from an injury like he had, no matter how long ago it was, will have consequences for his thought processes and also his confidence.

He is by no means the best in that position, but players have off days, all players.

After one game this season, playing a different style is simply not enough to judge him on, especially as we have 2 new members of the defence.

Also, on Sunday, in the first half, Rashford was not helping in his defensive duties.

I will reserve judgement after a few more games and all players have become accustomed to the new style of play.

15 Aug 2019 15:23:00
Jred i understand your point of view and that you tend to look at things collectively instead of individually which is often a good and orudent way of analyising some situations. To counter that it may often be a mistake by an individual that makes the collective look bad.

My point is you like all other posters have your favourites and others that irk you more than most. So no different.
I agree its too early to judge anybody 1 game in. I have refrained from doing so. I saw no real negatives on sunday other than we started slowly.
All players start with a clean sheet.
In my book martial Pogba and shaw are 3 players in particular that can ill afford to drop their effort levels from last sunday and fall into the habits of last season where they just didn't try on several occasions.
Shaw was voted poy due to his massively increased contribution he needs to maintain that. He is prone to periods of indifference and poor fitness.
If all 3 try as they did on Sunday every week their talent should dictate that they do well.

15 Aug 2019 16:06:35
Ken
No one has said any different.
I think shaw is getting it this week it will be someone else next week .

First game of the season 4.0 win and main topic of convo is sell shaw .
Not really sure what your point is .
Lot to talk about imo but them days on the site seem to of gone .
I think people will move on to some one else next week prob linders pogba or martial . Maybe they wont.

15 Aug 2019 16:21:28
Jred i don't think the main topic of conversation on the site has been sell shaw since sunday. Its been on a few threads or the odd isolated post. In fact look back and tell me how many posters have said sell shaw since sunday.
Its a topic that irks you. So you are super sensitive about it.
Seriously check and see how many posters said sell shaw since sunday and then you will realise its less than 6 people. Hardly a landslide or main topic of conversation. That is shappy like hyberbole😂😂😂.

15 Aug 2019 16:29:30
Ken
No it doesn't irk me
read down the page shaw has been one of the main convos, infact the OP by park addresses the fact that shaw has been a previous issue on the site since the chelsea match.

Dont really know what your point is other than looking for an argument .
I think people will move on to someone else next week .
But like tris on the discussion page this convo is over imo.

15 Aug 2019 16:29:47
Was he really our best player last season? I'd have had Lindelof infront of him personally.

He needs to find consistency and iron out the little errors in his game. And keep an eye on his weight and fitness.

I don't think he will reach the heights originally predicted for him but he can become a mainstay of the defence for the next few years.

15 Aug 2019 17:14:45
Mort,

I would have had Lindelof ahead of Shaw aswell.

I've also said I wouldn't sell him. My judgement this been based on the time ar the club, not one game.

15 Aug 2019 20:47:40
He gives his all, he has never whined, he hasn’t sought to leave, despite being called out continually by Jose. He was one of the brightest English prospects and then he broke his leg really badly. I think we give the kid a break, he didn’t let us down last year and in some games really looked the part.

What I don’t understand is ‘we won 4-0 but’, I really don’t see why we can’t just enjoy the big win instead of having to find a player to criticise. I can’t remember who the poster was but a couple of years ago someone reviewed every game and irrespective of the result listed who he thought the worst player was. I called him out as I didn’t understand why we needed to find fault after a big win, it’s completely unnecessary. Did Shaw give away a penalty, did he get sent off, did he cause a goal to be scored? No, no, no. Baffling.

15 Aug 2019 21:51:22
Think its been done to death.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and trashing.

He's a player that needs a run of games to get into form. He's had a bad injury but he's recovered. He doesn't help himself with fitness.

I feel its a make or break season for him. He knuckles down and improves what's been raised as constructive criticism he can be an asset. Also saves us money which can go on the big midfield rebuild.

16 Aug 2019 00:28:21
Not based on one game, but personally I've said for a long time that his positioning is suspect. And if he hasn't learned that after 7 yrs, then i doubt he'll improve now. He's no longer a kid.
Lvg, Mourinho and hodgson all didn't rate him and were critical of him. And he is not in the top 3 England left backs.
He is ok for now as midfield is the priority, but we need to look at competition for him next season.

16 Aug 2019 05:50:16
Shaw will progress as the season continues.
Last year was the first time he got consistent run of games in A United shirt.

16 Aug 2019 07:18:52
TRD,

Let’s hope so, I think everybody wants that from him. Not sure anybody is really saying we should sell Shaw, I’d be happy to have him in the first team squad fighting it out with someone who is better or has the potential to be better than him. At the moment he is our only left footed left back and he has had issues throughout his career with his weight and also with a clear lack of positioning defensively.

As I said earlier it’s not a priority as we have other positions with glaring holes but I think there is a place for a top left back that can fight it out for a place with Shaw and either replace him as first choice or push Shaw to be better. This isn’t based on one game and I’m always positive about things, it’s just quite an obvious point to make.

16 Aug 2019 16:34:27
Tierney would have been ideal, and i still think Danny Rose is more aware and athletic than Shaw.

15 Aug 2019 11:24:02
Hi ED's, Sir Alex is listed as one of the directors of the club, so what are his exact roles and responsibilities towards the club in that role?

{Ed002's Note - It is of no consequence whatsoever.}

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16 Aug 2019 07:20:11
Becks,

According to certain members of the press he tells Ole what to do at all times, including which players to buy (anybody Scottish) and who to select in the team, what tactics we play and what type of oranges they eat at half time.

16 Aug 2019 09:14:21
He's a calming influence on Ole, and is always there if Ole needs some advice, it would be daft if Ole didn't bend the ear of a man with that experience from time to time.

15 Aug 2019 10:30:22
First chance to post since sunday. Well, wasnt expecting that result and we rode our luck at times but 4-0 over a top 4 rival is not to be sniffed at.
Harry Maguire - looks like he's been with us 10 years, I for one was sceltical but he looks so composed and a great presence about him, he has settled well.
AWB - is going to be excellent for us, a top right back and I've no doubts over him at all.
A special mention to Lindelof who also played very well, I've always rated him and I think a settled back line will help him no end.
Luke Shaw - I see s lot of criticism about him on here, no idea where that has come from, he will also benefit from a settled back line.
McTominay- great to see how vocal he is, he epitomises what a united player should be in terms of work rate and passion, he is very underrated too.
Pogba - thought he was quiet mostly but shows what class he does have with that pass, if only he can produce this more often and take games by the scruff, not ideal his future is still hanging over us.
Pereira- nice delivery of a ball, I am unsure if he is at the level we need but again puts a shift in.
Martial and Rashford- these 2 can cause any team issues on the counter attack, we can be lethal in transition like Jose said, I do worry tho against teams that sit deep how we will break them down, this is why it made sense to replace Lukaku with an option B which I don't feel we have. Rash and Martial movement tho was and will be a problem for a lot of teams.
Lingard - movement again seems to be why he is in favour, personally would prefer to see Dan James in the front 3 whose pace will wreak havoc, happy for James goal, his reaction again shows what it should mean to play for united.

Overall we was clinical which is what we have been missing, these younger players are getting that bit older and more composed. Very impressive win but let's not get Carried away, Wolves beat us twice, be interesting to see if Ole has learned from that and can adapt to teams who allow us possession because we seem to be that team who gives up possession and breaks from deep at pace, do we have a plan b.

A side note, unless I've missed it, has DDG agreed and signed his new deal yet? I notice he was captain and imagine he is our captain going forward, deserving imo.

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15 Aug 2019 11:58:53
No WRD he has not signed yet, retorts its was imminent and agreed but as i say to my team. God may be good but get it in writing😂.

15 Aug 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th August 2019

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14 Aug 2019 21:17:26
Kante would transform our team. Exactly what we are missing. Would nit together our defence and attack. I'd pay all of the transfer dough on him next summer. Fred plus £50m haha.

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14 Aug 2019 22:38:29
Love him Sydney. He is the best CM in the premier league by far. Top 3 in the world. He would turn us into definite top 4. He is that good. Does the work of two. I say we give chelsea pogba and take kante 😊.

14 Aug 2019 22:38:36
Sounds like a good deal. Then Chelsea can have Fred the Blue.

14 Aug 2019 23:58:37
Great player, and I thought the ref tonight was very good.

15 Aug 2019 00:09:25
Best in the world at what he does. There is no team anywhere in the world that would not be improved with kante in it.

Awesome player. Very poor time keeper by all accounts and statistically one of the worst trainer's at chelsea In nearly every stat with the highest absenteeism at the club to boot. Not an easy lad to manage personally and only comes alive when the whistle blows apparently.
Fifth season In a row he has not done pre season training its quite amazing what works for some players it really is.

{Ed018's Note - forget all these ridiculous offers. Chelsea won’t be selling Kanté to United while he’s in his prime}

15 Aug 2019 01:36:39
What a wee player he is. Watching the game with my young lad, and he said, how much would you pay for him, dad? Not enough money.

15 Aug 2019 06:17:54
just top 3 angelred? I can only think of one other CM in the world who is in the same league (class) to Kante which is Saul. For me hands down Top 2 CM in the world. So who is your top 3 angel?
Even when not fully fit Kante had a positive impact in the game against us I think. Having said that it might just be biasness from me.

15 Aug 2019 08:19:06
What ever happened to Veratti? People were saying he’s the best CM in the world less than 18 months ago and now he barely gets a mention.

15 Aug 2019 08:36:15
Scouse look open at the back again and really lack a bit of imagination in cm.

15 Aug 2019 09:38:41
I like veratti wazza. But he is not really performing at psg wanted out but can't get his preferred move. Unhappy players early flourish at any club mate.

15 Aug 2019 16:11:13
Unhealthy lifestyle is what happened to Verrati Wazza. That and Isco in a game against Spain. Verrati is well known to be a heavy smoker and has been caught drink-driving a few times and suffers a lot of niggling injuries.

14 Aug 2019 21:01:40
Does anyone else think liverpool have made a mistake in not strengthening.

Feel like there defence can be got at now for some reason, it's only a few games in so maybe its just a blip.

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14 Aug 2019 21:26:39
Quick players like Kante cause VvD issues. Robertson's pace often saves VvD from embarrassment. He's a great CB don't get me wrong, but very surprised teams don't take advantage of his lack of pace. Last season teams gave Liverpool a lot of respect, but we have seen what can happen when teams get at them. Norwich opened them up several times, City too although expected, Chelsea have had a good 3-4 good chances. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come and teams will be putting Liverpool under pressure. We will see.

14 Aug 2019 21:46:56
Sideways a mistake not to strengthen while on top. And they were not even top. Madrid suffered Barcelona suffered. Players need pressure players need competition. Players get complacent. Supporters get arrogant.

14 Aug 2019 22:11:17
Hmm, Champion’s League winners didn’t strengthen, they’re bound to struggle. Liverpool spent very big last year which means they have no cash this year. They have a very good team, it remains to be seen whether United or anyone else can close the gap.

{Ed047's Note - Wow did I really read VVD doesn’t have pace, guess he hasn’t seen VVD burn half the length of a pitch and make a saving tackle, I recall one against Willian, whose no slouch, this whole thread is just totally wow.

14 Aug 2019 22:35:52
VVD has made a huge difference but it did burn the budget meaning money is tight this year. I thought he was an OK CB but he really stepped up. I think Liverpool are so far ahead that they will probably get away with it this year.

14 Aug 2019 22:37:09
Champions league final when he showed immense recovery pace to tackle son heung min, vvd has plenty of pace, just doesn't need to use it half the time as he's playing in second gear.

14 Aug 2019 22:40:12
Always judge a team. at. the end of a season.

14 Aug 2019 23:59:31
The only thing I could see here is the Liverpool team don't look 100% fit, but I'd say they will be bang at it when they get going.

14 Aug 2019 23:24:23
Sure, when he's into his stride, I mean over short distances. His positional sense and timing is top class, but speed over short distance isn't great, like most his size. Maguire being another.

14 Aug 2019 23:47:40
Ed047 why is the whole thread 'wow'?
I think the ideal time to improve any team is when you are at the top. As soon as a squad stagnates even if successful it is on the slide then whole sake changes are required at once. Juve have done it best recently won the league 8 years in a row 3 cl finals numerous cups new stadia yet they add at least 1 or 2 first team starters every summer.
Nobody is complacent. The coach the players the fans nobody.
Fans favourites are moved out if its the right decision for the club.
City have added one every year.
Liverpool are not perfect. I think they missed an opportunity to add to a great squad with a top class talent who can push for a place or a top class cb. Its best practise imo.

{Ed047's Note - because Ken a poster two games in is saying that Liverpool can be got at as though they have suddenly become less of a team. Every defence can be got at because no one is perfect.

But like most teams they are not up and running, Trent, Gomez, VVD and
Robertson are for me the best back 4 in the league by some way and you have to remember Gomez is still on his way back.

As for the VVD comment saving him from embarrassment was the daftest thing ever as firstly Gomez plays on the right side and is the speed machine and could any actually point out exactly when he was embarrassed.

I don’t get the argument that they have no money either, Coutinho sale equalled Allison and VVD. They’ve been to two Champions League finals and finished runners up, how would they be skint.

Whilst I agree you should never stand still it has to be difficult to get the exact type of player you want at that moment and whilst you are happy that you have Chong, Greenwood, Gomes and Garner in your squad, have you not seen the talented youth in the Liverpool set up. They have two excellent looking full backs as well as young Brewster and others.

That’s why I said wow mate.

15 Aug 2019 06:52:23
Red tinted glasses i suspect ed.
I think you should expect united supporters not to see anything good in Liverpool. Football supporters are bias and don't often talk factually about their major position. Ergo you shouldn't be surorised😂
Gomez in best back 4 in the league? How many games has he actually played as a cb for Liverpool? So your hoping he will fulfill his obvious potential. he want even in your back 4 most of last year. You want him to replace matip but matip has looked better all pre season and you have won nothing with gomez In the team and you did win a cup with matip in and got to a cup final the previous year.
End of season will tell if Liverpool improve get more points than last year and win more than the cl. If they don't they disimproved.
I don't thin k they will only lose 1 game this season i don't think they will win the cl. If they don't they wills be factually on the declinewill have disimproved yoy. So as you say wait till end of season and then we can look at the results without bias as it will be factual.

{Ed047's Note - Ken I’m not a Liverpool supporter mate and if you watched Gomez prior to his leg break he was immense, nothing got through him and his time out was a big loss for them.

I honestly don’t see them being weaker simply because the haven’t smashed the transfer window I just see them as being every bit as good.

They seem to have that spirit with Klopp that you guys did in your pomp with Fergie.

We are all playing catch up to Spurs to start with before we think of City and Liverpool.

And no I’m not surprised mate 😂

15 Aug 2019 07:17:52
I think you are a gooner but your looking at it like a Liverpool supporter imo.
Milner unreal last year will not play to those standards again imo.
Gomez has played only a handful of games and mostly at rb no guarantee he will come back as strong.
They will not surpass last season's point total so will be worse.

Not playing catch up with anybody. New season we all start from zero. Last season counts for nothing.

I suspect city will win again i see Liverpool betting worth the rest of the pack. Its just my biased opinion of course mate😂.

{Ed047's Note - 😂 I’m looking at it from the outside mate and if they won the league with 92pts and lost 3 games would that make them worse?

And yes you are playing catch up mate, you can’t hide from that one.

Ken I love footy mate and in my time I’ve cheered on every English club playing in Europe including United.

I love watching great football no matter who the team, I don’t get bent out of shape about Spurs, I love their new Stadium and they have some great players.

So in every sense I see City, Liverpool and not so much Spurs ahead of the rest and we really are playing catch up. You might not like it much but it’s true. 🤷‍♂️

You’re heading in the right direction for sure and I love AWB, not quite a man crush but would have loved him at the Arsenal.

15 Aug 2019 09:21:30
047 of course the will improve if they win the league which i said but i don't think they will.
Season is on. They are now playing catch up. I suspect they will be ahead soon all the same😂. Last year is gone nothing tells me Liverpool are on course for a period of wining multiple major trophies.
If they doo ill be first I to congratulate them like i was last year. I don't concede anything until its won. I don't like Liverpool fc and if i had my way they would be 2nd In every competition every year.
Nothing better than liverpool nearly winning and then falling at the final hurdle. 😂😂
When or if they win is the time to throw plaudits around not because they have the potential to do so imo.

15 Aug 2019 09:28:47
It will take a while to get back competing at the top table ed047. Baby steps. I think we will compete a lot better this season. KT will be as good for you as awb is for us i suspect ed.

{Ed047's Note - I’m hoping so mate and I’m sure you will and certainly hope we are.

Big year for both Emery and OGS.

15 Aug 2019 10:12:04
Cheers mate. Have a great day ed047 and good to see you on these pages. Yourself and ed025 are great on here and always contribute and your opinions are well worth reading.

{Ed047's Note - thanks mate and you.

14 Aug 2019 20:32:17
Eds, random question purely out of my own curiosity.

It's a lot slower on here since the transfer window closed, which is to be expected. But it seems a bigger dip than I can remember in 8 or so years visiting this site.

Have posts dried up or are the Eds taking a rest after the hectic transfer window? Is it relative as in the site is a lot busier now than ever before so the dip will be more noticeable?

Before you say it, I know I need to spend less time on here! 😂.

{Ed002's Note - The posts are not being deleted so it is what it is.}

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14 Aug 2019 21:51:57
I wasn’t getting at that Ed, just asking if it’s genuinely this quiet as the difference is night and day 👍🏼.

14 Aug 2019 22:36:53
The window is closed Wazza, it will be busy around game days, and quiet when there is no game,

14 Aug 2019 22:38:13
Wait till we lose a game wazza, the page will be flooded with negativity lol, enjoy the brief period of positivity on the page for once.

15 Aug 2019 00:09:52
DSG,

I was going to say the same, it’s always quiet on here for a week after a win when nobody is overreacting and wants all the players sold.

15 Aug 2019 06:04:55
Some people spend way too much time on here. don't you all have jobs?

{Ed047's Note - it was particularly mental on this page in the window, I’d regularly be editing to find 18 or 20 posts to go up, put them up to find another load to find another load, I’m certain I could have sat all day just doing your page and I wasn’t the only one doing it.

I’m sure I replied to one of you asking if you guys had jobs! 😂

15 Aug 2019 06:42:11
DSG / GDS2 I forgot we won as well so that’s a fair point 😂.

15 Aug 2019 09:41:10
You forgot we won? I've watched motd2 about 30 times just to check it wasn't a dream so no chance of that happening!

16 Aug 2019 06:35:30
lol Ed047 :)

14 Aug 2019 19:16:39
Having let the dust settle, my most enduring memory of the match on Sunday was seeing Sir Alec relaxed, smiling and so obviously enjoying what he was seeing.

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15 Aug 2019 13:01:45
Mine has to be Dan James's reaction to his goal. The pure emotion from not only him but every1 who knows what he went through before signing was so heartwarming.

 


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