Manchester United banter 7

29 Sep 2025
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30 Sep 2025 04:59:41
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30 Sep 2025 05:22:24
Well that’s really close! Some on here still support him but most are changing at last
Most on here said Defence is great, now they are changing too. surprise surprise, it was always going to be a problem with such a slow back 3 and 2 wing backs who are just not good enough
Midfield we knew was a problem, made seriously worse by playing only 2 in there and 1 of them Bruno!
We were always too slow in build up and that’s continued again, Rasmus was not as bad as RA made him look, he is making Cunha, Sesko and Mbuemo look poor, so he good at that
He put Mainoo, now Yoro and Heaven on the naughty step too
Every player digressed under him, not 1 highlight
Is it any wonder we are so poor.
Finally most woke up and smelt the coffee!

30 Sep 2025 08:03:23
It's the system ?.

30 Sep 2025 09:31:43
Based on that form, we should finish the season on 38 points. Just enough to stay up thankfully! Relegation avoided.

I wonder what the RA backers would say after that once he has had 2 transfer windows, a full season and pre-season.

30 Sep 2025 09:56:14
Those stats wouldn’t even keep him in the Burnley job, yet we r supposed to give him even more time….

30 Sep 2025 10:07:05
Dont you know its all apart of the grand master plan.

We have to be really awful for a set period of time and then suddenly we will become really good.

29 Sep 2025 21:50:30
Give Amorim until November 1st. I went very early on Amorim but I don’t see upside in parting ways now.

I’ve given this some thought and I don’t see any benefit to sacking Amorim until at least November 1st.

Main reason would be to save the compensation. Circa £12M.

Secondly to that there’s no club men to step up other than Fletcher and Binnion who are both inexperienced.

Third the club come off looking good, they stuck by their hire, backed them on and off the pitch and was left with no option.

The club should work now on sounding agents of Howe, de Zerbi, Iraola, Xavi, Conte, Hoeness, etc

Get a feel for a shortlist and go for the best available.

Do the behind the scenes work early and see what comes.

I like Amorim, if we play 4 at the back and he adapts against Sunderland I’d be delighted, then get anything at Liverpool I’d be willing to give it more time.

If not I’d sacked him Nov 1st on reflection of the complete 12 months, and hire the next manager the day after.

The club could sack him or stick with him regardless of results. The pragmatist in me says give him time, save the compo and have a plan B ready.

Does anyone see it differently or the same? What am I missing.

30 Sep 2025 04:37:30
You seriously think that they have not already compiled shortlist and not already virtually settled 90% on an incoming…. all clubs have shortlist and feelers out at all times.

30 Sep 2025 06:29:32
Give him to the January transfer window in 2027 to see where we sit.

Players that are not fit to wear the shirt make up more than 50% of our squad. Let that sink in.

30 Sep 2025 09:35:38
He’s had two windows now, Jimbob. He brought in a left back with plenty of energy but a final ball worse than my two-year-old’s, and three forwards who’ve managed just two goals between them in six games.

Let’s not pretend that signing more players for his rubbish system — which we probably won’t be able to do anyway — is going to fix this.

30 Sep 2025 09:58:09
Utd road…it’s pointless contemplating any changes because they simply won’t happen. We will setup the exact same way with different names in those positions, but the result and performance will be similar.

30 Sep 2025 13:04:15
Yet more drivel from toxics, no manager is ever going to get the time to sort out the squad, you're too self absorbed in success and have no patience to take any pain fpr long term gain.

He's had 2 windows? Jesus, he's had 1 summer window.

30 Sep 2025 14:36:33
Capt - Amorim has had time to make an impact, I’d say most fans accept the squad as a whole needs improving but we need to see something on the pitch to know we are going in the right direction. The performances and decisions are Amorim undoing.

I’d have moved him on in the summer but at this point I don’t see any benefit other than another 4 matches and assess it then against best available options. Eg, I am not convinced Xavi would be a good option.

German - I’m sure the club are looking at it the same way as hypothesised.

30 Sep 2025 16:29:10
Captain Obvious, so it's toxic now to want better success from your first-team coach? Because that's what his job title says, not "manager. " The club is responsible for transfers and players. He is expected to coach and improve the players and get the best out of them. He is absolutely failing at that.

If not wanting a coach who can't get the best out of his team makes us toxic, then so be it, but I would bet my house that you have called for managers' heads in the past who have deserved it a lot less.

30 Sep 2025 21:31:53
But Kurtis, the players we have are beyond crap.
Bayindir Dalot Shaw Maguire Casemiro Amad all shouldn't be near the first team.
Then we have players he has inherited Mazraoui MDL Ugarte Bruno etc some of whom are simply filling a hole in the teamsheet.

German - you say players are on the naughty step. they are recovering from injury. but you spin it how you want to.

The toxicity of our fanbase is beyond me.

01 Oct 2025 05:05:55
Oh so Amad who was the new darling and new RWB is now no good either!
Returning from injury, none of them had any long term injury that needed to be played back in, it was just little niggles here and there, no real time out, your just making excuses.

He now been told he got to reintergrate Malacia from the naughty step! RA not happy about that, but why not club pays his wages.

Mainoo on the naughty step too, why else would he not give him a run of games not like our midfield is so good he can’t break in…. its just because RA once said he is battling Bruno for a place and is too stubborn to change on that.

Terrible manager, yes we have poor players in Deligt, McGuire, Shaw, Ugarte even Dorgu is poor, all players that many on here said are fantastic but even these poor players should do and would do better under a proper manager.

01 Oct 2025 11:47:06
Amad has never been my darling, even when he was playing as a 10.
I don't believe he has the attributes and we have way better 10's to keep him out of those positions.
The rest of your reply is nonsense, so I can't be bothered to endure your neverending dribble and formulate a response.

29 Sep 2025 14:37:02
Genuine question here, when Amorim is sacked (seems only a matter of time) should berrada and Wilcox follow him out the door? Both heavily linked to his appointment, both clashed with the now departed ashworth and both are yet to prove they know what they are doing. Do others agree or are u happy with what they have done in their prospective roles?

29 Sep 2025 14:48:48
Well I think when you look at everything else off the pitch, transfers, new training complex, new plans for a stadium, youth development etc, the club is moving in the right direction again, regardless of whether you agree or not with it and with the way it has been done. It's unfortunate though that the main issue is the most important one, the senior team and their performances and results.

I do think the mess of the club internally is far greater than what we all understand because of the Glazer's and Woodward and co so Wilcox and Barrada moving on to IMO would be a bit hasty and unfair.

29 Sep 2025 15:05:08
I really have no idea what either have done. Its very diffucult to know what goes on behind closed doors. From the outside if looks like absolutely nothing has changed.

29 Sep 2025 15:13:28
They have to own the decision, will they walk as a result, unlikely.

On potential Amorim replacements, let’s face it there aren’t many options. Some have mentioned Iraola, but remember Bournemouth struggled with his formations and tactics initially and didn’t win for 10 games.

Glasner seems the obvious target, playing the same formation as Amorim and having a better record over a shorter period, but would he take the job, it is a career killer for everyone at the moment, maybe he is smart enough to say no.

Fabrizio was going on about Xavi, but with no Premier League experience I think that would be a bad choice.

With the run of games coming including Sunderland, Liverpool, Brighton, Forest, Spurs and Everton I’m not optimistic we will get more than 6 points from 6 games, and I expect the board will be forced to make a decision.

29 Sep 2025 15:25:09
Both did a very good job at City. They went with a younger manager who was doing exceptionally well in the Portuguese league. He had SL play some very entertaining football.

Flip the switch and nearly a year later, RA is clearly obstinate. Yet he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants. His fixation on the 3421 formation appears to be his downfall. Some would call it tunnel vision to a certain degree.

Behind the scenes Wilcox and Berrada are slowly transforming the way the club is being run. Years of purely focusing on the club as a business instead of a football club has been detrimental to Utd and a huge part of their demise.

The reality is that Utd have beena mid table team since EtH second season. The FA Cup win masked over a poor season.

Maguire, Shaw, Dalot and Casemeiro, are still playing in the first 11 for Utd and are no where near the level required to be top players in their positions. Rashford regressed and had a poor attitude and clearly stopped trying. Sancho never tried unless it was on Fifa. Onana, Anthony, Hjolund all flopped. All of which was prior to Berrada and Wilcox coming in.

A culmination of buying poor players, letting players leave for free and paying exceptional high wages is down to the previous regime. To reverse this takes time and patience. Mistakes will happen.

The club can't simply click their fingers and be rid of these underperfroming players.

Unfortunately an obstinate manager and players who aren't bright enough will continue in blight our performances. Perhaps a simple formation change woukd change things. RA appears to favour losing his job over a change in formation.

29 Sep 2025 15:44:58
I think they can make a mistake or even two in finding the right person.

I agree it’s a bad look with Ashworth but so long as Amorim gives them no choice they can come out looking clean. Amorim has been given time and backing, which is a good look.

29 Sep 2025 16:04:19
I don’t like Wilcox but don’t think he goes when RA does or Barrada, I think it’s wishful thinking by those that think it’s not going to be run as a business going forward, SJR is more business focused than the Glazers and it’s 2025 football is now a business.

Personally I would go for Xavi or ZZ players have to respect that calibre as will the press plus football would be good at that level not sure it matters about no epl experience then Iraola, not sure Glasner got the personality required…. 100% please no Southgate.

29 Sep 2025 17:08:39
Other than the front 3 this is the same squad as last season

What did anyone expect.

These players can’t be coached and you can’t replace them all

But Amorim needs to find a way to get results at the moment we look the same as last season and this year the newly promoted teams don’t look as bad as the ones last season

We are going knowhere fast.

29 Sep 2025 18:29:05
Why on earth can’t these players be coached, that’s poppycock
How on earth can you win anything with Mount playing LWB
Dorgu a player he bought is useless in final third… Cunha Mbuemo going backwards a new GK he is scared to play, Changes CB every game for another CB plays our best player in an unnatural position, Yoro and Mainoo on naughty step with Heaven build up play still slow and ponderous this is all on RA no one else.

29 Sep 2025 18:31:52
Short answer no.

If you sack everyone for every mistake they make them you're business will be nothing but a merry-go-round of staff changes.

Everyone, in every position, in every walk of life makes mistakes. You need to give them a chance to correct them and learn from them.

If they aren't able to then it might be time to part ways.

29 Sep 2025 18:54:55
The way they aggressively briefed against Dan Ashworth, yes they should both leave.

It was pretty classless and to insinuate that a highly competent football administrator/ director is incompetent just because you didn't agree on the way forward manager wise was ridiculous.

Now they have egg on their face and the next manager most likely will be someone with PL experience as Ashworth suggested.

29 Sep 2025 21:56:53
Dsg he wanted Southgate as manager that alone should be a sackable offence

As for Amorim he needs to change up fast as I think a anything less than a win weekend and it’s bye bye.

30 Sep 2025 06:48:07
Those who live in manchester and know a few blokes from the city set up will tell you wilcox was a nobody at city and had nothing to do with how they play. He ain't qualified to decide how united play but we stupid enough to make him the kingmaker at our club. bets guy we hired is the chelsea guy.

30 Sep 2025 09:00:20
So we keep saying that we want to have a clear consistent direction which comes from the CEO/ Sporting Director/ Head of Recruitment team with the manager/ head coach provided the tools to play. Yet we are then talking about ripping this up if the coach does not work out, even if it turns out to be a bad hire don't throw away the overall direction of the club!

We have been a joke of a club for years so it will take a while to turn the titanic round. We are year 2 into the Berrada/ Wilcox/ Vivell team and they have had to deal with clear out of players, bringing in players on a relatively tight budget compared to the amount of players we need to bring in overall. They are restructuring the recruitment especially the youth so that we can get the players in early and see if they can come through.

Overall I think they have done a good job, whilst as fans it is okay for us to want this job to be done quicker and now!

If the club have faith in Amorim (blind based on performance but they see him around the club) then I hope they stick to their guns and give it the season. If they are doubting his ability to turn it round (again from what they see around the club) then make the call over the next few months but definitely ahead of christmas.

Then it is a who replaces, are we wedded to a 343 system and as such bring in a Glasner (along with Wharton! ) or do we go for a Xavi who likes to bring the young players in and will be more 433.

I just want us to not completely pivot like we have done previously which is why the team has been a hotch botch of players for different managers.

30 Sep 2025 09:56:22
Fortunately there's been no real investment in wingbacks, so this squad could still be moulded into any formation at this point. Despite lacking a great CM it's still better suited for 4-3-3 at this point, we could erase the last year from history lol.

30 Sep 2025 09:59:47
Lots of differing views on that which is good to see. Yes we don’t all agree but we all have the club at heart and want what’s best. Thanks for the input on that topic.

29 Sep 2025 13:40:40
If we lose to Sunderland at the weekend, and let's face it, there's every chance we will lose. I honestly believe United will be in a serious danger of relegation.

Never thought that would happen in my lifetime.

Only chance of salvation is for somebody else to take control and get some life back into the players. These aren't relegation level players (on the whole, there are some poor ones) .

29 Sep 2025 13:51:07
I mentioned this the other day. Some will say it’s nonsense, it’s too early…. in reality it isn’t. We’ve had over 30 league games of evidence now and we r in relegation form. Talk of ratcliffe giving RA the full season, if he does that then we r bang in trouble.

29 Sep 2025 15:45:43
They will be no doubt but with the right person in charge they can be clear and challenging for a Europa spot.

29 Sep 2025 16:11:59
There are some decent players in squad, with the right manger decent CB pairing, probably Yoro and Deligt/ Heaven plus have to gamble the new keeper
Bruno in a number 10 or front 3 of Cunha/ Mbuemo/ Bruno with bringing in Sesko if any of them not performing, or Mount gives us plan A/ B
Cass/ Mainoo/ Ugarte must be able to shield Defence and create too.

29 Sep 2025 19:29:42
New coach should be playing something like this.

Lemmens

Maz
Yoro
De Ligt
Dalot (Dorgu is awful, could try Leon)

Ugarte/ Mainoo
Cas

Mbeumo
Bruno
Cunha

Sesko.

29 Sep 2025 12:50:43
Don't post much now a days and did not even watch the game. I have become immune to our results now and very little surprises me. We will huff and puff and get a result against a newly promoted side and go into the break.

I think amorim is the worst manager we have had not in terms of personality but as a football manager.

Any change to a decent experienced manager will see a massive upturn in our results imo and we have a very young squad with a lot of good players.

Until the change comes i have resigned myself to seeing mediocracy and reading we need 10 more players and tacticos all having a go at what would be the fix with this squad. Sad state of affairs

Loved watching europe beat the us in golf. Maybe Luke donald is available. he will get more of tune out of this group than amorim.

29 Sep 2025 14:35:15
Re: Donald, I felt that when Ineos first came in and installed Dave Brailsford in particular, given his previous even revolutionary success as a performance director in another sport I was really excited. I know he's no longer involved in this capacity, but it just goes to prove we specifically need some top level football experience in and around the club.

29 Sep 2025 21:02:48
I think your post Ahmad sums up exactly how I feel about things at the minute. They are an awful watch, even on the rare occasions when they do win. It doesn't matter who he picks or where he plays them because the players can't believe in someone when they can't win two games in a row.

29 Sep 2025 09:57:19
Something MUST CHANGE!
Why would any new generation choose to support Man Utd?
Last season I had to explain to my little boy why we did not qualify for Europe : (
I see from the start of the season he comes home saying how his friends in school talk about their teams' mid week performances in Europe and then he adds that I shouldn't worry, next season we will be able to talk about Utd in europe as well.
He loves utd because it is the only team I love and its been great father son time since he was a baby, I feel now he does it more to make me happy than himself and that shouldn't be so, esp for an 8year old.

#AmorimOUT! I don't want to endure this nonsense anymore, we played better under RA when he hadn't signed any players! We played better under RA when he had no preseason! The only system I see now is 'catch the chicken' - ten random people thrown in a pitch sized coop to catch one hen; no coordination, no cohesion, very little teamwork, lack of desire.
Any youth player promoted to the 1st team has his zeal and fire quenched by involvement with this team.
The coach is often the easy scapegoat but whose job is it to make a group of players work as a well oiled unit? Whose job is it to play players with desire to win? Whose job is it to ensure growth of players? Whose job is it to deploy tactics that nullify opponents?
I have nothing against RA, I hope he comes good but all indications I have seen so far are disastrous!
Rant Over!

29 Sep 2025 10:16:28
I don't know why, but I read this as if you were Bruno Fernandes.

29 Sep 2025 11:27:57
You explain that’s life. Sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s crap.

My son is 7 - “supports” Utd because I do, but he knows we’re rubbish right now.

29 Sep 2025 11:45:00
I think the club need to show some real leadership now and go to Amorim and say, as a club, we want to play 4-2-3-1 and we have brought the players and have the players to play this. This is our model and we feel this is our best set up for success. You can play however you feel works, play out from the back, route 1, counter attack but the shape and structure must be within this model.

I know they appointed him and this was his philosophy BUT they are now Head Coaches not Managers. It will be up to Amorim to then decide whether he wants to go with that or to walk away.

I really like Amorim, I think he carries himself well and represents the club well in his mannerisms and behaviour. I think his morals are great and in line with the club but I do think he needs some support and maybe guidance to help get the best out of the players and get some better results on the board.

I actually don't see a problem with the formation. Formations provide a convenient shorthand for talking about tactics, they are all slight tweaks of the same basic setup: defenders at the back, midfielders linking play, and forwards leading the attack. It is the execution—the players’ skill, decision-making, and cohesion—that truly determines outcomes. Formations may look different on paper, but in practice, they are more alike than not, and their direct impact on results is often overstated but they are used as an excuse to criticise. 3-4-2-1 can easily become 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 if Dorgu drops into LB and Cunha to LM.

The reason I'd be telling to make a change of shape though is for the psychological factor. This team has no resilience. Even Fernandes now on penalties is easily rattled by a bump from the ref or being made to wait a little longer. If you go out and say we starting out in 4-2-3-1, a formation the players may seem more comfortable with and being in positions they believe they are best in, they have no excuse then. No excuse to hide behind the formation. But psychologically, they may go out feeling more comfortable and therefore performing better. Shouldn't have to do this as they are professional footballers but clearly something isn't working for them.

Just for full transparency my line up would then be:
Lammens
Mazraoui - Yoro - De Ligt - Dorgu
Ugarte - Mainoo
Mbuemo - Fernades - Cunha
Sesko.

29 Sep 2025 12:13:11
I’d drop Bruno need something a little radical to shake things up. Besides he’s shown nothing this season so far to warrant his place as leader or star player, he’s been quite a big negative. The sharks are circling our captain every opposition can see his weakness and exploit it with ease and I reckon our own players can see it too. Besides, giving it to a more serious, hard working player who looks up for it is a free boost to the squad. De Ligt for me, really starting to shine and much prefer a defender/ defensive midfielder as captain. The team seems too dependant on which captain shows up they been so reliant on him in the past.

29 Sep 2025 15:47:46
We’ve no right to be in Europe.
We have no right to be good.

But the least we can expect is the players to give 100% and the coach to improve the team and adapt when needed.

29 Sep 2025 19:05:01
And the fans to stick by the team and support through good and bad.

29 Sep 2025 20:53:32
My daughter supports United because I do, she even asked for a United top for her birthday.

She will be a diehard fan because she will have gone through the bad years first and will therefore appreciate the good years more.

30 Sep 2025 11:03:16
Grim,

Spot on mate, also there are a lot of people in Manchester who will be supporting their local club.

It’s madness to say why should anyone support a football club because they aren’t winning consistently in my opinion.

02 Oct 2025 16:28:55
GDS, local club; fine . however we live on a different continent!

29 Sep 2025 07:39:03
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28 Sep 2025 22:54:43
I agree that RA should show more flexibility but the blame really should be with the players. They are paid fortunes and are supposed to be amongst the best in the world. They should have football intelligence. They have no midweek European matches so adequate time to train and prepare for upcoming matches.

If I was hired and paid top wages and given exposure to the best facilities and training then my boss would expect me to quickly understand and implement what I had been taught. If not I would be dismissed.

So why can these overpaid players not seem to grasp what RA is asking them? It's not rocket science. They keep making basic mistakes. That's not the managers fault and it's been a recurring problem under successive managers.

As much as I respect Maguire for fighting G back to regain his place he is patently not quick enough for RAs system and Shaw unfortunately is no longer good enough either. Dalot defensively is prone to go missing. We all know the need to get a better midfield.

If it were possible I would like to give RA another transfer window to get in better players but fear that he won't be given the time especially as more bad results will make the pressure for him to go intolerable. I remember the Tommy Docherty era when we were relegated but it enabled a better team to emerge. I don't want Utd to be relegated because the Championship is a really difficult place to be but it's a real possibility.

29 Sep 2025 00:32:45
If the current players aren't performing or capable of performing then look to the youth players and give them a chance.

If he plays with 3 at the back then play heaven, mdl and Yoro as the back 3.

29 Sep 2025 06:47:48
I got crucified for suggesting the youth before we turned into a new season.

I thoroughly believe we are at a junction where we need to be putting the right players in the right positions.

Players that need to no longer be part of the starting line are.

Maguire, Shaw, Dalot, Amad, Bayindir, Casemiro.
They simply cannot be our first choice.

We need to start Mainoo, our whole game changes when he comes on.
Bruno needs to be moved forward and sacrifice Mbeumo or Cunha, or bench him.
Amad is not a RWB, just the same as Dalot is not one and Shaw is not a CB.
Maguire is a liability. Play Yoro MdL and heaven .

Starting line up for Sunderland.

Lammens
Yoro MdL heaven
Youth RWB Dorgu
Ugarte Mainoo

2 X 10'
Sesko

Let them play the way RA wants them too.

29 Sep 2025 08:29:06
One of reasons he wil get himself the sack is playing the same players each week that are not performing

Like shaw is not a cb. why he continues to play him is a mystery.

You cannot trust that keeper all 3 goals were poor, he never came out to close any angles down on rbw first goal, second one he parry’s it into danger and the third was right at him.

Maguire another one that shouldn’t be playing games anymore

Bruno doesn’t work in cm either drop him completely or put him in his best position and change it up

Dalot and dorgu seem unable to cross a ball what are they doing in training.

We have a 6ft 5 cf and not one ball goes into the box or in behind when he makes runs

The performances are just as bad as last year and the teams that have come up are not as bad as the ones last year

The form is still shocking again, relegation form.

I cannot see how he lasts past Sunderland tbh lose or draw that he most likely will be gone and it’s his own fault fault:

29 Sep 2025 09:15:36
RA is the one who keeps picking Bruno and playing him out of position he also continually plays Dalot and shaw who are both shockingly bad. Add that to 3 slow cbs and we r caught out time and time again. Also we constantly get outnumbered in midfield. Yes changing the players might help but so would making adjustments to provide more support. He seems unwilling to do either.

29 Sep 2025 09:57:32
We obviously do not see what happens on the training ground and I have to believe that the players Amorim picks is based on what he sees there rather than blind faith/ favouritism!

I could also see the logic if he knew these players would be grinding out the wins rather than style to get us through but that does not seem to be the case.

I would like him to be brave, play the players that should be better suited to what he wants and see what they can do. yes could result in it not working but currently neither does the current team.

Bayindir produces great saves but then some very poor decisions. at this point no better than Onana so let's see what Lammens can do.

We are lacking pace for the space between the defence and midfield so let's go with Yoro, De Ligt, Heaven and see what they can do. I also think that Shaw could be utilised in a short period as LWB so maybe bring him on when the game has slowed down a bit, he can be clever and good cross on him. Mazroui on the RWB for me with Amad to bring on with tired legs.

None of the HM's give any confidence so let's see what Mainoo/ Ugarte or Mainoo/ Casimero could do together. will not be perfect but not currently working anyway.

Push Fernandes up into the 10's and rotate between him, Mbuemo/ Cunha/ Mount. run them raged and then use the fresh legs into the second half. It is a squad game so utilise the strengths of the 10's we have. Playing Fernandes deep reduces what he offers and leaves us weak and vulnerable through the middle.

Stick with Sesko for now, he needs to get a run of games and is showing positive signs. Rotate with Zirkzee dependent on the opposition or need in the game.

Lets just try something different. If not we will keep struggling!

29 Sep 2025 13:12:36
Brad they play against each other so probably look great in training

Something needs to change we have not improved at all

Fail to beat Sunderland and he will be sacked our games after the international break look awfull aswell can’t see how this team goes on a run anywhere.

28 Sep 2025 12:08:00
Think that was the game that seals his fate, even if we somehow beat Sunderland. We only won last week due to a red card.

We're crap, his system is awful but what i find staggering is his refusal to adapt, the top coaches all adapt in game, he doesn't. The same subs, same sh1t every week, truly terrible.

But some of these players, my God, Shaw, Maguire, Dalot, Fernandes, Ugarte, Bayindir, shocking. Bruno just isn't a captain, he's a pathetic loser, can't handle pressure, bottlers it when it matters. And he mentions a cultural reset but plays two of the biggest losers I've ever seen at the club in Shaw and Maguire, Shaw should have been sold in 2018 under Jose and yet he's still playing, madness! He's literally making a minimum of 2 big mistakes per game since he came back from injury in April and the fool in charge starts him every game.

Should have terminated his contract when he got fit for England and then got injured straight after again, pathetic loser, literally undoubtedly one of the worst utd signings ever. If there's a player that sums up the club's downfall, its him. Overrated tosser.

28 Sep 2025 14:07:16
Simon stone reporting that ratcliffe still backs him and think he deserves a full season…that sounds like a great idea! If that happens we will be in serious relegation trouble, that’s not hyperbole that’s a fact. He’s been in charge nearly a full season of games and we’ve amassed 32 points. Clueless.

28 Sep 2025 14:55:34
I think we beat Sunderland, then there's a mini break during which time the narrative will be all about the buzz of trying to reach the heady heights of winning a second successive game again :D.

28 Sep 2025 16:09:05
Which we have no chance of because it’s Liverpool at Anfield.

I don’t think it’s a fact that we will be in relegation trouble, it’s just an opinion and certainly is hyperbole, especially at this stage.

28 Sep 2025 16:20:10
It feels like the directors have doubled down as much as they can. You can’t keep backing a coach who is failing this badly.

I’m gutted that it didn’t work out for Amorim because he brought a bit of swagger to the job that has been missing. But the worst fears about his inflexibility have come true. At this point he looks completely defeated, and unwilling to try something different.

The sooner he goes, the better for everyone, including Amorim.

28 Sep 2025 16:58:13
Id thank him for getting rid or at least trying to get a decent amount of the wasters out- then wave him goodbye. He can't do the job, end of.

28 Sep 2025 17:15:56
If they didn't hire him, he would've been sacked long ago.

GDS, I know it's not really right to put the two seasons together but we are in relegation form here. Its unacceptable the level he has us playing at.

I'm not even bothered by the set up, the tactics, even the constant rotation of players positions. It's the fact that he can't seem to get a tune out of the players, either last year or this.

Maybe he just needs more time on the training pitch ?.

28 Sep 2025 20:05:37
I just want these players gone now. Too many managers sacked, too many open wounds. Wont trust them again. I don't care what happens with the coach as long as all players from 4 plus seasons also go. can't defend the coach anymore, but I am desperate for hin not to be to blame. This is mich deeper than him. This squad has no fight.

28 Sep 2025 20:07:34
You like Shaw then! But have to pick up on the Bruno bit, how would you feel, if your employer took you out of the position you excel in and put you in a position that you don’t like and makes you look awful that’s also detrimental to your colleagues and the companies performance… would you be happy and we all know if your not happy you don’t give 100%
RA is huge problem I heard a stat today that out of 49 games he changed his CB 43 times….

The in game management is awful…mount on LWB. Is weird but all because he can’t change his philosophy! It’s bordering on insanity, then after the game comes out and says all the things players did wrong. well maybe trying to rectify that in game maybe useful.

Cunha and Mbuemo now gone backwards under him too
It’s diabolical and he got to go
If they can’t get Iraola then Xavi is out there, I have even got to the stage I would take Rooney till end of season, it can’t get no worse if we stick with RA it’s going to be painful.

29 Sep 2025 11:58:06
He's missed 2 penalties with the slightest bit of pressure, league games against Fulham and Brentford, not the bloody champions league final! He's a joke captain, and needs binning, such a weak fragile captain.

28 Sep 2025 13:20:04


Ork has written an article entitled, It's Not Just The Players Fault At Manchester United

28 Sep 2025 13:34:44
I agree ork we can't blame amorim for the fact that Maguire made the mistake for the first or that it should of been a free.
It not his fault that dalot was doing I don't know what for the second or that Shaw just let's opposition players waltz past him.
It's not his fault that bayindir wasn't covering for the first and palmed the second back out bit harsh on him though.
You can't blame him for Bruno missing another penalty l
It is his fault that he played Shaw and Maguire against a team that there game is based on long balls over the top.
That bayindir starts now matter what
That Bruno is never taken off when playing poorly and in all honesty yesterday really looked like a red was coming for him after his yellow.
Brentford are a poor team but one thing they had was hard workers yesterday and it showed.

28 Sep 2025 16:27:57
Can’t disagree with any of that. I don’t think there’s a single supporter who didn’t want him to succeed, but to keep doing the same thing every week, when it isn’t working, is madness.

I would add that the formation isn’t getting the best out of our attacking players either. The number 10s, in particular, are stuck in areas of the pitch where they have no space to operate. Despite the system being designed to stretch the pitch, it doesn’t actually stretch the opposition defence because they can nullify our attacking players either if they stay compact and central. Our attackers end up playing passes at the edge of the box without getting any space to create chances. All that happens when we have sustained possession is that our team is stretched and completely open to the counter.

30 Sep 2025 04:14:55
Couldn't agree more Ork.
We even look to have plenty of squad options when lining up 433.
I just don't get it.