04 Jan 2014 11:16:04
Eds or posters, does anyone know for sure where we are in terms of our 25 man squad? I think we still need to sell, or at least remove personnel from the 25 man squad before we can add to it. Am I right in thinking under 21's do no count in the 25 as long as we still have at least 8 "home grown" ( as deemed by the PL) players in the 25? Even with the likes of Bebe and Macheda out on loan I still think we have our full quota, but I may be wrong. Hopefully someone can confirm or correct this.

{Ed002's Note - A club may have up to a maximum of 17 non HG players over 21 and then my bolster the squad with HG players over 21 to fill up the 25 man squad. Under 21s are exempt from this.}

1.) 04 Jan 2014
Cheers Ed, I think that pretty much as I thought. Do you know if we have our full "quota", and need to sell before we buy? I thought we had a full 25, but also thought I heard Ben Amos ( one of the 25) went out on loan.

{Ed002's Note - I would need to check - but why don't you do it and let everyone know?}

2.) 04 Jan 2014
Fair do's ed. From what I can find it would appear that we do have a full 25. Ben Amos was one of them but went to Carlisle on loan, but I think that ended on 1st Jan? The likes of Henriques etc are out on loan but being under 21 don't count anyway, like like Januzaj who is obviously still here. So it would appear that we do need to sell before we can buy, as I can't see the club dropping players like Anderson from the squad without selling them or loaning them our due to their wages.

3.) 04 Jan 2014
25-man squad list (player name and whether they are 'home grown')

De Gea Quintana, David (No)
De Abreu Oliveira, Anderson Luis (No)
Amos, Benjamin Paul (Yes)
Carrick, Michael (Yes)
Cleverley, Thomas William (Yes)
Lindegaard, Anders Rozenkrantz (No)
Hernandez Balcazar, Javier (No)
Evans, Jonathan Grant (Yes)
Evra, Patrice Latyr (No)
Ferdinand, Rio Gavin (Yes)
Giggs, Ryan Joseph (Yes)
Almedia the Cunha, Luis Carlos (No)
Smalling, Christopher (Yes)
Valencia Mosquera, Luis Antonio (No)
Rooney, Wayne Mark (Yes)
Vidic, Nemanja (No)
Welbeck, Daniel (Yes)
Young, Ashley Simon (Yes)
Van Persie, Robin (No)
Kagawa, Shinji (No)
Pereira the Silva, Rafael (Yes)
Pereira the Silva, Fabio (Yes)
Buttner, Alexander (No)
Fletcher, Darren Barr (Yes)
Fellaini Bakkioui, Marouane (No)

The chances of Anderson, Nani, Buttner, Fabio, Amos, Young and Hernandez all being at the club come the end of January seem slim. I'd expect at least 3 to leave in some way (loan or permanent).

Ideally we will see Nani, Ando, Young and Buttner leaving with Vidal, Koke, Mangala and Ribeiro coming in.

4.) 04 Jan 2014
We don't have any problem with home grown. Since De Gea, Evra, Lindeegard, Chicharito, Vidic, Anderson, Nani, RVP, Valencia, Shinji, Buttner, Fellaini, that would make it 12.
And rest of Evans, Ferdi, Smalling, Rafael, Fabio, Young, Carrick, Giggs, Cleverly, Rooney, Welbz, Fletcher, Ben Amos. That make is it 13.

By the end of January we have to submit any change to the squad. The only way we can bring in players in January is if we send players on loan.

Most likely Ben Amos will be extending his loan for the remainder of the season. Since Carlisle united are waiting for approval for the extension of loan.
If I have to name someone else it would be Fabio. Unless we get a Left back, we can not let Buttner on loan. Obviously there is Macheda whose loan has ended but still decisions to be made since he will take a space if he is to come back.

Most likely if we send Fabio on loan, we can get 2 INs, if not there is only one spot for transfer INs.

I don't think we will sell players unless we are sure that we are getting our targets(if targets are sorted out at first place).

5.) 04 Jan 2014
REd

You have missed Phil Jones

6.) 04 Jan 2014
So to answer the original question, yes we need to move players on before we can add to the squad.

7.) 04 Jan 2014
Phil Jones does not need to be registered in the 25 man squad as he was under 22 at the start of the season.