05 Jul 2014 12:58:54
Vidal r carvalho guys who would you pick and why. I haven't seen carvalho but what I've seen of vidal he's a top player and would get even better playing in the pefm

{Ed004's Note - No doubt about it Vidal is the far better player currently but I'm not sure he would suit us as much as Carvalho would}


1.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 13:30:22
Hi Ed004 why would you think vidal may not suit us as much? I think we all have to remember that under LVG we will not be playing anything like the style we have been playing for the last few years Therefore all players coming in will be sited for there ability to play LVG's style. No?


2.) 05 Jul 2014
I meant prem not pefm. I'd pick Vidal myself he's all action and covers a lot of ground


3.) 05 Jul 2014
Ken I think if the World Cup has told us anything, van Gaal is not afraid to alter his style. Certainly it stems from his philosophy that he has always had as a manager, but he can definitely tweak it in regards to who the opposition is or what players are available. I think van Gaal is going for versatility in players, to be able to adapt to a style which may change every couple of games.


4.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 13:30:22
Hi Ed004 why would you think vidal may not suit us as much? I think we all have to remember that under LVG we will not be playing anything like the style we have been playing for the last few years Therefore all players coming in will be sited for there ability to play LVG's style. No?

{Ed004's Note - Yes I agree but LvG style of play is well known. We have plenty of numbers 10's just signed Herrera for the number 8 role and now we need a 6. Personally Vidal would be wasted there. Unless he wants to play Vidal, Herrera and Carvalho. With mata and Januzaj further forward. Would mean width comes from full back}


5.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 14:41:13
I agree Andy that's my point . Looking at potential players and saying they don't fit our style seems strange to me as our style is going to change dramatically compared to last few years. We need players to fit into the new style not our old one


6.) 05 Jul 2014
004, isn't it possible that we could play three CB's in a 352 or 343 (Jones, Hummels, Evans) with no number 6 and Vidal & Herrera as two b2b midfielders? CB's are just examples.

{Ed004's Note - Currently discussing this with Ed1 atm. Reckon all width would come from full backs. Very similar to how holland plays}


7.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 15:01:16
Yeah Ed I agree vidal is not a 6 carvalho is I would like to see him behind 2 b2b herrera and vidal both of whom are creative enough and have the vision and ability of a traditional 10. with mata floating and 1 of adnan/ greizman / de maria/sanchez alongside side rvp. that is how LVG has been using rvp with sneijder and robben during the WC i'd like to see mata take the sneijder role and one of the other play the robben type role. With those 3 in midfield behind them shaw and raf wide we would be in great shape IMO

{Ed004's Note - so who is covering for the fullbacks when they push forward}


8.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 15:24:17
carvalho as the DM same way mccarthy did for everton last season I was reading an article with quotes from baines and coleman saying that without mccarthy both their styles would be hugely affected. same with busquetts at barca covering alves who never defends and alba or alonso at RM. Its that holding player that arsenal miss badly too and it looks like they have identified sneirdalin to fill it as arteta has not got the legs to cover full backs anymore


9.) 05 Jul 2014
I would have Carvalho as the 3rd CB in a 352 or 343


10.) 05 Jul 2014
05 Jul 2014 15:30:25
ed well_be_beck (most recent post) has a team on the teams page with my response below that's how I see it. would not be mad about the CB pairing but I could live with it if we had the rest' ;)


11.) 05 Jul 2014
Vidal all day long why because he's the best all round midfielder on the planet


12.) 05 Jul 2014
I'd have Mccarthy all day long ken!

{Ed007's Note - Hear bloody hear!}