1.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 10:24:41
How about Cardiff pay £7.5 million to Nantes and both leave it at that. The poor bloke lost his life and the club's don't look too good fighting over £15 million.

{Ed001's Note - Cardiff should just pay up. They have to be in breach of contract by refusing to pay. What they are doing is extremely distasteful and sickening.}


2.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 10:30:41
They weren't too concerned with the ins and outs of the contract, and how the guy was approached when he was still alive. Sticks in the throat after all their manufactured, outpouring of public grief.


3.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 10:57:24
Surely there must be some insurance policy in play here?!?


4.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 17:53:00
Either way Cardiff wanted him, poor bloke died going to Cardiff. And they pull this one Talk about money being the root of all evil.


5.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 20:32:30
Ed 001, seemingly not in breach as not fully registered?

{Ed001's Note - but that is down to them breaking rules on signing fees, so the issue is all Cardiff's end. The FFF had signed and sealed all on Nantes end and the TMS had put it through. The problems seem to be all on the FAW/FA end.}


6.) 26 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 22:59:01
End of the day they have the agreement with the selling club, in this case Nantes, to buy the player for agreed amount. They should honour the agreement. If they can claim back on the insurance then do so. If they're covered. But they should pay what they owe.


7.) 27 Mar 2019
26 Mar 2019 22:41:51
Ed001 do you think maybe that the investigation taking place into the Sala situation may be insurance driven. It is all well and good saying they should just pay the amount but it needs to be clarified exactly at who’s feet the insurance claim needs to lie. This whole witch hunt around Cardiff is getting sickening to be honest. Every one and there dog seems to either know the ins and outs of the contract or suggest Cardiff should pay out of some moral obligation. It is so naive it is beyond belief. Say for example Cardiff do pay out, and the insurance company consider that the amount should have been claimed by Nantes, then what?

It isn’t a case of a team refusing to pay but needing to establish the facts before they do. The process would be the same for literally any club worldwide. Also I don’t see the moral question ability of this, either Nantes claim or Cardiff claim. Don’t think the moral obligation goes a long way with any insurance company, if they are told they need to reimburse the club as they paid when they came under public pressure and scrutiny.

{Ed001's Note - no, this is completely and utterly down to Cardiff trying to weasel out of a payment. Cardiff messed up and it is all down to them.}


8.) 27 Mar 2019
27 Mar 2019 07:14:52
Ed001 how is it all down to them and how did they mess up? The player was offered a flight, he didn’t want it, so he organised through an agent of Nantes. Where is Cardiff’s fault there.

{Ed001's Note - they are responsible for the player, they signed a contract, so they should have sorted it out. They have been utterly unprofessional from start to finish. At other clubs, the flights would have been sorted by them, as would everything else. Unfortunately Cardiff are poorly run, with staff employed in high level positions purely because they are mate's with the owner's son etc, and there is a complete lack of professionalism in all their dealings. Then, when it all goes tits up, they try and blame everyone else for the things they should have been taking care of. I am sorry but 'being offered a flight' is nonsense and he never 'organised it through an agent of Nantes' at all. McKay who organised it is actually Neil Warnock's mate. It was his son who was employed as a go-between by Nantes and neither should have had any more involvement at that point.}


9.) 27 Mar 2019
27 Mar 2019 08:43:16
Not disagreeing that the club is a mess, with all issues thinly veiled by the success last season, 70m of debt being written off and some nice gestures to the fans by the board. It’s well known our youth systems a mess and our transfer negotiations have been as reliant on McKay as Uniteds have been on Raiola or Mendes in the past. Both are issues that need to be resolved. But I refuse to accept that a player organising a flight which crashed as anything but a horrendously unfortunate event. Also the communications for arrangement took place with Mckays son, as the released texts have shown. The club contacted with Sala stating he had made his own plans.

{Ed001's Note - why are you bothering me then if you know it all? Pointless conversation this.}


10.) 27 Mar 2019
27 Mar 2019 08:57:16
To be honest I was just interested to hear an educated outsider view. Sorry if it came off as argumentative.

{Ed001's Note - in my educated view, a club at Premier League level usually has a 'travel agent' (I don't mean Thomas Cook or similar but a specifically employed person who deals with all travel agents pertaining to the team and players) to arrange these kind of things. Players are massively valuable assets and no club at the top level can afford to just trust to mates or randoms to ensure they get where they are going safely. Teams will arrange through a network, which is why you will often see the Argentine contingent of Manchester and Liverpool teams, for example, travel back together on the same private jet from international games.

This was a record deal for Cardiff and they just let him sort out his own travel with no checks to make sure their big signing was not flying in some rickety old bird across the English Channel! The reason insurance will be a problem, and will take years to sort out, is because they did not handle it all in-house like a professional club. If they had done so, as they should, then there would be little in the way of issues. Now they have all the problems of possibilities of unlicensed pilots and planes etc, that could easily have been avoided.

A lot of players go back to their previous clubs to say good bye, clear out their lockers etc, but the club sort it all out, it is all insured on licensed flights. What has happened is a tragedy, 2 people died, but you can't then wash your hands and try and avoid responsibility when you were in a position to avoid it all!}