04 Feb 2014 11:50:45
I am not sure if anyone else noticed Jose subtle dig at Moyes' and United yesterday?
He basically said: "unlike other managers' who claim they need 4 or 5 years to build a team, my Chelsea side will be ready next season to challenge the best".

Jose would have had us playing similar to the way he has got Chelsea playing, if we had him here.

What a shame that those who lead the club are so parochial!

1.) 04 Feb 2014
Samthered

Mourinho talks a lot of bs mate. His team hashed 350 pumped in it in less than 3 years mate. Even before he came everyone acknowledged they were a striker or two from being very good. Instead he has piled another 100 million into more midfielders, wingers, defenders and will spend another 80 to 100 Mill this summer.

Let's us spend a couple of windows at their rate and then see how good we are and he is. He could not do it in spain when he had another club who could match his spending and I suspect city will not only match him but also beat him at it. Fergie saw him off last time with half the budget Mourinho spent on players.

If moyes had inherited a team that the previous manager had invested let's say 250 mill of funds and then went on to spend another 100 million under moyes, would anyone accept him saying not this year but next year we should win the league.

He is getting slagged by people for two signings, which we have seen 5 games from one and he has been out injured and the other one has played a total of 1 1/2.

The same people then go on and post that we need to change unto 10 players because they are rubbish but also blame the manager for not being able to get rubbish to perform worldly.

Some of the stuff here is just so bad it should be ignored.

2.) 04 Feb 2014
Gcu
You really have a problem with Jose.

3.) 04 Feb 2014
You cannot help but think his p!ss take of the Chelsea masseur's accent was a dig at Moyes too.

4.) 04 Feb 2014
Haha, Sydney! I actually never thought about that :)

I wouldn't put anything past that Machiavellian schemer!

5.) 04 Feb 2014
Steviek, as if the team masseur would give a teamtalk. Jose is a clever manager, he is very good at mind games.

6.) 04 Feb 2014
I'm only joking, mate. You only had to see the smirk on his face when he was telling the story, and the repeated, 'seriously', when the journalists questioned him about it, to know he was having them on.

Bet some of the journalists did take him at face value though.

7.) 04 Feb 2014
Jred

I think he is a very clever guy who cows how to manipulate things but also believe he been lucky being in the right place/right time as they say. His managerial genius is over blown due to his inability to deal with things when they go the wrong way. If he is a genius then what is Guardiola because he sure knew how to handle him in La Liga.

To me character is a big part of any senior leadership position and how they deal with setbacks is almost more important than when things go well and he has none when things go wrong.

8.) 04 Feb 2014
Gcu
I think he's a top manager and his record speaks for its self.

I don't judge anyone player or manager on what happens at Madrid, the club is a circus.
I also think Jose will continue to win things and end up one of the most successful managers of all time . He has all ready won titles in 4 different leagues and CL with 3 different teams .

But everyone to there own

9.) 04 Feb 2014
GCU,

I think Jose is like marmite: You either love him or hate him. I personally love the guy. I think he is an outstanding manager and a first class tactician. He knows how to get under opposition managers’ skins to devastating effect, just like the gaffer used to.

IMO, he and Maybe Pepe, were the only candidates available, who could have gotten the best out of our squad.

Alas, we have Dave, Joe, Steve and Phil. FFS!

10.) 04 Feb 2014
Mourinho likes talking and taking the piss out of journalists as steviek rightly said, that's his style.
CGu, you have a downer on mourinho. You might not like his personality etc, but to start talking about him as if he's a useless manager is ridiculous. This guy has won everything there is and done it wherever he's been. He is in a different class from the rest. His record is unbelievable. Him and Moyes are light years apart, and frankly speaking, he's right when he says that it should not take more than a year to build a winning team. By saying he'll have a winning team next year, he is also putting pressure on himself and raising the bar for his players to aspire to. If we start talking about 4/5 years to build a team at United, then that is far too long in my opinion.
Moyes has got a good base here, the gea, Rafael, mata, januzaj, Rooney, RVP, jones, kagawa. Add to that some upon and coming youth in zaha, Powell, lingaard and the manager should have a team that should challenge providing he can buy three world class players and plays the right tactics.
Only time will tell.

11.) 04 Feb 2014
Im sorry gcu but Jose overturned barca in the second season. I can't think of many managers who would do that.

You sound like you believe that if moyes was given the same spending as mourinho he would be as good. Not a chance

12.) 04 Feb 2014
Mourinho is on a different planet to Moyes to such an extent it is embarrassing. Take one look at Jose's win record and compare to Moyes. The defence of Moyes and the decision to appoint Dithering Disastrous Dave has to be defended by attacking Mourinho because the simple comparison shows we chose an inadequate alternative. There were many managers on the list between the genius of Mourinho and DDD.

13.) 04 Feb 2014
Nomid

Jose inherited a Chelsea team that started the process of retooling the entire squad 3 years ago and has had massive money go in already. Players like Hazard, Oscar, Ramirez were not his purchases and he is a lucky boy to have them.

Benitez had them on a huge run with european honors at the end of last season. He has since taking over bought 6 new players at an additional cost of 130 mill and shipped out 2 fringe players. If the same was done at our club no one would want to hear next season and many would also not like his style of football as it is definitely not the beautiful game.

I do take my hat off to him for being able to build teams that defensively very very good and grinding out results.

Jred

whether you judge him by it or not he was a disaster at Madrid mate and quite a bit of it was his own doing. Have I been sleeping as I do not recall him winning 3 Cl trophies with 3 teams?

QJordan

What I can say is no one knows what Moyes would be like with the right financial backing and time and those that are dismissing him are doing it arbitrarily.This is not a DM team and has too many old players and other that are SAF type. DM might prove to be the wrong manager but will only know that in 18 months time.

We have 5 or 6 wingers and 3 genuine midfielders with 2 being average, find me a top team in Europe who is set up this way, it is a joke.

We have too many number 10s, who are too good to be sitting on the bench but difficult to play together.

We have the Rooney issue that has been dragged out all summer and still ongoing and definitely not helping things.

We have an aging defense and the younger lads besides Evans are rubbish when asked to play out from the back, which is a concern.



One thing I do know is unless you are Real Madrid with incredible financial resources, Mourinho does leave most places he has been in a mess, including Chelsea last time around.

He is not designed for us and neither are we right for him and I understand what Sir bobby was talking about as far back as 2012 when he said he is not right for United.

Short term winning at any cost has long terms issue that come with it.

14.) 04 Feb 2014
Red Man

The simple issue is you hate the idea of David Moyes as our manager and your frequency of posts go up after each bad result and you stay the same thing.

Oh wait we have had this conversation before :)

15.) 04 Feb 2014
Gcu
Yer that should of been 2 Cl.
In fact it should of been in the last 10 years including an eight-month sabbatical in 2007–08, Mourinho has led his club to win its domestic league seven times, the UEFA Champions League twice and the UEFA Cup once. Between 2003 and 2012, Mourinho did not go a single calendar year without winning at least one trophy.
Porto (2002–2004)
Primeira Liga (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
Taça de Portugal (1): 2002–03
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1): 2003
UEFA Champions League (1): 2003–04
UEFA Cup (1): 2002–03
Chelsea (2004–2007)
Premier League (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
FA Cup (1): 2006–07
Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
FA Community Shield (1): 2005
Internazionale (2008–2010)
Serie A (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia (1): 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2008
UEFA Champions League (1): 2009–10
Real Madrid (2010–2013)
La Liga (1): 2011–12
Copa del Rey (1): 2010–11
Supercopa de España (1): 2012

Awful manager

16.) 04 Feb 2014
GCU

Problem is you do just the same in the opposite direction. However I don't get personal about others to further my argument nor am I trying to achieve an objective, but we have also had that conversation before

17.) 05 Feb 2014
Red Man

Yes we have and you are are a wolf in she eps clothing. I generally post whether we win or lose and you are way too old, guy and wrong sex to get personal with.

18.) 05 Feb 2014
Oops that did not come our right I meant too old, wrong sex to get personal with LOL