27 Mar 2014 14:55:25
Redfaith what Martinez has done for Everton if nothing else as you may well say is provide masses of confidence, self belief and the freedom for the players to express themselves all of which you do not have currently under Moyes

1.) 27 Mar 2014
A lot of the players at Everton are coming into the prime of their careers with no or very little success so far, they're going to be very hungry for it regardless of what a manager has to say. Moyes' main players have won a lot of trophies, in their older ages and past their prime how much harder is it going to be to motivate them? Regardless of what tactics you try play if the players mentally aren't up for it what chance do you have?

2.) 27 Mar 2014
Ozwald you are clearly new to supporting united so may I suggest you look at the career of a player called Ryan Giggs who dispite winning trophies continued to have that hunger for further success, the DNA blueprint install by SAF at the club you now followy

3.) 27 Mar 2014
@Baz29

You have completely failed to comprehend my post.

Martinez has indeed brought a different approach. What I am saying is that the big words of confidence, self belief and freedom to express themselves has produced EXACTLY the same results as Moyes did.

To "progress" Everton need to get into the top 4. let's see if you manage to do that with the financial constraints. Everton have maintained their position under Martinez.

The post was intended to those (including many Evertonians) who are failing to acknowledge that Moyes took Everton as far as they can go with their financial constraints and that Martinez being able to replicate Moyes' results (yes, he has only replicated the same results and not progressed as some claim, hard truth) is down to the excellent setup Moyes left at Everton.

Everton fans saying good riddance to Moyes, United fans having a go at Sir Alex, such a fickle fanbase football has.

4.) 27 Mar 2014
What you need to understand coming from an Evertonian is after a long time we are now enjoying watching Everton, I'm glad how things have turned out with our club and I wouldn't want Moyes back or to turn back to how it was, yes we are currently in a similar position but the general feeling is pipping arsenal to that 4th spot is well within our grasp especially on current form of both sides, also yes of cause we have financial constraints but Europe would change a lot to what we could go after, that's the bare fact of our situation.

5.) 27 Mar 2014
You know things are going ti.s up when we have Everton fans' gloating on a Manchester United forum.

6.) 27 Mar 2014
What an excellent post redfaith! just started following this site a few months back and this is the best post I have read so far. I feel moyes should be given time and the backing by the club till december. the reason moyes failed miserably this season is because most of the players are already past their best and are bigger figures than him at the club. don't know why people especially (sad to say this - united fans here) want him sacked. who else is capable of taking over from now? best possible replacement yea obvious klopp. look what is happening to dortmund. yea he lost goetze and now lewandowski but he replaced them with good players for huge amounts as well. yes his team plays stylish attacking football. what about arsenal then? anyways I feel all is in the hands of the owners and the board and we should just back our manager for the moment. peace.

{Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site buddy but will you register your username please, cheers.}

7.) 27 Mar 2014
Martinez has players like Phil Jag' wanting the ball to feet for a start!

8.) 27 Mar 2014
It seems to be blindingly obvious that Everton are playing far better, with more flair and panache. Reciprocally it seems blindingly obvious that we are playing far worse, with worse results, morale, less panache and bravado, and (in case you missed it) less points.

The world is full of apologists. It is a distasteful and ugly trait.

9.) 27 Mar 2014
At Everton under Moyes, it was accepted and reported that his answer was get it wide, stick to a plan and work hard (recognise anything?). Now under Martinez, it’s possession, passing and tactical fluidity. Even several of Moyes old players say Martinez tactics are better.

When it comes to comparing the two, some point at last year’s FA Cup sixth round tie. That was when Martinez’s Wigan beat Everton 3-0, a match where Moyes’ response to being played off his own pitch was to freeze and keep Barkley, his most exciting player, on the bench until the 80th minute.
Hard to see how it was missed when our club made the rather strange decision last summer.

10.) 28 Mar 2014
Red Man

Barkelely last year was nowhere near where he is this year and could not get on the pitch even when he went on loan earlier in the season.

Barkeley not playing last year is not a Moyes thing and players tend to suddenly come into their own and some never do.

Wigan just beat city at home recently, who by most accounts will win the league. Does that make Pellegrini incompetent because that is even a bigger shock given the gap between those 2 teams.

Most normal people will accept that is why the game is great, but you are the type who blows where the wind blows and likes to blame and fly banners.

It is like the group that criticised dm for not playing Zaha, he is getting maybe 10 minutes and when they are desperate and have very little to pay for at Cardiff at the moment.

11.) 28 Mar 2014
GCU

I found what Sheedy said interesting, did you?