23 Jul 2018 09:09:13
Living in a world in which EVERTON are about smash their transfer record and get Richarlison for 50m, West Ham 40m on Anderson yet here we are, penny pinching on Alex Sandro, one of the best LB's out there. Is it really Jose's fault because the owners and board are so f*****g incompetent?


1.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 09:54:09
Maybe the board expect Jose to get the best out of Luke Shaw who was a record signing for a teenager, a player Jose wanted while at Chelsea.

With Carrick retiring and Young soon to be gone. Plus question marks over Jones and Smalling maybe we need to try and get the best out of one of the few British lads remaining.

Incedently some press outlets are reporting that Mourinho wants to abandon attempts too sign a full back so the club can focus on bringing in a centre back.

Which in itself is a poor move. We already have Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Tuanzebe and TFM who can play at CB. Plus the 65m duo of Bailly and Lindelof, both of which were signed by Mourinho himself.

That could suggest that maybe Mourinho doesn't make the best signings. This could be highlighted further when you consider that both Zlatan and Mkhitaryan have already left. Mourinho is also happy to let Pogba leave. And Sanchez has yet to prove his worth. That's six of the 8 players Mourinho has signed previous to the current transfer window that apparently have either been poor or questionable. Or 75% of his signings.

Maybe that's why the board are not so forthcoming with blank cheques this summer.


2.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 10:12:58
The best out of Luke Shaw? Seem's like your pinning the blame on Jose there. Every manager Shaw has played under has questioned his commitment and attitude, also gets out of shape when the season actually starts, enough is enough, get rid i say, no point putting your trust in a LB who you can't rely on, rather play Young. Also, the media say we are interested in Maguire, not Ed002 so i know who to believe.

{Ed002's Note - In terms of where there has been interest, Alderweireld is aging and the asking price is way beyond what most would consider reasonable. Milan paid too much for a then aging Leonardo Bonucci but will sell if they can make a profit on him - and that makes him tough to sell. Raphael Varane can likely be scratched from the list now. Alessio Romagnoli could be priced out of a move - Manchester United have already had an offer rejected and Milan will only look to sell if they still need money for transfers late in the window - and that won't suit the English sides. I am not aware of any approach for Maguire from Manchester United at this time.}


3.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 10:46:32
I agree with the first half of you comment Shappy, the 2nd part though I find a bit hard to swallow. If we start believing the press outlets then we would have as well signed every half decent player around. And even if we were to sign a CB, surely it will be as replacement for one of Smalling, Rojo or Jones. Also, We all knew Zlatan will leave. U are right about Mhki but he did facilitate the Sanchez move; and considering that he hadn't had a decent break from football since 2013, he may have been fatigued and it is understandable that he needed time to settle into a new club. And to be fair, he did not only clear out some 'fringe' players but we got quite some value for them. So the board shouldn't be worried.


4.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 11:05:10
Yes those managers have questioned Shaw's attitude, but they've also found a way to get him playing well. Under Poch he was in the PFA team of the year and LvG had him playing great before his injury, only 8 games of course but that's around the same amount of football he's had since.

We all know that we need to strengthen several positions and that the club can't just throw silly money around anymore. It's entirely possible that we just can't afford to buy one. If that's the case Jose should do his job and get the player he has at LB playing well. Obviously people will see this and say it's all on Shaw and he should grow up, Jose is completely right to give up on him. But there's clearly a player in there, that both Poch and LvG (briefly on the latter) tapped in to. It's Jose's job to get the best out of Manchester United's players, but I don't think he sees it that way.


5.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 11:02:46
Thanks Ed002. Hopefully we don't approach Maguire aswell.


6.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 11:45:56
When the owners and manager are not on the same wavelength then it is time to part ways.


7.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 12:53:27
Its a combination of the lot. The glazers are tight, we know this. They only loosened up when we started dropping out of the top 4. We know Woodward's incompetent. He's a bean counter too obsessed with saving 1% of a transfer fee, making galactico signings to sell pap, or setting up obscure partnerships deals to bring in the $$$. What next an official deal with Foo Yuk, 3rd best Siamese vodka? If they paid enough Woody would do it. Add to that he appointed a manager to get results. A manager that as we all know achieves those results in a certain style with a certain type of player. If he was a football man he'd have known that before appointing him. Jose should be doing better with what he has? Didn't he do that last season? After all according to half this site most of the squads crap. So wasn't 2nd overachieving? If (when) Jose gets sacked, walks out whatever surely Woodward has to go to. He keeps picking the managers and then keeps failing to sign their targets.


8.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 13:45:00
If Ed002 doesn’t connect us to Maguire, then it’s very unlikely, know who I put my faith in for info, dunno how Ed gets to know what’s going on, must have some senior club people as drinking buddies!