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23 Nov 2018 17:41:01
According to the latest leaks, Ramos failed a drug test the day before the 2017 CL Final which was then covered up by eufa, couple that with the amount of games they cheated through that CL Campaign the trophy should be rescinded. Absolutely hate that club!

scholes_18_18

{Ed025's Note - and what..give it to liverpool scholes?....i call it gamesmanship mate.. :)


1.) 23 Nov 2018 17:57:46
Or Juventus Ed025, who they played in the 2017 final lol. Actually, they can donate it to Everton because you haven't won one before😂😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - oh right scholesy, i must have slept for a year, i just would not be able to cope with "we,ve won it six times" mate, we would have won one in the mid eighties when we were the best team in europe only english clubs were banned, thanks for that liverpool.. :(


2.) 23 Nov 2018 19:17:00
Your favourite site sports witness have delved into these claims scholes, seems there a much to do with nothing.

Dont believe everything you read mate lol :)


3.) 23 Nov 2018 20:56:54
Not believing it yet. Never said he was either, but according to the leaks he is, and it so he should reprimanded DSG.


4.) 25 Nov 2018 07:28:53
As a Liverpool fan, we were simply not good enough when Salah went off injured so I’d absolutely hate it if we were given the trophy for being second best.

On Ed25’s point, blaming LFC for not winning the European Cup. I thought we were branded “ the delusional ones”. 😂

There are no guarantees in life, let alone football, so to say “we’d have won one had it not been for Liverpool Football Club “ is totally absurd. As we all know, the best team doesn’t always win. We weren’t the best team in 2005 but we were when we lost in 2007. Porto certainly weren’t the best team in the competition when they won the European cup under Mourinho.

Ed25, Everton have had 28 years since the ban from European football to win the European Cup and 30 years prior to that somcecthe competition was formed. That’s a total of nearly 60 years.

You talk a lot of sense mate, not on this occasion 😜.

{Ed025's Note - i have to blame someone drogie...and who better than LFC mate.. :)


 

 

09 Aug 2018 10:09:43
Do you still expect a CB and RW to come in Ed001, even this late in the window? Remember you saying RW is a priority position a few days ago, hopeful.

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, I think it is finished now but you never know, deals can be done quickly if the selling club needs to sell.}


1.) 09 Aug 2018 10:24:42
Most likely a CB Ed? Reports saying Spurs want player + cash for Alderweireld, get him in and i'll be a lot more excited for the season.

{Ed001's Note - it is hard to say as it is dependant on other teams and moves going through.}


2.) 09 Aug 2018 10:31:27
If they are sellling Kurzawa it is probably because they are confident in getting Sandro.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 10:39:13
Scholes,

This just goes to show that it’s all about shiny new signings for some people, if we don’t sign anyone then so be it, I’m still excited for the new season, one player isn’t going TJ chabge that and we would probably just get him cheap in January anyway, that’s only 4 months away.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 10:44:43
Gds we've all been pointing out the weaknesses in this team for at least 2 seasons. I think its right to assume most of us expected those to be sorted out thus summer. Jose has also pointed out said weaknesses and says he asked for 5 players to address them. He got 1 and 1 for the future. Not really adequate is it.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 10:45:47
You’re right GDS2, one player wouldn’t change anything. Just like if we hadn’t signed RVP we still would have won the league, absolute toff mate.


6.) 09 Aug 2018 10:54:23
GDS2 - I agree some people want signings for signings sake. But do you think we have done anything like enough to close the gap on City with our pre-season?

Any honest Utd fan will not be confident that we are now 19 points better, or City are 19 points worse (or a mix)? If anything the gap looks like widening and that is without factoring in the other competition. We were very fortunate to amass the points tally we did last season, now we have an even grumpier manager (deals not happened), grumpier squad if all the interview/ press are to be believed and no new brainwave with the way we play if friendly tactics are anything to go by. We had our luck last season if you ask me, this season we are in for a Moyes like season if we aren't careful results wise and more of the same performance wise.

Signings were essential this summer, more so than ever. Yet we have labored again, just like we do on the pitch.

Utd should be fighting for titles, not happy to just take part.


7.) 09 Aug 2018 11:03:14
Of course it is GDS, not like we actually NEED players to improve the team, probably moaning about the lack of width last season. 🤷‍♂️.


8.) 09 Aug 2018 11:10:54
MPez,

I never said one player wouldn't make us better, just that I am still excited for the new season, am I not allowed to be because we might not win the league?


9.) 09 Aug 2018 11:17:15
Beast, the majority of those nineteen points were negative results against the poorest teams in the league, get it right against those teams and the gap and the seemingly unbridgeable chasm that some fans allude to doesn't seem that great. City had a great season last year and that is undeniable but the rest of the chasers blew hot and cold and couldn't put a run together to make the league semi interesting.


10.) 09 Aug 2018 11:49:28
Sky sports at it again with their lies just trying to keep people tuned into their deadline day claptrap.


11.) 10 Aug 2018 09:01:30
@GDS2 well this obviously all your fault. How dare you write a positive, full of encouragement, chirpy, just what the doctor ordered, wonderful, vibrant, supportive and optimistic comment here :)


 

 

05 Aug 2018 15:43:09
Do you feel as if we will get Willian Ed001? Doesn't seem like anything is happening, only 4/ 5 days left and it's a priority position. Remember Ed002 saying Mourinho wants to sort out the lack of width in the team, only a RB added so far.

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{Ed001's Note - no I think Willian will stay put. Sarri is certainly keen to keep him.}


1.) 05 Aug 2018 16:09:13
Oh crap😓, can you see any other rw coming in Ed?

{Ed001's Note - I am sure someone will arrive for that position yes.}


2.) 05 Aug 2018 16:31:12
ED001, if you were the manager, who woukd you sign as a RW?

{Ed001's Note - Pulisic.}


3.) 05 Aug 2018 16:47:11
Ed1, is that something that you know or is that something like a feeling that someone would arrive? Given that we had been linked with Willian throughout the window, it seems like an anti-climax that he won't be coming in. Thanks for the inputs.

{Ed001's Note - that is seen as the main priority position that you have spent all summer trying to buy for, so I don't expect United to just give up because they can't get Willian.}


4.) 05 Aug 2018 17:24:11
Its all a case of who else is on the list and who's available.


5.) 05 Aug 2018 18:07:50
It might well be Dembele with Pogba moving the other way.


6.) 06 Aug 2018 03:57:26
Cheers ED001. How highly do you rate pulisic?

{Ed001's Note - he is extremely talented with a very good application to training. It is that which should see him go really far in the game. His parents are both professional sports coaches and so he grew up in an environment where he was shown that he needed to be dedicated and work hard to succeed and they are still big influences on him now. Plus he is a United fan, which could potentially add that tiny bit that makes the difference between a good player and a great player.}


7.) 06 Aug 2018 09:31:28
Cheers ED001.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}


 

 

03 Aug 2018 15:02:58
According to the 'London Press👀', we've agreed a deal with Spurs for Alderweireld, £55m five year deal. Discussing personal terms, hopefully true.

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1.) 03 Aug 2018 15:28:51
Be a great signing if true.


2.) 03 Aug 2018 15:58:43
Read same thing and immediately after saw another headline on Sky sports this time; Yerry Mina agrees terms with Man Utd lol.


3.) 03 Aug 2018 16:19:46
Could we be going for both?


4.) 03 Aug 2018 16:31:48
Could be if he wants to play a back 3.


5.) 03 Aug 2018 16:32:07
Maybe if Rojo and Smalling both leave.


6.) 03 Aug 2018 16:38:48
Eric - I think so too. A back 3 would suit us well, especially if we move Pogba on and let mata/ Lingard play at 10. Willian on one wing with Young on another - we will never attack with both wingers anyway. Will give Sanchez the chance to play up top with Lukaku who looked immense against Brazil in that position. Toby’s passing out of defence is also outstanding which is needed with a back 3.


7.) 03 Aug 2018 18:31:25
If we ship out Rojo, smalling and get mina, Toby . it would be fantastic.


8.) 03 Aug 2018 18:49:45
It would be great to get Toby. but doesn't sort out the rw and I carnt see us getting anyone for that position. but never say never transfer deadline not till Thurs a lot can happen from now till then or am I dreaming lol.


9.) 03 Aug 2018 22:12:04
I don’t know why on earth anyone would keep Phil Jones ahead of Mike Smalling. Jones has an injury record that could rival Darren Anderton. Admittedly, he played well for the few months he was fit and got a run in the team last year, he has rarely done it for United while Smalling has proved he is more than capable of putting in good - very good performances and has played with more consistency than either Jones or Rojo.

I’m far from a Smalling fan, however he is definitely a more reliable performer than Rojo or Jones and gives the medical department less of a headache. As a 3rd or 4th choice CB, Smalling over those two any day of the week.

As long as we can get some quality CB’s in that is. Unlikely though. Both Mina and Alderweireld have been mentioned a lot this week, both would be an upgrade on all three, so it would be positive business from Jose if he were to pull off a 2 in / 2 out move this summer. Alderweireld giving us the leadership, quality in possession and balls we are lacking at CB.

Also, Mike Smalling for the golden boot this year.


10.) 03 Aug 2018 23:56:10
DesHes

Maybe it has to do with the fact that once Smalling is around, Jose will always have a reason to play him (cos he's almost always fit) .

So naturally, we want him out of the way.


As for Jones, it'll be unlikely that he'll ever be more than a sub or backup (due to several reasons top of which is staying fit) .


11.) 04 Aug 2018 08:57:12
I would love to see us switch to a three at the back system, I think it works best for the players we have. However, under Mourinho it will only ever be used occasionally. He has said several times on tour that he is only using that system because of the players he has available on tour.

Once the season starts it will be 4231/ 433.


12.) 04 Aug 2018 11:04:57
Shappy was the idea behind signing Lindelof not using him in a back 3 with perisic as a wing back? Could still be an outside chance of that maybe? I think a back 3 of bailly and Lindelof either side of Toby would be very strong. Fosu mensah also looking decent playing there in pre season with his pace.
I doubt we will sign a wing back but maybe shaw and Mitchell could do enough on the left or young who played there for England.


13.) 04 Aug 2018 13:06:00
Man Utd have regressed. this was a tactic LVG wanted to implement. at the time he wanted to sign Vermaelan who joined Barcelona instead as United were taking too long. few years later and its similar situation. this seems the way Ed Woodward does his business and possibly why that Javier Ribalta decided to move on.


 

 

28 Jul 2018 07:42:16
Now, it may be because i'm tired and have misread but i think Alderweireld will be done, don't kill me for posting a rumour, on a rumours page lol.

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1.) 28 Jul 2018 08:31:36
I hope so, rather have him than Maguire.


2.) 28 Jul 2018 09:51:41
Everyday of the week Matt, Alderweireld and Willian (given he can perform every week), along with Fred, return of Andreas and a fully fit Sanchez, i think we'll have a very good team. Wonder what's happening with Bale though? He's be a dream.


3.) 28 Jul 2018 10:16:39
I wouldn’t mind Willian, but with rumours going round Chelsea declined Barca’s 60Mill+ bids then I would stay away. Not worth that much, around 30-40Mill mark sounds about right.


4.) 28 Jul 2018 11:29:43
Everton paying 50m for Richarlison and you say Willian for 30?


5.) 28 Jul 2018 13:42:51
Got to take age into account.


6.) 28 Jul 2018 13:45:05
Willian turns 30 before the start of the season. Pace is a big part of his game and he has 3 year max left at the top.

Richarlison on the other hand has another 10 years of top level football a head of him. He is growing and developing and has the potential to improve.

Whereas, Willian has plateaued. Also William's wages would be far higher than Richarlison's.


7.) 28 Jul 2018 14:10:47
When will you stop with this "he is young, he has potential"? Are we a selling club that develops players for other clubs. We have good youth teams, we develop our young playes. And we have to buy good, proven players. William turns 30, it's not like he turns 35.Plus Richarlison has potential but you rather have him over Willian? Football is not a game of age is a game where you've got it or you don't. Simple as that.


8.) 28 Jul 2018 17:50:53
Listen ziko if jose says white there are a few who will say black at every opportunity. Even if they are making sense or not best to laugh it off.


9.) 28 Jul 2018 18:59:11
Bloody Samsung again, eh? :D.


 

 

 

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08 Dec 2018 19:12:20
How refreshing is it to see our right hand side being used in a game? First time in ages we've got a fullback who can overlap, cross and he's actually quite skillful, some of his crosses today were fantastic. Hope he keeps it up.

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{Ed0333's Note - good player him. Has fire in his belly too.


1.) 08 Dec 2018 19:53:01
Yes, need more of them Ed0333, like Herrera, also excellent today. Needs to work on his defensive side but looks good so far, a HUGE upgrade on Johnny Jerk off lol.

{Ed0333's Note - I watched your game and I honestly thought you had a bit of effervescence and identity in your play today. I never thought you’d play better without Pogba and Sanchez. Doesn’t that sound crazy?


2.) 08 Dec 2018 19:58:03
His athleticism and final ball are phenomenal for his age. By the end of the season he might just be our best full back. Our team FINALLY looked balanced with him pushing up on the right flank.

{Ed0333's Note - he’s got a great future ahead of him at this rate mate.


3.) 08 Dec 2018 20:26:35
I think that may be a bit harsh on Sanchez personally Ed, we look a lot better when he's played upfront for us this season, movement, agility, technique, he can p
Press, think he's been a bit unlucky this season, we look better without Pogba, Lukaku wasn't great, Valencia, Fellaini. Was a good game to watch, eptomised, for me, by Herrera.

{Ed0333's Note - I still think Sanchez should be on the right.


4.) 08 Dec 2018 20:54:47
I agree Herrera was good today Scholes and I would probably have in our best possible team, but I thought his defensive awareness and pressing were his best asset. He's overly cautious on the ball though and only commits himself forward when we break high up the pitch. Him and Matic were stepping on each others toes today a bit today and didn't see the need for both of them at all. Fred on the other hand, all be it for the short time on the other hand, showed a willingness to drive the team forward either through incisive passes or clever runs in between the lines, he should have started really.


5.) 08 Dec 2018 21:05:53
Was at the game today lads done well.
Change in tactics a bit, thank God and surprise surprise a bit of a better performance .
More intensity, better press cm 20 yards further up the pitch at least .
Rash showed his potential again I am amazed people question him . lukaku pushed on pressed the cb instead of dropping in to 70m line .
Matic wasn't playing as a 3rd cb .
Well done Jose give a little bit of a glimpse of what the team can do .
That said they are a poor team on that performance.


6.) 08 Dec 2018 21:36:03
That said they are a poor team on that performance?


7.) 09 Dec 2018 07:52:34
He means Fulham.


8.) 09 Dec 2018 08:07:51
I was wondering 😂.


9.) 09 Dec 2018 12:50:44
I have felt of late that our weakness down the right has been as much a destabiliser as the misfiring midfield and makeshift (by that I mean chopping and changing either due to form or injury) defence. Like most here I assume, I have played in various positions but a key to a strong defence is a group who plays together regularly and learns to play as a unit with each other’s strengths and weaknesses. Dalot did very well against Fulham. He provided what we have been lacking the last 2 years from Tony. Width on the right, someone to go past players and some balls into the box from the right and be a threat. I have been a Tony fan he has been a good servant but his day is past. I hope Dalot can stay in the team and develop further. He certainly looks to have the potential. This will also make it harder for teams to stop Shaw/ Martial when they return. Mourinho should learn from this. You are old enough if you are good enough. Simple as that.
Well done Dalot for finally bringing some balance to this United team.


 

 

08 Dec 2018 15:47:05
Is this Manchester United for real? Nice to see us playing well for a change, fluid and attacking.

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1.) 08 Dec 2018 16:42:42
Do you think its a change of tactics today? According to some on here jose has been tellung pogba martial fellaini valencia to be bone idle and stand still but today he obviously told the players to run around a bit.
Yez its only a poor fulham but a few virus's missing today and matic looks better. No valencia we have good attacking runs. Rom and rash moving off the ball. No forward player just playing for himself and moving when he feels like it.
Dalot man of match as i write this in 85th min.


2.) 08 Dec 2018 16:56:10
Notice who isn't starting.


3.) 08 Dec 2018 17:38:17
We are showing pogba too much love when he doesn't try for France they get on his back that's why he had a big world cup . he is here 2 and a half years picking up 300000 a week and not getting stick from fans at old Trafford . it's an easy ride for him.


4.) 08 Dec 2018 17:38:32
Can't even win without people pointing fingers and making digs. Pathetic really.


5.) 08 Dec 2018 17:49:34
All I m saying he needs to improve.


6.) 08 Dec 2018 18:02:41
All I'm saying look what a different team we are without him. Much better performance.


 

 

05 Dec 2018 11:43:41
Question for Ed001, have you ever thought of doing manager profiles Ed? Strengths, weaknesses, tactics etc?

scholes_18_18

{Ed001's Note - I was asked to do them and I have a couple of requests, just not got round to sorting them out yet.}


1.) 05 Dec 2018 12:49:18
Would be a good fit with legends of the game.

{Ed001's Note - it did make me think I missed a trick when doing the Cruyff by not including a manager profile of him along with it.}


2.) 05 Dec 2018 13:39:16
EPL manager top trumps.

Mark Hughes

Strength - 0
Skill - 0
Results - 0
Ability to get top level jobs despite showing no aptitude - 100.


3.) 05 Dec 2018 13:06:32
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate, it is just a case of figuring out exactly how to do them.}


4.) 05 Dec 2018 14:07:25
-List of clubs managed
-Honours
-Style of play/ tactics
-Strengths (as a MANanger, a coach, ability to sign quality players, developing players, changing games through subs etc)
-Weaknesses (same as above)
-What makes them different?


5.) 05 Dec 2018 16:31:13
Could start with Cruyff. Plenty of amusing stories.

{Ed001's Note - good thinking Scholes and not a bad idea Mort, I had quite a bit left over from his Legends article.}


 

 

02 Dec 2018 15:56:24
You were right about Lucas Torreira Ed001, he is absolutely fantastic, what a signing, can't believe some pundits were writing him off because 'he isn't big/ tall enough'.

scholes_18_18

{Ed001's Note - brilliant isn't he? He was a tricky little winger until recently you know.}


1.) 02 Dec 2018 16:24:54
Fantastic player and what a difference he has made to arsenal.


2.) 02 Dec 2018 17:00:22
A winger? Wow. Like he's played there his entire career.


 

 

02 Dec 2018 12:00:55
In an ideal world, what would you guys think of a midfield three of Fosu-Mensah, Saul and Savic? Out with immobile Matic and Fellaini and the inconsistent Pogba.

scholes_18_18

1.) 02 Dec 2018 12:22:42
Fosu-Mensah hasn’t proved himself yet.

Pogba annoys out of me but in a mobile three he looks a different player.

Savic is a luxury we can’t afford. The defence from right back to both centre backs needs reworking, the right attacking position does also and I’d swap out Lukaku too.


2.) 02 Dec 2018 12:39:53
I'd give him the chance to prove himself at United mate, in his favoured/ preffered position rather than out on loan at struggling clubs being played at RB.

Ed002 has said multplie times that Pogba belongs in Spain or Italy, he's played in a midfield 3, a two, alongside Herrera/ Carrick in his 1st season, Matic Herrera last season, Fellaini at times, how much more help does he need? He needs to go.

Savic is affordable, if we get rid of Pogba, he'll be much more effective for Utd than Pogba, more rounded as a player, going forward he may not be as talented as Pogba but he is still excellent. Can also do a job defensively, something PP lacks massively. Get in another manager and i'm sure we'll still be seeing the same Pogba.


3.) 02 Dec 2018 13:23:01
Saul all day long, shame he could be playing for us now had things worked out differently.

Fosu-Mensah should be given a run, however I suspect it will be at RB if it happens. Midfield at a top club is a tricky place to learn your trade, very unforgiving.

Milinkovic-Savic looked a beast last season, yet this year he looks a little off the pace, burned out? opposition got his number? change in system? or just a purple patch last season? I think he needs to work through his form and get himself back to his best before anyone makes a move for him. Still young, still developing. He needs to learn how to rediscover his form if he is going to be a top top player. It's best we wait to see if he can learn that lesson before breaking the bank and heaping the pressure of expectation on him.

I quite like the look of several players closer to home. Andreas Pareira should be given a run, Herrera and Fred are all talented players who have qualities we lack in our current set up.

Beyond our own squad looking around the EPL is a good bet, they know the league are settled in England and are often better at adjusting and performing than many of the fancy names we don't see play every week.

Wilfried Ndidi always impresses me, Maybe not the best going forward, but an exceptionally hard worker, tackles well, reads the game well breaks up the oppositions attacks and keeps things simple. Could be an excellent foil alongside someone more creative.

Ruben Neves looks like he could become a great player, often is Wolves best player. Controls games, excellent passing, good shot on him and great understanding of the game.

{Ed004's Note - Any further signings we make should be with a set style of play in mind. Ideally we start going for mobile and techinically brilliant signings instead of having to rely on Matic, Fellaini etc. Because of that I would rule out the likes of Milinkovic and Neves. Additionally, Fosu Mensah most likely won't make it at utd in the long run imo}


4.) 02 Dec 2018 13:33:34
Pogba needs to tske fingers out of his backside and move back to spain or Italy.

Matic is not as good as what he was. Our cbs are either crocked or not good enough yet.

We have one world class player in De Gea and the rest are either too young or not good enough to be in the team.

W3 definitely have an good team to be in the top 4 but not a team that can you titles.


5.) 02 Dec 2018 14:14:45
Try and swap pogba for varratti, the type of player we've been missing a long time. Is Sarri a fan of Kante? doesn't seem like he wants to use him in his preferred position, instead playing Jorghino there. that's my xmas list anyway, don't think santa will deliver!


6.) 02 Dec 2018 15:39:36
Has anyone actually been watching TFM while he's been on loan? Don't know why people think he should be a starter for us.


7.) 02 Dec 2018 14:05:03
You think so Ed004? I hope TFM makes it at Utd, think he can be brilliant for us.

{Ed004's Note - He certainly wont make it in midfield. He could be a good option at right back if he irons out a few flaws. Hes very rash, inconsistent and positionally poor. However, they are all things that can be worked on. Hes very quick, good on the ball, solid in the air and hard worker. Ideally we would have him and Dalot competing for our right back spot next season}


 

 

 

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04 Dec 2018 13:55:03
A plan? At United Eric? Must be having a laugh, we like doing things the wrong way here.

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03 Dec 2018 15:09:42
That's a shame, always look forward to them Ed002.

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25 Nov 2018 17:53:25
Yes but he's made Wales worse, couple that with his awful tactics and they won't be in the Euros in 2020.

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25 Nov 2018 16:39:27
Giggs? Not yet, can sort out the Wales team in the time being. Would rather LVG over Giggs.

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23 Nov 2018 20:56:54
Not believing it yet. Never said he was either, but according to the leaks he is, and it so he should reprimanded DSG.

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09 Dec 2018 11:42:53
See the media are still after Sterling eh Ed? Get's slated by the media for no reason, done nothing wrong whatsoever!

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{Ed001's Note - the media are just as racist as that Chelsea fan.}


 

 

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08 Dec 2018 20:26:35
I think that may be a bit harsh on Sanchez personally Ed, we look a lot better when he's played upfront for us this season, movement, agility, technique, he can p
Press, think he's been a bit unlucky this season, we look better without Pogba, Lukaku wasn't great, Valencia, Fellaini. Was a good game to watch, eptomised, for me, by Herrera.

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08 Dec 2018 19:53:01
Yes, need more of them Ed0333, like Herrera, also excellent today. Needs to work on his defensive side but looks good so far, a HUGE upgrade on Johnny Jerk off lol.

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{Ed0333's Note - I watched your game and I honestly thought you had a bit of effervescence and identity in your play today. I never thought you’d play better without Pogba and Sanchez. Doesn’t that sound crazy?


 

 

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05 Dec 2018 22:18:02
Bailly was absolute quality, feel as it Lukaku and Pogba changed the game, but not for the better.

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05 Dec 2018 17:55:29
Definitely a win; never ever want us to lose, regardless of the situation.

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