18 Mar 2013 11:48:05
Daniel levy believes Gareth Bale is valued at £70M

Well I just found out something pretty interesting about 3 of the top forward players in the world, well 1 is potential;

- Neymar has a buyout Clause of £61M
- Falcao has a buyout Clause of £52M
- Isco has a buyout Clause of £30M

It just astounds me that 2 players rated more highly than Bale are cheaper and one with just as much potential is more than half of that valuation.

1.) 18 Mar 2013
There is a difference between what bale is worth and what it would take for levy to sell him.
Unlike the 3 players u have mentioned spurs don't want or need to sell and the player doesn't want to leave.
Bale is a 50 mill player for me but anybody who wants him will have to pay over the odds at the moment

2.) 18 Mar 2013
He didn't look a £50m player against Liverpool or Fulham. £35m-£40m tops IMO. He would sell for more as like you said Spurs do not need to sell and the market can be crazy. However finishing 5th may change things for player and club.

Sydney!

3.) 18 Mar 2013
Plus at the moment bale is better than isco and neymar weather you like it or not plus he's proven in the hardest league in the world.

4.) 18 Mar 2013
Syd
Neymar didn't look a 60 mill player against England
falcoa didn't look a 50 mill player last night or for the last few weeks, he's having a bit of a bad patch bit like Rvp
Daft way to judge a player really.
When you take everything into account age potential etc etc and then look at how much other players are going for I would say 50 mill is about right.
I honestly do see any better young players out there at the moment, neymar will go for mega cash but I think bale is easily at the same level. {Ed004's Note - I wonder how much people on here would be willing to spend on Bale and if Spurs are interested in Young anymore I would happily involve him in a deal. However, my issue with Bale is... Would he be as good as he is currently playing for a top team that have other top players and Bale wouldn't be the main man and have a team built around him? At the minute he is playing behind the striker for Spurs but would he still be as effective playing out wide and being allowed to inter change with a front 3 in a 4231}

5.) 18 Mar 2013
Neymar isn't worth £60m and Falcao isn't worth £50m IMO. Bale isn't worth £50m either. But it wouldn't surprise me if these players went for those prices.

Sydney!

6.) 18 Mar 2013
Ed
any team that spend 50 mill on a player would look to get the best out of him and would play him in his best position
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I don't think bale will ever be a United play but if its true that United were ready to pay 35 mill for Lucas, well I would say that would off been a bigger gamble than 50 for bale.

Truth is with the exception of ronaldo and messi I don't think anyone is worth 50 mill but the transfer market is mental {Ed004's Note - I'm not sure the team that are showing the most interest in him appear to be Real Madrid who are also very interested in Silva and they have Ozil along with Ronaldo, I can't see him starting out left or central}

7.) 18 Mar 2013
To be honest Ed, I don't think it has much to do with what we are willing to pay. If Spurs held out for £33m for Modric, then I think £50m is probably a bit optimistic. Spurs wanted £40m from any EPL team looking at Modric, so I think we'd be looking at closer to £60m-£70m to even have a chance.

That's just silly money for any player, and would be our entire transfer kitty and that's with selling some players. Is Bale worth £40m? I'm not sure. He's top class but needs a free role like Ronaldo, to get the best from him the team needs to be built around him. Bale is certainly one of the best in the league but I'm not sure if he's at the level where you set up your whole team to suit him.

Regardless, there is zero chance of the lad coming to us in the foreseeable future so can we might as well put the speculation to bed now before this drags out.

Danny Pughnited

8.) 18 Mar 2013
Lol Syd - what has RVP looked like in his last few games? I didn't realise you get valued lower after a couple of quiet games!

HBadger

9.) 18 Mar 2013
Ed004

I'd take Bale for £30m + Young any day. Maybe even go slightly higher.

HBadger {Ed004's Note - I reckon you'd still be looking at closer to 40 million}

10.) 18 Mar 2013
Difference being that nobody is saying RVP is worth £50million.

TK-Red

11.) 18 Mar 2013
2bh we got an over inflated market so all prices are way over the top plus most importantly when United come calling every players value grows. Not to mention the Levy united thing +£20-30 million just out of pure spite when he sees us calling!

12.) 18 Mar 2013
HBadger, I haven't devalued anyone on the basis of two bad games. I genuinely value Bale at £40m tops.

Sydney!

13.) 18 Mar 2013
{Ed004's Note - I wonder how much people on here would be willing to spend on Bale and if Spurs are interested in Young anymore I would happily involve him in a deal. However, my issue with Bale is. Would he be as good as he is currently playing for a top team that have other top players and Bale wouldn't be the main man and have a team built around him? At the minute he is playing behind the striker for Spurs but would he still be as effective playing out wide and being allowed to inter change with a front 3 in a 4231}

Ed he would be better if he had better players around him. Imagine him in a united set up with RVP, Nani/Zaha Rooney/lewandowski with a couple of good midfielders. As a team defending how do you cover that sort of personnel. At the moment when he gets the ball there are 2 or 3 players surrounding him and that leaves a lot of room on the pitch for other players.

I am not saying he is worth what levy is asking but he is a hell of player and deserves a major premium to guys like Rodrigues and Neymar.



Shahram {Ed004's Note - But at a club like united or real would he see as much of the ball and would he be played centrally}

14.) 18 Mar 2013
TK/Syd

My point was that a player's value does not change based on 2 specific games. Every player has good games and bad games - so to say 'he didn't look like a £50m player in 2 games' is irrelevant IMO.

Regardless of what we paid for RVP - he has not looked like he is worth as much in the last few games compared to the start of the season. That was my only point, you judge a player's value by looking at form over time, age, ability and so on - it does not change on a 2 game basis!

Syd - as others have said the market is very much inflated so players will tend to cost more than they are WORTH. I did not think Lucas was WORTH what PSG paid for him, for instance, nor was Witsel worth what Zenit payed for him. If you want these type of players you have to pay over the odds occasionally. Or just stick to our guns, which is most likely.

HBadger

15.) 18 Mar 2013
Now there is a player I Like Witsel and prefer him to Strootman.

ED, I would stick bale down the left wing and with amount of movement that we have upfront it would be fun to watch the interchanging of players when we are going forward. What he does provide which we currently don't have is someone getting down the left touch line as both Welbeck and Young tend to come inside and makes our play very narrow unless Evra gets forward and that has it's own consequences.

Shahram {Ed004's Note - If Bale was signed I still think a left back would need to be able to offer width for when Bale comes inside looking for space and to link up with the player in the hole Rooney/Kagawa when they go out wide. The biggest problem in signing Bale is that it will take the majority if not all summer budget and I feel the right wing is letting us down the most as atleast Kagawa can play out wide left and come in, our right wingers have been very poor this season and Nani looks like he will be sold so by signing Bale we can't sort out the right wing unless Rooney is sold and Kagawa plays centrally and a right sided player is sold}

16.) 18 Mar 2013
HBadger, IMO a £50m player doesn't go a few games unseen at a crucial part of the season. I think that is what separates a £25m-£30m player from a £50m+ player. That's just my opinion though.

Sydney!

17.) 18 Mar 2013
I'd rather Ozil than Bale. I bet if we offered £25mil it'd have Real Madrid tempted. Then they could put it towards the £40mil capture of Bale. Bale will stay with Spurs another season if they get a top 4.

18.) 18 Mar 2013
Ozil will cost north of 30 million and he would be a dream signing but highly unlikely I would say. I think Real will move Higuain, Modric, Kaka and few more fringe players in the summer. Eds is Ozil available?

Shahram {Ed004's Note - Ed 2 has previously said Real would listen to offers of around 25 million Euros I think. However, if Ozil was signed and along with Kagawa I reckon we would have to play a fluid formation something I am not sure Rooney would suit. He isn't quick enough to make up for his dodgy touch}

19.) 18 Mar 2013
Ed I agree that if signing Bale it means no other signings that would be nuts. I would rather get a couple of really good midfielders and a solid left back and go with what we have on the wings if worst came to worst.


Shahram {Ed004's Note - The only way I can see this happening is if Rooney is sold to fund the move and therefore leaving the rest of the transfer budget available to make furthe signings. I reckon priority this summer is a left back, centre midfielder and a right winger. If Rooney was sold along I'd be happy to have Kagawa playing central for us.}

20.) 18 Mar 2013
Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis says Edinson Cavani will be allowed to leave the Partenopei this summer - but only if a club matches his €70 million buy-out clause

21.) 18 Mar 2013
Just want to add - I agree with Sharham's view of Bale. Obviously he wouldn't get as much of the ball at United but having better players around him (e. g. RVP to finish his low raking crosses) I think he would excell. This is of course academic though as I don't see us paying what Levy would want for him.

22.) 18 Mar 2013
Everyone talks about what a player is worth, without an idea of what they are saying.

A player is worth exactly what someone is willing and able to pay for them not a penny more or less.

23.) 18 Mar 2013
Bale wouldn't see as much of the ball here or at Madrid. He is the gem of the Spurs team, where as Rooney, RVP & Kagawa in my opinion are our gems and the players that can make us tick. The best that we could hope for would obviously be a front 4 or RVP, Rooney, Kagawa & Ronaldo. That would be incredible, but unlikely. Anyway. Cannot see Bale coming to us, if he leaves Spurs he goes abroad.

24.) 18 Mar 2013
Fresh why would not see a lot of the ball? at the moment we have young and welbeck on the left wing.

I can understand when strikers are not scoring but they do provide assists, Welbeck can't score and can't pick a pass to save his life. Young who in my view is a much better passer and better touch than welbeck also does not exactly offer a lot and hence everything we do is down the right and valencia is having a horrible season.

I guarantee you if Bale was down the left wing he would get as much or maybe more of the ball than rooney or some of the other marquee players.

Shahram