27 May 2013 20:39:52
i know this is my big thing at the moment but I am really really worried. if it is true that Rene is leaving then I just wonder who is going to prepare the team as Rene has done all season. Please god no don't let all the Everton back room team be brought into United. We are Manchester United not Everton. I have never heard one person on here say in the past "You know what I wish we played like Everton". This is such a big risk and I am so scared it is all going to back fire on us.

1.) 27 May 2013
Kloot

I agree, I am very concerned if Rene leaves and so are all my United friends and also even more concerned if the answer is the Everton back room staff.

When SAF retired I imagine he would have wanted the majority of his backroom staff to stay but how would Everton staff be an improvement on what we had? (Phelan apart)

2.) 27 May 2013
27 May 2013 21:10:17
I'm 100% with you on this one Kloot. Rene has to stay as first team coach.

3.) 27 May 2013
Oooohhhh Rene - it's like something from 'Allo 'Allo! Ha! *sorry*

I don't remember for a few seasons now United playing with the flair of our best teams 99 or even 2008 so not too bothered.

It's been the determination of SAF that won us games. We have got to let Moyes have his own staff and judge him over the season.

Fergie chopped and changed his back room staff too.

Pedroknight

4.) 27 May 2013
Most managers do it when appointed, he's the man who makes his own decisions long may it continue we need a leader whose not afraid, you'll be we'll chuffed if he convinces Rooney to stay.
Dylan

5.) 27 May 2013
Any manager that comes in will want to do it his own way and will include his own staff.
Moyes will come in with his own ideas of how to play and transfer targets and he is a determined bloke he will do it his own way.
I think some people thought moyes would come in a and be a mini fergy,
But make no mistakes moyes will do it his way.
Never mind all the continuity talk we will be a very different team next year which is why some people have been very concerned about fergy leaving

6.) 27 May 2013
Haha!

Hillarious post from Dylan! Take a bow son.

7.) 27 May 2013
Of course David Moyes wants his own back room staff, any manager would. He's off on holiday next week so I presume transfer target, and issues around Rooney etc, will be settled this week and David Gill will deal with contracts.

8.) 27 May 2013
Must admit Rene staying is a must and he should stay involved with the first team. By all meen's bring in moyes could bring in his own number two but it must be someone with the knowledge needed to challenge in Europe tactics wise and to play a more pressing game so we are more fluid with the ball and more aggressive/pressing without it. let's just hope that will be the case. Also they need to make sure that we get the best out of Kagawa next season playing him in the hole behind the striker as his control/passing and decision making are excellent.

9.) 27 May 2013
Moyes will play his way, not what some number 2 says

10.) 28 May 2013
Would like to see rene stay but its moyes choice, if we do well he will take the praise if we don't he will get the stick.
johndenton

11.) 28 May 2013
Phelan out, I can understand. But why Eric Steele and Rene? They were doing an excellent job.
Also, they knew the players and they would have helped Moyes settle in.
NoMidfield

12.) 28 May 2013
Dylan, I have a funny feeling KLOOT will not be 'chuffed' if Moyes manages to persuade Wayne to stay.

Just a suspicion :)

13.) 28 May 2013
Perhaps Rene didn't understand the only command he was supposed to give the players at training. "KICK THE BALL AS FAR AS YOU CAN TOWARDS THE OTHER TEAM'S GOAL!". Devastated at Rene and Steele leaving. Rene had done a great job at every level at United, and Steele just turned a lightweight, tentative teenager into a top 5 keeper in the world in two seasons. I just worry that if hiring coaches with mediocre records and experience is his plan now, will he bring in the Everton-mediocre quality players too? We are Manchester United, not Liverpool's little brother, and we need the best, not the ones Moyes is most familiar with. Seems odd that Moyes appears to have used up his whatever good will I was planning on giving him in support on overhauling the coaching staff that just won a trophy (maybe he's unclear what a trophy is). Now I have no inclination to give him slack for the transfer window or the start of the season, as not keeping Rene and Steele is petty, and dangerous to the continuity that was the supposed reason for Moyes hire. Give me Mourinho, Rene and Steele, and there will be less transitional problems than Moyes and his yes-men. Just a sloppy and stupid way to start off one's time at the club, and it frightens me that perhaps the rest of his dealings (transfers, on the pitch formations/styles) will also be Everton-centric, which is great if you never want to finish above 6th. Not hating on Everton, but am saying that what worked to grab 6-7th each year is completely different than the task of winning multiple trophies, especially in Europe where Moyes has about as much experience as I do. I want to support him, but this isn't a good start to the relationship David!

14.) 28 May 2013
This is quite funny since we were playing some champagne football the last couple of years right?

We sat back and defended with 10 men in so many games and frankly the football was ugly so don't really get the moaning.

Let's see how the new manager does and sorry to disappoint you he is not a puppet on a string and will make his own decisions, which is very encouraging.

Shahram

15.) 28 May 2013
28 May 2013 08:33:39
Johndenton your a genius, instead of sacking a manager for a run of poor performances let's just beat him instead. The bruises will remind him to do better in the next game.

Being from Glasgow i'm sure he's used to the odd beating with sticks. Lol.

16.) 28 May 2013
28 May 2013 08:41:11
Jred, i'm sure Moyes will do things his way. But the whole point of having an assistant manager is for them to be a sound board for the managers ideas. They are supposed to disscuss things and come up with the best solution together. What we don't need is to replace Phelan with another nodding dog. The best manager/ assistant combinations normally come from having two people who have a different train of thought but can work well together. A defensive minded person and a creative minded person working together to come up with the best solution.

Steve Round nods his head so much he could sell insurance.

17.) 28 May 2013
Snappy
I'm sure it was only last week you were praising how Everton under moyes and Steve round played football similar to Dortmund wasn't it, so what's the problem
Jred

18.) 28 May 2013
I said the set up was similar not the quaility.

Sure Moyes will have better players at his disposal at United compared to Everton. But better players need better coaching.

Neither he or Steve Round have had any success in europe. Nor are either of them used to setting up a team to play two important games every week.

I had hoped that Moyes would be looking to step up his approach and learn the new skills required to manage at the highest level. But him bringing all his backroom staff from Everton shows maybe an arrogance maybe a naivity as to the size of the job infront of him.

Surely he knew the limitations of the players and the staff at Everton but he worked with that to the best of his ability to get the best out of what he had.

He doesn't have those limitations at United, he can not only attract the best players which he couldn't do at Everton but he can attract the best staff also.

So bring in the whole back room staff from Everton shows he either thinks they are good enough or he has underestimated the task infront of him.

I wanted him to bring his own ideas and methods but at the same time show that he is willing to learn.

A man unwilling to learn will accomeplish nothing.

19.) 28 May 2013
Shappy
I think all them concerns have all ready been raised, I think moyes like any manager was always going to bring in his own people.
There was supposedly a feeling at Everton that moyes was getting a bit arrogant but I think you need that to be a top manager.
For me all these changes where always going to happen it's all part and parcel of getting a new manager.
Maybe the full implications of getting a new manager are starting to sink in.
That said I think moyes has the potential to be a top manager I just wonder if we are taking a bit if a chance
Jred