17 Jan 2014 11:13:47
I must say that I feel sorry for Zaha, apparently he stormed out of Carrington today as Moyes has blocked him from going out on loan. I hope he gets some first team action, his career his going backwards and his talent is being wasted - something that I don't like to see. He has to get some game time soon surely, he is the type of player that we need that will run at defences.

1.) 17 Jan 2014
You know my view on this subject. manager is the boss, they should ship him out permanently if that is true.

He does nothing for me to be honest so I can see why he is not getting game time.

2.) 17 Jan 2014
If this is true, what is Moyes playing at? If you don't rate him, send him away if you do, play him.

SAF can't be happy about the way Moyes is treating Zaha seen as though Fergie bought the lad.

3.) 17 Jan 2014
Love Zaha or hate him(I'm undecided) the way we are treating him is unacceptable imo. He shows flashes of brilliance but gives the ball away way too often But at 21 he really needs competitive game time for us ( if we keep him) and certainly for his own development. Either let him go on loan or play him.

4.) 17 Jan 2014
He either has to play or he has to be sold, it's as simple as that. If he isn't going out on loan then it looks like he is going to play, perhaps.

5.) 17 Jan 2014
If Nani is going then makes sense to keep Zaha in the squad. If Moyes doesn't fancy himto start but wants to keep him in the squad that's his right as manager. Let's not forget who pays his wages. Besides, he's made the bench a bit lately. Not being in the team should be motivation to try harder to impress in training, not a reason to have a strop. Just my opknion.

6.) 17 Jan 2014
We can't fairly judge him until he has had some game time, either here or out on loan. Looks like it may be here if his loan has been blocked but who knows, he could just sit on the bench some more. Not sure why he has given Januzaj all these chances and not Zaha, don't get me wrong, Januzaj should be given all these chances but Zaha should get some too - at least in the cups.

7.) 17 Jan 2014
There was a lot of criticism for how SAF treated and lost Pogba and whilst I don't suggest Zaha is as good he at least deserves a chance either on loan or here.
There again I am not surprised at GCU defending Moyes

8.) 17 Jan 2014
Red Man, SAF didn't lose Pogba and SAF told us exactly what Pogba was. A greedy little sh!te. The editor has repeatedly told us what happened with Pogba and people repeatedly ignore him. The fact remains that Pogba was hawking himself around Europe 12 months before he left us.

In regards to Zaha, I cannot understand why he isn't getting a chance as he is a good player. I do believe it's a personal reason as to why he isn't playing. If that is so then that's poor management on his part.

9.) 17 Jan 2014
Sydney

I honestly don't think Pogba was soley to blame. This kid should of been playing first team football the season before he left, he was good enough then.
He continued to use Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Phil Jones and even Rafael in front of him.
Yes Pogba's agent may of been hawking himself out to every tom, dick and harry but I think that the problems started before that when Pogba wasn't getting the playing time he should of been getting because Fergie wouldn't let go of certain players.
Would you honestly want to continue at a club where for two seasons you being told "your not far off the first team" and then getting to the game to find out all the midfielders are injured and your still not in the side becasuse the manager prefers a 39 year old left winger or a 37 year old midfielder that has retired once already or even a right back in a central midfield area.
The bottom line is nobody knows what happened apart from Pogba, Fergie and Pogba's agent.
The problem is everyone believes Fergies story.

10.) 17 Jan 2014
Sydney

The treatment of Zaha is more my concern now as we can't do anything about Pogba without spending a lot of money however the fact was Rafael and Park were preferred in central midfield to Pogba by SAF. Let's not get away from the way Zaha is being handled and it is hard to see a reason why he isn't getting even a sniff of a chance when the wastrel Nani had many

11.) 17 Jan 2014
Simmo, Pogba was trying to leave 'BEFORE' he broke into the first team. Whilst he was winning the FA youth cup with the U18's. 'BEFORE' the season that you are talking about even kicked off. Like the Ed said, it was nothing to do with playing time and I think SAF knew that. It's not a Surprise as Pogba done what he did to us at all of his previous clubs and he will do it again.

He is a fabulous player and IMO will be the best of his type in a few years, but his career will be based on money. He will go to whoever pays him and his agent the most money. I have nothing against that as he will play for some very special teams in his career, but he is all about the money and SAF said as much. If you had a player who was special like Pogba and you knew he was stalling in contract negotiaitons to leave the club, would you play him?

12.) 17 Jan 2014
REDMAN

Where have you been BTW, oh I forgot we won our last game and you disappeared.

Given that many are expecting us to lose this weekend, here you come again and I expect the frequency of your drivel to increase as we get closer to the game and then god help you if we get a result, because your will suddenly disappear again.

Pathetic if you ask me, since you don't know anything about what has happened but would rather back the player than the manager.

You are correct in saying I will back the manager than some overrated 21 year old.

He deserves what the club and the manger want from him as they pay his wages and if they deem it appropriate to keep him at OT then it is their decision.

13.) 17 Jan 2014
Red Man, I agree, that's why it can only be a personal matter between player and manager. I think he wants him away from Manchester United, but nowhere near London.

14.) 17 Jan 2014
We will never know what would of happened if fergy had of put faith in pogba.
He may of been looking for a move but a run as a first team regular and the offer of a good contract may of changed his mind .

{Ed002's Note - He would have left.}

15.) 17 Jan 2014
I don't think he is ready for the first team, maybe the bench.
There has been rumours about his attitude a few times now and if this true its just an other example.
If your not doing it in training you won't get picked.
Also if there are attitude problems maybe maybe moyes wants to keep an eye on him rather than let him go out on loan.

16.) 17 Jan 2014
GCU

When you are on the losing side of arguments you get childishly abusive. You keep trying to baulk up the case for Moyes but the evidence isn't there and it must be difficult for you. I have posted on here for some time and will post regardless whether it gets you all in a tis like it has done.

17.) 17 Jan 2014
No disrespect ed, but I'm not sure how anybody can know what might of happened .
He might of had a crap season, might of got injured, might of been amazing and got a mega contract if United.
I'm not saying he wasn't looking for a move but things change and people change there minds for me we will never know.

{Ed002's Note - He was going to leave - I spent the entire season telling you that. It was known from day one. The only thing that was unexpected was a bid for him in the January that was rejected.}

18.) 17 Jan 2014
Sydney

I agree with you then loan him somewhere else away from London

19.) 17 Jan 2014
I think is to damn easy and convenient to blame Pogba.

20.) 17 Jan 2014
Jred, now with that in mind, picture SAF over and over telling the world what a great player Pogba will be and every time Pogba went into a room for contract talks, whatever they were, whatever was offered, he would turn them down. Can imagine how much that must have hurt our manager? No wonder he had a bust up or two with him. And no wonder SAF never gave him any game time.

I am gutted we couldn't keep him, but I am confident MU done what they could to keep him.

21.) 17 Jan 2014
Syd
I don't believe anyone can know what would of happened if fergy had of given the lad 30 games.

If fergy really wanted to keep him and if it's true he was offered a big contract I'm guessing he did, I just think he would of been better off given the lad a game .

Would it of changed his mind probably not but imo we will never know. but stranger things have happened.

Maybe one day fergy will look back and say, I could of handled it better, or maybe not

22.) 17 Jan 2014
Agree with jred how could anybody no wot was going on behind closed doors! apart from the manager pogba and his agent!

23.) 17 Jan 2014
Im with Syd and ed2 on this one, pogba always seemed destined to leave. I think that was known to be the case even as early as the previous summer which is why I don't think game time was the deciding factor at all. A huge shame as he is precisely what we have needed. I don't think pogba is the bad guy at all, he actually seemed happy to be at the club at times, I believe it purely comes down to his agents vision for him i.e. Flog him as much as possible. Just my opinion.

24.) 17 Jan 2014
Jred, nail on the head again, my friend. If he was good enough, and showing enough in training, he would be playing.

Most on here have seen him in a few pre-season games which he did ok in, yet they're prepared to risk any progress the team is making at this stage, by calling for him to be thrown in.

Moyes trusts Valencia to work hard. He obviously doesn't trust Zaha yet.

25.) 17 Jan 2014
Didn't P Nev say something about he was not quite up to the level required of the prem mentally yet?

26.) 17 Jan 2014
Redman

Please keep posting, I am going to have a lot of fun with you later in the year and would not want it any other way.

Can I ask you why you only post when we look like having a difficult fixture or after a bad result. Are you one that gets satisfaction from others failure to improve/elevate yourself as a critic and constantly say I told you so.

I mean does anyone need you to tell us with RVP, Rooney out we are looking at a setback at the bridge, That is really deep I have to say and some analysis by you :)

I look forward to reading your post match views BTW.

27.) 17 Jan 2014
GCU

You have only become so particularly active recently and appear to be absolutely desperate to get everyone round to your opinion. I have been on here for some time before you started your recent campaign although I know you were less aggressive previously. I will post when I have time and when I have something to add but I have posted many times and not just in the manner you make out, perhaps you only read what you want to.

28.) 18 Jan 2014
REDMAN

My posting does not change with wins or losses or transfer fever season and quite consistent. Yours is a direct correlation of set backs and your constant negativity.

The problem is you keep saying the same stuff man and it is always the same fear mongering. Never anything on formation, players, transfer, etc etc

It is just the same thing but communicated differently " Moyes is fault" Yesterday's pears of wisdom.

1.Zaha is being mistreated and Moyes is wrong.
2. The team will lose at Chelsea and has shown no fight "Moyes at fault"

Any insightful stuff for today? maybe a quote of the day to inspire all of us :)

29.) 18 Jan 2014
GCU

This last post shows both your desperation and inaccuracy

My thoughts on Moyes are very clear but I have posted many many times on formations, players, tactics and transfers over at least three years to my knowledge. It remains obvious that you suddenly upped your posting in strong support of Moyes and try to belittle the posters you disagree with. I saw your rather childish comments about Nomidfield whose opinions you also seem to want to dismiss. It will not make any difference to me, you carry on with whatever drives you but when you finally back your suspiciously overly pro Moyes opinion with some facts I might have a reasoned discussion with you.

30.) 18 Jan 2014
Ouch

I am going to take my ball and go play outside now.