08 Jul 2023 18:09:07
What a shame to see greenwood going out on loan. I was really hoping that he would get back into the united team next season. After a year out it may take him some time to get back so maybe the year after we will get him back in better shape. Also sad to see ddg moving on. I realise this is what eth wants and needs for the team so its a good call from the manager. Best of luck to onana.

1.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 19:32:49
A loan is probably the right move over all. Personally I'd prefer him sold and moved on permanently.

However, a loan gives him a chance get back in to form and fitness away from the club. If he does well on loan and scores a fair few goals then it will soften some fans resolve and they might be more amenable to him returning.

There will still be a few fans such as myself that puts morals over talent and still wouldn't want him back. But by then we would be in the minority.

Likewise if he does well on loan and the club still decide a return isn't in the club's best interests, then he will have increased his value and will maybe allow the club to recoup a bigger fee.

2.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 19:51:15
Nicely put Shappy, quite a few fans divided on this issue, so time and loan could be ideal.

3.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 20:01:59
Is take him back him. If his mrs is happy and has his kid in her belly then there are no issues for him returning.

rubbish happen people do madness and he should be given a chance if he haa sorted his things out with his Mrs.

4.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 20:44:38
Singh, I don't know how much experience you have with victims of domestic abuse but nearly every victim takes back their abuser at least once if not multiple times.

They believe they will change, they believe things will get better. They blame themselves, they believe they are responsible and they don't believe they are worthy of love and respect. They have been broken down and they feel like the abusive relationship is all they are worthy of.

Many have children with their abuser thinking that things will get better with a child around. Often though it makes things significantly worse. It becomes harder to leave the abuser and you will forever be connected to your abuser through the child. Making escape almost impossible.

I certainly wouldn't take the fact that she has taken him back as a sign that things are fine and good between them. That the abuse has stopped and will not happen again.

5.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 21:06:32
Abusers can also change. We don't know if he has admitted he has had a problem or has sort counselling to address his behaviour, I hope that for his sake, his partner and their child he has.

Personnelly I think we have a duty of care to these kids and their families that we pluck from obscurity and shove into the limelight. Cancelling his contract and sending him off to be someone else's problem does not solve anything. I would rather he stayed at United and we work with him to address and change his behaviour.

6.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 21:36:00
If that's the case then its her fault.

Everyone has a brain over their shoulders and if that's the choices you make then you should accept whatever comes along.

{Ed014's Note - you truly are an utter tube with a brain the size of a gnat.

#goodbye

7.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 21:48:18
Now I truely have read it all. Unbelievable.

Just one other perspective. I truely hope she stays in UK with her family and Greenwood flies away on his own in italy and spends some time growing up. I hope we don't end up creating a situation. Where a young girl and her child are isolation in a foreign country miles away from her family support network at risk of who knows what from her fella.

I agree for utd that a loan to italy is the right solution. I hope it is the right move for everyone, and not just the club.

8.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 22:16:06
Loan is a good move, but probably a prelude to maximizing his sale value next year. The club doesn't really give a toss what you or I think, but they do care what the sponsors think, and a loan shunts the decision down the road.

9.) 08 Jul 2023
08 Jul 2023 22:17:03
Grim, that's a fair point. The club do have some responsibility/ duty of care to these young players.

However, that would depend on him genuinely being remorseful and willing to do the work to grow and become a better person. If not then I don't think the club owe him anything.

10.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 00:28:24
Let's see if Greenwood's partner moves abroad with him and how things are in a years time. No point in speculation about if he really is or is not remorseful. His actions will speak loudest and if he had turned over a new leaf then he will ha e earned the right to a fresh start.

11.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 08:00:42
Probably the worst reply I've ever read on this page Singh.

12.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 09:06:23
Thank you admins/ Ed’s for booting that tool off. Possibly the most brain dead comments I’ve read on here.

{Ed014's Note - ??

13.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 12:58:32
There are some great moments of banter and some great comedic comments on these pages, even when people are pushed……. but Singh……. lower than a snakes nuts in a tyre rut!

14.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 13:15:48
Well put KEEFY.

15.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 13:23:39
Good point above about his gf/ wife and the child being away from their family if they move with him. Not a good situation and hopefully united and the other club can help in that regard. I think there seems to be a divide here about greenwood, some who see the talent and others who see what he did (allegedly) but for me I don’t care how talented you are it will never make up for those things if they’re true. Clearly he has a darker side to him and the fear for everyone is when will that show itself again. I hope he changes for his young family’s sake as I’m the end family is the most important thing. I just don’t think I could ever cheer him on in a united shirt, others have a different opinion and that’s fine but that’s just how I feel.

16.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 13:55:00
Totally agree Shap, you don't get unlimited chances in life.

17.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 18:06:55
Wow Singh, one of the worst posts I’ve ever read on here, surprised it was allowed. Unreal some people think like that.

18.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 17:18:37
I've had a post removed from this thread due to using inflammatory language I assume, which I apologise for, but the further comments from that bloke just goes to show what kind of people there are out there . Utterly disgusted.

Well played ed014 for getting rid of that tool ?.

{Ed014's Note - it’s was no problem Deano, no place for him on here.

I didn’t see your post but appreciate the apology. ?

19.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 17:46:46
Good move booting that idiot Ed14. I’m betting you’re from here in N Ireland as I’m pretty sure calling someone a tube is a Norn Iron thing ?.

{Ed014's Note - haha no I’m not mate, sorry to disappoint but he definitely was one!

20.) 09 Jul 2023
09 Jul 2023 19:31:41
Ed014, not everyone can be that lucky ?.

{Ed014's Note - no mate that’s very true! ?

21.) 10 Jul 2023
10 Jul 2023 13:55:10
Looking at my window at the lashing rain I wouldn’t call it too lucky. Typical norn iron in July. Kids are off and the weathers crap. Lol.

22.) 10 Jul 2023
10 Jul 2023 15:06:06
Tim, I’d love to be back in the metropolis of NI mate.