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17 Feb 2013 23:50:51
The next few months in my eyes:
Champions league, FA cup, premier league, GCSEs then to relighted my mood the summer transfer window. It'll be a gooden for sure
Same for me!
17 Feb 2013 22:56:12
Can I ask you then ed, do you believe if a suitable offer came in united would be willing to sell and Rooney would be willing to go? If so do you believe a replacement would be looked at or do you think united already have their replacement at the club?
Trickee {Ed004's Note - I reckon it would have to be a top offer for both player and club but I can't see that sort of offer being offered. However, if, and thats a big IF, he is sold a world class replacement will be sought after, although I cant think of many players I'd want to replace him. Gotze will be world class, Ozil oozes class, you could move RVP back which Im not sure about and move for Falcao or Cavani there are plenty of options.}
I heard juve were thinking of signing him.
and apparently rooney has also said that if juve were interested in him he wouldn't be able to turn down the approach from the old lady.
(i know. it's lame)
JK92
Haha, good one JK92, made me chuckle. In all seriousness though, I don't think anyone would pay what we would want for him, however you never know in a swap deal. Maybe swap him for someone like Vidal, or even someone like Modric plus cash (cash to us from Madrid).
Fresh!
18 Feb 2013 10:08:24
whilst i'm not advocating we do sell him I can see it happening. I think that's the reason we signed van persie, not some huff on this season we'll try to outscore city. The whole contract thing annoyed ferguson and we know how he likes the last laugh. Then there's the weight issues, its not very professional especially for the young lads to see and of course you now have van persie there who's a top professional. His pace has gone, his first touch too, he's not good enough to play midfield despite his delusions. He does still have his workrate and goal scoring though. Like I said I can see the case for him being sold and it could happen especially as contract wise this is a key summer. But I can also see him staying as we have bigger fish to fry this summer - namely the midfield and nani. And just who exactly would we sell him to? It won't be to city or chelsea we're not as daft as arsenal and don't strengthen rivals like they do selling to us and city. So leaves abroad. Wont be dortmund they couldn't afford the fee. Wont be munich as think they other targets. Wont be milan don't need him and might struggle with the fee. Could be juventus but could they do the fee? Wont be barcelona they don't need him. Maybe madrid but do they need him and they have other targets. Paris could afford him. I think their mort likely bidders. As to replacements that's easy with fifty million from him plus whatever we get from nani bid for gotze and lewandowski and we should still have plenty left over to put towards a midfielder and we won't have touched our usual pot which could go on a second midfielder, left back and a couple of kids. Not saying it will happen but it could. MrE
Unless Rooney has a Berbatov-like contract where there is an option to extend by a year, this summer will be pivotal to the rest of Rooney's career. We will not allow him to enter his final two years.
Sydney!
One big thing being overlooked is whether Rooney could adapt to a foreign culture. He is more intelligent than given credit for but whether he could learn a new language and settle abroad. whether his family would want or be able to do likewise. is very very unlikely in my eyes. so that limits his and Utds options if a sale is to be made {Ed007's Note - You blew it with 'he is more intelligent than given credit for'. Think along the lines of a dumbed down Homer Simpson.}
Word of warning for some of the posters wanting rid of Rooney - we once got £80m for our best player. Did we replace him with a ready made, world-class star using much of what we hade made from the Ronny transfer? No, we spent £16m on a player from Wigan.
Just be careful what you wish for peeps! If we sell Rooney for £40m+ I would still be very surprised if we paid more than £20-25m on his replacement, quite possibly less.
Gav
Spud head only worth 20 mil
17 Feb 2013 22:49:31
Literally just spent half an hour looking through the Liverpool page I had never even looked at it before now. Just seen a couple of posts on here that made me want to have a look.
All I can say is. absolutely gas!
Jamal
17 Feb 2013 22:19:58
Guys is henriquez injured because I expected him to have played more for Wigan than he has recently?
Caolán.
He was on the bench today
johndenton
He is 4th choice I think after Di Santo, Kone and one other? He went there primarily as cover for Kone when he went to the AFCON. Now that Kone has returned and they are all fit I think he will find it difficult to get game time TBH. Still a good experience for him at 18 yrs old but would be nice for him to get some games under his belt.
Gav
18 Feb 2013 17:34:08
i think its good experience for him to be on the bench in premier league games rather than the rubbish standard reserve games.
17 Feb 2013 21:55:06
Can I be allowed to make a statement of the (fairly) obvious?
Sometimes a poster (me included) posts a comment (or maybe a reply to someone else's comment) and doesn't get a comeback. We think we have a won a moral victory and the target of our comment has been put to the sword. The wiser amongst you (forgot for a moment who I was talking to) will realise that not ALL posts get put up. So we should all think of that when we go on our smug way. We haven't necessarily 'won the fight'
We might have been protected by a busy (or compassionate) Ed. By the way Disney - I am not singling you out specifically win this post
Puzzled
Your right there Puzzled, i'd imagin there are many occasions where the Ed's have not allowed replies to go through to your posts to protect your delicate mental state. Lol.
Shappy
Shappy - you're getting better (though
there was only one way you could go anyway)
Puzzled
17 Feb 2013 20:13:11
oh my good god, have I really just seen sturridge compared to ronaldo on the scousers page. I laughed so hard I nearly shat my pants. what a crock, and talk about them getting carried away over one win against a team who only had 3 regulars. fickle fickle fickle
17 Feb 2013 20:02:57
BRENDON IS GOD. knew we would find form and get back on to winning track. I must admit I've been slating the team but after todays performance I think in a couple of years it could be a league winning side especially if we keep our very own messi (suarez) and ronaldo (a certain sturridge)
onwards and upwards reds. follow the guru and we can't go wrong! watch this space. One from the scousers page - you really do have to laugh - been round more corners than a greyhound
17 Feb 2013 18:12:33
We have to beat Reading first, we should not get ahead of ourselves. If we do, then it's Chelsea. (sorry Middlesborough but you know. it's unlikely). Well, this is a good draw because: We're at home and it is a chance to knock Chelsea without playing them in Wembley, and it's a bad draw: because it's 5 days after Madrid. But we have to beat the best to be the best, and I'm pretty confident against Chelsea. As I remember a second-string United team almost beating a proper Chelsea team in the Carling Cup.
T-O-I
It would have been nice to get someone like blackburn or burnely. So many big games against tough opposition in a short span of time. City are one lucky bunch when you look at who they have played so far and who they got. Anyway cautiously optimistic we will beat Chelsea.
Shahram
While it would be nice to see us playing the odd lower league team, if only to blood younger players, I personally think the team perform better against better opposition. I also think it creates a momentum and a belief amongst the side, when we win these matches.
Not getting ahead of myself though as Reading won't lie down, but feel they may be more worried about premiership survival and field a team accordingly.
StevieK
17 Feb 2013 18:04:07
What a surprise, we draw another Premier League side.
We will beat Reading, Chelsea and City to lift the trophy.
Sydney!
Poor old Disney! his team getting the short straw again
Puzzled
We will turn them over just like we turned you over at OT and Anfield.
Sydney!
I think we'll get past them. Who would bet against facing City in the FA Cup final on the road to a famous treble!
Fresh!
17 Feb 2013 17:50:43
Sydney, your footballing knowledge is embarrasing wee lad. I am a blooded liverpool fan but give united players credit when its due. You stated because of a bad result midweek in russia liverpool are in a huge decline, wee lad are you on something or are you more obsessed with liverpools fall than man uniteds success? United lose matches in europe and are sometimes played of the park e.g athletico bilbao last season and your excuses are united players were tired when the true reason was that uniteds MF were played of the park because fergie has still yet to replace scholes with a worldclass MF. But we lose on wednesday night and you can't wait to rite lfc are in this s huge' decline, truly your a funny wee lad. A true fan of any team celebrates their own teams success more than of the rivals team loss.
United no doubt are have a great team and manager, but lfc are improving, slowly but surely. If I was a united fan i'd be embarrassed of some of your posts because most fans laugh at your posts whilsts acknowledging other united points which mostly are valid. Stick to posting about unitedbecause they do surprisingly show some footballing knowledge'
Big Al
Syd
that wasnt me either in case your wondering
jred
In fairness anything would be an improvement over the last five games-even a win over a team that has its eye on a big game next week.
pablo
I don't think Sydney came to the conclusion that Liverpool are in a S. t state because of the midweek result!
The fact you are 26 points off the top tells it's own story. You don't need a great deal of football knowledge to see Liverpool are shadow of the great team they used to be.
Just because you have a good result today doesn't change the fact you are still 26 points below.
If you read the Liverpool banter pages on a regular basis you will see most liverpool fans agree.
Liverpool have improved compared to the midweek performance but you need to put in performances like that week in week out not 1 in every 5 games.
Marky Mark
Big Al you should really refrain from posting after having a couple of beers. How many times can a man refer to someone else as 'wee lad' in one post?
You say Sydney shouldn't be talking about Liverpool as he is a United fan and yet you're (a Liverpool fan) the one over here on the United page. Now, you're more than welcome on here but you can't have it both ways.
TK-Red
The amount of times you call Syd "wee lad" plus calling yourself Big Al tells me that you might have a wee problem that you're trying to compensate for.
Danny Pughnited
Says the Liverpool fan on the United page. Al, Liverpool are a mess and are still in massive decline whether you like to believe it or not. A win today means nothing, look at the table, you are nearly thirty points behind us and that gap will keep increasing. You are out of the cups and you are about to be knocked out of the lame Europa League. You are going to lose your only decent player in the summer and only second rate players will join your club, but only when they are offered a sizable signing-on fee. Keep on telling yourself that you are improving, but you are not.
Sydney!
17 Feb 2013 19:53:59
Big al ye are improving every year according to ye but still falling more and more behind points wise so ye obviously no what your talk in about.
Bippo
17 Feb 2013 16:52:50
Ahhh no! Expecting lfc to be posting on here shortly, with how amazing his team is now and how this will be the team that can challenge for the title next year. Yip next year is their year;)
Nik Legend SA
Of course today's win will propel them to the league title next year just as City's win over 'no wins in 5' Leeds will give them the mental edge in this seasons title race.
TK-Red
17 Feb 2013 16:39:53
Howard Webb has given more penalties to Liverpool than he has to us this season. The guy is clearly in Fergie's pocket.
TK-Red
Well technically the two today were both flagged by the linesmen.
Red Rat
17 Feb 2013 16:19:38
Shame Henriquez is on the bench for Wigan's cup game.
wanted to see him have a full run-out.
lets hope he gets 30 mins at the end of the game.
oxred
17 Feb 2013 16:13:56
Whilst bored to death today with the football on display, I am having a fabulous day on the betting front with all bets so far coming in ad even picked the Scousers to win by 2.
Shahram
Well have a accumulator 6 going with the first 4 in and United and Real pending. Scousers played well today and made me some money:)
Shahram
Is there any indian here who bets and is it legal in india.
17 Feb 2013 14:46:53
Completly random here, but I wonder if Scholes would consider giving his youth team Oldham a season before he retires. I think it would be nice for them and him to finish off his career.
Fresh!
Fresh, why? Why would one of the most gifted players of his generation drop to the 3rd tier - I really can't see any merit in it at all.
AJH
Because he grew up sopporting Oldham that's why
Stagmufc
I think he has said in the past he could end his career at oldham
jred
He has also ruled it out before so I wouldn't expect him to go to Oldham. It would be a nice thing to do though.
Sydney!
It might not be the most glamorous of send offs for one of his generations greats. But I'm sure he and Oldham would love it, he would get a full season and then can concentrate on his coaching badges.
Fresh!
My late uncle michael walsh was manager of boundary park juniors and had scholsey gary and phil neville and nicky butt in his team as 12year olds before they moved to old trafford
johndenton
17 Feb 2013 13:58:38
Lads, I don't mean to make light of Nani's Car crash but when I heard the news I was fully expecting a wall (four man) to be involved.
BornInToIt
Well if his driving is like his crossing i'm guessing he hit the first man
Chris the REDman
Chris, I know having Nani in the box for a corner holds no real value, but how he remained on corner kick duty for so long will remain one of the greatest footballing mysterious.
BornInToIt
17 Feb 2013 13:19:44
quite interesting to see that a lot of the English media who have always been his biggest supporter and creators of most of the hype surrounding him are now starting to say that we have already seen the best of the Spud faced nipper and he will never reach his potential. I have been slaughtered on these pages for the last year or so for saying the exact same thing. I do feel that now RVP has stepped into the role of goal machine and shown the touch of a world class player young Wayne looks a bit lost and as if his nose has been put out of place. Maybe he got that massive contract that he held us to ransom for and thought he was untouchable. He certainly started this season a good stone over weight which didn't impress Sir Alex or any one else who was at Goodison to see him plodding around. He now has the perfect opportunity to shoot me and all the other doubters down. We have some massive games coming up and he needs to step up to the plate and grab these games by the scruff of the neck like he used to and not just let them run past him like he did on Wednesday. At 19 you had every right to speak about the boy in the same breath as Messi and Ronaldo but now if you did people would just laugh at you. Who is to blame? that's a mystery maybe his build maybe the injuries or maybe he just burnt out. I make no secret of the fact that I don't like what he did to the club and where he was going to but on the other side I have met the lad several times and he has always been very nice. I sincerely hope he proves me wrong and makes me look foolish for ever doubting him but sadly I feel we have seen the best of the boy and now it seems that the media is waking up to it. I AM KLOOT
I think as you he lost his pace and does not have any else to offer he has the will but not the skill
17 Feb 2013 14:07:38
Ive never been a fan of his. For people to say he is one of the top 3 players is laughable. He isn't even in the top 10 for me.
He is the only player I would like to see the bacl of.
Whistler. {Ed004's Note - The problem is who will pay the sort of fee united will be looking for?}
Tbh honest KLOOT he could score a goal every game till the end of the season and you would still keep to your opinion.
U say you have been slaughtered on these pages for suggesting that? When? people have there own opinions on rooney and I think they disagree with ure CONSTANT wazza bashing even when he has a great game, I dnt think I have ever seen a positive post from you about him and doubt I will.
I think the press are now suggesting this because of our lead at the top and without united on the back pages there's no stories to read really, dnt get me wrong he hasn't been worldclass this season but it was only last season he carried us in long periods of the season to just miss out on the title, last I knew us united fans get behind there players when they have a off season and support them through thick and thin, but then I guess he has been our only player to ever demand more money when in a strong position at the club, you would never see any1 else do that would u??
Chris the REDman
No one I don't think Ed. Madrid maybe, Barca ceratainly not, City maybe. I still think he is well worth having here.
Fresh!
KLOOT
I have no problem with poster's voicing their opinion that Rooney has not reached the level expected of him, or that he is in bad form, or even that we should consider moving him on. All points which could be seen as valid to crtain extents.
Personally, I've only ever spoke out against your Rooney posts when you've singled him out for unfair critisism. You've told us all that you count his misspasses at games which implies some kind of vendetta and may cause you to miss a few other things that happen on the pitch. Also, when we do see a top Rooney performance (e. g. v City) you fail to recognise his input. In fact you still critisize him! That is my only problem with your posts on Rooney, I think you're being a bit precious coming on here saying 'I have been slaughtered on these pages. ' when your posts on him have been generally overly-harsh and damning, even resorting to abuse. Plenty other posters put together reasoned views on Rooney without resorting to the abuse and blinkered critisism.
Actually, this post is one of your more reasonable regarding this player, and I do agree with a lot of it! Wayne needs to step up between now and the summer. But at the same time I will continue to value the crucial goals (City, Fulham) and assists he has got whilst not being in top form.
Gav
In United's last 10 games in the knock out stages of the CL, rooney has scored 8 goals got 34 goals only last year
Short memories
Z
I strongly believe we have seen the best of Rooney, still offers a lot, but you can see he is slowing down. Two years left on his contract, 27 and slowing down. Probably a good time to sell him if selling him is on the cards. Or will he move to midfield? Personally I think we need a better midfielder.
Sydney!
He's not played well this season, but I would rather have him in my team. Trust me, he'll decide a few games for us this season.
Nomidfield
He can still play up top had a good game only the other week for England
It's just the same people who give him a hard time week after week
Some think unless he's amazing he must if had a bad game
Can't remember people slating him at the end of the last season let's Waite and judge at the end if the season
Z
Ed004, I imagine PSG would sign him if he was made available. But if we did accept an offer for Rooney the club would need to sign a player of star quality. Someone like Lewandowski could replace RvP as main striker, RvP would play just behind him & Rodriguez to the left perhaps.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - But there is a huge risk of moving RVP into a deeper position. Would you risk him not getting as many goals?}
Z, is that you Jred?
Sydney ;)
Sure not I've said my bit on rooney, think his performance against madrid has been blown way over the top, striker playing left mid asked for tactical reasons to do a defensive job, enough said for me
just look at the post's above same people saying the same thing no matter how he plays, so no point discussing it people have made there minds up
jred
Ed004, I wouldn't have him playing as deep as Rooney does, Rooney is practically a midfielder at times. I would keep RvP up top, just not as forward as Lewandowski.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I'm not sure RVP could play there. Especially if we start pressing teams he will have to do a lot more running}
Looks like Rainfish can evaluate Rooney's and Cleverley's performance better than most of you. Or is he the only honest poster from your place?
Puzzled
RVP practically plays there anyway. He would only have to do more running if we expected him to drop back help out like Rooney does but if we sort the central midfield out then that would not be as much of an issue.
TK-Red
Jred, no offence mate, but this 'played out of position' argument annoys the hell out of me.
Where he plays on the pitch should have no bearing whatsoever on not being able to control a football and pass it correctly to someone wearing the same coloured shirt. These are basics that any decent Premier League player should be adept at, never mind someone touted as 'world class'.
The other argument that 'he puts a good shift in', also grates. I could run around the pitch for 90 minutes, well maybe a few years ago, but I don't consider myself a 'world-class' footballer. all it proves is he has a lot of stamina. Like I said before, if he wants to be considered one of the top players, he has to bring something more to the table than running around a lot.
Having said all that, an in-form Rooney is still an asset to the club - it just seems that the days he shows this form are getting fewer and fewer.
StevieK
If Rooney is sold then we have the perfect replacement in Kagawa. With transfers, a front 4 or RVP, Kagawa, Rodriguez & Valencia would work very well. However I fancy that we would try very hard to get someone like Gotze/Ozil/ or someone of that ilk to replace Rooney. Still think he's going nowhere though. He will be given a one year extension in summer.
Fresh!
Fresh, why would he be given a one-year extension and why would he accept that? He will be given a longer extension or will not be offered one at all.
Sydney!
Ed004, he has played there many times for Arsenal. He is very tidy outside the box, has a great long shot and would still get in the box.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I would just worry he will not be where he is at his best. The only way I'd consider moving him would be if we got someone like Falcao to play up top with him. A predator if you like, someone that will like RVP score every game type of thing. But with RVP do you think he is quick enough and good enough a passer to unlock a defence along with having the stamina and speed to pick up a marker like Rooney occasionally has to do. Rooney usually sits on the other teams playmaker in games}
17 Feb 2013 10:25:14
I don't know whether anyone else has the same problem but it took me ages to find your site this morning. My own fault though, I was looking for the 'van Persie United' page - didn't realise it was still under the old name
Puzzled
You and lfc really are doing your best to dispel the myth that scousers have a good sense of humour.
TK-Red
If we were a one man team wouldn't Arsenal have won the league for the last 10 years? person.
GDS
I was hoping for an in debt analysis of your FA Cup performance :)
Shahram
17 Feb 2013 12:53:03
I found it a piece of cake, it was just under the Saurezpool page. Soz Puzzled but you did leave yourself wide open for that one!
Stoner
17 Feb 2013 12:57:10
Oops. I'll get my coat!
Stoner
You seem to own some kind of 'random banter generator' which I think must be broken as it spouts out the same old waffle every week or so!
'One man team'
'Biased referees'
'Were doomed when SAF retires'
'Liverpool will catch united NEXT SEASON' (my personal favourite!)
You keep spouting the same old, same old and we'll keep winning major trophies! ; )
Gav
P. S. must be like Groundhog day in your house every day -
1. wake up
2. realise it wasn't a nightmare you were having about Liverpool's current state
3. pick one of the above 'banter' topics
4. come on the United site to show your ongoing jealousy/inferiority
5. off to bed to dream that Liverpool have sorted out their sh!t by the time you wake up in the morning
- then repeat over and over -
Stoner,
More like the Suarezpool page was way under ours ;)
AvidDevil
29 nine points and counting under ours.
DodgyBanter
WOW how are we plain mortals expected to compare to that level of banter?
Chris the REDman