Manchester United Banter Archive July 18 2015

18 Jul 2015 20:29:53
This Romero rumour could have some legs to it if we are going to get Otamendi. They formed part of the Argentine back line and they will know each other well so they could help each other settle and even help Rojo and ADM improve.

I don't know how much this plays a factor when picking targets so I was hoping an Ed could enlighten me? cheers

{Ed007's Note - It'll not be a mega important factor but clubs will always want players to settle in as early and as best they can and if they have friends or ex-team mates already at a club then it'll obviously help.}

18 Jul 2015 22:25:48
Cheers Ed, I know that Mata and Hererra get on well and you can see it on the pitch too. Hopefully Lewandowski can do the same with Bastian!

18 Jul 2015 15:22:48
"With Casilla's arrival we have more competition and we are happy. The keepers that have we are sufficient and have enough quality."
-Rafa Benitez
Mind games or DDG truly staying??

18 Jul 2015 16:12:54
For the season I would guess yes, rather have him in goal giving 100% so he can cement his spot as Spain's keeper for the Euros next summer, and then let him go on a free, personally.

18 Jul 2015 16:38:51
Yup! I would keep him too . Better get one more season of DDG instead of 20m. P.S there is still a chance (minimum though) he may sign a new contract.

18 Jul 2015 18:51:39
Mind games with LVG he can forget it he taught Jose remember

18 Jul 2015 21:06:42
we either replace him now or next year.
why wait , start building for the future now

18 Jul 2015 23:44:04
We should wait because we will have enough change this summer without adding a new GK. There is no one better than him that is available, so another year of the best we can get is a no brainer. He will be playing at his best to ensure he is Spain's number 1 at the Euros. Next summer, with less changes needed we can get a new GK.

19 Jul 2015 03:11:24
Let's give ddg more credit Brendan, I am hearing he will play at his best because of the euros a lot, do you not think he will play at his best because he respects the club and because he wants to be the best he can be? He not going let more goals in just because it's the last year of his deal, he will be professional and will work hard, at his best he is the best goalkeeper in the world, let's hope he proves it next season.

19 Jul 2015 08:13:13
I agree to a point gds, but sometimes you can subconsciously turn off a little, even if just very very slightly. The Euros will just ensure that tiny possibility doesn't happen.

19 Jul 2015 09:52:31
he will also sign for a new club in jan .
its asking for trouble imo and will put a lot of pressure on the lad.
having a keeper that doesn't really want to be there and knows he is leaving isn't a great situation .
it won't be easy getting a top keeper this year or next but i would bite the bullet.

19 Jul 2015 14:34:49
Not as much pressure as he will get at Real, the first time he concedes a poor goal, and they get their snotty hankies out:-)

19 Jul 2015 16:15:52
thats not our problem

19 Jul 2015 17:54:45
Not saying it is, but if he can't hack playing another year here without the pressure affecting him, then a Real move will be a disaster. I'm pretty sure he'll be fine next season, after that who cares. He needs to stay for a season, then go where he likes, and we'll get the best available keeper. The keepers available next season will be the same as this no doubt, so keep the best around for 1 more year.

18 Jul 2015 14:00:21
Guys I apologize for any negativity caused by the De Gea comment! The season has started and there's no excuse to be any negative because what a load of talent we have at our hand.
How impressive was Perreira! I hope LVG gives him chance to make his mark.

About Pedro possibly being tried, I think he is quite versatile, with great speed dribbling and finishing he will be a great asset to out attack.

Otamendi is closing in hopefully too. What a season ahead its going to be!

18 Jul 2015 15:46:22
I think a lot of young players need to get a chance now. I think we have let a lot of academy players move on recently. Would be great to see some of them in the team and under LVG hopefully make themselves regulars in the first team. I hope we get 4-5 players in and around that first team so that they can grow. My picks would be Januzaj, Perriera, Wilson, Johnston, Lingard. Nothing gives young players more confidence than playing regulary. Who know maybe we have got Kanes or Stones in our academy players.

18 Jul 2015 17:24:15
Pedro could be the right winger we need

18 Jul 2015 13:08:55
Just watched the game on MUTV.
Thought I'd give my take on it and see what you guys thought.
1st half - I thought the young goalkeeper did extremely well. Big step up from Preston but I'm sure he was on a high from their promotion.
Darmian impressed me a lot as well was good going forward and steady at the back. An improvement on what we had for sure.
Schneiderlin was good patrolling the middle of the park a massive presence and not scared to get stuck in. And of course scored a very good header for us.
Memphis had a good game. Some nice touches, looked dangerous and looks like he will be a very good signing for us.
I'm not sure about Blind playing as a centre back, he seriously lacks pace. Also Mata at RW is a concern for me. He is better in the middle. Would have been good to see him and Memphis swapping every now and again.
Second half - McNair was brilliant at RB, didn't realise he could play there but being versatile is a trait LVG likes. Was very good at getting forward and created a couple of chances for us.
Scweinsteiger! Was just awesome seeing him in a United shirt. Showed his class. I think his experience and leadership will be very important for us.
Herrera just oozes class. He has to be in the team. So good at keeping the ball and moving it quickly. Definitely had the greatest impact out of all the signings from last season.
Pereira looks like a little gem. Would like to see him get more game time next season. Always looked dangerous going forward. Good on the ball. Also worked hard for the team and tracked back and got stuck in.
I thought it was a tough game for us. They were a strong, quick team and it was a good result.
I know it's the first game of the season but I'd like to see more from Shaw and Januzaj this season.

On a separate not I think we are only going to look at a CB and ST only a GK if De Gea leaves.

Cheers.

18 Jul 2015 14:25:59
Good report, Dale. 1st half all the new signings showed promise. We played 3-4-3 with Depay and Mata playing off Rooney. Darmian looked intelligent at RB, Depay showed confidence and a few flashes. For a young player like him, it is better to see ambitious mistakes in his passes than nervous mistakes. But Schneiderlin, by far, as you said, shows a huge presence in the middle. He will make a real difference this season.

At GK, Johnstone did well coming out, and grew in confidence, though his distribution was hesitant and labored.

Second half, 4-4-2. Schweinsteiger looked a captain from the first minute, and had a good understanding with Herrera. On the left side, Blackett was all over the place positionally. Pereira at LM was good on the ball, and put a few good crosses in, though I would like to see him take his man one on one. The right side was more fluid with McNair getting forward and working well with Lingard. McNaIr really knows how to play, I hope to see him keep developing this year.

Wilson and Januzaj were both a little frustrating up front. I love Wilson's speed and work rate, but too many plays just don't quite come off. Januzaj shows his ability at times, but then looks quite soft. One play comes to mind where Pereira put in a perfect cross at chest height and Januzaj stuck his toe at it and missed rather than attacking it with his head. Too often he still plays more like a boy than a man.

Fellaini and Valencia did not play yet, and neither did one David de Gea.

18 Jul 2015 16:50:41
Wilson needs to vary his speed. He's always moving at 100% making no adjustment for the play around him.

Evans showed why we should transfer him. His problem is that he makes poor choices.

Agreed about Blackett. He seems to have regressed after a promising debut last season.

18 Jul 2015 12:49:19
For all the fans who were frustated because of today's game and doubt quality of our squad. I suggest u to wait for the game against spurs and judge then. No matter how well or poor we play in this champions cup, I will judge our team only during league game. I know how hard it will be to bring fluency in the game with new players. Let's wait for the league to begin and we can judge how fair we play.

18 Jul 2015 13:43:08
That sounds to sensible for some posters on here! I will give it ten games before I start to analyze anything. Pre season is nothing to go on, look at the teams from last years competition.

18 Jul 2015 14:26:50
One thing Fellaini is particularly good at is marking players and he may play those european games that require a certain player to be marked or those were the affairs are cagey, and probably the teams that lack height(europe) he could be a massive weapon to have.

18 Jul 2015 12:09:19
Don't know about anyone else, but the highlight of the game for me, was the thrill of seeing Bastian on the pitch in a Utd shirt.

18 Jul 2015 12:28:50
Same mate, one of the reasons I pinned my eyes open for 90 minutes at 4am, loved seeing him on the pitch for us.

18 Jul 2015 12:51:50
I still can't believe he is wearing our jersey :)

18 Jul 2015 13:28:16
It was great to see! The game is just effortless to him. I know it was a pre season game, but they didn't hold back and it was his first 45 minutes in a while, class!

18 Jul 2015 10:37:44
Shneiderlin up and running, congrats and periera given time-watch this boy go, pure class

18 Jul 2015 09:28:56
So LVG says we could be surprised by signing a striker before the window shuts - let the guessing begin

18 Jul 2015 09:41:34
Does that mean all our guesses so far are off? No Lewandowski, Benzema, Muller, Kane or Cavani?

Some completely different striker?

18 Jul 2015 10:46:49
Pedro.

18 Jul 2015 10:49:58
I am hoping for Lewandowski and perhaps the surprise is that Munich would sell after already selling Schweinsteiger?

18 Jul 2015 11:02:10
Fresh is off his meds again. Pedro never has and never will be a striker.

18 Jul 2015 11:09:50
barahino

18 Jul 2015 11:55:44
He said forward not striker it could be pedro

18 Jul 2015 12:02:59
Well, he's hardly going to say it's not an exciting signing or we won't be surprised is he.

My money is still on Kane.

18 Jul 2015 13:03:25
Resceldani

18 Jul 2015 13:19:35
Wolfburg's Bas Dost could be the surprise forward LVG signs.

19 Jul 2015 08:35:08
Eric Cantona, now that would be a surprise!! He needs the training for his English Channel Swim haha

18 Jul 2015 07:52:36
A couple of questions for you all.
1. LVG has made the statement that he may bring a surprise addition to the forward line. Coukd this be a youngster we ate nOT talking about or an older head with year or 2 left?
2. If Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin cement there place in midfield could we see Carrick make a permanent move into central defence? I only see this happening if we don't buy a top CD.
Any thoughts?

18 Jul 2015 08:04:29
Hopefully one of Lacazette, Mitrovic or Kenedy for the youngster or one of Lewandowski, Benzema or Cavani for the older players.

Not sure Carrick in defence is a statement of hunger for championships

18 Jul 2015 08:13:27
Peeboaiy i might have got this wrong but believe chelsea might have signed kenedy.

18 Jul 2015 08:13:37
I think we will buy a striker.
P.S Carrick is 34. He won't be starting every game and certainly not in CB. He will rotate and that will be better considering he can give 100% in one match rather than half in two games

18 Jul 2015 09:58:45
BRM just checked. you are right. any of ther two will do for me.

18 Jul 2015 10:34:37
i think its ibrahimovic

18 Jul 2015 07:08:32
i know people going to call me negative but reality tell me after watching the game how many of u feel we will win the league even if we get a cb and st. playing mata out wide and depay in center with slow possession game . its pre season r not we should be playing with higher tempo . let's just hope we improve i don't want a season again hope on fellani .

18 Jul 2015 07:26:08
Stop with all the negative vibes man it was a decent start with more to come

18 Jul 2015 07:28:16
Yes, you're right. We're doomed. We should sell depay already. He looked terrible. Schneiderlin is the new fellaini.

18 Jul 2015 07:31:27
Of course we'll improve it was the 1st pre season game. What was you expecting? Relax

18 Jul 2015 07:41:12
Swill, I don't think you are negative. Idiotic perhaps? This is the 1st pre season game with players trying to build up fitness. We also changed all 11 players at half time. re,ember last year when we won pretty much all our pre season games? It didn't really represent our season did it? I don't think we will win the league this year as we have too many new players to integrate and that will take time. however, everyone we have bought will improve our team and I don't think we have finished yet. You need to chill out mate and enjoy the ride, but if you are hoping we win the league I fear you will be disappointed

18 Jul 2015 08:00:02
OH MY GOD! WE ARE GETTING RELEGATED. SKYBET FOOTBALL!

18 Jul 2015 08:11:50
Sack LVG
Sack Eddie Woodward
Sell Depay
Sell Darmian

We are DOOMED


I thought we played pretty well tbh
Shocking pitch and nobody wanted to get injured

18 Jul 2015 08:13:12
i never said we get relegated i said we won't win the league all the excuses of our 1st pre season match is just pure excuses we where poor for most of the match u people just don't want to accept it if u ok with passing the ball back to keeper and hit a long ball its fine but for me we r man utd we should be playing with more freedom more passion . some one make me understand why play depay in hole and play mata out wide i may be idotic u guys r genius explain let's go by stats too how many assist did depay had last season play him in his best position he will perform .

18 Jul 2015 08:19:55
These games are about making money, improving fitness and bonding with team mates. Let's see the progression over the next three games before pressing the headless chicken button.

18 Jul 2015 08:21:40
AJh even tats what i m saying don't think we will win the league when i said i was mentioning to people who r keep saying we just cb and st away to win the league .but the reason u giving is just one part r u really happy the style of our play . i be happy if we finish 3rd r challenge for the tittle but the style of our play should change

18 Jul 2015 08:58:05
Do you really need to post in text speak? Really hard to read.

Early morning grump.

18 Jul 2015 09:10:57
oh god i m not saying we should sack anyone r we get RELEGATED r we should sell depay all i m saying we should improve our game this not good enough we have to play spurs and play off next month . its easy to see all the good stuff and forget what mistake we make unless we see the mistake we can't improve tats my point . we got depay who played has lw and mata who is best in hole why play out of position if we 4 2 3 1 . let's play the players in best position so they can carry the confidence in to the season . don't u think we should discuss our fault just like we discuss our plus . i m sorry tats wat i feel

18 Jul 2015 09:26:55
I am sorry dwill but you're basing the outcome of the coming season on our FIRST PRE SEASON money spinning game.

18 Jul 2015 09:28:21
Come on Mort, you need to get down wid da kidz

18 Jul 2015 09:41:41
Arsenal won their pre season game 4 nil and akpom got a hat trick. i'm predicting arsenal win the league and akpom top goalscorer. *Logs on to well known betting site

18 Jul 2015 10:03:39
DWILL - take a chill pill. Its just the first match of preseason. A training match at best. Give it a few more matches. I, personally am looking forward to how we line up against PSG and Barca

18 Jul 2015 11:01:36
Haha this is the most nonsense I've seen on here for a while. we actually played pretty well for a first pre season game, I watched the match and enjoyed seeing ALL 4 new players play well and also a cameo from pereira in the 2nd half and johnstone who looked great, then I go to sleep wake up and have to read this tripe.

Beast is negative but at least he speaks in English and backs up his points, Dwill, are you going to be like this all season, this site depressed me last year when people were complaining so much even after victories, if you are complaining after the 1st game of pre season when we changed all 11 players and nobody has had a game for 2 months then I'm not sure watching united is for you.

18 Jul 2015 14:24:17
I don't know what's more funny Dwillyou overreacting about our seasons hopes based on one pre season game or overreacting at the posters replies about you being so doom and gloom

Last season proved you take the pre seasons results with a pinch of salt. Realistically the time to judge whether we are able to contest for the title will be after 6-10 games in the season where we can actually see where we stand compared to chelsea and city/arsenal

And with regards to depay i think the reasoning behind playing him behind the striker is that it adds real unpredictability to his game as he can take defenders both left and right and gives us a direct option to goal

18 Jul 2015 03:09:59
So, who's up watching?

17 Jul 2015 22:36:41
I am glad its weekend, hoping we do better than last weekends efforts on the signings - very ordinary effort - pull your finger out Woody!

Looking forward to seeing the boys tomorrow morning.

Interesting LVG confirming AT LEAST 2 more positions need addressing for squad balance.

Safe bet - keeper and central defender
Value bet - keeper, central defender and CF
Punt bet - central defender, RW and CF
Woody Special - 2 x CD, RW and CF plus keeper

18 Jul 2015 01:04:34
Right here goes. I know not everyone will agree but o think ddg owes us
If we cast our minds back to his first season he cost a lot of money cost us a lot pf goals and points we lost the league on gd
I would have no problem with that if he was willing to put something back in for the faith showed
Goalkeeper s have long career s he has time to fulfil his ambition elsewhere and should do what he thinks is best for himself and his family.
But my own pride in my work wouldn't allow me to walk away from an employer gave me such a huge chance to become what I am
I know it doesn't work like that but one more season (in which we could be contenders an he could tip the balance) singe a short contract so as utd don't get there pants pulled down and off with you np hard feelings
Like is anyone fed up with rvp. No because whatever he did or didn't do in that one season heade a difference

18 Jul 2015 06:44:01
I thought we had done this one to death. He has a contract, he plays for us, we pay him. You could argue without DDG we wouldn't have finished 4th last year. You could also argue that if my auntie had balls she would be my uncle. As we have just seen with Delph, there are very few players who behave the way you are suggesting. How many players are du led unceremoniously by their clubs, it's a 2 way street and players know this. I don't think DDh owes us anything. We bought him, when his contract is up is free to leave, or we can sell him now.

18 Jul 2015 07:43:00
Wow, so many typos, my fot fungers are not working too well this morning