Manchester United Banter Archive August 26 2012
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26 Aug 2012 21:02:32
Hi Guys
I fully expect that what Fergies says goes in terms of no more signings in this window.After seeing yesterday's game Dembele is a must.I thought Feillani was impressive on Monday but Dembele looked the dogs bo**ocks.If we do sell anyone this week I would urge Fergie to go all out for Dembele.Eds do you think there is any chance of us getting him.
Bazza The Red {Ed004's Note - I think we bid earlier in the summer so hopefully}
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For your info,dembele we don't need.if we need any player is a traditional defensive midfielder,not a CM.and dembele is a CM.don't criticise our midfield,they are still young and playing good football.dembele or some other players mentioned play for average teams.its a different situation playing for man U.in their teams,they are d star man.its not easy to carry that same status to a big team like united especially wit d great expection bcos u would always be demanded to perform notin less.
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Disagree with your post entirely. How about when we signed Rooney from a 'leaser' team, didn't fair too badly did he??
GDS
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If you honestly think our midfield is good enough no name then you are deluded, dembele would be an excellent addition to the midfield he showed on Saturday that he would get into most top teams midfield. He may not be a defensive midfielder but he tracks back is strong fast and has a good pass on him having a midfielder who is good at everything you can't really complain.
Personally hoping we do bid for him this week love to see someone like him along side cleverly.
Dwright
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26 Aug 2012 22:04:34
Oh hasn't it just been a great weekend!
Had my Birthday on saturday, United won and now my beloved Getafe have just beaten Real Madrid! :D.
Oh happy days!
Hearing a strong Rumour that we're taking a serious look at Muniain...I have a feeling that Nani will be off over the next 12 months and this lad will come in providing he progresses the way he has been the last 2 years.
The Moon. {Ed004's Note - I have seen Muniain play a lot but I have never seen him play right wing for a game. Surely if he was signed that is were we will need him to play}
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Jesus, I hope this is true.
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That was my first thought Ed, but then I thought that at the moment Nani plays both and Young mainly stays on the left but seeing as he is right footed could he not move between both wings and Muniain stay on the left?
he'd certainly fit into our way of playing and I'm sure he'll be a fan favourite with his work rate.
The rumours that I've heard though all depend on Nani...I expect Nani to stay until the summer so I'm expecting Muniain to be signed next summer if at all...
The Moon. {Ed004's Note - I personally think if we signed Muniain and sold Nani along with Berbatov and Macheda and brought in Dembele we would have one hell of a team. A front 4 of Kagawa, Muniain, Rooney, and RVP would be unreal. The movement, work rate and speed of that attack is hazardous. Along with Dembele and Cleverley who are extremely hard workers in midfield}
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Ed
I would be happy with Dembele and Muniain, even happier with Martinez and Muniain
Our stubborn manager could be an issue however
Red Man {Ed004's Note - Yes I agree. Martinez would be an awesome signing}
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Ed
I was talking to one or two who sit around at the ground and we agreed Martinez would make us serious challengers in Europe let alone the PL. Martinez and Muniain would take us to another level altogether. We all find it hard to believe no one in the heirarchy at OT cannot see this
Red Man {Ed004's Note - It is blatantly obvious and that is what worries me is that we haven't addressed it yet. Maybe Fergie see's something in Tuncliffe, Powell or Petrucci?}
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I see something in Tunnicliffe, Powell and Petrucci but I was around when they saw something in McIlroy and then Andy Ritchie. I actually think Lingard has something as well but the level needed to match the top teams is very high indeed. Petrucci interests me but the level is very high, can he really make it? Muniain is already there for me
Red Man
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Muniain is different class. A step above Nani already. He would be well worth the 30m.
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Red Man Sammy was a wonderful player and Andy was never given the chance he should of. He scored goals for fun but thanks for taking me back there. I AM KLOOT
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Here Red Man!
Lay off big Sammy Mac! That is all.
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I wrote a post few days ago and said Rooney and nani for 75 mill and muniain,falcon,dembele/Martinez in. Now someone please convince me Rooney is better than falcon, muniain is the next superstar in world football. He is 19 believe it or not and can play against any team at the highest level today. We would beat everyone in Europe and pl,scary team
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26 Aug 2012 20:44:02
sydney
theres no way on earth rooney is anywher close to being on the same level as iniesta, he his miles infront of rooney im affraid. i rate rooney on his day as one of the best, but iniesta never seems to have an off day, rooney will always be a level behind him.
vinny
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I agree Iniesta is consistently better than Rooney. But they play in different positions do not forget.
Sydney!
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26 Aug 2012 20:31:03
Here is my valuation of Wayne Rooney in my opinion.
Nobody can question the ability he has but how long can he keep it going for till his performances dip. Wayne is one of those players when on his day he is unplayable and the best in the Premier League. Arguably the greatest English player since the Premier League began. My issue is I don't think he is going to be at his prime for much longer, unlike other world class players when they start to hit their prime around 26-28 I think Wayne has already surpassed his peak and their is only one way to go from now till the end of his career and that is backwards.
I think we could maybe get another solid season out of Wayne this year but maybe next year is the time to let him go. At the age of 27 we will have had 7-8 terrific years from Wayne and it could be possible we rake in as much as possible close to £50 million for him and look to replace him. If not his price tag will only go down from their.
Look at Kaka prime example yes injuries played apart, but at the time he was in his prime Milan knew it would not last much longer. Sold him for £50 million just 4 seasons ago and now look, on the verge of leaving for less than £10 million.
RedKnight
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Who is looking for the argument now, our post both talk about the same things only yours is more intricate about Wayne Rooney
Meggzie1992
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26 Aug 2012 21:10:18
we want a defensive mid if we dont sign one well we will stick to watching the edgy manchester who cant finish a game and leave us with no nails. i would rather martinez then dembele because he is more defensive and we have kagawa for the driving runs
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26 Aug 2012 20:17:07
I have seen numerous posts saying if Nani is sold then they want a centre midfielder bought in... So you want Young starting out wide every game?
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Well I have said for sometime we need a CM and a Nani replacement.
I watched Isco a few nights ago and he looked like he had potential.
There are two things I can't understand, why have we chased players like Hazard and Moura all summer but just stopped. Obviously to replace Nani but why stop. Secondly why has our central midfield been allowed to fall into such disrepair
Red Man
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26 Aug 2012 20:16:23
I think there is a good chance Rooney will be sold next summer, but that doesn't mean he will. It's just my opinion. Rooney will have two years left on his current deal in the summer and the club will have just two choices, sell him or give him an improved long-term deal. I think it will be the former. If sold I think Lewandowski will replace him man for man.
Life will go on after Rooney, in-fact people will see just how easy life goes on in the next four weeks during his absence. Do not think I am not a fan of Rooney because I am a massive fan, I just believe the club will sell next summer rather than give him another deal. Also at 27 he will be getting to that age where the value will start to dip sharply.
Sydney!
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Iv been saying this a while now, totally agree with you Sydney! To b honest iv think we've had Rooneys best years now, unless he has a super season I have a feeling that Rooney might b locating to Paris next year. I stil think he's class and would love him to carry on, but I'm with you on this one
Big Mac
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Syd, I did a lot of thinking when the whole Rooney wants to leave thing came out. Is it possible that Fergie masterminded this to get the Glazers to pull out the cheque book? I feel that it was all very public and that is usually not our style and it was cleared up very fast. I think that we can look at the evidence of our spending this window that whether it was Fergie or Rooney's doing we have spent a lot this summer. I wouldn't want Rooney to leave he has been one of my favorite players since joining and think he could be a United legend. I know there will be life after him as there has always been at United we will see I think RVP and Kagawa playing good will motivate him back to his best. Only time will tell though.
Darren-Bermuda
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DB, no, I believe we were too lax with Rooney letting his contract run down and the club got shafted by Rooney and his agent. The statement about no ambition was an excuse thought up by his agent so the fans wouldn't get on Rooney's back. I think Gill decided not to give into the player's demands and the manager went along with it until he seen it effecting the team's performances. I will never forget the press conference where the manager was told about things Rooney had said for the first time, then the manager said "That's it, I will put an end to this" this is when I think the manager went above Gill and asked the Glazers to give Rooney a new deal. I also think on some level Rooney never had any intention of leaving, I think he trusted his agent and his agent would have known that United would cave in the end. I think Rooney was over the moon when he was offered a better deal. I also believe the manager was deeply hurt by Rooney's actions and that he will never forget this. The manager will have the last laugh (so to speak). I think he will be flogged next summer. Whatever people think the difficult decision by the club is inevitable next summer. The club will either give him an improved long-term deal or sell him, there is no middle ground. Next summer will be massive for WR one way or another.
Sydney!
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Syd, I doubt that Fergie would come out publicly and say anything negative towards the owners. Which is why I saw the Rooney situation as sort of an outlet to make things public and force their hand. I have always gotten the feeling that Rooney would happily see out his career at United even going as far as coaching. In reference to your point about the press conference wouldn't Fergie have to act surprised and seem angry? I thought it was a bit sudden and cleared up in no time and now all of a sudden we have two top drawer players this season. I think Wayne loves United even how he got injured was throwing his body in the way to help United win. Really I can see him here past his playing career and I expect him to come back from this injury fitter and hungrier than we have seen him in a while. Just a question Syd how many times has Rooney been played injured in the past 2 years? For those slating Rooney saying he is out of form or what not an out of form player scoring 30+ goals and you want to move him on wouldn't you want that monster in form for your team? Seriously guys some of your logic is horrible.
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Just to be clear DB mate, I rate Rooney highly and would love him to sign a new deal, but I do think it's unlikely and I think this will be his final season at the club.
Sydney!
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Regarding Rooney, I'm sorry, but I just can't ever forgive him for the way he acted with his transfer request.
Even my 10 year old son, who used to idolise him, now refuses to have his name on his shirt - told me he'd prefer Giggs or Scholes or Evra, because 'they love Utd'.
Sometimes the simple views of kids sum it up best.
StevieK
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Keane held out for a deal he was worth.
ferdy held out for a deal he was worth.
rooney held out for a deal his was worth.
All these players were worldclass when they negotiated there worldclass wage but could of prob still made more money else where.
rooney prob went about it the wrong way but Keane made it known he would go to juve and ferdy done it on the back of being out for 8 month due to missing a drug test.
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There is a sweet-spot in terms of players' contracts where the options are:
i. a new deal - likely with the player and their agent looking for improved terms
ii. the player is sold prior to going into the '1 year left' scenario where we know players can go for half their 'true' value.
That sweet-spot is 2 years remaining on contracts hence there will be an 'opportunity' to sell Rooney in Summer 2013.
This makes Fergie's signing of RVP an even smarter buy than most have given him credit for thus far. For the first time in many a season we have direct world-class competition, or if needed a replacement, for Rooney's position.
I do think RVP has been purchased to PARTNER Rooney, however we do have the RVP - Kagawa partnership to fall back on as its quite apparent already that Kagawa is most likely going to be an ever-present player this season.
I think 2012/13 will be a pivotal season in Rooney's United career. I hope the signing of RVP and Kagawa and the competition that brings will make Rooney an even better player for us. If he is unfit or has dips in form, just like everyone else in the squad now, he is replaceable. And its that competition for places that can only be a good thing.
I personally believe Rooney and RVP with Kagawa behind will form a very effective strikeforce given time. I think we have 2 potentially golden years with that trio in top form and then a 31yo RVP and a 29yo Rooney, appreciating the comments about his natural fitness, will look to be replaced or phased out.
I think therefore Rooney will be given say a 2 year extension on his current deal but then we would look to cash in on him at age 29/30.
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26 Aug 2012 19:32:48
Great to see Liverpool and City draw, win win situation for me to be honest. When we get out defenders back I think we will be ready to win the title! I can see Jones playing in midfield most this season to compete with the likes of Fellani, Dembele, Toure etc. I can't see any more signings this transfer window, maybe January though.
A lot of people worrying about this season, don't worry it will always turn out good at the end. I can see a 2 way battle between the Manchester clubs again and Chelsea slipping up mid season.
-JakeW
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Ha, didn't you see the game yesterday? I don't think we can survive in that level of battle. The midfielders of both side(city/pool) are all incredible, world class passing accuracy, creativity, ball holding and control. To sum up, a really good game to watch. I can't remember went we have that sort of quality in midfield last time.
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Sorry for a moment there I thought someone mentioned Liverpool and World Class in the same sentence. Our midfield needs an enforcer for sure but get a grip!
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26 Aug 2012 19:09:01
guys, stop dissing rooney! people on here are saying we dont need him this year. he is are best player not rvp not kagawa but him and we do really need him and i for 1 would not like to see him sold
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26 Aug 2012 19:02:38
if nani was to leave for around 25 - 30 million do any of yous think we could get martinez before fridat night
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No, but perhaps Witsel or Dembele.
Sydney!
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Nope could only see us going back in for another winger as a replacement now...
RedKnight
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Sydney
We could get Martinez but it would mean spending more than we spent since Berbatov and there is no proof our owners would invest at that level. Moura and Hazard slipped out of our grasp when we were quoted over £30m
Red Man
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With 25m we could get dembele and isco
wont happen just a suggestion
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Won't get that sort money for him
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Get real. Bayern haven't managed to sign him during protracted efforts covering 6 weeks and you want Utd, a club that are renowned for slow negotiating, to do it in 6 days. Only chance we'd get him us if discussions started weeks ago - and the Eds suggest that's not the case.
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Red Man, that is simply not true is it? We were willing to pay £30m or so for Lucas Moura until PSG's crazy offer. Hazard would have cost us that amount and we wanted him. If the Glazers are willing to spend £24m on a 29 year old with a poor injury record and no resale value, why wouldn't we spend £6m more on a 19/21 year old Moura or Hazard who would have a massive resale value?
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004, couldn't agree more mate. but I would happily take Witsel for Nani. We could live without a Nani with Kags and RVP, but we need a solid midfielder. I could wait a season for another winger, although would prefer one now.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I would love Witsel however it seems Fergie is trying to ensure we have a lot of attacking options and that's why I think if Nani is sold we will buy a replacement. Even if it was someone like Isco who I think would be a top signing for very little. Could be an unreal squad player and has the potential to be a top player.}
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Sydney
I refer you to SAF quotes on the costs of Moura and Hazard
Red Man
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Red Man, I think that was just SAF's sour grapes. The manager/club would have known well in advance that they would both cost £30m+. I do not think the manager/club have any issues paying £30m for a player. We've done it before.
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Yes we have paid over £30m for a player before but not since Berbatov where they got their fingers burnt. I refer you not only to SAFs quotes on how much Moura etc cost but also to the point made about RVP where SAF had to go above senior management to get the deal agreed and that was only £22m. Ultimately the proof as they say is in the pudding and if we want top class like Martinez we have to pay but more than a week before the window closes and with a gaping hole in our midfield SAF pulls the plug. Very frustrating indeed
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Red Man, I'm sorry but SAF having to go to the Glazers is just speculation and you are basing your argument on purely speculation. Lets not forget that. Secondly the player cost between £22m-£24m and when you use that sort of cash on a 29 year old sick-note, you have to get permission from the owners. Just like you would have to at any club.
What makes me laugh is that you have just witnessed the club sign a 29 year old sick-note with zero resale value, who is on mega wages and you still do not believe the club would spend that little bit extra on a 19/21 year old player on a lower salary with a huge resale value. You are clutching at straws again.
It's getting boring now Red Man, if the manager wants £30m for a Hazard or Lucas, then he would get it. Surely spending £100m+ (net) in the last two summers would convince you that the club are not as hard up as you and a few others make out we are? Of course we will rarely pay over the odds for a player, but I think that is more to do with our manager than the owners.
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26 Aug 2012 18:56:16
Anyone else thinking Rooney's injury might be a blessing in disguise for us?
Might finally prove we dont really need him in our team, Seems he was always guaranteed a starting berth in our team. but now that he is out for a few weeks it may give us time to see how well the team works with Kagawa and RVP providing the fire power! interesting few weeks ahead i think.
Will Nani be sold? I dont know, IMO i dont think it would be wise to sell him just yet. He will be reaching maturity soon as a player and may prove valuable as a sale or as a player if he starts being more consistent. next year she will be in the final year of his contract, he has stated he wants to stay at United and will lower his wages but i think Fergie wants him to up his game or he will be off.
Dembele in. Sure why not, Showed everything he has got yesterday and it is what our midfield is crying out for. Would be cheaper then fellaini and has prem experience to boot.
Dont think this point has been covered yet but has been bothering me for awhile.
Does anyone else notice we seemingly only have one consistent winger in Toni V. Dont get me wrong when Young and Nani are on form the are great to have but otherwise im a little concerned about it, If nani is sold who will be a replacement? The names thrown around are younger and may prove to be just as inconsistent as nani.
If i had my way with the club, Id give Lingard a chance to prove what he can do and draft petrucci into the first team squad to give him more playing experience at a higher level (looked good in pre season). Buy Dembele. Sell Berba and Macheda, Anderson and nani have until January to prove their worth to the team Would keep an eye out for Alan Dzagoev (Plays attacking mid but can be used wide right and left also) and Draxler, (Young talented Midfielder plays for Schalke).
The defense could do with some shoring up as we always seem to get injuries around the same time, Buttner can apparently play as RB aswell as LB. Nice to have the wingbacks covered, Ferdinand is getting on and seems to rarely play a string of games anymore so why not just get one more, Vidic is 30 and cant play for ever (although he does look good since coming back from injury) I say give Wootton and Blackett a chance to show if they have the potential to play 1st team for the reds if not Dede would be a classy player to have in our central defense.
Let the slating begin! :P
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Would seem you have posted just to get slated so I won't give you the satisfaction
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26 Aug 2012 18:23:39
Hi All MUFC Fans and Rumours.co.uk fans,I'm a long time reader with lots of posts that don't make the cut
2 games into the season and it has not been the electric fire we all talked about all through the summer break.
Carrick and Toni in defensive was a critical error against Everton, Scholesy although he slowed the game down he made some very vital interceptions. Wellbeck should have been left out and the almighty that is Wayne Rooney looked asleep and not interested, meaning Kagawa had to step it up to which he did and a great job done fair play.
I think 99% of us agree, we were Dominated in Midfield and Fellani looked like a world class footballer because our amateur midfield where so bad he looked Amazing.
Into yesterday's game against Fulham, and a quick reshuffle with Rafael in RB and Toni pushed up, Carrick still CB with Roo on the bench. In the first half we looked a lot better than Monday and a bit more of a threat. I seen some good ball play and a good team effort with some good goals etc.
The 2nd half looked dull, like we had sat back and said job done no need to push past 45% effort, as Fulham have no chance of a fight back. How wrong was United, we were once again out played in the middle of the park, and I'm surprised we actually won that game. I have said it a 1000 times we ball watch too much and won't challenge a 50/50 ball.
Fulham's Dembele is a cracking player and the general in Fulham midfield, he is box to box player and has a fantastic future ahead if he keeps playing at that rate.
FERGIE THE TIME IS NOW SIGN HIM UP B4 HE IS SOLD
I could name all the effortless players for United yesterday but we all know who they are
On the other hand the best players on the day
David DeGea Quickly silencing his Critics with vital saves
Rafael What a performance best player on the pitch
Kagawa What a player, He has it all touch, sight and pass
RVP Great goal, hopefully stays fit and scores more goals
Rooney is half the man he was last season, if it's personal problems or domestic problems that have affected his game, he will need to sort it out if he wants to stay committed and interested in playing football as he looks half the man he was
Nani I liked, and hoped for better but he needs to go
Evra Time and time again, put the player focus on a website to him. I never seen such a bad player he is never in the game 100%
Young This is it, if he lacks it anymore goodbye in January
Giggs He should have retired last season
Scholes You saved us in January but as long as you can play Fergie won't find a replacement, pls have a word
Fletcher Fergie has hope we all pray for you Darren
Rio the end is near, great player but the injuries are constant
Anderson when he is fit he can play but overweight and others are carrying him,
Carrick, has his days a bit like Nani, this is your chance to shine
And hopefully not to long before the departure comes of Berba Bebe and Freddie Macheda
What are your views, apologies for the long Banter
Meggzie1992
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Your just looking for an argument... and I hope nobody gives you the satisfaction of an argument
RedKnight
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I agree with all but one thing. You said Rafael was the best player on the pitch yesterday. Well going forward he was brilliant, but he still lacks discipline when defending. If he can bring that into his game, we've got a top right back.
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26 Aug 2012 18:01:15
How poor were City today, they should have come away with no points. They're lucky Liverpool can't wait to screw things up for themselves.
CnM
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City have been poor so far this season, shame we are not playing them next weekend.
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Sydney u say that but we haven't looked that great either
Learch
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Oh yeah and we have been brilliant this season, outplayed by Everton and mediocre against Fulham.
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May i remind you that although city are not in form they are playing like champions where by getting results. which we did and do on so many occasions, plus the fact we need to improve ourselves i mean 3 conceded and one scored against mid table teams so can you stop with your arrogance.
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I was simply saying I would prefer to play City whilst they are not on form. It's irrelevant how we are playing. Goobers.
Sydney!
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"city played poor" is a comparison to them self. Their poor performance maybe enough for us to take on. I saw it still be effective and lethal in most of their passing, and the quality their players still there.
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One scored? We won 3-2 how do you get one scored?
So if city play badly and draw they are 'playing like champions' but if united play badly and win we are awful and not good enough. Some of the posts on here make me laugh!
GDS
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26 Aug 2012 17:59:53
2 give my opinion.. i just dont rate dembele that high.. all are speaking of him highly after the fulham game but i never found him that effective... ya okay! he showd some great football in 2nd half when we were 3 2 up..but where was he in the 1st half when we were complete dominant.. he came to the spotlight when we all shifted towards our backline..He came good only when the team around him played good.. but we need a player who can come good when the whole team is breaking down..If he was that good then he would have never given us chance to dominate the entire 1st half... bt in fellaini case.. i totally agree... He dominated our players from start to end.. when we were attacking..he was there to block us.. when we were defending ..do i need to say?
well! fergie definitely knows that we need a rock in the midfield and for me if we dont buy any then jones is the perfect choice.. he is good in defense as well as in attack.. c'mon he is just 21 and with no doubt can become a far better player than yaya at his age as he still has lot to learn and offer.. our fully fit team will be hell of a team..
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--rafael----------ferdinand---------vidic-------------evra
--------------------carrick-------jones--------------------------
--valencia--------------kagawa---------------nani/young
---------------------rooney/van persie
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Disagree, I have been impressed with Dembele for some time now.
Sydney!
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So basically u are saying u think carrick and jones are both better centre midfielders than dembele? U obviously don't know football mate
Big Stevvy
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Its not that i dont know football.. how the hell did u conclude dat..jones is just a kid now and has full potential to become one of the greatest dm whereas carrick is the most underrated player i have ever seen.. its that i believe the players in my team rather than shouting for the players we dont have
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26 Aug 2012 17:57:38
cheers moon, didn't realize he was iran coach, even if we was his fall back option he would still give 100 percent and do a lot better than phelan.
JK92
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26 Aug 2012 17:54:18
Is Rooney world class?
In my opinion no but he is very close.Too many times his first touch and technique let him down. He lacks the top class qulity of world class players like Ronaldo,Messi,Inestia and Ozil to name but a few. Hvaing said that the crap about him leaving coming from the press is just that....crap. Against Everton he was poor and by his own ommision he was not quite match fit yet and needed 2 or 3 games. It's great now we have Kawaga and Van persie to put pressure on Rooney as before we did he would not have been left out apart from being injured. If he did leave would i be bothered? Not if we replaced him. He held the club to ransom for more money and one can only assume had he not got what he wanted he would have left for Sidy. No player is bigger than the club and depiste thinking we can never replace certain players over the years we always have and will continue to do so. That's why Nani is walking on thin ice. His performances at best are inconsistent and at times rubbish. Not a stong case to get yourself a pay rise!
Above all Rooney is still a scouser!
Love United hate the glazers
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Oezil is not of a higher quality than Rooney. If both players are on form then Rooney is closer to Messi & Ronaldo than Oezil is. Messi and Ronaldo are in a league of their own. Then you get Iniesta, Xavi, Rooney, Neymar etc fighting it out underneath them.
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Ozil is pure class considering. his attacking skills...but rooney is a better all round player .having said that, i would have ozil over rooney in my team with a box to box midfielder like marchisio.
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Messi out on his own, only maradona compares to him from what i have seen. pele i never saw so cant rate. ronaldo way behind them, on e of main reasons, he fades in big games.
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Although Neymar will be in that bracket soon Syd.
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I disagree wit ya syd everyone slates nani for his consistence an in my opinion rooneys game is way below par I watch Spanish football an orzil(spelling) would be a better option than Rooney I know it would be hard to compare but if I was a coach an had the choice it would be orzil all day at the moment. Rooney is great when he is on it but wit RVP an kagawa Rooney could become surplus to requirements an honestly I tought we played better before he came on the other day kags was makin them nervie an RVP was making great space rooney came on RVP dropped back creating nothin an rooneys touch still leaves alot to be desired...... So kags RVP an orzil look a better option than kags RVP an Rooney ...... But in all honestly I would not give him up for the world . He is still an animal
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Xavi and iniesta are constantly ranked higher than rooney. guess those who rate them dont really know much about football huh. should rather give that job to sydney as his knowledge far surpasses that of the professionals.
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26 Aug 2012 17:20:17
I've said for ages how I wish we would sign both dembele and fellaini and posted numerous teams with the two in but got nothing but grief. Stick and criticism from fellow utd fans. How strange now after two teams coincidently againot the two players teams. They have dominated the middle and defence and everyone is now saying sign them up. How ironic......
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Eh, you have no name! For all we know, this is your first ever post.
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Suck it up dude, we'll believe you next time.... Oh wait we don't know who you are....
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26 Aug 2012 14:30:29
Eds I am right in saying dembele has one year to run on his contract?
I really cant understand if thats the case why the management dont make an attempt to sign him. Would around 10m would be enough?
Seems it might be more risky if he was left on a free, would mean a lot more competition from clubs to sign him at a later date, not to mention the value it would provide us this season in reattaining the league. {Ed007's Note - Yeah he only has a year left on his contract.}
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Apparently he has one year left, but the club have the option to extend by a further year. So it's effectively two years really.
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Howe about a sneaky straight swap for Bebe and Macheda?
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Why would Fulham take our cast offs for their best player.
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26 Aug 2012 16:36:19
Nani needs this season to stay or he's going to be sold for sure. I'm sure he wants to extends his contract but his inconsistent performances is not what we need. He'll have a decent season but I can see him being sold to find a CM.
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26 Aug 2012 16:25:16
I'm not saying this will completely solve our defensive problems but I think Evans will be fit for Southhampton. Also I think this would be a good match to introduce Buttner off the bench.
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26 Aug 2012 16:17:03
having watched the game y,day, i think dembele would do a terrific job for us, he has all the attributes of a toure, vierra, dare i say gerrard {sorry} type of player, it is what we have lacked since the keane era, there is no one in the current squad who can offer what he can, your thoughts ed and others
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26 Aug 2012 15:56:47
I think berba and rvp would be a good partnership! What you all think?
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How about bebe and macheda?
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How about Rvp nd Hernandez with Kagawa playing behind them?
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26 Aug 2012 15:30:42
and I quote brendon rodgers, Liverpool football club manager in his interview after a 3-0 loss to west brom.
'I know the Liverpool supporters are very educated' wait stop there your killing me, okay go on go on!
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26 Aug 2012 15:38:04
What is everyone talking about saying Rooney is good but not great and saying he's not good enough and what not?
Rooney has been our stand out player for the last three seasons and without his contributions we would be where arsenal or chelsea are -15-20 points behind 2 place.
It's s joke I love Rooney in a united shirt and will be truly gutted with the sight of him leaving. IMO it will happen but I give him another 2-3 seasons more. He will stay on with united and try and break goal records and more. When fervid leaves it will be the new managers biggest problem. Nobody commands the respect and authority that fergie has and nobody ever will so if rooney pulls something like he did in 2010 then he will go
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26 Aug 2012 15:25:38
sydney seen a couple of posts from you today stating rooney will get sold next summer. Any proof or just opinion. Also who do you expect him to be sold to? Likely fee and replacement?
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It's my opinion. I have always been of the opinion that he will be sold before the manager retires so the manager has the last laugh. Rooney hurt Fergie with what he done in 2010 and the manager will not forget it. Rooney will have two years left on his contract and I think the club are unlikely to give him a pay-rise so they will have to sell. I think we have bought his replacement in RVP for the strikers position and Kagawa for in the hole. I think he would go for £40m+ to someone like PSG. By next summer there will be more top talent on show so we will spend the money well. Of course he could sign a new deal and stay, but I cannot see it personally.
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Its his opinion i think. And i would agree with him.
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I dont think he is smart enough to speak french or spanish.
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I do not see that happen. I cannot imagine Fergie selling our best player just before he retires just so he "has the last laugh". He would not jeopardize our future like that.
If he does hold that against him , then I would not shed a single tear when he calls it a day.
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Swap him with dembele
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26 Aug 2012 15:24:28
Just wondering, Can dembele play in the left??
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26 Aug 2012 15:01:31
LOL, anyone watching the arsenal vs stoke game?
stoke fans are chanting "robin van persie he would of scored that"
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26 Aug 2012 14:28:58
This is the first time in 2 seasons where I think we could survive and challenge for the title without Rooney, Kagawa is a real class act and he does the job Rooney tries to do much better than him. Maybe time to make Rooney into a striker again?
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26 Aug 2012 14:27:47
The papers cant come up with a player were linked with so they say rooney is the one who may be sold.
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Since ronaldo went rooney has carried the team.
unlucky hes injured by maybe hernadez will get a spot with RVP cause welbeck is diobolical.
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No one is bigger than the club and say what you want, Rooney has not been rooney for the last 24 months and it is a combination of his off the field lifestyle and lack of taking care of himself. He looks heavy footed and just not fit. I said this a few days ago and still say the first club that coes in for him and writes a 50 mill check will have him the next day. BTW there are a few stories by various publications writing about this and as they say when there is smoke there is fire. Remember Keane, Beckham,Stam
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How many goals did rooney get last year? So your telling me hes not the same.
One poor performance and your slagging him off.
Clearly have no clue about football.
And players make the team so yeah rooney is the reason along with valencia and scholes last year carried united.
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And keane beckham and stam all did things that upset the manager im sure rooneys one poor game wont really make him sell him.
Get a grip and bore off
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26 Aug 2012 12:59:29
Who would the fans prefere? Fellaini, Dembele, Witsel or Martinez? I personally think we're missing a Dembele and after yesterday's performance I really think we should get him before the window shuts, get rid of Nani, Anderson, Hernandez Berba and Macheda and put and offer in of around 10-15 million which should be enough.
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Martinez > Witsel > Dembele > Fellaini.
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I would of said martinez but after watching dembele yesterday he really reminded my of yaya toure.
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We need to shift on quite a few players to make way for the younger potential. Theres too many players who have been around for a while but arent going to be top quality and make room for the powell tunnicliffe etc
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I think a 4231 formation of
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raf,smalling,vid,evra/buttner
Clevs dembele/mart/witsel/fellaini
Valencia kagawa Rooney
Van persie
This would win title, fa and at least semi's of champs
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26 Aug 2012 12:57:03
SAFs recent quotes that the acquisition of Kagawa and RVP mean we will never lose the title on goal difference are quite correct.
If he doesn't address the midfield issue we'll lose it in April on points.
As a United supporter it's soooo hard to reconcile SAFs current management of the team with his legendary efforts of the past. He will be a hero in my mind, I just beg that he gets this one last piece right do that there are not 'buts' to cloud his legacy!
Come on SAF. All we need is one more signature in the cheque book!
DEMBELE!
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Should have stated. Posted by Timbo.
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26 Aug 2012 12:46:38
With SAF saying in the programme before the game about players falling out of love with Utd, all the papers saying he was talking about Rooney and saying he may be sold. I think he may have been talking about Nani myself.
If Nani goes I'm not sure we will buy anyone else. I always have a tendency to be suspicious of uncle malc and think its taylormade to trouser the money
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Nani out > Witsel in.
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I agree that Rooney will not be sold. The value of having him associated with United as a brand is far more valuable than the transfer fee we would get.
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26 Aug 2012 12:21:17
Dembele looked good yesterday, our defence didn't but 3 points nonetheless
Hope one of 4 injured cbs is fit for next game
and hope rooney is back soon
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Rio and Evans will be fit jones is a long shot!
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26 Aug 2012 12:15:17
just wondering! Sir Alex is renowned for eventually stamping his authority if he feels he has been wronged, he was mortified when Rooney acted up a couple of years ago with his "no ambition" stance, signing Van Persie and Kagawa is a timely reminder that eventually Sir Alex will get his way, he is blinkered in his approach to this season after last seasons disappointment and if it means Rooney feels the draught well then the wheel has turned full circle. Cheetham Red.
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26 Aug 2012 12:05:20
Both Rooney & Anderson seem to have let themselves go in the off season and look to be carrying a bit to much weight.
For me I don't agree and he's the kind off player that just needs a kick up the arse now and again,and lets not forget he's only 26. The transfer of RVP works in two ways, a world class player in the squad and to let Rooney know he has to fight for his place in the side. Lets hope with this four week lay off he's sitting on the bench watching RVP banging in the goals getting his fight back to explode into his first game back with a bang.
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He is out of shape and it shows on the field and need to earn his wages because at his wages you can get anyone out there. You forgot to mention drinking a few pints and cigarettes. lol Shahram
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26 Aug 2012 11:45:32
How on earth have the pigs at The S*n gone from Rooney starting on the bench = Rooney will be sold?
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I know, surely Nani being left out of the squad altogether and his contract negotiations not going well tells the true story. Saying it's Rooney will sell more papers. However I do think this is Rooney's final season at United.
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Really Syd? who do you think will replace him though, I wouldn't put Welbeck in the same ilk as Rooney.
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Van Persie will replace him as the striker and Kagawa will replace him in the hole. Next summer there will be a new Lucas Moura or Eden Hazard and we will sign him. There will be life after Rooney.
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26 Aug 2012 11:26:23
Would love to see yann m'villa at united,he would be the icing on the cake and the dm we so badly badly need.
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26 Aug 2012 11:24:27
"If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, and is looking elsewhere I invariably help them out of the door."
the papers seem to think this is about rooney (hence the selling rooney for 50m story) i disagree i think it is about nani, i think that SAF is trying to scare him and show him that if he doesn't sign a new deal or sort his act out on the pitch then he will be sold.
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It is Nani. But papers will sell better if they say it's Rooney. The Mail say it's Nani and we know one of their journalists have a close relationship with the manager.
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26 Aug 2012 10:08:47
Hey guys, firstly, great site, makes for an interesting daily read and some good rumours. This is my first time posting. I'm just curious as to why united haven't signed a midfielder that fits the bill of what we're supposedly looking for. I have read this morning that arsenal have been invited to make a bid for Yann M'Villa, as well as the possibility of bidding for both Cabaye and Tiote of Newcastle and Mancini asking for the money for bid for £32million-rated Javi Martinez. Then there is circulating speculation of Dembele (who in my opinion, and seemingly many others, was class against us, and in Fulham's opening game and really came into his own towards the business end of last season). All this speculation, players available, if, maybes and buts poses the question; why hasn't SAF put a bid in, or is their interest or money on the table for bids?
Also, I don't understand the slaters of Nani, on his day he is a match winner and plays well against European opposition. Is he likely to go?
Any response from an Ed, or Sydney would be great.
Thanks, Tildo
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Fulham have said we made a very low bid for Dembele and we know there is interest in him from United and Chelsea through Ed002. But I think Chelsea would be a major threat in a deal if he became available as they have many of his international teammates already at the club and he wouldn't have to move house.
Nani is likely to go this window IMO. Just hope we bring in a midfielder with the cash.
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26 Aug 2012 10:03:46
Does anyone else notice that fergie speaks to warren joyce during games but not phelan. Phelan appears to just sit slumped in his chair offering no advice from what I can see. Does anyone know what phelan does as assistant manager? To be fair I dont see what goes on behind the scenes but it appears that advice does not come from him during games like quiroz(spelling) did. Bookedredmole
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Querioz used to be in SAF ear all game and if things weren't going to plan he'd be up on the touchline giving the orders out..
we need him back and i don't know why he hasn't came back because he isn't in a job.
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I think you mean Muelensteen. But I agree and have noticed this myself.
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JK92, CQ is currently the manager of Iran and he's doing fairly well there.
He's set himself the challenge of getting Iran qualified for the WC2014. so he would be back any time soon.
In fact, don't think he'll ever be back. I remember when he took the Portugal job I read something about this being the last time he'll be working at United because the club felt he was using us as a fall back option.
IMO we'll have Phelen until SAF steps down.
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26 Aug 2012 10:03:30
Lets talk about yesterdays performance:
DDG....... A shot stopper who can't catch
Rafael....... Please someone tell him to stand up and stop jumping into every tackle. All Fulhams best attempts came down the left wing as he was jumping into every tackle.
Mad Paddy.... Had one of his better games
The Captain........I got 99 problems but Vidic aint one.
Carrick........... As always gives his best for the club wherever he is asked to play but will never satisfy some supporters who just look for a mistake.
Cleverly ............Grew into the game and realised that midfielders need to beat players not just lay off a square ball, overall good game
Anderson........... A good stone and half overweight this fat arsed fool plays for the first ten minutes of each half and then spends the rest just panting. Surely there is a taxi waiting for him.
Kagawa.......... World class and I feel he will be the real star of the season wait till the European games to see how good he really is. Top marks.
Young.........One trick pony who always pulls the ball back and doesn't want to take a man on.
Tony V..........Complete opposite he was possitive always trying to hit the line and deliver a cross. Spent a lot of the second half covering for Rafael
RVP................Pure class who will only get better as he gets match fit...
Subs......
Danny W........ Got his new contract so good luck to the lad but inafectual when he came on
Rooney.......... No impact at all, nasty gash but thats enough about Colleen.
Overall........ Much needed win even if we looked shaky after Kagawa went off. Much to build on and we all know about the Fulham player who would be perfect sat in front of the back 4 but we have a manager who is the only person who doesn't see the need.
Crowd was excellent and the atmosphere was really good.
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Couldn't agree more. Accurate assessment. Dembele would come in for a reasonable price as well, i simply do not understand why somebody hasn't paid up for him. Him in there instead of Ando would have been great. Anderson really needs to be sold, probably Nani as well and replaced with quality players, it really would not take huge investment to do that if they are sold for a reasonable price.
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LMAO great post and prettu much spot on. Shahram
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DDG , if you watch it for their second goal De Gea was fouled by a Fulham player.
Rafael, needs to learn to concentrate and stay goal side. He gets caught the wrong side then commits a foul.
Anderson is overweight and should be out the door with Nani
It seems everyone but the manager can see we need a CM and for me a Nani replacement. Dembele looked good particularly in the second half ,there are better in my opinion but he is certainly an improvement on what we have.
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Red Man, the manager placed a bid for Witsel a fortnight ago so I think he knows what we need too. Just think the more the media keep churping on about it, the more he will rebel. I hope not though.
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For three years SAF has skirted around what he needs to do in midfield now we have 5 days, if he remains stubborn then it will cost him dearly this season.
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Red Man, cost us mate. We are all in it together.
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It hurt me to watch city win it, I turn the advert on the radio off when it comes on , we are all affected but then why does SAF ignore the obvious problem?
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LOL, I do the same thing when an advert comes on with the commentator shouting AGUERO!! It sickens me. The manager needs a midfielder and I do not think we would have bid for Witsel if the manager didn't feel the same. The thing that worries me about the manager is if he doesn't get his first or second target will be not bother with any? He is a stubborn man and to be fair we have been saying this for a while you and I. I do not believe we have major cash to spend as we are a self sufficient club, but the manager does seem to get what he wants when HE asks. SAF ask just one more time and get Witsel or Dembele. Red Man, watching the games again NOW and Dembele is everywhere and he is a handful. defensively and offensively, retaining the ball and he can even shoot. What more can we want? And he is gettable with SAF's mate being the Michael Jackson loving Egyptian.
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26 Aug 2012 09:57:08
how can we not sell berba. A good age, retired from internationals, has quality yet no takers. Yet fletcher from wolves, one of the worst strikers i've seen in the prem the last five years and gets every club he's at relegated goes for fourteen million! Berba's available for less than half. Doesn't deserve another season on the bench. It must be wage demands.
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Wage situation i think mate.
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26 Aug 2012 09:56:33
how can we not sell berba. A good age, retired from internationals, has quality yet no takers. Yet fletcher from wolves, one of the worst strikers i've seen in the prem the last five years and gets every club he's at relegated goes for fourteen million! Berba's available for less than half. Doesn't deserve another season on the bench. It must be wage demands.
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Berbatov is being very picky and is being very unrealistic with his wage demands. There has been plenty of interest, but he is making any move away from the club very difficult. He has been doing this since last summer to be fair. He wanted to leave on a free so he could pocket more cash.
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26 Aug 2012 09:49:23
All you people will be pleased to know I had reason to smile yesterday as I left Old Trafford. I saw 2 world class players in a red shirt. RVP proved that if you have quality you only need half a chance and Kagawa was just a joy to watch as he threaded balls through the Fulham defence. People know my opinion on Rooney and what he did to the club but I would like one of you to come on here and tell me the last game in which he dominated for us. Now is the time to cash in on him and build a fresh side around Kagawa and RVP. The self proclaimed "Big Man" Needs to up his contribution 100% and his attitude. Still with all this time off he can go and watch his beloved Everton. I AM KLOOT
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I think this will be Rooney's final season at United.
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I agree, if we could get atleast 50m for him id take it, id re-invest the whole 50m in the squad.
but id also be happy to keep him.
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Spot on mate. The difference between a very good player and a good player was quite evident yesterday.
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Completely agree with you Kloot!
I mean, we can't deny that Rooney is a top class talent but he seems to be acting like the game is won and that because he is Wayne Rooney he doesn't need to work for the win.
Obviously he makes us look that much stronger but I would happily take £50M for him and then look at somebody like Witsel.
If we sold Nani, Rooney, Evra and Anderson that would bring in around £80M.
With that amount of money we could easily bring in Witsel, Gaitan/Rodriguez as well as other young quality.
I'd take this team (below) over our current XI any day of the week;
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Rafael__Smalling__Vidic__Evra
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____Toni___Kagawa___Gaitain/Rodriguez
_________Van Persie________
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Lads do not get ahead of yourselves, Rooney is not going to be sold this week. He will be unable to train for a week or so, but it will give him 3weeks or so to get into full fitness. He cannot play competitively for the 3weeks, but will be able to train and get into shape. Lets not forget how well Rooney can be when he hits form and lets not get carried away with this ridiculous Rooney out nonsense, it is clearly Nani that the manager was referring to.
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I would give him this season to prove himself, probably SAF may also leave at the end of this season. Next summer, buy a couple of top class players and then sell Rooney and get someone who plays in a similar position and i would be happy with that.
Rodriguez, Muniain and Witsel would be ideal. Witsel/ Dembele perhaps this summer?
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26 Aug 2012 09:15:28
Alot of talk about Rooney pushing his luck today. Losing him would be counter productive ultimately. However with Henriquez signing, that hands us 6 strikers, 7 including Keane. Surely Berbatov is off. I think we at still looking for a system that can include as many I the remaining ad possible and for me Hernandez has got to be given more of a chance, people are to quick to overlook the first season he had an the quality of the goals he was scoring. I am just hoping that we can squeeze in a CM before the window shuts, Martinez is my first choice but after yesterday's game I would settle for Dembele. Thoughts?!
The much hated: PJ
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We have five strikers in RVP, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Henriquez. Will Keane is out for the season and Henriquez will play for the U21's, but may get a few games for the first team. I think Rooney will be sold next summer.
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I reckon chicarito will get his fair amount of games and I am tipping him to score loads of goals. This theory is because his assets are suited to clever through balls from kagawa and rvp etc. Bookedredmole
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26 Aug 2012 08:52:26
I wish we sell the following - OUTS ~~ Nani £25m,Anderson £15m,Berbatov £5m,Bebe £3m,Macheda £2m = £50m and bring in a CM ,Dembele £12m and Nani's replacement at £20m,maybe Isco/Muniaini/Gaitan/Rodriguez
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Anderson no more than 10, maybe 12 if lucky , berba prbly 3 nobody wants to pay 5, bebe was being offered to besiktas for 1mil, dembele atleast 15, nanis replacement atleast 30mil
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Every one of the replacements for Nani you named are a step backwards, whats the point in that
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Redknight you should watch a few Bilbao games and see Muinian. No way he would go for less than 25 million pounds and in a different class and most probably will end up at Barcelona. Ghaitan is better and Rodrigues can't say as i have not seen enough off him Shahram
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25 Aug 2012 21:22:15
Ed002 if you're around, do you believe SAF when he says we've finished our business for the summer? Or do you think we still have targets that we are trying to negotiate a deal for? Thanks,
#ags {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}
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26 Aug 2012 05:14:48
i may be reading too much into this but i was watching the press conference on MUTV before the match day live sir alex said are buying done with a cheeky grin then on to the Mexican lad he could get out any faster may one more plus he did say if the player is available hell go in and try and get him some think than after the Chilean and buttner than would be it but those two players were easy to get as we been looking at chilean young player for years and had a first option on him and with with buttner he only had one year left on his contract i think one player will come in any way good game evra did great signing buttner may given him a message step up or be replaced also van the man says he not match fit yet the way he scored that volley cant wait to see him match fit and i think the way rooney was dropped plus the injury may take him out for a month was a message to him not the injury of course but that performance like the one at everton are not going to cut it anymore and needs to step up and when he gets back form injury he may find that is not going to back in the team first thing like the last couple seasons cause we couldnt afford to drop him but we have van the man and kagawa could form one of the best partnerships in the league.
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26 Aug 2012 04:49:55
well, first time post on this and all i can say is that our team look tired, after about 60 mins of play we look depleted. yes some are calling for a defencive midfielder and it would indeed strengthen the squad but i honestly believe once the back four is stable and jones is back i think we have the option to mould him into that midfield role, so so so impressed with kagawa so far and people saying he's like park just because he's asain is ridiculous on to the next game ,number 20 then fergie and phelan out the door finish on a high fergiee
time to roll a blunt, U.T.I.D
MISTER kennedy.
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They are tired because we had a strange Pre season where all the players weren't together. The player who had a proper Pre season and played most games is kagawa so he should be a step above the others and clearly is.
Why people are saying get rid of fergie is beyond me, you do know we won yesterday? We ripped them apart on the first half more than we did to any team in the last 6 months of last season, it was a pleasure to watch.
If it wasn't for a silly defensive error to let them get the 2nd we would have been out of sight.
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26 Aug 2012 04:02:59
Watched the game for the first time just now. That big Serbian guy in defence looks well dodgy - I demand SAF sort out a replacement immediately!
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And i demand he be replaced by whoever is flavour of the day today.
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26 Aug 2012 02:22:06
So according to the sunday blags fergie has had enough of Rooney and would consider selling him for 50 mill if his fitness and attitude dont change.
What a load of old nonsense if you ask if you ask they guy is worth his weight in gold at Old Trafford if you ask me.
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Not if his attitude is wrong (I have no idea if it is). Rooney often appears to have an inflated sense of himself, and his form and contribution does not merit it. He burst onto the scene and was going to be the next world class star...but he has never lived up to that. OK, he can be brilliant, but he can also sulk and his outburst last year was way out of order. If he is becoming disruptive, he will be on how way. SAF focuses on the team, not individuals. Personally, I'd take £50M off anyone for him.
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26 Aug 2012 02:45:12
THINGS I NOTICED YESTERDAY
Watching yesterday's game reminded me of 99 season.great offensive play but shocking defence,with atleast oe CB fit we can improve it.
i dont think we need a midfielder if ando and clev stay fit.
so sad that rooney will be out for a month
also hope SAF will find a way to include him in the starting lineup.
ALL THE WAY TO THE TREBLE
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26 Aug 2012 02:40:15
Fergie lies - Utd will sign a CM before the window closes;
Dembele or Fellaini would be great, not sure as to who is the main target, there are many targets though. you heard it here first.
-Dan
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26 Aug 2012 01:43:43
Fellaini is only good if you lump the ball up to him, Anderson was way better than Dembele today
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Are you serious? Do you genuinely believe what you just wrote?
G.A.G.U.S
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As a Pool fan watching I thought Dembele was unbelievable today. He was the best player on the pitch followed by Kagawa in my opinion. To even suggest that Anderson was good enough even to lace Dembele's boots today is ludicrous. I think Pardoe need's to open his eyes a little more.
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Pardoe you are either a mug or you sell extra large size shorts and are making a packet out of Anderson. I AM KLOOT
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Pardoe you need your head examining. That is one if the worst posts I have ever seen on this site.
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26 Aug 2012 01:21:25
If we do not get a good midfielder we will not win anything this year, I love man utd and want them too win all the time but our midfield is not good enough to win the league,Fulhams midfield were far better then ours today so what will man city,chelsea, barca and real M do 2 too us alex f is one of best managers in world football so he knows this so why not fix it, why did he not give 25 million for midfielder instead of rvp we have forwards ??
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Because when Rooney got injured for 4 weeks we would be playing with Welbeck and Hernandez up front and people would be moaning we can't play without Rooney. Now we will be playing with van Persie up front, a little bit better you must think?
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26 Aug 2012 00:08:39
Rafael had a great game didnt have to do much defending tho but going forward best ive seen him and the fabio didnt even get on for qpr honestly cant see him making the grade
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Fabio started for qpr
razmataz (first post ;)
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Didn't even get on what, the coach home?
He played 90 minutes!
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No Name ... i agree with GDS but will go a little further..
Fabio has played 180minutes so far for QPR... to you that is both games, start to finish and yesterday they made 2 subs in defence and he still played the whole game.
give the boy a change..... you need a run of games to build up the confidence to play for us and he was not getting these with evra infront of him....
expect him to come back in next season stronger and ready to be our number 1 lb...... raf yesterday was quality and fabio is more gifted than his brother...
watch this space
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Rafael was excellent going forward but a total liability defensively.Its all very wel to talk about how promising he is but unless he learns to defend he will cost us game after game. What frustrates me is that he has been like this for about three seasons now-does anyone at United do any coaching? John the Red
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