06 Jul 2014 17:30:11
I think most people need to take a step out of LVG's backside. This time last year he was not even mentioned for the job by most and now he is the man with the Midas touch - despite doing sweet FA so far!

Don't get me wrong I am more optimistic than I was Moyes, but had LVG taken over directly from SAF we wouldn't be creaming our pants about him just yet and there would be a lot of concern. The media are obviously building it all up as well so it's hard not to get too carried away by this impending revolution.

We need to wait and see what happens, because there is nothing guaranteed and he hasn't done a thing yet. These players were going to be signed irrespective.

Aside from the 2nd half against Spain it has hardly been convincing from the Dutch, if anything they have relied massively on one man who we don't have! Mexico & Costa Rica are hardly world beaters and the Dutch have looked very dull, which I hope is more down to their lack of overall talent than the tactics being deployed.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on, Beast. Some fans are looking at LVG as some kind of footballing Messiah, he's very far from that but is still a vast improvement on Moyes. Some people need to calm down and remember the size of task ahead. Utd have a serious lack of quality throughout the squad with players like Young and Cleverley still there, and surely a foreign manager won't get caught up in the 'he came through the ranks so we need to back him' nonsense with the average at best Welbeck.
Let's not forget the most important thing though, England flopped at the WC because of Rooney!
I have seen it all before at Rangers when Dick Advocaat was there, he filled the place with Dutch players and staff etc and the place was split with different cliques in the dressing room and behind the scenes.
It's happened at other clubs as well, it seems to be a Dutch trait, just look how many times Holland have imploded at major tournaments.}

1.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 18:26:59
He's taken a Dutch squad which is far from vintage to ( at least ) the last four of the World Cup and shown that he's tactically versatile and not afraid to make tough calls
He's playing the football he has to at the moment to win with the squad he's got and it's working .
You're right he's not done anything with United yet so let's not get carried away but one things for sure .if he'd got the job last season with the same squad as Moyes had we would' nt have finished 7th and got humiliated by City and Liverpool along the way

{Ed007's Note - And RVP wouldn't have turned his back on his team-mates, the club and the supporters when they needed him. The clique would have been in place.}

2.) 06 Jul 2014
I think what also needs to be mentioned is what van Gaal has done with the squad he has. The defense and midfield are by no means household names, yet I haven't seen an over reliance on the big names of the team (RvP, Robben and Sneijder). Of course they do see a lot of the action, but Depay, Blind, Huntelaar, Kuyt and Lens also have their fair share of play. What I am trying to say is that van Gaal has created a real unit of players who very much so play as one, a unit which doesn't have to rely on one or two players and uses players who get the job done without lighting the world on fire. The spirit of the team is also pretty clear to see, and I think that's a big plus for us. Moyes never inspired the players as a group, I think van Gaal will.

Argentina will obviously be the big test, van Persie in particular will have to step up his game and I would like to see van Gaal change his tactics a little as I agree he hasn't been a maestro so far. We're a terrible set of supporters for setting ourselves up for a fall by jumping on any little thing, today it's the fact he subbed a goalkeeper for a shoot out. How that could have any implication for his managerial tenure at Manchester United is beyond me.

3.) 06 Jul 2014
There was a clique in place last season, it was the Everton contingent and Rooney.

4.) 06 Jul 2014
So true beast! Mexico just gave Brazil a run for there money playing exciting football.
Costa rica lol losers just beat Uruguay and Italy yeah no big deal. but hey the Dutch with the rubbishty team just needs to swat them aside. robben aside from, Spain hasn't been exceptional in any match other than the dive against Mexico
Dutch has played more as a team rather than individual brilliance yes not exciting football agreed. but the best use of what he had.

People kiss Mourinho's ass for effective football
but hey van gaal no biggie
fergie played boring football ever since Ronaldo left.
We have been workman like
our last trophy was won by individual brilliance of Rvp rather than amazing football
So we ain't any condition to judge van gaal.
And his tactics with Dutch

5.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 19:23:02
Andy,

Him subbing the goalkeeper at such a time in a quarter final shows that he has balls and that he will make big decisions when they are needed. It is not that he will bring lindegaard on in a shoot out, it's more what the decision signifies that people are getting excited about. Could you imagine moyes taking that gamble?

I agree people are getting a bit carried away but we are united fans and we want the best, we have to be realistic and say top 4 and a cup run this year would be a massive success after last year. But a plan and a playing style that the players can work with is what lvg brings, something we majorly lacked last season.

I agree he's not the messiah, but he's a very naughty boy.

6.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 19:39:45
I can see why us fans think the way they do about van Gaal, he's replacing a much worse manager in David Moyes so hypothetically speaking things are only going to get better from here on improving on what we witnessed last season (less said the better)
It's just like fans creaming their pants at the prospect of signing Vidal to replace Tom Cleverley; you just know a huge chronic problem going to be sorted and things can only get better if it happens

7.) 06 Jul 2014
Why is suddenly fact that RVP faked injury?

8.) 06 Jul 2014
Ed007 I didn't know you were a QPR supporter but seeing as we both bide in Scotland. I'm, awfly pleased my granddad ( kris Boyd) is getting a wage.

{Ed007's Note - I'm a Celtic supporter :)

9.) 06 Jul 2014
GDS, I thought the "Messiah" jokes was not allowed on here? lol

I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!”

10.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 21:32:40
All the games where we lost and moyes couldn't change the game sitting clueless on the bench, not knowing what to do , how to motivate the team. All we can judge on is how van gaal has changed games and is willing to rock the boat to get the result. Holland are punching above their weight (imho) so let's see what happens.

11.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 21:47:29
Would we have landed Shaw and Herrera if LVG wasn't with us?

12.) 06 Jul 2014
By all accounts David Moyes laid a lot of the groundwork for both those deals, so yes, we probably would have.

13.) 06 Jul 2014
06 Jul 2014 22:23:00
007 very harsh, I think LVG has taken an average side - bar 3 - and done very well so far. Don't write the Dutch off just yet and that's that!

14.) 07 Jul 2014
This Dutch side are very much like SAFs last league winning side. Not great to watch but very able to get the needed result and LvG instills the same discipline and fear that SAF did. The difference now is the the Glazers are seeing a decline in their main asset and are now investing heavily, so things can only get better. At least we know now that whoever plays for United, they will be giving their all. It's a start!