20 Jan 2014 19:03:54
Please guys, don't see my posts as gloating and I realise that there is a long way to go before the end of the season. I live In Manchester so I realise that gloating can only bit me on the ass. I'm just pointing out what has gone wrong. In relation to your academy, the last time you produced anything of note was your platform to success. Recently thought, it's not been great. And Sydney, I wouldn't brag that cleverly was from your youth set up. All I am saying is that the board must have known fergie was leaving, so why didn't they put a plan together, instead of just seeing what happens next. When'd fergie left you lost more then just a manager. Unfortunately for you guys you replaced him with just a manager. In my opinion and a humble one at that, you should have gone for someone to steady the ship, perhaps a bit more experience to work alongside moves. A manager that could have taken the heat off him a bit more. Instead, moves was always doomed to fail in his first season and unfortunately it does not take long for the fans to get on his back.

1.) 20 Jan 2014
Who was the last top notch player to come from Liverpool's academy? Gerrard? How long ago? Kelly? Flanagan LOL. Chelsea's academy? Terry, although didn't he sign at 15? City's? Micah Richards perhaps? When it comes to talent being produced it's usually by us or Arsenal.

Like I said, top clubs have a good income or a good academy, we have both.

2.) 20 Jan 2014
Flanagan will be a top full back so no lol there. We have I've, Kelly, sterling although we did buy him at 15, Ibe, rossiter ask ed02 about him, infact, I would say that that our youth team looks promising. Sorry, I also forgot wisdom, McLaughlin, Alberto again bought, but still looks good, borini again another purchase but again good, Sturridge, Allen, yessil need I go on. We have the second youngest squad and a great young manager.

3.) 20 Jan 2014
They are all bought players. I can name bought players but you told me not to.

Wisdom bought at 15, Alberto bought at 20, Sturridge bought at 23, Yesil at 18, Ibe at 15, Sterling at 15, Allen 22, Borini at 21 were all bought.

The only senior players you have that was developed at Liverpool from a very young age are Gerrard, Kelly & Flanagan. That's it LOL.

4.) 20 Jan 2014
@red81

The word great is thrown around too loosely these days.
Is Brendan great? No, he isn't.

Great managers are people like Jose, Pep, Anchelotti to name a few. Brendan has a long long way to go to reach the great stauts.

5.) 20 Jan 2014
Red81. You signed Sturridge at 23. How exactly does that make him a product of your youth system?

Flanagan is not too bad and Ibe and Sterling both look promising (I've not heard of Rossiter or McLaughlin).

At 23 - I don't see Kelly improving much more which does not bode well - as he is a Championship player at best atm. Borini came through Chelski's youth setup and is a mid-table type player. Room to improve but some way to go.

Wisdom doesn't look too bad but again will never be world class. I've not seen Alberto but he came to you at 20 years old so can hardly be described as having come through your academy.

In short the only player of note to have come anywhere near your youth setup in recent years and shown any real promise is Sterlin - and he spent seven years with QPR before moving to Liverpool.

6.) 20 Jan 2014
You bought almost everyone you mentioned!

7.) 20 Jan 2014
Liverpool have a good youth, as does Chelsea, City have by far the best crop of youngsters. Not to forget Arsenal either.

what determines whether a player counts as a success? for me it's that player playing at a high level whether it's United or not.

Currently, United have more ex academy players playing EPL football than any other club.

Off the top of my head; Ben Foster, Ryan Shawcross, Wes Brown, John O'shea, Robbie Brady, Gibson, Campbell, Morrison, Daelhi.

and that's not counting the lads at United.

8.) 20 Jan 2014
Red81 you really will have these comments come back round in the not so distant future and bite you in the arse as Wilson and Pearson will be better than Owen and Gerrard throw in Januzaj and the Keane twins plus Perriera then the humble pie you will be eating for 15 years should taste sore as hell and leave you with a bad taste in your mouth

9.) 20 Jan 2014
Please do go on because sturridge and allen where far from youngsters when you got them and flanagan sorry to say squad player at best

just face the facts as syd said we will never fade away like liverpool did

ps there a long season to go yet who is to say we won't finish above you?

10.) 20 Jan 2014
And remind us where have united finished in the u21's for the last few years?

11.) 20 Jan 2014
LOL that is hilarious guys and good work. Basically not one player in that list is youth product. I needed something to cheer me up.

12.) 20 Jan 2014
Not sure you read my post. I mentioned the players we bought, however, what I was saying is that we have players to bring us forward. Look there is no point in arguing. We will see at the end of the season. And to redseven you will defiantly have heard of rossiter in two years time. That boy will grace the league will class.

13.) 20 Jan 2014
What is also funny is that their only product of note they have as in "Stevie G" is being slagged off as being past it on their own site . All because they drew at home to villa! Well funny!

14.) 20 Jan 2014
NM, I will answer you, we are the current U21 Champions.

2012/13 Champions of England.

15.) 20 Jan 2014
Kate, Wilson and Pearson will be fine players.

16.) 20 Jan 2014
Ok syd ill give you a list of lfc u21's who are showing real signs of promise at the moment! Alexander, biao, bizev, canos, chirivella, cleary, dunn (this lad is utter class) teixeira, trickett-smith, paez, rossiter who infact is only 16 and is brilliant, harry wilson who has already made his full international debut for wales at the age of 16. The teams last result? A 4-2 victory at arsenal. Not too bad eh? I understand that united do produce top young players, but to suggest that lfc aren't is wide of the mark! And these lads were just off the top of my head, there's many more!

ian the red

17.) 20 Jan 2014
Anyone can just name their youth team, we have 11 in our youth team as well, that's shows us nothing.

18.) 21 Jan 2014
Ian, I have never suggested Liverpool are not producing top young players. All clubs have top young players. Perhaps you should read what he wrote further down before you butt in. He asked me:

"when was the last time you produced a first team player and I don't mean a player you bought at 16"

I mentioned Cleverley, Welbeck, Ravel, Evans, Fletcher, Giggs. Then there's Scholes, Butt, Nevilles, Beckham etc. Then he mentioned Allen, Sturridge, Ibe, Sterling, Borini, Wisdom, Yesil & Alberto who were all purchased.

I didn't even mention the current academy players. As you will know MU aren't short of exceptional young talent either.