26 Apr 2014 01:48:12
What TF - all the premier league managers disgusted with Moyes sacking. 7th in the league, going backwards with performances and they want to give Moyes more time. If Moyes was in the top four competing, with some sort of vision then no problem give him time, but how can you give him £100m plus and just hope he gets it right next season. Okay, any next manager is a punt, but that`s what they are trying do - reduce the risk of the next manager being a dud by being business like in their selection. all this cr*p about United now being like every other team. We`re not spurs, arsenal or Liverpool - we're one of the top 4 teams in world football, if a the manger is going in the right direction he will get time to show it.

1.) 26 Apr 2014
Couldn't agree more. i'm also sick of all this sympathy for moyes. He came in and made a cock up of everything.

What I'm looking forward to most is not hearing rooney getting lauded before and after every match.

I hope the brown from rooney's butthole will eventually rub off DM's nose!

2.) 26 Apr 2014
Bestorronnie

I don't recall they were doing as much bleating when Liverpool sacked Hodgson after less time than we gave Moyes and did they all line up like that against Chelsea on a regular basis? Ignore the Liverpool biased press and those who rejoice in our bad times because they wanted Moyes to stay. Ignore managers who moan because they fear their own jobs when their clubs might suddenly think if United got rid of the non performing manager maybe we should. Maybe we didn't handle it perfectly but he had to go and he went, they will get over it, ignore them, let's enjoy, as Giggs said, us playing like Manchester United again. Let's get a top manager in and ignore bleats about poor Saint David.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think it was that he was sacked red man, as he obviously deserved it, its more the disgraceful way that the senior players in particular plotted his downfall..

3.) 26 Apr 2014
You utd fans are so arrogant. "we're not liverpool, arsenal etc etc. we are united and deserve the best. BS attitude" Why? its not a given right to be at the top, it needs to be earned. You have been spoilt by years of stability with (dare I say it) one of the greatest, if not, the greatest modern day managers. about time the bubble burst . welcome to a few years of mediocracy and failing to meet lofty expectations of sweeping all before you.

4.) 26 Apr 2014
That's twice you've (ed025) mentioned the disgraceful way the senior players plotted in Moyes downfall, without elaborating fully. Is it just the players who wanted Moyes out or also the board? Is there a news report, with a timeline of incidents, which identify plotting to overthrow his management, that I've missed? There's an image of Ryan Giggs with his hands in front of his face mwaaahaha-ing, ala mister burns! please elaborate.

{Ed025's Note - it was the players alone mate, we all know who they were, once the dust settles the truth will out, and hopefully they will get their just desserts..

5.) 26 Apr 2014
It's all very well criticising the players and normally I would agree but the players could see what the fans could see, he wasn't right for the club. Seemingly the only ones that couldn't see it were the board. So if it comes down to a choice if the players stabbing him the back OR Moyes remaining in charge and taking us even further backwards, then I take the former. A club like United should have a manager that doesn't allow the players to take claim the power. SAF wouldn't have, Van Gaal wouldn't, Mourinho wouldn't, Guardiola wouldn't and so on. Moyes was just not a strong enough character for the job.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that he was not strong enough TK, but when the lunatic,s start running the asylum mate..its a very slippery slope..

6.) 26 Apr 2014
Tk
Your right all them managers who of got rid of the trouble makers .
I think moyes would of as well this summer

7.) 26 Apr 2014
There was more to it than the players. A reputable report explained how Moyes tried to change the emphasis in the youth from skill to physicality which went against everything SAF had introduced. It did not go down well I can tell you.
The players didn't make comments in press conferences or set tactics.
I am very much into standing behind the manager, but the manager has to have the ability or they will lose the confidence from the team. I have come across the show us your medals attitude of team members and have seen managers floundering as he did and it is almost impossible to pull back. So whilst the players haven't covered themselves in glory the manager has not taken command and led from the front because he didn't have the stature to begin with. Kicking out the ones that caused issues would only have pushed the problem to the next year as the ones to come in could equally have lost confidence in him especially if they were used to playing for a really top coach. It may not have been pretty but they have done us all a favour.

{Ed025's Note - i can see your point red man, and it goes without saying that he was a poor choice mate, i just would have liked it to come from the top, i think thats the way it should be..

8.) 26 Apr 2014
I don't know who the players were, can you tell me?

{Ed025's Note - if you dont carloto i would be surprised, the media do,so i suggest you read up on it mate..

9.) 26 Apr 2014
Moyes may very well have shipped those players out in the summer but whether their conduct was inappropriate or not, these are seasoned professionals who have known what is required at Manchester United. I also think that a manager has to earn the right to make those decisions, whether it be by getting results at his current club or from having a proven track record at that level before he joined the club. It's been said many a time that the step up was just too big for him and perhaps the players could see that. If players, who have served United loyally and with distinction, felt this was the only option then I would take their word. David Moyes has never done anything to earn my trust with regards to my team and I'm sure other United fans feel the same.

10.) 26 Apr 2014
Carloto, I can name the player who the media have said there were rifts with. None of us were there when it happened so we don't know for sure, but Vidic, Ferdinand, Giggs, Van Persie, Carrick & Welbeck all had disagreements with the manager. Hernandez & Kagawa were not happy either but remained professional (if the media reports are true).

11.) 26 Apr 2014
Tk
Lets just hope the players like the next manager.

12.) 26 Apr 2014
TK, I feel the same. I don't think he had the respect he needed from the start. No credentials.

13.) 26 Apr 2014
Redman

"A reputable report explained how Moyes tried to change the emphasis in the youth from skill to physicality which went against everything SAF had introduced. It did not go down well I can tell you."

you are making stuff up, go ahead and post this reputable report and hope the eds allow it.

14.) 26 Apr 2014
GCU
From Manchesters main newspaper
"David Moyes cut holes in his own safety net at United by attempting to change the Reds’ academy style.
Back in the grim days of 1989 when Alex Ferguson’s Old Trafford future as United boss came under increasingly intense scrutiny and the support was losing patience on the terraces, his back-the-scenes groundwork with the youth system bought security.

Largely unseen at that point by the match-going fan, Fergie was revamping the club’s neglected youth policy and scouting network.

Having learned of neighbours City’s win in the FA Youth Cup over United in 1986 before his arrival from Aberdeen and seen the fact that Maine Road was hoovering up many of the best local talent, Ferguson set about shifting the balance back to the Reds being the main attraction for the best kids in the area.

Les Kershaw was brought on board to head the scouting system and old boys Nobby Stiles and Brian Kidd were employed as youth team coaches.

The spirit of the Busby Babes era blossomed as United began to take command of Manchester and the Class of ‘92 was the first major public success when they triumphed over Leeds and won the 1993 FA Youth Cup.

As well as discovering the nuggets, the youth team staff had to teach a style of play that was to run through the whole club, from the youngest apprentices to the most senior players. They were educated in the United style.

It was because of that background strategy that the United board, made up of chairman Martin Edwards and directors Sir Bobby Charlton, Maurice Watkins and Michael Edelson, never ever discussed the possibility of sacking Fergie in the late 80s despite poor league results and fans beginning to call for his head.

The youth policy was Fergie’s safety net.

Unfortunately it is understood that Moyes effectively tampered with his own job security by attempting to produce a more athletic next generation with less emphasis on ball skills.

A number of the staff working with the younger players were uneasy about the change and a good few entrenched in Fergie’s ways of developing the academy players wondered if they would get the call to Moyes’ office to discover their P45s on the table.

In the end it was the manager who got the bullet and with concerns over how things were changing on the youth development side, Moyes didn’t have the safety net Fergie had created for himself over a quarter of a century ago when results were not going his way."

Enjoy that GCU?