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04 Jun 2013 20:16:45
Hi eds, Any truth in the rumour that Nani is going to Galatasaray? and how much is he realistically worth? {Ed004's Note - I do not know maybe at a push 15-20 million}

SamMackness

1.) Nani may go to galatasary for 18m but I think he will go to Monaco for 20m


2.) I just can't see how any club would consider paying more than 7-8 million for him, so anyone offering north of 10 I would carry him there. 18-20 is daylight robbery.

DanW


3.) About time we sold someone over priced though


 

 

 

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29 Jun 2013 10:49:32
Can you see Thiago staying now as Rafinha Alcantara has signed a new contract at Barca and the family would prefer to stay together rather than relocate all over?

SamMackness

1.) No not really wouldn't have thought it would have any bearing on it. His complaint was lack of game time, I don't see how his brother affects that. And his brother is still most likely to be on loan.

Personally i'm hoping daddy has got a similar clause in Rafinho's contract.

As for Thiago, he's 22 not that young anymore, players have moved abroad at younger ages, look at Fabregas and Pique for example.


 

 

15 Jun 2013 22:39:09
Hi eds, if there is a move for Bale could you see Daniel Levy let him go to another prem club? cheers {Ed002's Note - I answered the same question from you yesterday.}

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14 Jun 2013 12:50:58
Ed, If there is a move for Bale can you see Daniel Levy letting him go to another prem club? {Ed002's Note - Do you have any club in mind? The situation has not arisen so I doubt Mr Levy has considered it.}

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05 Jun 2013 08:24:00
Personally, I would prefer Bale instead of Ronaldo purely because of age and Real Madrid want too much for ronaldo! what does everybody think?

SamMackness

1.) Tottenham and levy will bargain to the last penny

nikz


2.) Bale is a world class player

Ronaldo is from another planet.

If there is the slightest chance we could bring ronaldo back - I hope united jump at the chance.


3.) Have a word my son

Ross


4.) We wouldn't pay any more for Ronaldo than Bale, do people not remember how Levy does business? Bale will never be as good as Ronaldo either so has to be Ronaldo all the way for me.

Brendan81


5.) You don't think Spurs want a lot for Bale.
DHK


6.) I'd go for Bale too but both are pipe dreams IMO. Hope they both end up at Madrid if we can't have them!

HB


7.) Think most of you are forgetting what the player wants! And that's to stay at spurs at least one more season THEN go abroad, united are NOT on his agenda


8.) Brendan81

How can you even say Bale will never be as good as Ronaldo?
Who knows what will happen in Bales career, he's still only 23 and is only going to get better.
I think Bale is absolutely perfect for us on the left or right just drifting inside. If he came to united believe me within 1-2 years he would be on another planet.
Ronaldo is nearly 29, no way should be be even thinking or forking out 80 million pounds for a 28 (nearly 29 year old player). It's absolutely crazy money no matter who they are.
I think Ronaldo is absolute pure class and I would love him back but for 80 million pounds. No chance, it's to much money for somebody that age.

Simmo


9.) Simmo in my eyes Bale has 2 main attributes, pace and a good shot. Now we all know that pace deteriorates as players move into their late 20's, when it does I honestly don't think he will be half the player he is now. Look how it has affected Rooney's game.

Ronaldo is quick too but he has a better shot than bale, he is a much more skilful player, better in the air, better deadball delivery and all round he is on another planet to Bale. I like Bale a lot right now but he will never be a Ronaldo and definitely not at the prices quoted.

Saying that, I wouldn't pay £80m for Ronaldo now either. Around £55m would be my max or wait a year and it will be around £40m.

Brendan81


10.) Simmo, it's easy, Bale will NEVER be as good as Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a couple levels above. Ronaldo at 23 was a level above.

Sydney!


11.) Bendan

He will never be a Ronaldo because he isn't tha same player as Ronaldo.
whjy are you obsessed with comparing everyone against Ronaldo, thare is only one Ronaldo like there is Messi, Bale, Roonety etc.
However I do agree with you on the transfer fee.

Simmo


12.) "Think most of you are forgetting what the player wants! And that's to stay at spurs at least one more season THEN go abroad, united are NOT on his agenda"

Noname,
1 - things change in football on a weekly basis, let alone from one season to the next
2 - players and managers have been known to lie from time to time (in fact regularly)

I doubt Bale will ever end up at OT but to think you know how his career will pan out is ridiculous due to the 2 points above.

HB


13.) Sydney

Get a grip for god sake and take your silly red blinkers off.
You can't determine how good a player is going to be, it's just plain stupid!
How do you know what Bale is going to be like in 3 years time?
He might be better than Ronaldo in 3 years time or he may not improve one bit but one thing is certain you just can't predict these things.
Just like last season when you predicted that we would DEFINATELY BUY A CENTRAL MIDFIELDER! Guess what we never did.

Simmo


14.) Simmo, we bought Kagawa and Powell last summer. Both central midfielders.

I think you have been reading too many newspapers where they keep reporting RM will bid £85m for Bale.

Bale is nowhere near as good as Ronaldo was at 23.

Sydney!


15.) Simmo the question was who would you prefer out if the 2? Therefore to answer that question you have to compare them don't you or how could you possibly make a decision??

Brendan81


 

 

01 Jun 2013 13:46:30
What does anyone actually think about Strootman? good player and up to the standards of United?

SamMackness

1.) Sam I believe I'm the only person on here that thinks Strootman would not take us to another level which is a big ask for someone who is playing in the u21 finals this summer (that sets the alarm bells off immediately)
I don't see any recognised sports news agencies linking him with us and truly believe he is no better than Anderson which will cause a debate.
We need a player who can influence that position just like Van Persie did in his role this last season.
So do you see United paying £15/20 m for at best a Europa cup player because I don't.
Dylan {Ed004's Note - What would play in the U21's have to do with anything? Mata, De Gea and plenty more players of high quality played in the last tournament and captain of that team was JAVI MARTINEZ! can you tell me you wouldn't have wanted Javi Martinez in our team this year? Remember Strootman is captain of a very strong Dutch team and will captain the U21's as well}


2.) £36m for Martinez was a lot to pay granted he's made a massive impact but your surely not placing Strootman in his class are you?
My point is this Dembele a left sided midfielder who I would have any day over Stootman premier league proven who we could of signed ended up at Spurs now unless you know something about Anderson that we don't then fine but why did we not go for Dembele for
the same money?
Moyes may have his own plans for Anderson but I don't see him moving this summer so I only see a Scholes type replacement and that can only be Thiago.
Dylan


3.) He is what we need, he is big powerful and can score a few too!


4.) Not to mention Martinez played in the europa cup too last year. I don't see what the club he is playing for has to do with it, he plays for the second strongest team in his native country week in week out and he's only 23


5.) Caolan 2 is that Andy Carroll your on about!
He's big and powerful and scores a few
Dylan


6.) I'm not interested who individuals play for its if they'd improve us please answer my question Dembele or Strootman if both where available
Dylan


7.) 01 Jun 2013 17:23:45
dylan easy question, strootman all day long. Clearly the better player. Your talking guff all that only playing in the under twenty ones and europa. MrE


8.) 01 Jun 2013 17:56:41
Strootman is the better player and will get even better. Dembele isn't first choice for Belgium yet Strootman has captained the dutch national team.

Strootman is a cross between Ramires and Gattuso. He's got that hardman streak and the ability to impose himself on other players like Gattuso but with the running and playmaking skills of Ramires.

He can play as a holding midfielder or a box to box midfielder, and even as an attacking midfielder which is where he started his career.

How many players can control a game with his passing AND his physicality? Cus Strootman can.

The only potential issue is how long will it take him to step up to the pace and quality of the premier league. If he can do it quickly then by christmas you'll be singing his praises.

I expect him to make a big impact at our club, and I wouldn't be suprised to see teams like Real Madrid trying to sign him from us in a few years time (assuming he does join us this summer).

For me if we can get Strootman and Thiago this summer and maybe Wanyama next summer then we would have some of the best midfield options in world football.


9.) He must be some player I can't wait to see him shine in this tournament.
Dylan


10.) Why are City, chealsea, real, psg clubs who are willing to pay what it takes to get the very best at their clubs not linked with him.
Do you see my point, Henderson, Allen and Downing didn't improve liverpool.
Dylan


11.) 01 Jun 2013 19:03:51
Well it would do you some good to watch him and judge him on that rather than judging him by which clubs he's been linked to. I fully expect him to make the team of the tourdament unless someone comes though and really breaks out.


12.) Dylan City have Yaya, Rodwell, Garcia, Milner & Barry, hardly in need of a midfielder are they?

Chelsea have Ramires, Lampard, Mikkel, Luiz, hardly in need of a midfielder are they?

Real have Modric, Alonso, and god knows who else, hardly in need of a midfielder are they?

Should I go on?

We have Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson. I think we might need a midfielder.

He's a guy who's captained both his club and country at a relatively young age.

Your basically rejecting him because he's not linked to clubs who have no need to buy in that position. Frankly a bit of a childish reaction. He has been linked to AC Milan, but I guess you don't consider them a big club.

As Shappy says try watching the player.

Mort


13.) 01 Jun 2013 19:48:22
you need to learn to take what you read in the press with a large pinch of salt. Just because the press link a player with a club it doesn't mean the club are interested in that player at all. In fact most of the time its a load of crap. The press don't know much more than we do, plus they will link players to attract readers. But by the same token just because a player hasn't been linked to a club it doesn't mean the club aren't interested in him.

Maybe PSG, City, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona, AC Milan and Juventus have all inquired about Strootman and maybe they were were told Strootman only wants to move to United. Or maybe their interest has gone unnoticed by the press. Or maybe none of those teams currently have a need for a player like Strootman. Certainly you could argue that he doesn't suit the Barca style, and Bayern Real Madrid and Juventus all have very strong midfields. Chelsea and City have other areas their concentrating on. And PSG have Matuldi and Veratti so they don't need someone like Strootman.


14.) 01 Jun 2013 19:49:47
So that just leaves us and AC Milan, which funnily enough are the two teams he's been linked with.


15.) If Bale Ronaldo messi then at the next level Modric, vidal etc became available I'd expect loads of interest from the top sides.
I don't see a 23year old who plays/Captains his national team plays in a recognised league which is heavily scouted not being in big demand if he's as good as you believe
Mort I think City would replace Barry Chealsea would replace Ramires if a player you describe to be this good was available.
Holland journalist generally are aware of any major interest from premier league clubs.
My gut feeling is he's another Zakora Thioti type not quite good enough for the top sides.
I'm going to give him a chance to prove me wrong in the coming weeks
Dylan


16.) 01 Jun 2013 20:57:07
To be honest mate i'm at a complete loss as to how you can judge someone you've never seen play.

As me and Mort have said the other top clubs aren't in need of a player like him atm. If they were they would be interested i'm sure.

If a top class goalkeeper became available and a top class right back would you rather we signed them then sign players for positions we need? Or would you think that was stupid?

Cus that's what your expecting other clubs to do, and then because they aren't you are writing off a very good player who you haven't seen play. Do you see how ridicluas your arguement looks now?

If you watched him and he didn't impress you that's one thing, but you seem to expect him to have impressed you with you not even watching him.


17.) 01 Jun 2013 22:34:32
shappy I don't think anything we say makes any difference. He's made his mind up and Strootman needs to score hat tricks in his next six games to make an impression. Mort


18.) I think you maybe right Mort, you can lead a horse to water and all that.


 

 

 

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