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03 Oct 2013 16:57:19
Everton fan here, but do you still think Moyes should be given time?(at least until the end of next season) or do you think he should go if you fail to qualify for the champions league

1.) Definitely needs to get until Xmas 2014. It isn't his team yet and he is only trying to do the decent thing by the players (too much respect going on if you ask me), but it is going wrong as they all think they deserve to play and he isn't being advised properly.

We'll qualify easily out of our Champ League group.

2.) We'll still get top 4 as well.

3.) As far as I'm concerned, unless there is exceptional circumstances, every manager should be given at least one full season to make their mark. However, I also believe that a manager's first season in charge is a probation period in which they have to show that they are capable of matching the club's expectations. If they fail to prove that they are up to the task after this period, then they need to go.

4th place is the absolute minimum that we should expect from Moyes this year. He is taking over a club that has never finished below third place in the premier league era, he has inherited a squad that won the league at a canter last time, in his own words he had unlimited transfer funds at his, and he brought in his own coaching team. He will have no excuse if the team doesn't finish at least fourth in the table. And if he fails to qualify for the champions league, he is simply not up to the job.

4.) Danny, I agree.

5.) The first season post Fergie was always going to be a dodgy one. The fact we were left with a ticking timebomb in terms of age of some players as well as inadequate midfield has just meant, combined with a new pair of eyes looking at it all, the cracks have just appeared quicker.

He needs time for sure and I think even United can't be stupid enough to give him a 6 year deal and sack him after one.

If we fail to qualify for Champs League though then that's £30m+ minimum we lose out on in all important revenue and my honest opinion is he'd only be allowed to do that once.

Agree with the post he's here til Xmas 2014 as a minimum. If we finish outside Top4 this season though and there are no signs of improved form Xmas next year then there's bound to be serious questions asked.

I think part of our problem though, is the club has de-sensitised to an extent due to success over last 20 seasons back to back. Being out of league contention or missing out on Champs League is hard for people to compute now lol.

I remember when praying for a good cup run back in the 70s and 80s was all we had to look forward to (hence wanting to have Frank Stapleton's babies when he scored a last minute winner against your lot in FA Cup 6th round in 83!)

6.) Good post danny, I will get behind the team at every game but I think dm is out of his depth, I don't expect to see him at ot next season

7.) 04 Oct 2013 10:13:38
I'm getting really tired of all the "it was much worse in the old days" posts popping up during the last few weeks. Yes a lot of us remember the decades when a good cup run was the best we could hope for, and yes we supported the team regardless of the success, and it did make the little successes even sweeter on the few occasions they arrived. But some people seem to be practically relishing the prospect of a few barren years due to some misguided belief that it will separate the "real" supporters from the glory people

Alex Ferguson's enduring legacy at this club is that we expect to win and we are not happy unless we are winning trophies. This isn't a negative trait. The club mentality that Fergie has built during the last two and a half decades is one should not be chucked because a new manager has taken over. Moyes was sold to supporters on the basis of continuity and the most important thing that must continue is the desire to win trophies. The Busby years created a similar mentality but that was ruined by the poor manner in which the transition period was handled.

Supporting a club means sticking with them through the bad times. But it also means that you want and expect your club to win. The fact that most United supporters cannot fathom us not competing for the league is a good thing, it illustrates how successful SAF has been in turning us into winners. And there is no reason why we should be happy to accept the prospect of not competing for league titles now that he has gone. We are still one of the biggest football clubs in the world, and we should expect nothing less than success the same way that Real, Barca, Bayern and all the other huge clubs expect it.

07 Aug 2013 17:14:50
Everton fan here, please take Fellaini off us, bye.

1.) I'm hoping we do. He'd be a tank with us. Better players = better Fellaini.

2.) I think he's lost interest in playing for us now, not suprising really.

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I think he's lost interest in playing for us now, not suprising really.