06 Jan 2016 18:17:47
Ed02 if you have time, I haven't been in here much lately, but I seen the other day where you said Anderson would be in for a bit of a culture shock if he moves, ed with the way players are pampered now and looked after, I can't see there been much of a culture shock, at the same time there might be reasons I don't understand myself, so I would just like to hear your opinion on that one, cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what you mean by "pampered and looked after", but if he moves he will be heading to a city where everything is totally different to what he is used to - language, culture, food, weather etc..}


1.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 19:34:52
You've just got to put yourself in his position mate, imagine being a young lad moving across Europe to a country with an unfamiliar language, most probably leaving your family and most certainly friends behind. Of course he will have plenty of help to settle by the club but it's still going to be tough for anyone.

{Ed002's Note - So how does this "help" manifest itself?}


2.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 19:49:13
They get houses bought for them, cars, clothes, if they can't drive they get driven around, the bank account tots up nicely, I don't buy this culture shock thing. I worked in Bosnia for 2 years after the war and I wasn't getting a fraction of their money.


3.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 19:55:05
Liaison officers look after things such as housing, transport, even mobile phones so I've heard. That's the kind of help I was referring to.

{Ed002's Note - You are completely deluded, as is the previous poster who thinks the club buy the players houses etc..

The "liaison officers" deal with players on loan and the kiddies.}


4.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 20:09:34
This is direct from crystal palaces website regarding a player liaison officer, under job specification:

Assisting with relocation requirements for new players including trialists, in terms of hotel bookings, travel arrangements, housing, schooling, banking arrangements, setting up NI numbers, showing them around the local area and helping them to settle.
Assisting players with managing all aspects of their personal life such as utility bills, mortgage payments, travel documents, banking etc.
Arrange vehicle hire or purchases when required.

{Ed002's Note - Trialists and kiddies. These are for pre-18 year olds and other youngsters not for first team players. You are completely deluded about how any of this works.}


5.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 20:23:03
There are plenty of articles about them, which contain interviews of these officers that state otherwise but I won't argue anymore, sorry to waste your time.

{Ed002's Note - Let me know how Anderson gets on at school after being taken there by the Crystal Palace liaison officer.}


6.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 20:30:11
I must admit that I thought that overseas players had help with settling in but, thinking about it, Ed002 hints at a reality which must be very lonely for a young man who doesn't speak the language (though maybe Periera could give him a few tips), has no friends and, once morning training is finished, what can he do? Play the X box in his hotel for the rest of the day? Really can't be easy - even though the money is amazing. Perhaps he has some family/ friends to bring with him to help him settle and navigate the geography and culture.

Though one would hope he'd have the motivation to quickly learn a few phrases and spend his spare time practising skills😉.


7.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 20:36:37
Ed02 they would buy houses for some players, I watched Paul gaza, DVD last week he was on his way to sign for United and Spurs rang him and bought a house for his parents and a car, they even bought a subbed for his sister, I'm pretty sure this still goes on, Damien duff and I know this for sure was given an apartment in London when he signed for Chelsea, it goes on at all the top clubs.

{Ed002's Note - For "his parents" and behavior like that is no longer allowed within the game. I can tell you of stories from the past where multiple players from one EPL side were paid tax free in Monaco, of players paid in oil paintings and classic cars. Chelsea has a number of apartments where players can stay until they find a home of their own -many have used these. You are seemingly so far from understanding how any of this works it is untrue.}


8.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 20:43:24
Maybe Anderson the first got lonely and comfort ate.


9.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 21:13:37
I will admit ed I have no clue how it works, I think you could be right there rewz.


10.) 06 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 21:19:38
I believe its to do with your character. I ledt home in burnley and joined the navy in plymouth having just turned 17. This is some 16 years ago now. No friends, strange environment, no "liason officer" but if you embrace it and continually learn and have a positive attitudeyou grow into your new surroundings. Now i'm not comparing my profession to that of a foriegn footballer coming to england. But if i'm not mistaken anderson is a brazilian who moved to italy at a young age. So he's been there before. Now i know nothing of his attitude but i'm pretty sure if he's had success elsewhere at a younger age he's had the preperation to succeed at another foriegn city albeit manchester at a now more mature age of 22.


11.) 07 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 21:17:17
What a hard life for them eh. For £200k a week I would be quite happy with the rest of the days to myself after a measly 3 hour training session. If he has any ambition to stay long term and make a name for himself he could take language classes etc in state time to help settle in.


12.) 07 Jan 2016
06 Jan 2016 21:50:12
In my opinion you are both correct ed002 and red Andy, of course it wil be a culture shock and of course he will get help with buying a house, mortgage and setting up bank accounts etc if he wants and more importantly if he signs.

{Ed002's Note - Let me be clear, Manchester United are no going to be buying Anderson a house. As I said, you all seem to have no idea about how any of this works at all.}


13.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 02:04:44
Ed002 I personally know two players who have moved to clubs in both England and Russia who have been 'taken care off' so to speak. The one who moved to Russia a few years back was a family member and I can categorically state he was set up in a luxurious apartment in Moscow and he sold the place upon his departure.

The other who was a PL footballer (now plays Championship after last seasons relegation) was also helped out with accomodation and I know for a fact his inner city apartment was paid for by his current club. Maybe it is an underhanded tactic and is outlawed in the rules of the game and if that is the case these clubs in question have not took any notice of that rule.

{Ed002's Note - A few years ago in Russia, right - and I can explain all sorts of other things that went on with payers being paid via limited companies who hold the image rights, and one been paid through an interior design company he owns and many other tricks that have been used. All such practices are outlawed now - they are illegal. Numerous players who used the image rights tricks had to pay a great deal of money to the Inland Revenue. I appreciate that everyone here is convinced that Manchester United are working illegally and will be buying houses etc. for the players - and that is something the Inland Revenue would be very pleased to know some detail about, Companies House would be interested in the fraudulent accounts the business has been submitting and FIFA would have an absolute field day.

Quite, quite unbelievable.}


14.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 10:10:22
The lad is a young Brazilian moving to England. Remind me how many Brazilians have moved to Manchester and been a sucess?

Yes he moved to Rome, but have you ever been to Rome and thought "this place is just like Manchester"?

There is a massive culture shock for latin Americans coming to England. Especially the north west where the weather is slightly different to what their used to.

Also you might want to look into how Anderson coped in his first year in Rome? He struggled to adapt to living and playing in Rome. Which is much closer to what he experienced back home in Brazil to what he would experience in England.

The lad would likely live upto the legacy of his namesake.


15.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 16:10:02
Two things, wasn't there an article about how Klopp was living in Brendan's old flat? I doubt Brendan needed the money that much that he felt inclined to rent it out to his replacement. doesn't that hint at Liverpool owning the apartment and allowing their manager use of it?

Secondly, unrelated to football, the governor of the Bank of England is allocated a set amount of money for his housing as an expense and is therefore not paid for by him after tax, I am sure that football clubs can offer accommodation pre-tax so as to add to a player's total package?


16.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 18:47:24
Fifa would love something like that to take the heat off their own fraudulent illegal behaviour.