Manchester United Banter Archive January 16 2013

16 Jan 2013 22:42:27
It was strange at OT tonight the crowd was very flat. Rooney played absolutely bobbins and that is the 10th penalty he has missed for United that is 40% of his penalties. Who is allowing him to continue to take them or is it part of his contract that he takes them. I wonder if Fergie will bring him back for Sunday. I would leave him on the bench and make him work hard to get back in the team because on tonights performance he wouldn't bring anything positive. Carrick showed just why Fergie plays him every game and Anderson showed why he shouldn't have the ball in his own half. Still fourth round here we come. I AM KLOOT {Ed004's Note - I agree I thought both Rooney and Nani were shocking tonight and RVP should be the penalty taker no doubt about it}

I agree RVP should take most of our dead balls, he's a cut above Rooney on pens. Rooney and Nani looked rusty but I think they deserve time after being out. Hopefully we'll see a better Rooney on Sunday.

Gav

First game back from injury, impossible to judge.

GDS

No Name,

I am not a stat guy but if what you have posted is correct that is an incredibly poor number and surprised we even let him take them. Surely there must be someone in the squad who can do better than that and it could be a defender for all I care.

Shahram

16 Jan 2013 22:21:46
I was wondering if anyone could let me know if these Ronaldo summer move rumors have any truth to them? Being from America its difficult to get credible information on United rumors.
Kennedy

I think so, he wants 2 come back but i think it will be summer 2014 hope im wrong zee

16 Jan 2013 22:06:11
That last 20 mins we saw the best Left Wing performance in United shirt for a while...by Ryan Giggs of all people! Some of his runs, interplay and vision was top notch.

I said I was worried to see him in CM before the game but TBF he did OK there too, but when he moved out wide he looked like the Giggs of old! Fair play to him and I apologise for any doubts.

Giggs has shown again that he's a useful player. I really hope SAF keeps him out wide from now on. He'd make a great impact sub on 70 odd mins, even against the likes of Real.

Gav

On the bobcat interview SAF said he will do another year


Pardoe

16 Jan 2013 22:24:18
Glad to see us come through unscathed. A win, clean sheet and and no injuries. The performance wasn't great but it felt relatively comfortable. That's all we could have hoped for with so many changes.

Some positives:

Ando, Nani, Rooney all gaining match fitness
Rafeal immense again
Jones was like a beast in 4 or 5 challenges, he looked good
Giggs proved he's still very, very useful (I may have been wrong about him!)

Our wingers:

Valencia and Nani were frustrating at times. Nani gets let off because it was his first game back and he did at least run at players and try to cause problems. Valencia was way too safe 1st half, but interestingly in a short period of the 2nd half when he was forced to run at the LB he actually got past him and put the ball in the box. Ineffective from the wingers on the night but I think there are signs that things may just 'click' into place. Let's hope at least!

Last point on Buttner, again lost possession or got caught out at times but for me some signs of promise going forward. I do admire his direct style, not a million miles away from the twins when they first arrived. Not yet good enough to challenge for Evra's place but I do think it's worth giving Buttner time and patience, to see how far he develops. He's bound to be rusty at this stage, after such a big move.

Overall, a lacklustre performance but we got everything we wanted out of the game. Now onwards to Spurs on Sunday, with the majority of our squad back to full fitness for the first time in ages! (touch wood)

Gav

16 Jan 2013 21:48:49
After tonight's insipid display can anyone not believe that Nani should be sold ASAP. All his old failings on display, as was the weakness of our midfield.
Paulo.

Give him a chance- he's just coming back from injury! He try's to make things happen, therefore will lose the ball more often than, say Carrick.

Yes he's frustrating, but so are all our wingers. I think he needs a few games grace to get back to fitness before we all start slating him again. I for one will give him that.

DodgyBanter

Bit harsh being his first game back after a long spell out. Nani is far from popular on this site but he deserves more of a chance than that.

Gav

Plus - if you want to sell Nani judging on tonight's performance - you should put Toni up for sale first.

Mike

16 Jan 2013 21:40:00
Am I the only one who thinks Buttner has been superb tonight and I actually really enjoy watching him play at left back.

I like his direct style going forwards. Still rusty at times in possession and at the back but he has plenty of time to improve those areas. Reminds me a little of the 'rash' Brazilian twins when they first arrived but with a good strike off his left boot.

Gav

16 Jan 2013 21:00:31
Anderson gives man utd a different dimension.

He will take on a man and for his size isnt short of pace!

Get him fit fergie and keep him fit!

Big V

I thought Lardinho was poor tonight. He looked like on of those tubby celebs in Soccer Aid.
Every time we are going forward he loses the ball leaving us exposed.
The only way we can pay him is to have 2 in midfield behind him. We coped against a makeshift west ham but against a proper team that midfield would have been torn apart

16 Jan 2013 20:45:19
Is it me or do we seem very reluctant to give buttner the ball at times?

Caolán.

I couldnt agree more. We seem to favour the right wing a lot more and I don't see why as Valencia can not even beat Potts nowadays..... He has to be replaced.

Correct we needed to go left and give it ti Nani

Pardoe

I personally think valencia should be sold as he's not the player he was and seems reluctant to take deffenders on any more.

davey red

16 Jan 2013 20:40:02
Valenci

16 Jan 2013 20:18:14
i think never mind guardiola we could make a management team on here. Shappy as chief scout. Jono as goalkeeping coach. Sydney as chief executive/ finance director. Just for Bond Hayley McQueen as pr. Any other suggestions? O and i've reserved Phelens job of sitting doing little for myself. Mort.

Im having the chief scouts job shappy can be the kit man !

George

Hmmm you appear to be short a key man in your management team. Who would be Manager?......Kloot? Lol.

Shappy

What does that make Kloot? The crazy pigeon man that nobody dares go within a ten metre radius of haha !
sparky

Haha, Kloot can be the bus driver to the away games..... I have heard he is good with directions.

16 Jan 2013 21:51:17
i didn't want to pick manager, would cause too many arguments. Or mention kloot but he'd be great for fan relations. Mort

I'll be a kit cleaner!

-JakeW

Ill be the guy who satisfies all your wives/girlfriends while your away... or the John Terry of our club :P

Ill call assistent manager, just to get Phelen out lol plus im better looking ;)
Chris the REDman

Damn see you reserved it Mort....
ok ill go for ball boy :(
Chris the REDman

I'll supply half time oranges

Supasub

16 Jan 2013 20:17:48
Rooney looks a lot fitter now. He showed great pace for his goal.

Ozzy

16 Jan 2013 20:14:05
I have been one of his biggest detractors, but I really hope that Nani plays well today/in the future. With Valencia and Young's sketchy form he really needs to step up and realise the form he was in 18months/2 years ago.
However I am quite set in my ways and don't hold out much hope of that happening, but you never know

Jaxer

16 Jan 2013 20:05:55
Shahram

I have Raf anytime, Nani double, Chelsea-2 and tranmere double.

Jono

16 Jan 2013 19:54:52
Hello there, I say would one of you splendid chaps be so awfully good as to give one some directions? You see one was looking for the Manchester United page but one seems to have inadvertently wondered onto the Pep Guardiola page instead. Thanks awfully, yours Bertie Wooster.

16 Jan 2013 19:41:43
So apparently it's Manchester United's fault that the media writes about Suarez when he acts like an person on the pitch. What world does this guy live in, everybody knows the media loves Liverpool.

16 Jan 2013 20:11:26
did you know his agent is guardiolas brother? Could be interesting come summer.

I have seen this article too. He also admits to diving (cheating) to win the penalty at Stoke, but claims he is hard done by!! He also admits that he was racist to Evra, but says it is okay because it was said on a football pitch. Oh yeah, and United control the FA too!

Red Pedro

16 Jan 2013 19:28:15
Giggs and Anderson in midfield today unless Valencia is in midfield, which I would like to see.

16 Jan 2013 18:45:23
I think some people are dissapointed to here that Pep is going to take over at Bayern. I however think that this is an excellent move as we will really see his managerial capabilities given that German is not his first language, he's not used to the League etc. It will be a good test of him and it will prove to us if he is any good or not. He could stay in Germany for a couple of seasons then come over to us - there is no guarantee that SAF will retire this summer or even the following summer. If his health is okay I am sure that he will want to continue for as long as possible - especially if we still haven't won the CL by the end of this or next season.

Fresh!

16 Jan 2013 17:57:25
With Pep off to Bayern for 3 years, it appears he is waiting for Fergie to step down so he can take over at OT. Does anyone else agree?

16 Jan 2013 19:06:25
No i think he's thought about what's best for his career and took the job that most suits him. Think people are reading far too much into things.

Or better still wait for the next manager i.e. Moyes to come in blow up and take then next vacant job.

Pardoe

16 Jan 2013 19:35:46
God no anyone but Moyes. I'd rather have the waiter...

16 Jan 2013 17:48:29
2 rubbish and over chewed stories put to bed this week.
Guardiola agreed to join bayern. And ronaldo will run down his contract. Only way to get out of madrid.

Great.
Rodio17

And you expect Madrid to allow their prize asset just ti run down his contract and leave for free....not really the way it works fella!

16 Jan 2013 18:26:39
Pep guardiola joining bayern munich fc means sir alex ferguson is not ready to leave at the end of the season....Might ve told PeP he is not ready to go yet..just sayn

Pep only went to Bayern after he was turned down for the Scotland job.

Jono

16 Jan 2013 18:15:51
guardiola signing for bayern, rules him out for us and citeh thankfully

16 Jan 2013 17:28:32
So much for the whole guardiola meeting fergy in ny = guardiola next united manager theory

Maybe Pep wanted his advice on his next move?

16 Jan 2013 17:22:27
Anyone think gill is only saying that united are waiting until summer to buy zaha, because he may already have struck a deal. I just think this because if they wanted him they wouldn't risk leaving it and let arsenal get him!?

16 Jan 2013 17:12:51
Ed you once replied to my post tht there are lot of people inside utd who wld like pep 2 be our next manager nw wat are your thoughts about our next manager when he has agreed to take over bayern {Ed007's Note - I have said all along I think it will be Neil Lennon, Jose or Laurent Blanc.}

Bond surely you mean John Lennon as he has got to be a better manager than Neil and he's dead

Pardoe

Neil Lennon? Hope your joking ed!

Craig

Neil lennon ? i nearly spit my coffee out, surely you can't believe he would have any chance whatsover of getting fergies job
johndenton

I can remember seeing a comment along those lines just before christmas. It may have been eds004??

Guardiola and Bayern are a good match though I think :)

ALDUtd

Love seeing your funny side Ed, I wonder how many people on here are now seriously considering Neil Lennon. I think that either SAF will stay on and we will get Pep in 3 years, or we will hire Mourinho as a stop gap. This makes sense as Mourinho has a big enough ego to take the job on, but he is not one to build a dynasty, Pep however would stay for a long time I feel. Lauren Blanc could do well here, difficult to say - if he gets the job then he could stick around for a long time if he is successful.

Fresh!

16 Jan 2013 17:11:31
IMO Bayern is the perfect club for Guardiola right now, top league, top club, good academy etc.

So do we all think he will replace SAF in 2016 if he does well?

Looks likely to me

Gav

16 Jan 2013 17:57:07
or maybe fergie will leave in either six months or eighteen months and we will appoint someone else.

Gav Fergie won't go on for 3 and a half years, i think he'll do 18 months at most. I think by the time Pep leaves Bm we'll already have had someone in the job for a couple of years.

I was just speculating, if SAF leaves earlier we could still buy him out of his last year of contract if we really wanted to. Personally, I've always fancied Klopp taking over. I just have a hunch that Pep may fancy the job though.

Gav

I hope Fergie leaves before then, sacry thought that he might stick around to 2016.

Shahram

16 Jan 2013 16:38:01
In tonight's game id like to see us play some really fast free flowing football, because when we play fast football no side can match us, I'm glad to hear Anderson, Rooney and Nani are back. Hopefully Nani can recapture his old form from a few seasons ago!

Caolán.

16 Jan 2013 16:59:34
good he needs to get his value back up so we get a good deal when we sell

Totally agree Caolan.. Could be a long night 4 the hammers..

Patzi

Giggs and scholes will start ...

16 Jan 2013 16:22:14
Well, Guardiola going to Bayern shouldn't come as much of a surprise. This has probably reinforced my opinion of him as, tactically, very one-dimensional and totally uncreative. No shock then that he decides to go to the club with the style of play closest to Barcelona, makes his job that less challenging. Bayern should be interesting to watch next season.

What a ridiculous comment. We've just missed out on of the best coaches who could have taken over from saf and actually improved our club.
14 trophies in 4 seasons and you think he's " one dimensional"?
This is a sad development as he is one of the best two coaches around.
Hope we'll not live to regret this. But I have a feeling we will.
Nomidfield

Imo, Dortmund are closer to Barcelona's style than Bayern.

Gar

How do you know Fergie willn't manage for another 3 years? I don't think this rules him out at all.

16 Jan 2013 18:07:31
how did we miss out? Bayern had a vacancy due to the manager retiring. We didn't have a vacancy as no one including fergie knows what he's going to do.

No Name

It is a ridiculous comment and and typical immature biased s..it. How old are you and what is your point about Barca's style ?

You don't like it or agree as I would take their style over ours any day. They sure made us look like a bunch of school boys when we played them.

Shahram

16 Jan 2013 16:14:56
sorry for the copy and paste guys, but this is some interesting info regarding Zaha....

United chief executive David Gill has spoken to a web site about the continued speculation linking Wilfried Zaha with a move to Old Trafford. Here's what David had to say: "He's one of the players we're looking at, that's all I would say at the moment, but even if we did do something with Wilfried, that would be for the summer. What I'm saying is I'm not going to comment. I've been in football too long to say a deal is not done until it's done. We're looking and we'll see what happens, but there is a long way to go."

16 Jan 2013 16:40:45
he must be confident though to even speak about the transfer. He could easily have just gone no comment.

It could be a Smalling type deal.

Sydney!

16 Jan 2013 16:02:08
Pep confirmed as Bayern boss for next 3 years. starts July

Stuey

16 Jan 2013 16:02:00
Pep to bayern 3 year deal

16 Jan 2013 15:56:56
Pep guardiola confirmed as bayern Munich new coach begging July it's on a website

LUKE CHADWICKS LOVE CHILD

16 Jan 2013 15:55:13
So it looks like Pep Guardiola may be joining Bayern Munchen, personally I don't mind seeing him do this as I wouldn't want Fergie out yet, let us hope he decides to carry on doing what he does best!

-JakeW

16 Jan 2013 14:51:11
Whatever d case wid zaha but sum say he not good enough. Well in short he runs past players wid his brilliant stepovers and great pace but has no end product. So he is poor man's Lucas.

But at a third of the cost of Lucas with no problems of settling into a new country and culture, no language issues, and no culture shock of how physical the league is....

Wasn't ronaldo like that when he joined

Ross

Lucas had no end product as well so i don't know why your comparing the two.

Simmo

Confused much?? Can anyone translate for me?

I think it translates as 'I've banged my head'

AJH

16 Jan 2013 13:47:43
Man United share increase values club at £1.63 billion

January 16, 2013 Manchester United are worth £1.63 billion


Manchester United's share price reached its highest level for months after the Premier League leaders announced partnerships with two major Chinese companies.

Shares in United, which had sunk as low as $12.00 after last summer's partial flotation on the New York Stock Exchange, rose to $15.54, before ending Tuesday's trading at $15.29.

Prices shot up after the announcement of three-year deals with soft drinks manufacturer Wahaha and China Construction Bank, who will produce an official United-branded credit card.

Both are specific to the Chinese market, where the 19-time champions of England claim to have 108 million followers.

The news, which took United's total of official sponsors in various markets to 44, saw the share price rally.

United sold 10% of shares in the club in an Initial Public Offering (IPO) in August when the Glazers - their owners - hoped to achieve a price of $20 each, which could have valued the club at $3.3 billion (£2.06 billion).

But after underwriters initially propped the share price up, it fell as low as $12, which valued the club at just under $2 billion.

At a price of $15.29, United's overall value would be $2.62 billion (£1.63 billion).

(ESPN) Aesop

Can you imagine how high they will rise when the new Nike deal is agreed.

Sydney!

Syd, If it is so well-known then it must be almost priced in.. Benoit.

You are right. That and the new TV deal which probably is not yet appreciated on the Street could take the stock up by several ticks. Who knows $20? Tempting for the Glazers to sell more stock at that point.

Aesop

As much as i hate what the glazers did, you can't complain with what direction the club is going (financally) we are a monster of a club and we keep growing.

Normal market fluctuations would mean very little to your average fan

Question for Ed002, if around? In your opinion, what amount would these shares need to rise to before the Glazers sold some more? $17 perhaps? More? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - It is not quite that simple Syd. It is the value they would attain at the time of floatation that is critical - not the time the peak at a transient value.}

God bless the Glazers...

16 Jan 2013 12:29:45
Just to go into something i said earlier about the wingers. How does this sound to people. Right wing we give Valencia time to sort himself out and retain him into next season. We buy Zaha as cover on the right, he's capable of playing wide right in a 442 and we can push him forward in a 433 as we move to a fluid style and eventually phase Valencia out to plan b. That leaves the left. How about selling both Nani and Young? If Harry can work a miracle i think he could take Young for fifteen, if we can sell Nani for fifteen to twenty we'd have between thirty and thirty five for replacements. Now we should be able to get something for that. I'd say Ince on a free if he doesn't move this window and then blow the lot on Rodriguez. Left wing looks a lot better and we won't have touched our main budget apart from Zaha which most of the money has been raised from sales anyway and a good chunk will be in add ons. Leaves us plenty to get midfield sorted, i'd go for Strootman. I'd also see if Madrid are tempted to sell Modric.

Sell Valencia. He is lumbering and one-dimensional. Keep Nani who is far better and younger. Rest makes sense.

Aesop

That does sound like a well structured idea, however football never goes as smoothly as this haha.

The Moon.

16 Jan 2013 13:43:40
Aesop Nani is far too inconsistant is on his way. Valencia has struggled this season but deserves the chance. Nani has had plenty and hasn't improved. Moon thanks i know most of it probably won't happen but its what i'd do. Makes sense and hopefully is what were looking at.

Nani has been inconsistent but has to go. Valencia has been consistently poor, why does he deserve a chance?

At this point in time non of our wingers are good enough, young is average, valencia is in dire form, and nani is inconsistant to say the least.

16 Jan 2013 15:15:40
Because Valencia is clearly struggling with the after effects of a career threatening injury. Before that injury he was in superb form, and he should be given time to try and get back to that form rather than chucked out the club after a bad half season where he is clearly taking one for the team and playing through the pain.

Nani has had numerous chances and has barely improved in 6 years at the club, he's woefully inconsistent, and has apalling decision making, worse set pieces (how many pro players do you know who can't clear the first man with a corner) is it worth keeping him for the 4 times a year he actually has a good game? No.

Would delve into this one if it weren't so anonymous!

Patzi

16 Jan 2013 12:02:45
I genuinely buy into this DDG story...

I do think that Barcelona will sign him in the summer and just like with Ronaldo I think the wheels are already in motion.

I do like DDG but lately he has made a couple of mistakes however he is still very young so he can be forgiven for those.

I guess i'm not really fussed if he leaves or not, although I would like us to go for somebody with the EPL...

Either; Vorm or Begovic.

People calling for Krul surely haven't seem him this season, it is probably his worst ever season, making as many mistakes as DDG and IMO he's not exactly much better if at all.

If we are going to look at youth keepers then I think we should either look at resigning Zieler - why we let this boy go is beyond me!

Or, the latest player from the best young keepers in the world Stegen.

And just to add more names to throw around, I would love us to sign anyone of these; Neuer, Handanovic, De Sanctis or Adler.

Who do you guys want to repace DDG?
Who do you guys think will replace DDG?

Ed, I haven't really heard your views on this lately...

The Moon. {Ed004's Note - I would rather we kept De Gea as I think he has a great career ahead of him. The only other keeper I see as an improvement is Neuer there as I rate him as the best in the world atm}

We have no chance of Neuer imo. If we sell DDG to Barca I would want a young midfielder from their academy like Tello or Sergi Roberto.

As to who will replace De Gea, Begovic is a sensible choice if we want someone with BPL eperience, but Ter Sengen and Thibaut Courtois are world class talents.

Mick

I do agree with you ed, i mean i defend DDG all the time and i strongly believe he will be an incredible keeper. However i do think if SAF could turn back time he would never have signed DDG for the price that he did.

im a believer but i don't think SAF is anymore.

in the EPL i only rate vorm, friedal, begovic, cech and the arsenal late higher.

The Moon.

Anyone mentioning Courtois or ter Stegen, get real.

Why would we ship out a prospect for another prospect, one who has played less important games, is of a similar age and just as likely to make a shakey start?!

RED_SKY

Because there might be different reasons for selling our prospect, including that he is not worth what we paid for, or that he didn't fit in the premier league, or he wants to go back home.

Mick

Moon

I want to replace with: 1 of Begovic, Muslera or Adler.

Who do I think will? Absolutely no idea but I do believe SAF is running with the idea that DDG has 4 months to prove himself.

Jono

Why is everyone so hot for Begovic, I'm not seeing it, what are you all seeing that I'm not.

It's just the norm once a player is linked to us in the papers

Jono your always against ddg. love the club stop hating on it. give the kid a chance and he will prove you wrong.

16 Jan 2013 09:48:11
So the story wit sneijder this morning is he will not be rushed into a decision on his future an he is also quoted as sayin money is not the issue for ........... So maybe there is more to this storey than people think .......... Maybe his hand is being forced an he is holdin strong on his decision not to be bullied by inter..... After all he has a contract for a certain amount Of money an the club decided that they no longer want to pay him his money so ask him to sign a new contract on lower wage or he won't play an will be sold off...... If my boss did this I would sit tight too I would not rush decisions an I would make it difficult for them similar to Wat wesley is doin ....... But this whole thing of its not a money issue could spark our interest hopefully......... So just incase it happens I'm making humble pie for certain posters(you know who you are)on here........ For no other reason but the condescending way you reply to people's "rumours".......

CAIN

Yeah, poor old Sneijder LOL, when will you understand that he had the chance to join Chelsea, City or us but instead asked for a ridiculous amount of cash. So much cash that City, yes City, refused to pay him. If he decides to lower his demands he could join a number of clubs, but until he does Gala is his only option. He's made his bed so he must lay in it.

Sydney!

Sydney

You don't know anything about why he didn't join these clubs.
Only the clubs involved, Sneijder and his Agent know what the real reason is.
Your information comes from sh*tty papers and lazy journalists who are wrong the majority of the time.
Thats unless you know Sneijder on a personal level.

Simmo

Syd I know who he was offered to an understand why moves in the past have not come off....... Everyone knows...... An lol all you want cause fact is I'm not sayin we will sign him im sayin we should sign him now when it's a better deal for us tgan it was 6 months ago but your narrow mind just says he won't sign end of cause "he had his chance" or "he made his bed"...... So we could of payed 30 mill last year an pay his stupid wage or we can get him now when fee is really low he said money is not the factor ie wage demand an if you can not understand this is a good peice of business then your comments amount to someone disgruntled because a player asked
your beloved club for more than he was offered which happens all the time at least now we can make senseable offers which should be hard to turn down if he wants to continue at top level.......... Can you understand ....... Do you understand ......... Or are you the type to cut off your nose to spite your face .... I think the latter ......... An we can all be condescending ....... It's just a pity cause we all want the same thing the club to succeed .........

CAIN

CAIN, I understand you really like Sneijder. I think we all get that. However it all boils down to risk and as a package he would cost any club a lot of money. Sneijder was never going to cost £30m, perhaps £20m, but now he is 18 months older and hasn't played a lot of football since then. He has had one outstanding season and that was three years ago. You cannot expect United, City or Chelsea to pay him a net salary of £130k a week and a £10m transfer fee for a player who's footballing career could be over. It's simply too risky and that's why Gala is his only option.

According to Miguel Delaney who claims to have good sources at the club he says United are still interested in Sneijder if the price is right. We are now 16 days into the window and only Gala are willing to buy him. What does that tell you? The man still refuses to lower his greedy demands. I wouldn't pay a 23 year old consistent Sneijder £250k a week, let alone a soon to be 29 year old Sneijder who has had one outstanding season and has done nothing since. Gala do not mind taking a risk when their tax rate is 15%. Ours is 50% so we would have a bigger risk.

Sydney!

Sydney please .........I do like sneijder despite him askin for the sun moon an sky .......... But you are way off the mark IMO ..... I believe my info is not concrete but is yours ....... You are throwing numbers around that you can't back up so just like my comments you don't know wats going on infact none of us do but you are convinced these are the facts when it's made up paper bull ......... I respect your comments but feel your blinded by stubrunness an made up facts

CAIN {Ed004's Note - Tbf to Sydney the fact that it is made clear by sneijders agent that he would like a move to England why do you think big clubs like city and chelsea are turning down a world class player for 8 million. Ed 2 has said that Sneijder has ridiculous wage demands}

CAIN, it's no secret that he wants his current Inter deal matched which is £130k a week net. Are you seriously telling me we should risk it and buy him? Well Chelsea, City & United will disagree.

In Palm Springs summer of 2011, Chelsea & City advisers met with Sneijder and his reps and they were left flabbergasted by what he wanted. United had several meetings and he wouldn't budge. The man only has himself to blame for what is happening. I am sure if he drops his demands an EPL club will talk to him. But it hasn't happened yet so perhaps it's wise not to hold your breath.

Scholes still needs replacing, I am sure if he was reasonable with what he wants we would start talks again.

Sydney!

I have to say I agree with Syd.

Whilst none of us know what sort of figures him or his agent are asking for, the very fact that he's available for a knock down price and no other club other than Gala are in for him should be shouting something.

Its not just us, City or Chelsea. What about Arsenal or PSG? What about the German clubs? Or a move back to Spain? What about the Russian clubs? Unlilkely i know but you'd expect them to at least bid so they could at least speak to him and try to tempt him to Russia. Nothing.

If every major club from all the major European leagues are stearing clear then it says a lot.

Either he's making really stupid demands and no-one wants to know; or people are waiting till nearer the end of the window for him to get desperate and drop his demands as the moment he's stuck with only 2 options, stay at a club he doesn't want to stay at or sign for a club he doesn't want to go to. He's painted himself into a corner. And he only has himself to blame.

He's not as good as he thinks he is. I would have signed him at Ajax but on sensible money. He wasn't exactly stand out at Madrid and made it clear he wasn't interested in an exchange deal for Ronaldo. Then at Inter he had 1 good season 3 years ago and has shown signs of decline since. And he did seriously mess us around a couple of years ago. Fergie doesn't forget stuff like that.

Thats my take anyway, Mort

So you where at these meeting in palm springs an you heard Wat he wanted ..... Oh I didn't know tat why didn't you say this before ......... This clears up everything ......... Nice to know this is not just a made up story cause syd was there, Jesus that's great how did you swing it.................or is this something your heard or read.........

CAIN

CAIN if you're gonna learn anything from visiting this site, trust in what Ed002 says.

Seems this Sydney bloke knows everything or is just making it up

If sneijder was asking for mega money a couple of years ago maybe he and the wife never wanted to leave inter and it was going to take mega cash to convince him to leave.None of the top teams need him at the mo prob got more chance of a big move in the summer

Simmo, grow a brain. Ask either Ed002 or Ed001 and they will tell you Sneijder's wage demands were to high for Chelsea, City & United during last summer.

Sydney!

CAIN, confirmed by Ed002. Perhaps you should listen to people.

Like I have said if he lowers his demands I cannot see why we wouldn't put another package together for him.

But I believe he will reject them like he rejected the other offers.

Sydney!

LOL...you were in Palm Springs then in the Summer of 2011 was you Syd. My word you get around.
What happened to your bold prediction of us DEFINATELY buying a central midfileder before the start of last season?

Simmo

Syd as I said I respect anybody who comments but even the almighty eds can get it wrong I'm not sayin they are wrong but could be ...... Some info they share is gold an some is just fluff because if they where in the know this would be a fact site no rumours no banter just facts ........ Still though it's nice havin a debate wit someone who has passion ........ I'm kind of a fan of yours syd due to some of your insight an hope you don't take any of my comments as any sort of personal attack on you ..... Iv just read them back an we can both be mean ha ha ..... So tell you Wat give me my lunch money back an we can be pals again ........;)

CAIN

Simmo, did we not try and buy Nasri? Conformed by player and SAF.

Did we not try to sign Sneijder? Confirmed by Moratti & Sneijder.

We certainly tried to buy a central midfielder.

Sydney!

Sneijder will be playing football in Turkey next month. I do not see him going anywhere else sorry.

Sydney!

Well said CAIN, Syd you seem to throw a tantrum when anybody questions where you got your information from or don't agree with your predictions (none of which have come true yet)
Phehaps if you look through your posts you will see why.
No need to get nasty now is there?

Simmo

RE Sneijder June 6th 2011 {Ed002's Note - He has been in Palm Springs considering his options. If there were not a choice somewhere down the line, there would be no options to consider. Just a thought.}

For funny boy Simmo.

Sydney!

Simmo, I don't get nasty. Any information I get is from direct quotes from the player, agent, manager etc or from Ed002. I keep tabs on certain journalists, but keep an open mind.

Sydney!

Was ed at these meetings .......

CAIN {Ed002's Note - I reported back on teh meetings at the time (in June 2011) and the very surprising expectations of the player and his representatives were discussed here then.}

So you were just passing the edd info on

You do make it sound like it you that's in the know {Ed002's Note - He was in the know given what I had told him 18 months ago.}

I have made it clear on this page several times that I have no "source" within OT. I have never pretended to either.

Sydney!

16 Jan 2013 09:04:43
This could be rio's last chance to win an F.A. Cup medal. He has won a lot in his career with us but this is the only club medal that could complete his collection. It would be a good way to finish for him. Or just win the treble!

Sparky

15 Jan 2013 20:13:59
Hi everyone visitors and all, Great weekend, 2 great matches but prove that the keeper is only as good as the defence. DDG is going to be the best in the world in 2 years time no doubt, and all you haters will be kicking yourselves... When you sing his praises and your pre post put downs are remembered by all that sing his praises now. Apart from needing to put on a pound or too, I have watched him closely and needs to learn to use his left arm more and not always his right.. He and united would benefit more from this, as he tends to use his right arm for all saves.

In the video link you will notice it. I will move on now... I wish SAF would have a go at WS again with an equal offer to inter and a PPW that suits MU. I'm sure he would bite at it rather than go to Galatasary, what's he to loose as he knows he is out the door at Inter and our lads would learn a great deal from him if be it only for a season or 2 but 8 million is a steal. If that's a no then Strootman or Gaitan are a must and we have not looked at the defence yet.... With Vidic injured (again) and becoming prone, yes I said it prone considering we banged on all last summer that £24mill for an injury prone RVP was ridiculous and RVP has yet to be injured and in half a season already paid back the £24mill.

It would seem more imperative that we get defensive cover ASAP, as RIO is at an age were his legs are not lasting. I know Evans is improving, I did really hate him 2yrs ago but I'm a changed man but there is more room to improve, and with Chris Smalling and Phil Jones needing experience and Sharpness I don't think they could produce the level of Evans and Rio, unless they are integrated more often... We were miles ahead last season and coxed it up.. I just hope we have enough experience in the younger players to get through the second half of the season.... Apologies for bangin on, please look at the video and let me know If you agree that the left arm needs work.
Reddy

{Ed007's Note - I'm sure Syd could recommend a way to strengthen his left arm.......

Don't know what save was better the one from colocchini or mata or munian!

Caolán.

LMFAO Bond.

G.A.G.U.S

The save against mata and the one against stoke are ridiculous

James

Loved watchin that video. he's class already. love the guy. i really hope SAF sticks with him. T45

Is it not funny how many times Evra's at fault for the build up or the shot itself?

Not sure i entirely agree abou tht e left hand theory, i think the save from Van Persie's (Of all people) shot was one of the best. Quick reactions, got down well and it was his left hand

Love watching that video. In the video you see he is one of the best in the world at Shot Stopping, One on Ones, Kicking and Reflexes. He just needs to work on few things like Commanding his Area and maybe his Aerial Ability. He is already working on Commanding his Area with Eric Steele. I can really see him being the best keeper in the world in 1 or 2 years. Look at Joe Hart he became World Class at 24/25 De Gea is 22 and remember De Gea is also still Learning English.
Andy H

Forgot to leave name (my comment was about van persie's shot

NTRed

16 Jan 2013 00:56:10
don't be shy bond i'm sure you have many exercises too that m and moneypenny have had you on. I hear snooker is pretty good, repetitive motions and all that. {Ed007's Note - They are top secret methods that involve a tantric state of consciousness.}