30 Apr 2012 23:38:40
As soon as Park and Giggs were put in the same team, we were going to lose. Putting them right next to each other on the pitch is absolutely scandalous and the whole right side of midfield was opened up for City to take an inept Evra to the cleaners. Rooney needs quality service to play up top on his own and Valencia can provide that. yet, he plays an inconsistent and, quite frankly, vastly overrated Nani. For god sake, why is it so hard to understand? How can Fergie make such a glaring mistake? Is he that bad tactically, because that is absolutely pathetic. What is Rooney to do when Giggs and Nani are the two wingers? Nani, who can't deliver a ball into the box, and Giggs who no longer has the pace to get in a position to deliver a cross. Leaving Rooney isolated, forcing him too look for it himself, which subsequently leaves us with no out ball because he has dropped too deep.
It was a defensive mistake that cost us, but in all honesty, City showed just how much better they are than us all over the pitch. If I was Sir Alex right now, I would look at that City team, and I would pinpoint Yaya Toure. We need our own version of him. Pogba appears to be going so we'll need to spend on one. I don't care if it costs us £40m. Get Javi Martinez from Bilbao this summer. No matter what it takes, get him.
Sell Nani, Park, Berbatov, Macheda and Anderson. That gets us £35m straight, and covers Martinez. Eden Hazard to replace Nani for £30m. And a striker.
We need to improve BIG time. No more looking for value, and no more excuses. If changes are not made this summer, City will dominate for years.
G.A.G.U.S
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30 Apr 2012 23:38:36
why does fergie always go defensive against decent teams..
30 Apr 2012 23:34:59
New poster so i'm sure all of this has already been said but I think tonight's squad selection and performance confirms what many of us have been thinking. United have some brilliant young players coming through the side and some excellent players who will give everything for the shirt but we're still lacking that killer instinct and creativity. Scholes still appears to be carrying the team and it is time for United to bite the bullet and spend big. There are questions over Hazard and his attitude but Fergie is the best manager out there and if he really is the real deal we cannot let him join a long list of players who havn't joined as there is no value for money in the market. We have to spend if we are to shrug off City, let alone challenge Barca and the like in the Champions League.
30 Apr 2012 23:28:56
If Scholes hadn't re-joined United, City would have won the league a long time ago. Been our best player for the second half of the season. Just shows how poor our central midfield is.
United Till I Die 1987
30 Apr 2012 23:28:55
oh wait just a minute. Maybe just maybe all I have been saying about the Glazers not investing in the squad and us becoming weaker and weaker may just be coming to fruition. All those people who slaughtered me for what I said should take a good long look at what they have seen tonight and look at what the Glazers have taken out of the club and what they have put in. We now have a policy of clearing out the high earners and bringing in young players on greatly reduced wages. Notice youth team players stalling on contracts. Those of you who don't think they will be seeing Giggs and Scholes in United shirts next year are just kidding themselves. One last thing ask yourself this question. Biggest TV audience and we play Park. Good bit of marketing there then. I AM KLOOT
30 Apr 2012 23:28:14
Fergie talks about Mancini bartering officials=hilarious.Heres a better one-Neville talks about respect and Dignity! Hypocrites-partially why most other clubs despise you.
30 Apr 2012 23:26:15
Manchester united playing not to loose! Says it all really! where was the urgency, where was the passion we used to get from old united sides? I havnt felt it for a while, not the united spirit of the past anyway! Things need to change as far as the team is convened and we will see how much this is recognised in the summer!!
Leebo
30 Apr 2012 23:26:06
You shouldnt have rested Howard Webb,get in.lol lol lol.Mostve country hates you
30 Apr 2012 23:25:23
I just wanna say I'm devastated with the result like the rest of u but if like we all think, sir Alex has not got the money to buy quality, name me another manger in the world that would have won the title last season, let alone got us to where we are this season with the squad and injury's we've had and we could still win it! Believe!!
Redrum
30 Apr 2012 23:25:00
So so gutted tonight but one thing really sticks out for me but what is Jones best position he annoyed me so much tonight
Mac
30 Apr 2012 23:19:38
If one was to draw a silver lining from the looming blue loon, Hopefully it will be the fact -surely- Fergy knows now that he has to spend big in the summer, even if there is no value in the market.
30 Apr 2012 23:18:36
Well,fergie has to take responsibility for the loss,out of today's starting 11,we only had 2 attacking players in nani and rooney.
Playing park was sucidal,how can a exprience coach use a player who has not played for some time now?
Giggs was awful.
Ferdinand wasn't impressive,made mistakes which could have been fatal.
Evra and smalling had a decent game.
Carrick and scholes both played well.
Nani and rooney couldn't have done any better,no service.
Jones was poor.
Clervely and valencia should have started.We played poorly and city deserved to win.
Would love to see park,ferdinand,evra,giggs,berbie and owen leave this season.
Players like izzaguire,clyne,hazard,martinez and a young striker brought in.
We still have a chance,hopefull newcastle win city.
Jude
30 Apr 2012 23:15:11
Maybe some are stupid enough to expect helps from Newcastle but for me, is truly simple: WE NEED TO BUY WORLD CLASS PLAYERS and stop with Morison, Pogba, Fryers stories. Super heroes kids that want mora than they offer. No proven signings no titles, remember, NOTHONG this season! And I' sure that Giggs, Scholes, Parks and stuffs wil be hete next season. F*****k 1000x times that we used Giggs and Park at the same time when the so called young players just sat on bench watching City Playing. We need to buy because this young player issues are bu*****t. We don't have money and people are already dreaming with Moses, Gaitan, Rodwell kind of average players to compeye against Ronaldo, Messi...
HoluUnited
30 Apr 2012 23:15:46
Blessing in disguise?
I think it could well be.
I'm not saying the league is over because i feel Newcastle could still get a result against City.
But if City do win the title, could it enlighten not only SAF but Gill and also the Glazers that we need out with the old in with the new? Could it spur a mass overhaul in the summer? I really hope so. Winning the title would just paper over the cracks AGAIN.
Evra, Giggs, Park, Anderson, Berba, Owen not good enough.
Could also say De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Twins, Welbz and Hernandez are not fully developed yet.
As ever i expect a busy transfer window, but i truly think this could be. We'll need a left-back and centre midfielder atleast, plus most rumours lead to believe we are after an AM - central or wide and possibly a striker with Berba leaving and Owen likely to leave.
Foozeball
30 Apr 2012 23:14:59
Up 2 goals with 7 minutes left vs Everton and SAF stays on the offensive and we got nailed for 2. Today he starts Park and Giggs, has the man lost it. The greatest manager in history but my lord the last month he made a mess of things.
30 Apr 2012 23:10:52
Ok.first of all, city outplayed us and they deserved to win tonight.I don't know how i am gonna sleep today.such a miserable showing from us.
But the fault really rests with the tactics and team selection.
How on earth can anyone choose Nani over Valencia when the latter has clearly been a much regular and better player for us all season.?
What was Phil Jones doing out there?Did not know what to do when he was on the ball nor did he know what to do when he was off it.the guy was just running around like a headless chicken.I don't want to say this but he reminded me of david bellion today......Now that isn't a good thing,is it?
And finally the guilty party....surely the team management needs to question themselves.SAf and Phelan better get it right in the transfer window, because the transfers this summer will go a long way in determining what style of football we play next season and well hope to atleast do better than stringing 3-4 passes together.
RED DEVIL FOR LIFE
30 Apr 2012 23:09:51
Bah it posted prematurely ,Ed you able to add this please?
Utd need a real captain we have come up short this season because we have no on the field leader without Vidic
Pardoe {Ed004's Note - I can't seems the post had already been put up sorry}
30 Apr 2012 23:07:17
My take on Utds position is that whilst Park was really good for us either he has fallen off the pace or the game has passed him by.
Giggs cannot play a full game he still has moments of brilliance but....
Evra tonight played well everyone moaned about his defensive work but at least he was moredisciplined
30 Apr 2012 23:02:05
Gutted
We lost that game before we kicked off, team selection was baffling to say the least. I've been saying most of the season that its time for the legend Giggs to call it a day, Ive said before about Park, what is his purpose in the team, starting with these 2 was always gonna work against us. Ive been supportive of Fergie all the way but he is making to many tactical errors this season, end of the day he makes the final choice who plays and he got it wrong with this game. Changes need to be made and maybe we have to start from the top....
Anyways we have 2 games left that are must win games, hopefully Newcastle can hold city to a draw at least, we can still win the title this year but its now out of our hands in into Citys.
HERBIE
30 Apr 2012 22:50:35
Last post for the night. I hate to say it, but SAF seems to have become a coward. He would have never pulled the s**t he did tonight back in the 90's. He would have picked his best XI, not went on reputations and 'played it safe'. Has anyone else noticed that our experience has been utterly ineffective this season. Just look at Evra, Giggs, Park, etc. They are match losers, we need to be playing our match winners in Welbeck, Nani, Valencia, Fabio, Rafael, Young. Now would be a good time to abuse my powers as an adult and buy a litre of whisky to drown my sorrows.
Percy
30 Apr 2012 22:48:18
How can something so obvious to everybody not be to SAF. When was the last time Park played? Now you're going to play him over Valencia in the biggest game of the year. Park was a wonderful player for us, but that was in the past. If another manager on another team had made that decision we would all be laughing. I'm just stunned at the team selection, it was criminal.
30 Apr 2012 22:47:50
If we could create the chances City created tonight, we would have won that game by 3 or 4. We need creative players badly but more than anything we need players in midfield that can retain possesion and string a few passes together against teams like Chelsea, City, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. We couldn't string more than three passes together tonight, there lies the problem. Well done to City though they deserved to win tonight they out played us, out muscled us and there tactics were bang on.
United Till I Die 1987
30 Apr 2012 22:47:33
SAF needs to take a serious look at himself, stand up to the Glazers and admit that he has f**k-all money to spend, even though we are the greatest and richest club in the world.
We all reckoned Giggs and Park would play and if so , we would loose. Well they did, and we lost. This is turning into a farce.
BTW, the fingers are still crossed that City will screw up and we will still be champions.
J Bones.
30 Apr 2012 22:38:03
Did any of you see the City banner? If you missed it, it said
"The Noisey Neighbours Are Getting Louder"
No pundits, commentator, players, managers etc, etc...could have said it better. I told you at the start of the season Disney, do not write City off (which you kept doing).
KLOOT, don't be so downhearted mate. Because if City do win the PL, the trophy will at least be going back to your beloved Manchester. lol
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
30 Apr 2012 22:36:22
Don't all give up jus yet! Do think a few things learnt thou,fergie by selection admitting da silva isn't good enough&proper right back needed,he talked of Yorke&Cole last week if he had those two then it wouldn't have been 1 up front&showing that we don't have a world class front two they you would put together anywhere. Smalling&jones still young will make mistakes&in time will get that calmness
30 Apr 2012 22:34:53
Not going to mince my words, but my initial reaction is that SAF and Mike Phelan have screwed us over with hopeless selections and tactics. It was the worst selection I could of thought of, when are Park and Giggs going to be moved on or retired? It was depressing to see the initial team selection. Its also clear that Rooney refuses to stay up top even when he's a loan striker. He was behind the ball all the time. I wish we had a Benzema or Higuain. All the problems are starting in the midfield though, we can't hold the ball, we need something more than Scholes and Carrick even though they are good. A physical presence like Martinez is a must to bully the midfield. Hazard would also be great providing that Rooney is disciplined enough to play up top.
Let's see what happens, we have let an 8 point lead go, we have probably lost the League. If it turns out that we do win it then we don't deserve it and I hope it doesn't paper over the cracks.
RedDevil19 {Ed004's Note - I think if anything after tonights performance it is how much we missed Rooney dropping in and dictating the game. No way could he be played as our sole striker next year. Sign Hazard ONLY if he is to play out left, not in Rooney's Best position}
30 Apr 2012 22:33:31
I still don't understand why saf started both giggs and scholes leaving no cms on the bench?! I don't want to seem like I should manage united but personally I would have started young instead of scholes, push for a goal then bringg on the ginger prince to dead the game. Just what I would do
Yellowcar {Ed004's Note - Would have started Young for Giggs not Scholes}
30 Apr 2012 22:31:55
Well come on Newcastle! Im a makeshift Geordie for the rest of the week!
Terrible terrible performance. So many players failed to show up (and not for the first time).
City I will admit played well and did similar to Bilbao in targeting the left side with Tevez, Nasri and Zabaleta all popping up in yards of space there but on the other hand Evra actually was in position most of the time (although we were defending for most of the game).
I cannot remember the last time I was so annoyed during a game. Where was the urgency? What is up with SA's subs? Did the players realise what was at stake? certainly didn't seem it! and jesus christ what was up with that selection? Almost laughable if were still ahead but now we are not and it was a joke.
This is the team we need to beat over the coming years and well lets just say its a low point now but SAF MUST now see where we need changing in tactics and personel. If he cannot then he can go IMO.
Jono
30 Apr 2012 22:31:12
United were never going to win tonight - not with Park and Giggs sharing the midfield. I thought that perhaps, with the right substitutions at half time, the second half could have been salvaged. A draw, maybe. But the damage was done. I posted this a month ago:-
"I read an interesting, if unsurprising, stat yesterday - Ji Sung Park's last 10 starts have seen United lose 8 times. Which means since the 6-1 debacle, United have only lost when Park has started."
We all knew what was going to happen tonight after seeing the line-up.
Why did Park start tonight? Why are Giggs (38) and Scholes (37) required to play in the biggest game of the season? Why is Evra still at the club? The worst part is, I, along with everyone else, will probably be asking these exact same questions at the end of next season.
Matthew...
30 Apr 2012 22:30:21
Firstly the negative team selection and tactics cost us the game. Mostly what wound me up most was Nial Quinn, had to mute the game because of the rubbish he was talking - so pro city.
Unfortunately I can't see city drop any more points but on an upside maybe we will finally buy a few central midfielders who can pass and who arent nearly picking up their pension! Legends as Scholes and Giggs are I believe its time 4 a new generation and get back to our winning games with flair and not playing for a draw!
Andydee MUFC
30 Apr 2012 22:28:09
The starting eleven should've matched what we finished with. And how come no one has mentioned how bad Evra was? Always our of position and not bothered about closing down the opposition.
Nozzla
30 Apr 2012 22:25:57
First of all.. congratulations to Man City. They played much better today and deserved the win.
I don't want to blame SAF for this defeat. I guess any manager would have gone with similar tactics given our team strength and the opposition and the stake of this match. Well you got to lose the title sometime... But still all is not lost and there is still a very slim hope. you never know what can happen.
All I want is Man Utd to finish on a high whether we end up with the title or not.
Things I like today...
1. Carrick looked the only player who was giving everything.... (many would disagree here)
2. Great to see SAF going against Mancini and more great to see the great SAF still shake hands with Mancini
3. Finally the referee did very well today (not much to do really)
Once again I wish Man Utd finish on a high and come back stronger than ever
AJ
30 Apr 2012 22:24:17
This is the first time in history that the team in second place and 3 points behind the leaders have won the title ! FACT
..and dont tell me City havnt won it yet....please !!
As a total neutral on this game (except for the fact that I dont like United), I thought Fergie blew it with his defensive set up and parking the bus. Is this what a great team like United has become.
In one way its sad to witness the end of an era, please keep Fergie for say another two seasons and you never know you could be playing against another team that won the title years ago....Leeds United
Tel 1949
30 Apr 2012 22:22:53
Giggs = LEGEND but please hang those boots up soon
And another thing we all knew (well at least some of us) that park and giggs would start which makes us very predictable
Also I would like a new no. 2 as mike phelan is poop I would like pep guardiola as no.2 as he wants to take time out management let him learn from the master. Don't slate me it's just what I'd want
30 Apr 2012 22:21:02
its a sad day, especially when the lads cant be motivated to win or draw one game to clinch the title.
maybe old father time has crept up on fergy. love the man, thank him for everything he has done but, football has evolved and gone are the days, when you can put 30+ players on, who haven't played for three months, cause their your so called "big game players." how does valencia, welbeck and young feel, are they not game winners. All that hard work in previous games, to be told your dropped.
Its disappointing, but chin up guys, weirder things have happened, its a pity about the everton result though
aaallj5
30 Apr 2012 22:20:11
Am a united fan and we had very few chances tonight...will personally like city to win the league this season..so that those in charge at old trafford will realise that u have to buy world class players to win such games..just compare our squad with citys squad...the power base of manchester has shifted..by next season we will fall further back from matching city
30 Apr 2012 22:19:41
sick to my stomach with fergie saying wel go out to win it and then put out one of the most defensive teams he cud, feel sorry for rooney havin long balls booted at him for the nite and expected to pull sumting outta his a#s with them totally bottled it and newcastle bein whipped by wigan at the weekend dosent give me much confidence of them gettin a result off city, we certinaly pi##ed this title away!!
30 Apr 2012 22:19:02
We lost the PL against Everton because City is more powerfull squad than us, FACT. You may not agree but it won't change. Or we invest or consider ourselves out of business for maybe few years. This bul****t about make stars nah!!
Good night all
HolyUnited
30 Apr 2012 22:18:12
I am quitting my sky sports subscription. Welcome back weekends. I shall mire myself in nostalgia and think fondly of 1999. By the way the ginger prince still rules in my book, shame about the rest of them....and another thing... Sh***tty may be mercenaries but they seem to be mercenaries with team spirit. They are better players in a better team with better tactics and it makes me sick, sick, sick. United need a kick up the backside or we will end up a sad old deluded has been like loserpool.
30 Apr 2012 22:16:47
I just wish giggs would cement his status as a legend and take the decision out of fergie,s hands and retire gracefully NOW
Onecut
30 Apr 2012 22:15:50
How can Valencia not be starting? Valencia and Young should have started instead of Park and Giggs, the formation was correct but the players weren't. Park is useless, but we lost the title at Wigan and Everton at home, 2 goal lead with 7 minutes.
30 Apr 2012 22:13:19
SAF showed the pressure tonight more than at any time in the whole time he has been our manager, highlighted by his clash with Mancini
His fear of losing is one of our main problems , as is tactical and team selection ineptitude, his team selection tonight was riddled with fear. Fear because if the glazers gave him the ability to spend he ignored it. If they Did indeed give him the money. His inexplicable selections and tactics have cost us the title very likely because he maintains an inept no2. I feared this this morning and SAFs team selection was a disgrace , no attempt to win the game, that is fear. Park Giggs and Scholes together is shocking, add Nani who did what I said he would do and we had no chance
Go back to Wigan and SAF resting Scholes that changed it
No shots on target for us tonight but lets be honest city are a better team.
It may be unpalatable to some but this is Liverpool 1990 and SAF has led us to this
I will await the Newcastle will do something comments but they lost at Wigan so expect nothing. City did what we used to do and they have the quality we don't
Finally I will be interested in what those who say our wonderful team is better than a bunch of mercenaries have to say
Liverpool 1990 , mr Gill you better tell Malcolm
Red Man
30 Apr 2012 22:12:54
Well... not really much to say about the performance, i thought our two youngsters Smalling (bar the mistake) and Jones had reasonable games to be honest. We lacked in the final 3rd and were outclassed in most areas of the pitch.
Silver lining? Perhaps we may actually delve into the transfer market... we are screaming for a midfielder general ala Keane such as Martinez and someone with consistent flair and class like Hazard. I'm not saying we will sign these two, but someone of that ilk needs to be signed! Pull the cheque book out and get on it.
=v1=
30 Apr 2012 22:13:35
woeful performance tonight
team selection and tactics let us down
park never did anything
need better team spirit and rebuilding in the summer
hope sir alex gets it right again
UNITEDABHISHEK
30 Apr 2012 22:07:22
Carrick was brilliant today, but we seriously need to replace giggs and scholes, legends yes but SAF keeps using them in big matches nd they keep failing. Yaya Toure was magnificent today, totally dominated us and showed exactly why we need someone in there ASAP. I say break the bank for Martinez and Hazard. Yes, Hazard might hav attitude problems but nth SAF cant manage we need some spark and grit in our midfield.
-BIGRed
30 Apr 2012 22:06:34
Hi Guys
I love Manchester United to death but that was embarrassing and now we have to rely on other teams to help us out.I can't believe we went the whole match without making Joe Hart make a save.You would never have guessed that we were the team going into the game top of the league.I will support Fergie to the bitter end but even I can't understand some of his decisions.Welbeck and Valencia looked far more threatening than any of those who started.We definitely need to strengthen in the summer and big style.I am absoloutley gutted.
Bazza The Red
30 Apr 2012 22:06:14
What a load of crap......
How does Park even come in for consideration when we have Young & Valencia on the bench?
There was a time when all teams were afraid of United now we set out to try stopping the the big teams playing.
Big clearout needed.... Carrick,Park,Giggs,Berbatov
+ Welbeck just not United quality yet( if he ever will be?)
30 Apr 2012 22:03:57
A case of what might have been. Should have we attacked from the start with an attacking line-up? I do not think the formation was the wrong one, but the personnel used in the formation was wrong. Well we have done this to ourselves. We should have made sure of a draw at Wigan and we should have seen out the Everton game. This game wouldn't have mattered then. We haven't lost the title tonight, we lost it over the last few games. All we can do is win the next two games and hope for the best. The 6.1 at OT damaged us immensely in terms of goal difference.
Sydney!
30 Apr 2012 22:03:43
Like I said the other day player's like Park and Evra need to go. Past it, not good enough anymore. That's not an over reaction by the way they should have gone last summer and been replaced. SAF got the team horribly wrong tonight Valencia should have started and so should Welbeck.
United Till I Die 1987
30 Apr 2012 22:03:33
sigh. ngiak/gan glad you replied but forgive me if I dont feel motivated in replying, pick this up next season. cue the football blackout till then. I need the rest.
man united . buy big find talent on ther cheap dont care just sort the fecking mid out.
for whats its worth though those five defenders i am anylysing from a settled team perspective.
one positive though is smalling jones evans have more experience on the hard end of things. no chance for complacency. they gonna have to earn a title. settled team settled team.
laterz
..consatntine..
30 Apr 2012 22:03:28
This isn't knee jerk. If SAF cannot see that Giggs and Park are worse than useless then there needs to be some serious questions asked. We can't just continue blaming it all on Phelan. I'd rather play my grandmother in midfield than Park, it's like he plays with no feet. Giggs, what hasn't been said? He's wasteful, slow, lazy, old, in short, useless.
Rafael should have played at RB, Cleverley in Parks position and Young in Giggs' position. SAF's new he had s**tty selection, it was demonstrated by his bust up on the side line. Luckily it wasn't 3 or 4. I'm more angry about this than the 6-1.
Percy
30 Apr 2012 22:02:25
Ngiak has a point but he's still a little crazy, arn't you meant to be half way through a migration? Waddle off birdy....
HERBIE"""
dear mr herbie
it was easy
way too easy...
hmmm ironically
so was the match for man city
one shot on goal is all the response we had
ha ha ha ngiak fears Roy keane is having a laugh
ironic keane was a commentator?
was he leaving really the beginning of the end?
gan
ps... giggs and carrick! again! a 100% embarrassment for all the big games and they play again
30 Apr 2012 22:02:11
giggs needs to retire how does he play ninety minutes in games never mind starts. Him and park need to go
30 Apr 2012 22:00:56
Let's all be super honest. Did anyone think we'd win when you saw our starting line up?
I didn't. So why did Fergie?
firebear83
30 Apr 2012 22:00:44
We got what we deserved. Well done Fergie & Phelan. Now can we have a side that knows how to attack in the old United style please, and be rid of the second-rate passengers.
JC
30 Apr 2012 21:59:59
we lost due to a moment of stupidity, who the hell was supposed to be marking kompany!!
JK92 {Ed004's Note - Smalling but he will be made the scapegoat... Wait and see when he had a good game other than that corner kick}
30 Apr 2012 21:59:13
Well the team selection, performance and tactics deserved defeat and that's exactly what it got. I've been saying for months about our tempo and pressure we put on the ball and that was our biggest downfall tonight. Gutted but tbh when the team sheets were released it was near enough inevitable.
Rjmanutd
30 Apr 2012 21:58:49
come on newcastle!! if we can get 2 wins and city draw with newcastle then we are champions again!!
30 Apr 2012 21:58:04
This is on SAF, never gave us a chance, that being said they scored on a corner with 1 minute left in the 1h,
30 Apr 2012 21:57:34
Make no mistake this performance is down to Fergie's tactics. He gave city a whole half to settle into the game and dominate possession. We have thrown the title away during the last few weeks, and this was the biggest embarrassment of all. A Manchester United team that the manager sent out to draw, rather then win, the most important game of the season.
Danny Pughnited
30 Apr 2012 21:56:36
Sir Alex now can you see we need some serious investment!
30 Apr 2012 21:55:44
We should have took that trophy with us and put the ribbons on 4 them. We didn't want it tonight, no desire to attack. Don't rememeber one shot on goal from us. Poor poor performace
30 Apr 2012 21:52:19
Whatever happens the starting eleven was a.mile off.
Nozzla
30 Apr 2012 21:49:18
not even a single clear chance compared to the numerous made by city! that just sums up our day :(
Devil for Life
30 Apr 2012 21:49:56
There is only 1 reason we will be trophyless this season, it is fergies stubborness
30 Apr 2012 21:49:39
Jones has been really poor this game.Smalling has struggled also.
Zany Steve
30 Apr 2012 21:39:03
is ngiak dreaming
or are ALL of man city's attacks are outing past our very able left back?
and pouring through our super porous carrick and giggs?
for the past 80 mins continually
ngiak must be blind
gan
30 Apr 2012 21:38:32
How the fu**ing hell is Giggs still on!
That basically puts Giggs in CM!
Whoever is putting their tactical knowhow to SAF needs shooting!
And Nani! PASS!!!!
Jono
30 Apr 2012 21:33:43
come on just a goal... and steal the draw...
I will take that all day at the minute...
whilst it is only 1 we are still in it...
oxred
30 Apr 2012 21:32:43
Never mind park, what is Nani still doing on when as per usual against top class opposition he is too wasteful and ineffective?!, can't believe we havnt brought Valencia on, our best player last couple months, desperate for goal and he's got more chance of scoring from the bench than nani has of having an impact, just too inconsistent
30 Apr 2012 21:20:12
and attacking herbie for saying our five defenders are the best five in the prem. i dare you to name five better. look what theyve achieved this season. totally ungrateful spoiled supporters""""
dear mr constantine,
the past has nothing to do with it dear sir
almost all the starting centrebacks in the premiership are way better than evans
want a list dear sir?
do you really wanna embarass your much vaunted centrebacks?
on current form, not that one particular game months or years ago?
ngiak is really amused by your views... support is one thing, turning a blind eye to the obvious...?
gan
ps... dear sir, ngiak missed you too
30 Apr 2012 21:18:48
Listening on the radio. must of turned it off and on and off. so stressed. and I just gave up smoking. park and giggs why why? even I know thats nuts. Did I give faith in Fergie so blindly? this is nuts. I think even the most positive fan is sick to the teeth. one goal one goal one goal.
..constantine..
30 Apr 2012 21:14:57
With Giggs and Park out there, it's like we are playing with 9 men. The only 2 attacking threats (Rooney and Nani) can't get the ball. And when they do, they have absolutely no help.
B
30 Apr 2012 21:12:17
time to take giggs & park off and play a 3 of nani, vel & young in front of scholes & carrick andsee what we have
oxred
30 Apr 2012 21:11:23
If we lose the league it won't be because of this game. It will be because of the Wigan and Blackburn games. Sh***ty have the better players and the better tactics it's a big ask to to have to get something here. The presence of so many of our players in the Pfa team of the season (1) says it all really. We've done well to get so close with what we've got IMO. For me the worst thing is that I haven't enjoyed the performances this season I've watched out of loyalty rather than joy. Oh well, they say it's only a game.....
30 Apr 2012 21:10:58
Is cleverly injured ??
game is crying out for him
Oxred
30 Apr 2012 21:10:13
soon as i seen the line up 2nite i was worried park shouldnt be playing and giggs is horrible i the centre v yaya and barry. pose no attacking threat and its getting us penned in are own half. if there isnt a change soon it might end up 3-0.
30 Apr 2012 21:06:20
We are simply not good enough. Fergie is just not good enough. Fergie is past. We should have gotten Hodgson before England got him. Smalling should be sold. Again, simply not good enough.
Melbney!
30 Apr 2012 21:04:36
if we do lose then the only hope we have left is newcastle..
JK92
30 Apr 2012 21:03:51
ngiak believes this is the end of many eras
the end of park's
the end of giggs'
the end of evra's'
if these guys stay beyond the next 3 games
it will surely be the end of the man united era for good
the end of carrick's
the end of anderson's, fletcher's, evan's
the end of berbatov's, owen's, ferdinand's maybe scholes'
ngiak fears we may have slipped so so so so far man city
these 1.5 games are painfully obvious
half way losing this game
45 mins from losing the english premiership for a long long time
gan
30 Apr 2012 20:59:58
were getting hammered they are a better team than us and that first half proved it , were trying to contain a team we didnt even do that against barca when we have a couple of new central mids we can compete and go with two men up to in big games toures the key the man a beast power pace and world class gives a presence to the city midfield and allows them to boss it
cjwales82
30 Apr 2012 20:59:23
I know the starting 11 was poor (giigs & park) but i get the impression some people on here want us to lose just to prove a point.
30 Apr 2012 20:58:58
is it me or has fergie lost his bottle?
why play our weaker team against them?
either SAF is going mad or he doesn't have any faith in our best players (toniv, young, welbeck, hernandez)
JK92
30 Apr 2012 20:50:47
Fuming. Fergie puts out a really stupid line up that reeks of fear and banks it all on not conceding a goal. Park is f***ing embarrassment, hasn't played in months, and offers nothing to the team. Giggs to slow to join in the counter attacks. And all the while players like Welbeck, Valencia and Young are sitting on the bench.
Guess what we concede a goal, and now what? Instead of playing our game, we allowed City to come out and dominate. Fergie has made a massive mistake, and one that almost everyone could see coming.
Danny Pughnited
30 Apr 2012 20:49:42
We completely deserved that. We have been awful. Why can't either Ferguson, Phelan or even any of the players not see we need to be pressing them higher up the field. City completely deserve there lead and everything as usual is coming down our left where Giggs and Evra are.
Rjmanutd
30 Apr 2012 20:45:48
It would not bother me one bit if I never saw Park in a United shirt ever again. What has he done apart from fall over? He seems to have no balance. Other than that, performance wise we have been faultless even though we are behindt!
RedDevil19
30 Apr 2012 20:38:53
This is woeful. Has to be changed at half.time.
Nozzla
30 Apr 2012 19:59:44
i can understand valencia not starting because nani usually destroys clichy and valencia doesnt play on the left
park usually plays well in big games
and only reason for giggs is experience im guesing
30 Apr 2012 19:54:41
lost it already...could be a hammering again :( no CM on the bench!
Devil for Life
30 Apr 2012 19:48:58
Lol did say other day expect the fergie classic,praise welbeck/rooney partnership big time&that meant change was coming in welbeck on bench&old heads would start
30 Apr 2012 19:47:53
Here we go!
Tonight is the night that we either win the league or we lose the league. simple as that in my mind.
I'm not going to sit here and criticize our selection or whatever. Giggs is a legend and Park has been great for us over the years.
I'm going to do the old fashioned thing, which we seem to have forgotten about on this site and that's show support. I'll get behind all 11 players we have out!
so, C'MON UNITED!
The Moon.
30 Apr 2012 19:40:16
Well, new prediction lads. 3 or 4-0 City. I'm raging with the selection, I expect us to be absolutely destroyed in midfield and on which ever wing Park starts on. Now as ye all know, I'mnot one for doom and gloom, but SAF is taking the piss.
Percy
30 Apr 2012 19:32:31
Well am I surprised by this line up?
Yeah.
I am surprised at no Toni V, Giggs or Park on the left, Giggs or Park in the middle, in fact Giggs and Park starting and 2 changes to our recently settled back 5.
Knee jerk from SAF?
Maybe.
Whatever the reasons IMO neither Giggs or Park have shown anything in recent weeks to suggest the deserve a start here and more importantly this team is totally set up to try and draw which im not comfortable with.
Nervy 90 ahead lads!
Jono
30 Apr 2012 19:30:01
I posted this morning that my main concern was if Giggs, Park and Scholes all played
They are and frankly we will be lucky to get through this. Truly hope that I am wrong but I can see us conceding several goals early, that line up smacks of a weak no2 and a nervous manager afraid of losing. When SAF gets afraid of losing he goes for experience and I fear being overrun in midfield now. I hope I am wrong
Red Man
30 Apr 2012 19:29:54
Pretty clear SAF is going for draw, that's fine with me but Park and the legend together, not good. How can Valencia not be starting? We have a strong bench but we all know how Fergie sometimes doesn't utilize his subs correctly, City going for all out from the start.
30 Apr 2012 19:24:51
Did anyone watch the PSG vs Lille match, i did as did Martin Ferguson. Any reports going back to SAF must have been glowing as Hazard was incredibly good, furthermore his assit was out of this world. If you haven't seen it look at it on Youtube. I hope that hasn't added a few more pounds to his price tag. Would be nice to see him here next year, i must admit. Even if he does go to Madrid in 3 years, he is a special player and could also be used in a deal to get Ronaldo back.
RedDevil19
30 Apr 2012 19:21:54
why is SAF being so negative?
if we lose this game ill be disappointed (obviously) because we didn't even try to attack them.
atleast if we played an attacking team and lost we would of said we had the balls to go for it.
im just hoping we get some points here because that line up doesn't convince me.
30 Apr 2012 19:14:26
Hi Guys
Well I was nervous b4 I saw the line up now I really don't know what to think.
How can Giggsy be in ahead of Toni who has been on fire recently.I hope Fergie knows what he is doing
Bazza The Red
30 Apr 2012 19:13:20
Bad news lads, Giggs is starting, Valia is on the bench
Yellowcar
30 Apr 2012 19:11:33
I cannot believe giggs and park are playing. Sooooo wrong.
Nozzla
30 Apr 2012 19:11:26
The return of the mighty Park....Heaven help us
30 Apr 2012 19:09:07
UNITED TEAM:
De Gea,
Evra, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling,
Giggs, Park, Carrick, Scholes, nani
Rooney {Ed004's Note - Is that the official team?}
30 Apr 2012 18:52:41
I must admit I am slightly worried as normally when the Glazers are about to try and pull one of their money grabbing stunts they get their official spokesman GAN back on this site to to spread some propaganda on their behalf. It won't be long till you start see him posting some pro Glazer rubbish. I have been really pleased recently as we have put Blair witch in his place by all standing together and telling him what we think of him and his grotty little club. He has tried every method to split us by calling us sheep etc. What he really means is that we all stood together and said to Blair we hate Liverpool and we hate you. Hopefully he will get the message and disappear. I AM KLOOT
30 Apr 2012 18:48:03
COME ON UTD, LETS AV IT.... Don't ya just love that pre big game buzz.... HERBIE
30 Apr 2012 18:26:22
Who do we think is more likely? Hazard or a top central midfielder? For me its Hazard with an average central midfielder like Sigurdson...thoughts?
30 Apr 2012 18:24:04
The press seem to have the view that the title is now City's to lose - what table are they looking at ? Reigning champs in 1st place taking on 2nd placed wannabes - come on Utd - shut the blues up along with their friends in the media
30 Apr 2012 18:22:16
I love football for games like these. I support United for games like these.
And I'm fecking bricking it.
APC
30 Apr 2012 18:20:31
My prediction for tonight's game:
This is based on me taking my dog for its usual walk this afternoon. The walk is in three sections; two along minor country lanes with a 15 minute trek across fields in between. I decided that this grassy section was half time and that any vehicles overtaking me would be City goals and and those that came towards me would be United goals (am I sad, or what?). Anyway, as I entered the grassy section (the start of half time City were leading 1 - 0). Shortly after the "start of the second half" United drew level and then went 2 - 1 and then 3 - 1 ahead. About 200 yards from home City clawed one back (3 - 2). Should I run for the gate, should I linger to see what happened? I kept an even pace and about 50 yeards from my gate another car came ...... but which way??? Yeeeeesssssssss !. A United win by 4 - 2, so that is my prediction for tonight ... take it or leave it (if you take it you must be a barking as I am. LOL!).
Mike B.
30 Apr 2012 17:54:27
Quote about kagawa and why he would be great for united.
'First let’s take a look at his goal record. He’s scored an impressive 21 goals in 58 appearances for Dortmund. He’s scored 9 goals in 28 games for Japan. I’m sure there are plenty of strikers out there who would love to register those figures. But Kagawa is an attacking minded midfielder. He’s pretty similar to Frank Lampard. He can start attacks, pass the ball about and he’s got a real engine on him. His real asset though, is that he can provide important goals.'
Stats like those are great for an attacking mid, he could make getting the title next season alot easiar.
30 Apr 2012 17:50:40
These players check the criteria for our Club.
- Premier league experience
- Full International
- Not over priced
- Good age
- Sell on value
- Improve first team squad
POSITIONS NEEDED:
LWB/LM - Jordi Alba 17m (tick)
LB - Baines 10m (tick)
AM - Kagawa 15m (tick)
AM - Gilfy Gudsomethin 10m (tick)
LW - Gaitan 25m+ players?? (cross)
LW/AM/CF - Hazard 32m (tick) bidding war 35m+ (cross)
CB/DM - Javi Martinez 28m (tick) bidding war 35m+ (cross)
CB/DM - Rodwell 15m (tick)
CM - Cabaye 15m (tick) 18m+ (cross)
CM - Sahin 20m (tick)
If these are the players and the prices we are after I can see some coming off. 3 of these and it's a successful transfer window.
30 Apr 2012 17:35:20
Last season giggs was one of our best players playing in the hole behind the striker. This season he has played in the midfield as a two. He is an attacking player, always has been so cant do the centre mid role of tracking back and controlling the game. If tonight he was in a midfield three and given the job of just linking up the play and attacking i don't think we would have much to worry about.
30 Apr 2012 17:24:45
Keep the faith and believe.
G.A.G.U.S
30 Apr 2012 17:23:51
I don't see why everyone assumes we will try to play 5 across the middle against City. City play two in central midfield, Toure and Barry/De Jong. Considering that one of these is a spoiling role and Toure has been a shadow of himself since he came back from the African Cup, I don't see how plonking another body in the centre will do anything. The only possible reason would be to stick Jones on Silva in a man-marking job. But to be honest we're not going to beat City by sitting back defending, so why even bother?
Giggs should be nowhere near the starting 11, he hasn't been performing well enough and all the experience in the world doesn't change that. Park should be nowhere near the squad, he has been simply awful all year and if he starts it will be a huge error in judgement. City are effectively playing a more mobile version of our formation with Nasri/Aguero/Silva/Tevez as an attacking quartet. So why not take them on properly with Valencia/Ronney/Nani/Welbeck? Both City full backs like to get forward and our wingers are key to us winning. However, if we only play one up front then our wingers will be completely ineffective. We need to have two strong bodies in the box to give our wingers some targets, especially Valencia since Clichy is likely to get caught out of position.
Simply put we need to play our own game and that means sticking to our formation, and sticking with the players who have performed for us. Ideally I would put Smalling at right back to give us a bit more defensive cover, but this game will be won and lost by attacking players.
Danny Pughnited
30 Apr 2012 17:17:48
doe's anyone else believe ngiak/gan = prat,i love reading this site till that plonker pop's up talking crap,i feel he's abit jealous of sydney,i at least find sydney imformative and friendly where as this strange ngiak just wants to put everyone down and waffle in riddles,he obviously thinks sounds intelligent,bless the pair of him,joeyored
30 Apr 2012 17:13:51
I remember one of the EDs mentioning that they have a few ideas for the pages but arent able to implement those because people dont leave a name.
Then why dont you guys make the Name field on the submit form compulsory, it says 'not required' as of now.
Though it still wont solve the problem of false identities but it certainly would stop unnnamed posters.
MUMBAI_BOY(just a harmless suggesstion)
30 Apr 2012 16:29:16
What a squad we'd have if we still had this lot:
Pique, Shawcross, C.Ronaldo, Rossi (i know he's injured) I'd love Forlan to come back and replace G-(Owen) to be injured all season aswell.
Even Diouf's banging goals in the Bunders League now.
Plus i wish gansta luvin' Morrison would of had the attitude & mentallity of Scholes. (now that would of been a player to look out for)
Plus bring back Solksjaer to take over as number 2.
(nothing against Phealen mind you)
30 Apr 2012 15:56:44
Really think we need to go with this lineup (for a few obvious reasons, which i will explain):
De Gea (obvious).
Usual back 4 Rafa,Evans,Rio,Evra.
Midfield 3 of Carrick, Scholes and Clevz/Jones.
Front 3 of Valencia, Rooney and Nani.
Reasoning?
DDG, Evans, Rio, Evra, Carrick, Scholes, Valencia and Rooney will definately all start - it's a no brainer so i won't cover these.
Would prefer to see Smalling at RB today as Rafa hasnt had the best games lately. Smalling hasnt played in a while so i think Rafa is nailed on.
Who to play alongside Carrick and Scholes? Gotta be Cleverley or Jones, both young and energetic, good passers of the ball and Jones is pretty strong too. Giggs (no matter how much experience he has in the big games and over the years he has played) should definately be kept off the pitch. I love the guy for what he has done for and at the club, but he is always giving away the ball or getting muscled off of it.
And last Nani, always has a great game at City, has looked good since coming back from the injury. I just think he offers a little more down the left flank than Young or Welbeck.
Foozeball
30 Apr 2012 15:47:48
Hi Guys
This is what supporting United is all about.A massive game which if we don't lose will go a long way to winning title number 20.I have this feeling that Fergie will go defensive tonight possibly starting with either Park or Jones in a midfield 5 with Wazza up front on his own.In typical United fashion I think it will be nailbiting stuff and I'm praying that we get a positive result.If we pull it off and win the league I believe this will go down as Fergie's best achivement.
So COME ON YOU REDS
Bazza Te Red
30 Apr 2012 15:10:49
Not seen it out there so I thought I would put it out to gather some opinions,
Would anyone like to see Robben signed as it may become a possibility after his supposed bust up with Ribery.
I wouldn't mind seeing him play for us
SAF 23
30 Apr 2012 14:42:26
Ed/ anyone, all the talk today now is that Hodgson is going to be England manager. From what I can't tell there are discussions which I presume means an interview. There is no reason why they won't call in Harry next week or sooner. Or have I missed something. Surely you don't just interview one person for an important job? I actually quite like Hodgson & Redknapp so not too bothered either way, they are both different.
Supasub
30 Apr 2012 14:30:24
team prediction
ddg
rafael, evans, ferdy, evra
park, carrick, scholes
valencia, rooney, welbeck/nani
have a feeling giggs might play though (hurts to say i dont want him to, getting sloppy in his old age)
SteUTD
30 Apr 2012 13:51:44
My predicted line-up.
__________DDG
Small__Evans__Ferdy__Evra
__Scholes_Carrick_Giggsy
Valencia__Welbeck__Rooney
Personally I would prefer to see Jones/Cleverley in there instead of Giggs, but I seriously believe Giggs will play and that will mean balls being given away and getting overrun in midfield. I hope the manager casts his mind back to the Shield when he brought Cleverley on at HT and he bossed the midfield. His energy could be just what we need. Jones would offer great heading ability and he could stick to Yaya like a genital wart and frustrate him. Two great options to play alongside Scholes and Carrick, but I fear it will be Giggs. If it is then I hope Giggs has a very good game and proves us all wrong. I think Rooney will take one for the team and play on the left to solidify the left side of midfield with Giggs & Evra lacking defensive qualities. Smalling isn't as dangerous in attack as Rafael and his link-up play with Valencia will not be as good, but he will strengthen the back four for corners and free-kicks and could be dangerous for us when we have corners or free-kicks. One thing I will predict correct is that we will have a very strong bench tonight. I see Young, Nani, Rafael, Cleverley, Hernandez & Jones all being on it.
Sydney!
30 Apr 2012 13:36:53
Ed002 - Any United related news to report on today? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Not today Syd.}
30 Apr 2012 13:34:33
"Time for the talking to stop and the game to begin, can’t wait. United fans believe"----Rooney
asif da devil
30 Apr 2012 13:18:56
Does anyone else think Bernstien has pulled out a cracker? City have cracked everytime they have been under pressure and the media have been putting huge pressure on both us and City ahead of tonights game but we can handle it. So what does Bernstien do? Well he lets slip that Roy Hodgeson is being spoken to about the england job even though the FA stated that they wouldn't do anything about the England job until the end of the season. This has taken the heat off of City ahead of the biggest game of the season. Very sneaky mr Bernstein.
Shappy
30 Apr 2012 13:01:14
To be honest i think tonight will turn out very well, final score 2-2 United grabbing an equaliser through Valencia in the 87th minute. Can see Tevez scoring against us. City will come out Guns blazing and grab the first goal. So excited. Whats your oredictions ed? Others? {Ed002's Note - Three each but United's second is clearly offside.}
30 Apr 2012 12:01:56
hey eds,
I heard a while back that United had shut down their netherlands / denmark scouting network.. is the situation still the same? cos we are being linked to some youngsters - eriksen, fischer etc.. {Ed002's Note - I really don't know what you mean by "network" in this respect.}
30 Apr 2012 12:20:06
Plobably wrong but for tonight I'd like smalling at Rb, jones in the middle with carrick and Scholes, Rooney up top with welbeck or Nani on the left as they'd be more of a handful for Richards than Young. RB will be important as any one of Rafa, Smalling or Jones could start there.
Later we could go more attacking if need be, but we will fill midfield and counter to begin with including a surge in the first few minutes to catch em cold.
DDG
Smalling Ferdy Evans. Evra
Carrick jones Scholes
Valencia. Rooney. Welbeck/ Nani.
Supasub
30 Apr 2012 12:01:05
Syd..don't get me started! if they rename the bridge I won't be happy either ;D.
As for the game, well I had a dream we won 4-3 last night? although Fletcher got the winner in the 94th Minute...
Really looking forward to it though! I have a really bad gut feeling that Mankini is right and Tevez will get the winner..Hopefully I'm wrong though! I can see Nani being the game changer for us tonight though, 2 goals in 2 games, seems to be back on form.
The Moon.
30 Apr 2012 11:54:29
ok gan massively disappointed with you. your chirping the same old doomsday crap that redman and kloot are going on and totally miss the subtle changes that are going on that
ARE improving the team or the reality that we are not the only club who can bring in players of high magnitude. of the last twenty years who is it of a big name we have that has done well for us? veron? berbatov?
so easy to bitch when they dont work out and totally forget the effort in the first place.
even you were singing the praises of kagawa but is he not good enough?
i prefer to stay away from your cynical worlds and believe the eds who clarify and believe ferguson that we make motions towards higuin and ronaldihno and villa.
even you spoke of the greatness of our coming youth
and attacking herbie for saying our five defenders are the best five in the prem. i dare you to name five better. look what theyve achieved this season. totally ungrateful spoiled supporters.
I will totally love it when this team comes together without the need to spend huge on big names who flirt with everone and with the players that pepole are saying arent good enough.
we drew the everton game because near the end of the season after all the massive amounts of pressure from the fans and an unsettled team things can just fall apart for a while. after crasing out of all comps but one this team has got to be feeling intense pressure and mentally tired and all under the constant stream of fans saying they are not good enough.
keegan style rant over.
welcome back gan
..constantine..
30 Apr 2012 11:24:08
Oh God, Ngt**t is back again. With his sharp insights, mammoth wit, split personality and complete inability to understand how the reply button functions. Once again our pages are clogged up with reams of inane drivel. And to think all this time Liverpool fans were trying so hard to troll the board in vain when all they really had to do is copy this massive pleb.
Danny Pughnited
30 Apr 2012 11:22:22
Can't really concentrate today; just so excited about the match. Thinking about it gives me the butterflies. What I was going to say is how a season really does hinge on this one game. If United draw/win and go on to lift the PL trophy then it could arguably be called SAF's greatest achievement ever. However if we lose then the paper's may well say the weakest United team for years is in for a desperate revamp.
Rudderpost
30 Apr 2012 11:03:56
gan is back, omen of good/bad luck perhaps?
JK92
30 Apr 2012 10:55:12
Tevez staying at City next season, I wonder how long that will last? haha
United Till I Die 1987
30 Apr 2012 10:41:24
....from my boyhood i always dreamt of visiting OLD TRAFFORD one day to watch united play....yes, OLD TRAFFORD....Never ever Mcdonalds Arena :@ :@
asif da devil
30 Apr 2012 10:32:50
Can i just say this and get your thoughts on it. I dont think mourinho will ever manage United simply due to the fact that he always seems to get restless when at one club for 3 seasons or more. United and the fans want stability and longevity, not brief success but sustained success and i honestly dont think mourinho will be able to offer that. If he Did come in i think it would be interesting to say the least, but i really dont see him being Fergie's successor due to this reason. Any thoughts? Ed?
James
30 Apr 2012 10:24:57
Everyone,
Who cares today who we are signing next season, who the next England manager will be or where Liverpool are in the league?
One thing matters today, and that is the match tonight, we shouldn't be thinking about next season. I am nervous, I can't wait so lets get behind the lads.
Remember...
I Was Born To Be United
Daddy Told Me When I Was Just A Baby
When I Was Five, I Went Down The Warwick Road
Now Im Addicted To the Only Place I Go
Take Me Home United Road
To The Place I Belong
To Old Trafford
To See United
Take Me Home United Road
GDS
30 Apr 2012 09:59:29
Derby Day is here boyos, this is the big one!
I can see City scoring about 15 mins in, then us 27 mins and a jammy winner for us at 88th minute....from a penalty :).
Ps. Is it weird that I keep hearing the Lord of the Rings: Two Towers theme song in the back of my head when I think about the match? Dun dun dun........dun dun dun dun.
I'm going mad here!
MPez
30 Apr 2012 09:17:28
in a week where most united posters on this site have taken a fair few few digs i am left wondering why no digs at syd are ever put up?ed? {Ed002's Note - There have not been any at Syd. And he is my favourite.}"""
dear unnamed sir
tghis is indeed a sad state of affairs
ngiak is utterly disappointed
after a short hiatus, this site has deteriorated to everyone AGREEING with mr sydney?!?!?
what next?
man united buying andy carrol?!?!?
gan {Ed001's Note - this isn't the time to tell you about the £20m offer accepted for Carroll then???}
30 Apr 2012 09:12:38
Evans has improved quite a lot from the start of the season, admittingly I was one of those who wanted him sold, I was wrong....
Ferdinand has surprised me this season, I never expected him to last this long, one more season for sure, maybe two....
Vidic's injury is a nasty one, some people struggle to heal from that kind of injury, hope he comes out ok or it could be a bad loss for us....
Smalling I believe will be better than Ferdinand so we have a top player there. With Jones its hard to figure out his best position, we hav'nt really seen to much of him in CD, I would like to see him get a good run of games there in order to make a better judgement....
You're right, 5 is enough, I don't think there's a better 5 CD in the prem....
HERBIE"""
dear mr herbie
ngiak just had to butt in... have a little free time nowadays
evans?!?!?
ngiak must be watching the wrong games... he is terrible
in any championship team, he would struggle
he is not even the top 30 centrebacks in the premiership!
he just has been well covered by the others on the days he makes fewer mistakes...
rio?
well, ngiak strongle believes this has to be his last season
he would be a fantastic coach with his skill, vision and positional awareness, but to play many games a season anymore... very unlikely
only time will tell on vidic, ngiak was never an optimist, but at his age to get back after such a bad injury... well... the jury will certainly be out
jones is fantastic going forward and his terrier like defending is admirable
but he seems to be somewhere between rafael and evra in positioning... rather poor
smalling... he will be the best of the lot... if he is not injured.. again sounds familiar?
gan
ps... our defending has been very poor.. the fact that there was a period where de gea had the MOST number of saves in the premiership and the fact that we have shipped in so many goals so far...
partly contributed by a fairly weak midfield and partly... an ever present evans?
30 Apr 2012 09:01:41
Every time someone mentions a name the Ed says United aren't interested or haven't made an approach. Seems like the Ed is saying w are not signing anybody !"""
dear mr unnamed sir
you have hit the nail on the head
ngiak is proud of you..
we can never compete with anyone these days for a "more famous" player
once more than ourselves are linked to a player
he goes to the "other" team
so therefore if you were to pretend to be "in the know"
it would be the safest option to say things like, we looked at him and are not interested
we never looked at him
and he "rather go to another team"
absolutely no value in the market... :)
gan
ps... if only you could conjure up a name...
30 Apr 2012 08:13:45
Rumours & gossip
People have said Clyne, Gaitan & now Kagawa are so called done deals.
We all know the transfer window isn't open yet.
Would anyone be surprised if we end up buying some
Cameroon LB no ones heard of from the French Div.1
Followed by some Finland youth superstar prospect.
Then finally someone from the Portugese Div.3 AGAIN for a rip off price tag of 7.4m
We always sign some players that make us scratch our head and think.........what?,Who? & how did he get here signing.
We really don't need a big change, though I would like at least one superstar or potential superstar signing.
Modric, DeRossi, Hazard, Javi Martinez would get in the first team. The made up Finland player would probably end up being a Kleberson, Miller, Djemba type and end up at Kidderminster Harriers in the end."""
dear sir
and after all the transfer speculation
we will "resign" giggs, scholes and neville to complete a transfer coup
with no other value in the market
ngiak remembers saying this for at least the last 3 years... where is mr rft?
gan
30 Apr 2012 08:10:29
Ed may i ask,what is the difference in position of these players ...~ Axel Witsel,Luka Modric,Javier Martinez,Kelvin Strootman and Yan M'Villa {Ed002's Note - They are central midfield players who play in a defensive role in the case of Martinez and M'Villa or a more central role in the case of Modric and Strootman. Witsel tends to play the leg-breaking role on the right of midfield.}
30 Apr 2012 07:56:45
it looks like fergie is going to play rooney upfront on his own and play park insteaad of welbeck top crowd out the midfield , il b gutted if thats the case cos park is hopless no skill no passing just runs with his head down {Ed005's Note - I think its more to do with his fantastic work-rate.}
30 Apr 2012 07:22:02
Ed there is loads of speculation about Gotze, hazard, kagawa and now lucas!, how would we even afford one of these players!, what do you think Ed?
Smithy {Ed002's Note - The money will be available but I am not sure that the players on your list will be. Kagawa is a good possibility, a chance of Hazard, Goetze is staying in Germany, Lucas unlikely.}
30 Apr 2012 03:33:05
Herbs ta for reply,
think your right its a nasty injury but I got a feeling being a tough ole ruski will pull him through. Think if not, it can wait till january. but admitedly if we went down three defenders wed be struggling but is it worth shelling out on the likes of subotic on that chance? dont think so. maybe a blanc style signing like nesta would be interesting?
my gut says no though.
Jones did well when cb for blackburn, when he matures he may even be better than vidic and certainly evans but being in that pecking order so we might not find out for a while. wouldnt mind seeing what he can become as a dm though. which is why I dont think we will see a martinez type signing either but im not sure about that. with pogba and carrick buying another of that position would crimally make jones a utility man unless hes going to be rb? thatd be crimanal too in my book.
played well with smalling as a pair in the under 21's though.
..constantine..