Manchester United Banter Archive August 04 2015

04 Aug 2015 23:53:31
He's stereotypical of what's wrong with football. MONEY. Why did he leave Madrid after being MOM in C L FInal!!!! When your up against it where I'm from you stand & fight .

05 Aug 2015 00:02:50
He wanted to stay at madrid but was forced out

05 Aug 2015 03:53:05
Trumours, he wanted more money, Madrid offered less than he wanted, which he is nowhere near the player deserving of said money, and he refused to sign on a lesser deal, so they sold him. He's followed the money, and is the epitomy of all that is wrong with football right now.

05 Aug 2015 09:06:34
But he's not leaving us for the money.

Fact is Manchester on a dark rainy day can be a pretty depressing place compared to Madrid or Paris, and that's even if you're used to it. Add to that a harpie for a wife, fear, a premature baby, LVG for a manager and a league, a tactical system and team mates who aren't superstars good enough to make you shine, and you get failure.

05 Aug 2015 09:43:34
I honestly don't get all the hype with Paris tbh, been a number of times for varying reasons, and never thought much of it.

05 Aug 2015 10:57:30
I agree Brendan. It's too perfect and ultimately dull. Give me London any day. But as with any place it's your experiences there, not the place itself that makes it special. Or in Di Maria's case, the opposite.

05 Aug 2015 10:59:09
shaw,

Lived in Manchester all my life and can't say I have been depressed once, love living here, wouldn't change it for the world, I guess the weather could be a bit of a pain but if I was earning £250k a week I would probably just eat at places that had a roof.

Why are we thinking it is ok to give the physically and mentally weak sh*thouse excuses for his behaviour?

{Ed007's Note - I'm pretty sure ADM knew what the weather was like in Manchester before he signed. As my old gran used to say, 'Good riddance to bad rubbish'.}

05 Aug 2015 12:19:45
Starting to agree with your gran ed007.

{Ed007's Note - I've said it before but ADM, for the finances involved, must be THE worst transfer deal Utd have ever done. I said last summer when he signed that it was a silly move and I take no great pleasure from being right about him.
Too many fans based their support of ADM on the CL MOM award and his price, anyone who had regularly watched him for Madrid knew he wasn't the player people expected.}

05 Aug 2015 14:40:16
Totally agree. What i think is that end of the day if his wife and child don't feel secure in their environment then ultimately its difficult for di maria. i'm not excusing his antics because he did have a poor attitude but i'm sure we all agree 59 mil was way in excess and i say were lucky to get the reported 44.

04 Aug 2015 23:41:32
Angel wasn't for Utd at the end of the day, time for piriere to shine for us. A great prospect for the Red Army.

05 Aug 2015 03:56:29
Swear our wine sponsor is Casillero del Diablo, not Piriere? ;)

05 Aug 2015 12:50:51
Are people using iPhones and there posts are being auto corrected or is everyone just dumb?

04 Aug 2015 23:24:40
A ball hasn't been kicked and the negativity has started already. People even talking about we haven't got a team that could win the CL!!! I think the armchair pundits need to put down their crystal balls and support the team, there's a risk you might actually enjoy it

04 Aug 2015 23:56:26
I can enjoy watching United and still see the short comings of the team and areas of improvement at the same time.

You just need to take the red tinted glasses off.
I would be surprised if we won the CL this year to be honest but fingers crossed.

05 Aug 2015 07:52:39
No red tinted glasses jred just not desperate to want everything now, i'm happy to wait and watch the squad be rebuilt rather than turning into real chelsea or city who plough through players and managers until they get what they want

05 Aug 2015 09:48:59
WAAD,

You are going to love it on here after a defeat mate, the meltdown is something to behold. You will hear things like 'LVG is useless', 'this team will never win anything', even inexplicable things like 'I agree with beast' and not even from JMB.

I tend to be more like you and enjoy the season and see how it turns out, I think the team this year is a massive improvement on last, the midfielder has so many options and we have 2 full backs who could be up there with the best in the league. As many people think, we are a centre half away from being challengers and another top striker away from having a pretty complete squad, which is a lot closer than we were last season, there is also time left in the window for us to make a couple more signings.

I can't wait until Saturday, walking up Sir Matt Busby way on the first game of the season is one of my highlights of the year.

05 Aug 2015 10:15:46
we have spent 300mil in 12 month , just sold our record signing after 12 month, so its maybe a bit late for that .

i take it you are happy not to sign anymore players this year and wait till next season

05 Aug 2015 10:54:15
gds waad
i have forgot the rules again can you tell me again what u should and should not talk about .

also at what point does discussing what the team needs to move forward become negative .

should we all just put the red tinted glasses on and say we are the best no matter what ?

05 Aug 2015 12:12:16
jred,

Explain where either of us said any of them nonsense things you just posted?

Talk about whatever you want, you must notice the overreaction to a defeat on here yourself surely, you aren't an idiot.

05 Aug 2015 12:46:46
gds
where is the negativity?
a few have said we are prob looking at 4th .
i think that's fair ,chelsea and arsenal are both better teams and prob city to.
and as waad says , some people even think we won't win the CL .
with 3!!!. talk about being negative.
i will be honest i think 1 of munich , real and barcelona will win it .

i still feel we are a bit of winning the title or the Cl . but as waad says i'm maybe a negative armchair fan or I've maybe just taken the redtinted glasses of

05 Aug 2015 15:24:17
Jred think u missed the boat on my CL point, what i meant was people are saying there's no way we will win the CL like its something we was a shoe in for it in the past and even more so that they expect us to be at that level from 1 transfer window. Last season we had a shocking start with all the injuries and a new style of play to get used to, we have strengthened areas of the squad whereas out of the teams above i can only say the same about arsenal. The facts are our defensive record last year was good and if that was down to ddg then great because he's still here! There is no guarantee that any CB that comes in will be a success and the same goes for a striker. i'm not a rooney fan but I am confident that with depay and pedro behind him we will have a much faster and sharper attack than we did last season. So I am confident because I focus on the positives and the facts but maybe I should take these glasses off and see the world ending

04 Aug 2015 22:01:55
Bale commits to Madrid again, he's not signing, we need a CB.

04 Aug 2015 21:34:53
Betting suspended on Pedro, is the deal imminent? If so then it's a good bit of business, replace Di Maria who didn't exactly need replacing like for like as he barely played and we're signing an actual winger, with pace for the right.

04 Aug 2015 21:59:10
I think it's a great bit of business. I'm gutted DiMaria didn't silence his critics, but he was abysmal in the last few appearances and maybe felt he want to dig himself a deeper hole.
I'm very surprised we didn't go all out for a Reus or such tho?. (Spoilt I know).
On to the striker and defender/s now then.

I have to say, I'm very surprised we haven't been linked to Heung-min son of Bayer. The guy is a total unit, seems very Lewandowski-esque. lol
I see a few people demanding Stones too. I feel he is overpriced tbh. I'm a little gutted Otamendi hasn't been landed. Varane or Laporte would be good additions but we need a leader there, I guess that's why we really tried for Ramos. Only some offence meant towards Smalling, he isn't good enough for me. Yet
😕😕😃

04 Aug 2015 22:28:34
By all accounts Pedro seems really determined to move and succeed at United. He works really hard and every team needs such a worker in their forward line.

05 Aug 2015 08:45:46
and suits LVGs philosophy as well Pedro, quick and hardworking.

05 Aug 2015 12:35:41
Varane I think is a stylish talented player but there's been comments regarding his knees holding up over a full season. If he has a hint of a knee problem playing in la liga can't help but think it would be a big problem dealing with the rigours of the EPL at his age as well

05 Aug 2015 18:13:36
Son looks like a great prospect, could be the Korean Cristiano if he bulked up a bit

04 Aug 2015 19:31:07
4 days til the season starts should be looking forward to it more than I am but still feel our transfer dealings have been some what average . Ok we've signed some very good players but as majority on here know no Cb no striker and as stands no replacement for di Maria . Lvg has had a whole year to look at this squad and see where it needs improving he can't think Jones evans and others are man utd class . he's had a whole season to scout for new recruitments and yet we're going into the season with one striker and no center back of any real quality . I think it's very poor on his behalf . Ok he may of wanted Ramos didn't get him but surely must have other alternatives. Uncertainty with de gea this season we should of had settled squad transfers done early like Depay was . What I'm hoping doesn't happen is we win our first three games comfortably and Lvg thinks our squad is good enough to challenge and nobody else is signed . Long season ahead with lots of games and we haven't really got one Natural Goalscorer .Again looking forward to season but not as much as should be . Sorry negative attitude but surely others must be feeling similar .

04 Aug 2015 19:46:55
Nope, not really. We have made some great signings and I imagine we have not finished yet. It's not as simple as slapping down the money and getting who you want. Clubs don't want to sell, believe it or not, not every player wants to play for us.
I agree on the CB issue, our jumping around form 1 to another isn't great but I expect we will sign one before the window shuts. It's going to be a roller coaster, enjoy it

04 Aug 2015 19:56:04
Not really I feel like a kid at xmas. Defence wasnt a major issue last season however it does need strengthening, it was the rb position where a lot of mistakes were made. All credit to tony v for puttin a shift in, but we now have an international rb at our disposal. i'm confident we will land Pedro and he will add another attacking option along with Memphis. With Mata Pedro and Memphis they can all interchange behind Rooney and cause a lot of problems. Our Midfield is now the strongest its been for years and that benefits the defence even further. Shaw is like a new signing and we have a couple of very exciting youngsters ready to go! Roll on Saturday because I for one can't wait!!!

04 Aug 2015 20:04:47
I don't disagree with signings we've made but surely we should of been in a more settled postion than we are now within the squad . I hope I'm wrong I really do but I don't think that's a Prem league winning team and miles away from being a Cl winning team . Can you see us finishing above chelsea arsenal and city . IMO no we may cut the gap from last year . Lewandoski agent said he may be available if offer came in for £35-40 mil . Why hesitate stump the money up. If that's a no go zone then try other avenues but don't tell me we have exhausted all possible options . Rooney is a great player but not a natural finisher nor is Depay or januzzi etc . Most of our business should of been completed by now instead issues with spine of our team virtually goalkeeper, cb and missing striker . Not the best way to start a season .

04 Aug 2015 20:09:48
I'm not confident without a CB or striker either. We've addressed midfield but anyone who's saying defence isn't such an issue because we didn't concede that much last year are in dream land. De gea was incredible and without him wouldn't of got near 4th spot. I feel our main issue will be braking teams down as scoring again like last year, and not convinced we will score a lot with what we have. Rooney isn't enough for me.

04 Aug 2015 20:17:23
Torqs

I actually agree with you to a point. It is disappointing we still need to resolve the key positions in the team only days before the season plus we also have a critical qualifier very shortly too. I too have campaigned for Lewandowski and if we buy Pedro then we are still short on threat up front, so if Pedro arrives I hope for the Pole as well.
I think signings will come in because as things stand we are still nowhere near a challenger for the title, that would take several major signings and an amazing feat from LvG to stick it all together. There is still time so let's keep calm , however lose several games and that will not help us at all in trying to attract players.

04 Aug 2015 20:42:39
Dont want us to lose any games Red Man but I also don't want it to be considered that if we win our games that we have capable squad of competing for silverware. We need strengthing still and I hope it's all happening behind closed doors .

04 Aug 2015 20:48:43
kloop will sort it out next summer

{Ed025's Note - klopp would be far better jred.. :)

04 Aug 2015 20:56:52
Klopp was my first choice last summer and I remain hopeful on him being our manager at some point. There are good alternatives as well but for now LvG is doing the right things however needs to cement the correct playing style

04 Aug 2015 20:59:38
ha , yer him to

04 Aug 2015 20:59:58
I think we've made great signings so far. My only worry is how we're going to be set up.

04 Aug 2015 21:14:24
redman
i honestly don't think lvg will be the manager next season .
at the moment i think 4th place looks our best bet ,
and with the money lvg has spent that won't be enough.
we still don't know our best 11 infact not even our best back 4 , midfield or forward line .
im not even sure we have a settled formation .

im far from convinced we are going to spend big on a striker and if depay doesn't hit the ground running our forward line looks a bit thin.

not keen on a cm with carrick and schwieny , which is to slow and which i think lvg may play.
and blind a cb must be a joke

04 Aug 2015 21:19:27
Stevie

We have made good signings but we now need great ones if we really have ambition

04 Aug 2015 21:32:30
Ha ha Jred , that made me laugh. Considering changing my user name to 'I am Kloop' now!

04 Aug 2015 21:38:49
99
i would agree i think we have bought quite well

04 Aug 2015 21:46:05
I think we're toothless in attack. Really do. We were so easy to defend against last season. Couldn't break teams down. Was all so static and no movement. We really need a top cf

04 Aug 2015 21:47:09
Jred

Actually I don't disagree with most of what you say there. I would add that Pedro is a good player but will not propel us into the top three on his own as some seem to think. I also agree on Depay, too much pressure on him to deliver. I also agree that Carrick and BS is not the right combination, Schneiderlein must play with one of them plus Herrera giving licence to three to attack. Blind should not be at CB for our first game.
We may be aiming high but if they don't succeed in bringing those top players in we could be punished for starting the season like that. LvG may start to feel the pressure then. He has done the right things so far but now Woodward needs to step up

04 Aug 2015 21:54:47
Bought quite well . If barca cheksea City madrid were to sign the players we have just signed we'd all be laughing at them . Yes they are an improvement from last years players we had . Vidal went to bayern for just over 20 mil who would you prefer vidal or schweinstger because I know i'd prefer vidal . Could of went in for Cech instead of letting De Gea saga drag on. Suddenly if then two players alone signed they i'd be feeling more confident of Cech behind the back four with a Vidal bossing the midfield with Scherderlin . I find it hard to believe all the top targets we have gone for don't want to join us . And the quality we could and should be getting should be better than what we've brought in so far .

04 Aug 2015 22:10:34
redman
i think herrera will be pushed out.
dapay will play the 10 role and carrick and 2 sch will fight for the 2 in cm.
not sure you can blame woodward we have spent the best part of 300mill in 12 month.
lvg seems to of gone with rooney as a striker if that's the case he won't want another big name , i still think we will buy a back up striker.
for me lvg is going to play rooney as the main striker with dapay as the 10.
or else pre season was a waste of time , i'm also far from convinced with mata out wide.

we have a good squad but we had a good squad last summer .
the 3 at the back was awful last year let's hope lvg doesn't get it all wrong again this year

04 Aug 2015 22:43:02
Stevie, I agree I hope it will be a variation of 433, my preference would be bs behind ah and Ms with Mata right depay left rooney cf. But he has been playing 4231 with depay as a' no ten' . The 2 issues I have with this is I would switch Mata with depay and secondly it only allows 2 of 4 very good midfielders a starting place. BS is one of the best match tempo setters in the world and lvg recognises this, once he understands the epl he will start to dictate matches from that deep lying role much like scholes did or pirlo did albeit in a different way, for the first time on years we have a genuine WC midfielder and he will start IMO if we surround him with the pace power, technique, and energy of ah, Ms, mf,and rotate him with Carrick is the best use of our squad IMO.

04 Aug 2015 19:17:15
Not trying to come back or something but this needs some mentioning.

People hating on Pepe for what not. He is certainly controversial but which United legend has not been controversial? People talk about his cards. He has had 2 reds in the last 3-4 seasons. This includes the one against Germany. Most are second yellow offences. People exaggerate this image about Pepe. He takes no pi$$ and that is a quality. He is a certain starter for one of the world's best teams and no one wants him. I really don't get the point in having all goody goody image players all the time. We need some nut jobs in a team. We need some who will frustrate others. Fellaini does half of his football elbowing his way out and no one baits an eye. But no one wants Pepe. This is really amazing. At age 32, with that experience and aura around him, I would love him at United to hold the fort for a few years. It won't happen that's another matter. But not wanting to sign him sounds atrocious to me. My opinion though. Cheers!

04 Aug 2015 19:47:49
He's odious and sums up everything that s wrong with the professional game. He should go to Chelsea where he would fit right in.

04 Aug 2015 21:43:44
Not agreeing or disagreeing but merely pointing out that a second yellow would still result in us playing with 10 men for the remainder of the game.

04 Aug 2015 18:15:32
Wouldn't it be funny if Di Maria failed his medical and PSG pull out of the deal :D It wouldn't be funny for our transfer balance though ;)

04 Aug 2015 18:48:54
Let it go, he hasn't done anything wrong.

04 Aug 2015 19:45:26
Well, he hasn't done anything right either. I was his best defender, before what he's done this summer !

04 Aug 2015 21:16:06
Hasn't done anything wrong?

04 Aug 2015 23:32:17
Just because lvg said he didn't turn up its a load of rubbish so he didn't confirm we sold him.
If utd didn't know where he was why didn't they fine him?
Case closed.

04 Aug 2015 17:55:44
If we sign pepe, than i will wait for our fixture with chelsea (pepe vs costa)

04 Aug 2015 18:16:13
If we sign Pepe I'll become a City fan :)

04 Aug 2015 18:31:27
Pepe is awful. Makes to many mistakes with bad tackles. We have Jones for that. He's a red card waiting to happen.

04 Aug 2015 18:43:35
He is a red card waiting to NOT happen someday :D

04 Aug 2015 19:17:50
Everyone knows what happened in the World Cup, he got pressed and shaken then he head butted someone. Imagine him playing against Stoke or West Ham? He's too hot headed.

04 Aug 2015 20:19:15
I hope we sign him purely to get rid of any fickle fans, no names mentioned eh.

05 Aug 2015 05:47:46
Some just can't take a joke, eh ?

04 Aug 2015 16:31:33
not sure if he is left footed but how abouts for a ball playing CB Barta from Barcelona. Has a release Clause of 10mil € so wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

I know he has expressed his desire to stay but surely if we where to say you can come be 1st choice partnership alongside smalling in a team that already boasts people of native tounge and similar age in Herrera De Gea and Mata plus if rumours are anything to go by fellow team mate Pedro.

Surely can't be a bad shout

04 Aug 2015 17:08:13
What makes you think he could play for us? How many times has he played for Baca 1st team? ow many times have you seen him play against top class opposition?

04 Aug 2015 17:31:47
Crikey, how about Madrid's or Bayern's reserve CBs? The desperation us getting a bit silly now. I accept we need a top class CB but people talk as if we leaked goals last year when we didn't. Our issue last year was not scoring enough goals when we were dominating. This constant bashing of our CBs is getting out of hand

04 Aug 2015 17:43:49
Great point AJH I would think the attacking players the club are looking at will be a priority I actually think if the Ramos deal doesn't happen we will not sign a cb .

04 Aug 2015 18:43:53
DDG was a large part of our Goals Against column last year. Will he still be here? If so, will he be as good as last season?

For me, our centre backs wouldn't get a look in if we still had Rio and Vida in their prime and that should be the standard.

04 Aug 2015 15:43:46
A lot of people saying they would be happy signing Ramos and Ibra, but IMO with already spending on 32 year old Bastian, i'd rather U.S. target younger players who can be a part of the team for many years rather than 2 years. For example if we were targeting Ramos, I'd much rather we took Raphael Verane off them. Instead of Ibra i'd rather get say Lacazette. If we're spending big money we should try and but younger players we can have the best years out of.

Like Ronaldo situation, he is one of my favourite ever players for us. But if we were going to put a £100m package together, then it has to be for Bale rather than Ronny. 5/6 years younger for a players who would grace old Trafford for many years to come. Same with the keeper situation. Target early 20's rather than early 30's

04 Aug 2015 16:14:40
Schweinsteiger is only 31, as of three days ago. I understand where you are coming from in terms of buying youth, but don't forget LVG has only 2 years left on his contract and he is adamant he will retire after it. so perhaps he doesn't give a sh#t about what happens after he's gone. Perhaps he wants to sign off with some silverware in his last 2 seasons, and buying what he percieves to be proven players gives him the best chance of that.

04 Aug 2015 16:58:42
Typo that was. Fat finger problems. Lvg needs to think about the club. He has to manage in an unselfish way. We need to build for consistent sucess rather than just buy a team of stars for now. Just my opinion. Can still be ready made quality players, just target the younger ones is all I'm saying. Obviously you need a nice balance of both but we have that with Rooney, Carrick, Bastian , young, etc

04 Aug 2015 16:59:20
Stand-United, I completely agree, when the class of 92 started coming through it was superb, they had no fear and nothing to lose! And another thing, there hearts were in it, if they didn't give 100% they knew their chance had gone! We all want success, but I'd be prepared to wait if I knew given the chance, the younger players would all click!

04 Aug 2015 17:00:12
I'd have been happy to offer De Gea plus £10m for Verane, and then gone all for Petr Cech though as keepers last longer

04 Aug 2015 17:15:09
Varane is not for sale

04 Aug 2015 17:19:00
Ronnie,

They were very young as well mate, don't forget that.

04 Aug 2015 17:44:23
We do need experience in the team though, you can't win anything with kids.

04 Aug 2015 18:23:39
They would sell Verane at the right price IMO. More likely that Ramos. I'd rather buy young quality *see Depay, and sacrifice another couple years not winning the title , for a chance of further prolonged success.

04 Aug 2015 15:27:02
Kane rumours have popped up again, perfect play for us

04 Aug 2015 15:39:08
Needs far more than 1 good season to justify paying £50m for him.

04 Aug 2015 16:22:11
But stand-united, you just said we need young players? Kane is one of the best U21 strikers in the world

04 Aug 2015 16:34:39
Kane is my number one choice. He is young, English and I reckon he will become one of the best PL strikes in a couple of years. If Rooney was worth £25m (I think) at 16, then in todays market Kanes got to be worth 40-50m surely.

04 Aug 2015 16:34:47
Based on one season Harry? I'd rather wait and see what he does this season to be honest, he is good but not sure if I'd call him one of the best u21 strikers in the world, unless you are writing for an English newspaper :)

04 Aug 2015 17:01:30
He's too expensive. If he was Belgian he would cost £25m max. I'm not convinced about him until I've seen more off him. Plenty of people have wonder seasons.

04 aug 2015 14:29:32
now lingard is on his bike 2.5mill to bristol city.da da da "another one bites the dust"🎸🎸

04 Aug 2015 15:01:48
Really? If he has, total disgrace!

04 Aug 2015 14:57:18
Great price if we get it, should suit all parties, Jessie was a late developer but will never be a regular at OT I would have thought he could get a bigger club but not a rush of clubs waving chequers at us despite some posters having a very inflated opinion of his capabilities, a bit like Rafael, all our experts on here think he was so good but yet nobody apart from lyon wanted to buy him

04 Aug 2015 15:19:12
Can you elaborate why it would be a disgrace Ronnie?

04 Aug 2015 15:25:42
What's so disgraceful about it? I admire how we do business when it comes to selling players, van p himself spoke about the class we showed when offloading him, when players are told they are surplus to requirements the quiker they are off the books the better, players are given the power to negotiate better wages as a result of lower fees, this ensures all parties are happy and puts us in favourable positions with clubs in the future, on the other hand Madrid want a player we want to keep so we're playing hard ball. Good luck to lingard, anderson, fletch, raf and vanp. Would you want these in place of depay, sneiderlin, the pig farmer darmian??

04 Aug 2015 15:37:46
Definitely not happy, we are losing our traditional way of playing English youngsters

04 Aug 2015 16:17:05
Unfortunately the game has moved on and to compete at the top you need to buy the best.
Also we don't seem to have had much luck with the youth stepping up recently so what do we do? Play players we know are not good enough (Cleverley etc) or cut our loses and start again.
We actually have (on paper) a fantastic looking under 21 first 11 but it don't mean they are all going to make the grade.

04 Aug 2015 16:36:45
Unfortunately English players just ain't as good as they have been in the past Pep. A lot are over hyped and over paid.

A shame that Jesse might leave but I never thought he was good enough.

04 Aug 2015 16:43:29
Pep who would you play him instead of?

04 Aug 2015 16:55:41
If Januzaj and Perrera are deemed better prospects by the management ( as they are by me) then it makes no sense to play Lingard just because he's English. I do like him but it will be hard enough to find games for the other 2 already so its best he leaves Imo. Good luck to him.

04 Aug 2015 17:43:39
I actually agree with Pep, he is a good player, and he should have at least been given another season to challenge for the RW spot, he is quick got a good shot and cross, and plays with enthusiasm. We are losing our club identity. I know I will probably get a lot of "disagrees" for this, and I said it after we signed Schweinsteiger, but we are fast becoming a second rate Real Madrid.

04 Aug 2015 13:11:24
I think there is 1 very crucial date : 26th Aug, the date when we will know for sure whether we are in the CL or not.

This could be a deciding factor especially for the BIG names we intend to bring.

What do you guys think?

04 Aug 2015 13:18:27
I think most players are motivated by money now, not Champions League.

04 Aug 2015 13:28:08
I can not see the club leaving it until the 26th, unless there is a big signing on the cards meaning someone becomes available towards the end of the window.

Although players want to play in the champions league, I don't believe it to be a decisive factor in whether or not a player wants to play Manchester United. A) We have plenty of money to offer top players and are still a massive draw and B) We are not Liverpool

04 Aug 2015 13:31:42
Also, if the top players join now then we'll get through any qualifier. If they don't then we could well get knocked out. So chicken egg situation.

04 Aug 2015 14:15:34
Schmid,

On paper we are better than every team we can meet in the quaifiers with the team we have now, fingers crossed it works out like that.

04 Aug 2015 12:49:13
'Jred I got so much stick for not raving about swienstieger, he wasn't a great signing and that will show this year. He was a good signing but not a great signing!Il eat my words about darmain because he actually seems to be the only great signing we've made'

Oh, then he said this, Schneiderlin and Depay?

I get the Schweinstiger injury prone, on the pitch is quite lethargic thing, but even so, his presence in the dressing room is probably worth 12m alone.

04 Aug 2015 13:31:02
Schweinsteiger hopefully will be fine. It's about finding the right balance between both him and Carrick and being available for the big games where he has the ability to control them.

I hope to god we did not pay 12m for his presence in the dressing room

04 Aug 2015 17:50:03
I think it's nice of him to leave presents in the dressing room.

04 Aug 2015 12:43:10
Good afternoon all, just a few quick points on my mind this morning.
1) what is with all the Bastian doubts among our supporters? BS is one of the most successful and decorated players in todays game. A true footballing legend and 1 of the top3 in his position in the world a confirmed lvg favourite and if anybody saw the WC final they would have witnessed a performance as on a par with that of Roy Keane in turin in 1999 he carried the german team that night and will shine for us this year and will be a certain starter when fit. He is one of very few world class players in our squad. He would be a certain starter for any epl club bar none right now.
2) big v change your name to big girls blouse. either post a rumour with some detail or don't be surprised when people are sceptical your track record of accuracy is not great, I accept you might not be able to give full detail but please don't post riddles. And no need to be so sensitive
3)ddg sell him like ADM and good riddance. Once anyplace is not fully committed he should leave I had to watch vidic captain our club after he signed a contract with inter he should have been thrown into the reserves the day after he signed foreigner and never been allowed play for us again.you are either red or your dead as far aim concerned and the thought of ddg signing for RM in Jan and playing out the season with us makes me feel sick and if i was his team mate i'd burst him. Rant over

04 Aug 2015 13:56:43
Well said Ken.

The concern with BS is whether he is fully fit or not. Time will tell.

04 Aug 2015 15:51:16
Agree with everything apart from the sell de gea part.

At the moment it seems real are not meeting our valuation 25/30mil and are also no interested in our attempts to obtain one of their players in exchange or not.

So their are two possible scenarios:

1.) we sell de gea for less than our evaluation thus making a mockery of our supposed 'hard line stance' and have to inevitably bring in a lesser standard gk which will unsettle our defence further let alone mean we will have signed 8 players in one window.

2.) we keep de gea who will probably sulk until sept 1st then realise he can either play for us or sit on the bench for a year and miss out on a euro 2016 starting spot and we can have a season with a world class gk who can monumentally help us in our title challenge.

I know which one i would pick and its not 1
Your comparison to di maria is understandable but one was our player of the year, the other was kept out by ashley young no matter how talented he was

04 Aug 2015 16:33:55
Hi dsg, it is not that tough a call, if he is not going to sign then get rid. If he signs a pre contract with Madrid in Jan he has no place in our dressing room and certainly does not deserve to wear the jersey, we could be playing against them. As a player if one of my ream mates was committed to the opposition I would not trust him nor would I want to share a dressing room with him. I won't support any player that has committed himself to another club. Take what we can I trust ed Woodward to get the best he can for him, but keeping him means e have a player that will be committed to another club and very publicly. Just to repeat myself you are either a red or your dead IMO

04 Aug 2015 18:59:56
Okay so if we were to sell and did get a good price who would you replace him with?

Lloris would be my choice but with levy it doesn't seem like its happening and anyone else would pretty much be a step or two down from de gea which is not ideal considering how poor we are at the back

04 Aug 2015 21:29:54
Cillessen from Ajax or Loris are the best options I would go for cillessen he would be no1 for 10years and is a top keeper, ddg is in top 3 in the world we can't sign anybody better but if he does not want to be here then we have to sell him he won't have the trust of the manager the players many of the supporters and financially its the best thing to do, we will still have the same dilemma next year to replace him but we will be 20m worse off trying to do so. With the midfield changes and the rb change alone we would hope not to be as reliant on our keeper next season and of course we are all still hoping for a top cb to join, if he is not committed then sell and don't look back IMO

{Ed025's Note - im with you ken..

04 Aug 2015 12:03:12
Eventually people will See Certain ambassadors for how corrupt they are and what they are doing behind the scenes to ruin the club !!

There are many Theory's and not much Proof but i'm sure a investigation that leads to a documentary will soon reveal all!!

04 Aug 2015 12:18:21
I think you need to start speaking in a way that others may understand. instead of dangling carrots. Its why you get such a negative reaction.

04 Aug 2015 12:28:49
You're hilarious. So cryptic.

04 Aug 2015 12:36:27
There's an episode of Curb your Enthusiasm called the ski lift that reveals the big v's true identity.

04 Aug 2015 12:58:13
We need Robert Langdon here. :-[

04 Aug 2015 13:02:41
Attention seeking at its highest quality, generally the type of behaviour that comes before a ban.

04 Aug 2015 13:32:07
Are you still posting Big V? Did Mpez not scare you away?

04 Aug 2015 14:55:01
He's a poor man's Ngiak.

04 Aug 2015 14:57:49
He IS a poor man's Ngiak!

04 Aug 2015 11:16:16
Check a persons history before branding them a child tot, I have posted on here for a few years !!

Also I don't post tripe, have been led along a dark lieing path now and again but mostly positive comments from me, I can see why Ed002 left because some of you are up there in the clouds son!

And for your information anyone who thinks we have silly spending money! We don't, Plan was always to lower wages and try and recoup some off what we are spending, when do maria is sold and possibly de gea going with Pedro coming in we will be Even or there about !!

04 Aug 2015 11:41:07
Checked your history Big V. Nothing really stands out back up your claims that you have info.

You claimed we would only make 3 signings. Already made 5 with more to come, hmmmmmm

04 Aug 2015 11:45:23
I think the issue people currently have with you is that you are teasing as if you have inside knowledge without actually giving any information. This puts you into one of three categories -

1. You have inside knowledge but aren't allowed to share it.
2. You have inside knowledge but just don't want to share it'
3. You are lying for attention.

Now option 1 would be understandable but then why would you even hint at anything, it's just pointless.

Option 2 would be weird as I can't think of a logical reason you wouldn't share it, maybe fear of being incorrect or things changing.

Given option 1 and 2 don't really make sense that just leaves us with option 3. Now I'm not calling you a liar just pointing out why everyone thinks you are being silly.

04 Aug 2015 11:46:51
That was an opinion not a claim !! Get some brains !!

04 Aug 2015 11:59:19
Maybe you have got 1 in 3 right there redrosie, The point is everyone is so crazy about us buying players , they need to look at the bigger picture first !

But i Stand by what i said ! Screen shot it you will see the whole south american thing is a myth :)

04 Aug 2015 12:02:01
I quite like Big Vs posts. Maybe something behind them, maybe all a windup but at tge same time they make me sit up and think "hello, what's this all about" after all isn't this a rumour site not an information site?

04 Aug 2015 12:04:10
Big v,

You are making yourself look very stupid and troll like with these posts mate, I imagine you wanted this reaction so you could behave like this and clog up the page and that's whag you got, so we'll done.

04 Aug 2015 12:08:59
Somebody's head is in the clouds

04 Aug 2015 12:13:31
Oh behave Big V you tw@

04 Aug 2015 12:15:04
I don't normally get involved with reply s if you check most of my post history, i normally just sit back and let it all unwind but you guys recently wound me up so i have commented back !!

i see a lot of you come on here to throw silly comments and people and try to get them to leave ! ( Ed002) for example

04 Aug 2015 13:05:32
BIG V,

You have mentioned ED002 a couple of times now, his situation and yours are totally different, Ed002 is extremely respected on this site for one and offered us a lot of information, you are neither of them things, I get you keep bringing up Ed002 to get the Ed's on side but it feels like you are crying to teacher.

Nobody 'needs' to do anything, we are all capable of making up our minds, you telling us what we need to think doesn't really go down well.

04 Aug 2015 14:56:50
Option 3 it is then!

04 Aug 2015 17:55:24
It's nice that the centre he's kept at let's him use the computer, but they really shouldn't give him so much sugar before he goes on.

04 Aug 2015 10:11:04
Hi Guys

So 2 of our first team squad have all but left us for French clubs.
One of them I wish all the very best of luck the other I wouldn't p**s on if he was on fire.
I really liked watching Rafa.A good attacking full back who gave his all for United even though he was prone to an error or two.He loved the club and his comments since he left shows what a class lad he is.
Then there is Di Maria.Good riddance to him all he is interested in is the money.So much talent and no b*******.We are well shot of him to be honest.My advice to him is don't catch fire if I'm close because I will just walk on by.
Hopefully that is it now for the outgoings and hopefully we can concentrate on in-comings.I think Pedro will be next and I have a hunch for Bale or Thomas Muller.

04 Aug 2015 10:41:29
Di Maria is not leaving for the money. He's not happy in Manchester and it might be as much to do with the manager as the attempted burglary or the fact that he never really wanted to come here. But that said, his effort has been poor and his commitment abysmal.

04 Aug 2015 10:49:59
He was badly managed to be fair

04 Aug 2015 10:59:10
Pep,

Badly managed??? If I was being paid £300k a week I would do exactly as my manager said and have some pride in earning the money I was being given. Di Maria has nobody to blame but himself for his disaster over here, he couldn't hack the premier league physically and obviously couldn't hack it mentally. As Thiago Silva said, he is going to a bigger club now anyway, so sure he will be fine!

04 Aug 2015 11:50:34
Ha I like the ending gds2. Have you seen how psg line up against giggs, hilarious

04 Aug 2015 13:07:27
I know, whole thing made me laugh, what a tool.

04 Aug 2015 13:57:39
Hi Guys

I can't believe some are remotely defending Di Maria.Not about the money,poorly managed complete tosh.The man is being paid a kings ransom to play football,nothing dangerous and nothing life threatening.If I was being paid his wages and my manager said jump I would say how high.I agree with GDS and I can't believe that his and my views are not supported whole heartedly by the very fans Di Maria has insulted and taken the P**s out of for 1 season.There are players out there with far less talent than Di Maria but a lot more desire and dedication.One of those is Pedro.When Di Maria feels fit enough to take his medical I hope the first thing we do is get Pedro in.

04 Aug 2015 08:52:14
With the departure of ADM all but finalised by a medical, does anyone else think we are just waiting for this to be completed before announcing something big? I can't help but think, with the biggest shirt sponsorship deal in sporting history being launched this week we are a little quiet. I personally think in true MU form (keeping us in the dark until the last minute) Woodward is up to something and by this time next week we will all be blown away.

Anyone else share my optimism?

04 Aug 2015 09:19:08
It will be nothing to do with the shirt sponsorship!! Did you not notice 'Adidas Day' passed without us signing Messi and Ronaldo?

04 Aug 2015 10:16:50
I think ibrahimovic is only realistic surprise

04 Aug 2015 10:28:01
GDS2 - I think you have missed my point. I just find it a little strange how we have launched the new kit without a big shiny marque signing to stick on the back of it (yet) hence why I am optimistic its because we want to be sure ADM is 100% gone before we announce something. I never mentioned anything about Ronnie or the hobbit, I just think there is something (someone) we will all be very excited about before the end of this window.

04 Aug 2015 10:31:13
I hope you're right Chappers - but with the news this morning of the Dutchmeister putting Jesse Lingard up for sale I am slowly, slowly beginning to lose faith in what's going on at OT.
Yep. they do keep us in the dark until the last minute, and then pitch up with Nobottle de Marias and Falcaos.
So far so good this year, but why no big, nasty fearless CB who would scare the EPL sh.ess every weekend?

Strange times.

04 Aug 2015 10:41:17
Pepgiggs - that is who I would put my money on.

04 Aug 2015 11:04:24
notimetoulouse (great name by the way),

The question was asked on here a few days ago and a few weeks ago about Lingard and the opinion was split, it is fair to say that he is never going to be a regular at United isn't it? He will probably be a decent squad player at best but you would never want him playing against a top side, if we sign Pedro he would be 3rd or 4th choice right sided player behind Mata, Pedro and probably Pereira, so his game time would be extremely limited.

I would like him to stay as a utility player but for his career it might be best if he moves, not sure selling a squad player at best would make me lose any faith in what is going on, why does it cause you so much loss of faith?

04 Aug 2015 11:09:00
notimetoulouse - Me too pal, I will keep my optimism until the window closes or until LVG says otherwise.
If the rumours are true I also find that strange and disappointing about Jesse, he always seems to do well when played in the 1st team, I have always considered him one of the brighter talents coming through, I hope the rumours are not true.

04 Aug 2015 00:39:34
Ed any interest in van dijk of celtic from United thanks

{Ed007's Note - No.}

04 Aug 2015 07:44:20
He's better than Evans and Jones but we need a top cb.

04 Aug 2015 09:09:23
the more i watch of him the better inthink he is

04 Aug 2015 12:49:55
Agreed Jred

03 Aug 2015 23:31:49
So. Di Maria. Longest medical in the world, or what?

Be gone Ratboy!

04 Aug 2015 01:37:12
He is too tired to scratch his small marbles right now. Apparently, he can't seem to locate them!