10 Dec 2012 23:39:42
Just watchin the mourinho thing in the pub and to be honest I'm not to sure Sir bobs comments are truthful in that he may be deflecting the media towards other targets.
IMO there is o Ly and for the past 2 years has only been 1 successor and Jose is the one.
His antics at real have left allot to be desired but at the same time he would be under far less pressure at us and he knows how to change a team to what he wants.
There is only 1 man to take the succession of SAF in his stride IMO and he is
Jose Mourinho!
Jono
I for one would not like jose here he is a class less man who for my opinon always over steps the mark he is a cheat and a liar and not what we need at ot plus dont realy like his style for of play to negative for me plus he only ever done good when he has shed loads of cash. for me its moyes done a propa job for everton honest and hard working has the same values as sir alex is modest and hummble unlike the arrogent cocky slime ball that is mourinho Katef.
Don't hold back there Kate - tell us how you really feel about Jose :)
StevieK
I think we all know jose is a great manager no doubt but do we really need a man that has to be the center of the universe moyes who would be my choice does not have the same set of skills and his cv reads nothing compared to the special one but he is honest and hard working and has done very well with a small budget and i beleave if jose had a team like everton to manager he would find it much harder and won very little and with moyes i beleave with the squad he inherits and the cash he has available and the best set of youth players we have probably ever had he can do great things without the idiocrasy jose would bring maybe if he came to united he would mellow and know the role he has to play and not the mouth piece he is oh and if moyes comes expect baines who i rate the best left back in the country and maybe barkley to who the staff at evreton rate as good a prospect as any they have had come through rooney included Katef
11 Dec 2012 09:49:46
katef really? You'd rather have Moyes over jose? One's won every trophy going and the other swings from relegation battles to the edge of european qualifying. I'd rather have the proven winner who's won trophies in every country he's managed in.
Comparing jose to moyes is not faire jose has had money and teams with worldclass players in every postion ok his record is outstanding but he is does not have the class to uphold our rep he is rude arrogant and a bully moyes is honest and is doing a very good job he has come close to being in the top four more than he has at being relegated would jose have won anything at everton. jose had a wonderfull team at porto and he has had his fare share of luck and parking the bus to get were he is were as moyes is yet to have a really top team to perform at i supose the manager with proven track record all be it with the best team ever is pepe guardiola he would work well with the outstanding talent coming through and is a gentelman as well so he tops jose on everything for me. Katef
WTF long ball moyes you have to got be rubbishting me
Pardoe
Even if he dragged this club's good name through the mud?
StevieK
Pardoe lets be honest everton under moyes play good football and its wrong to say otherwise how many teams in the top eight have evertons budeget none is the answer and i think you will find that most evertonians are happy with there team and there style you can only work with the players you have got and moyes has done a very good job baines and fellaini are outstanding players but thats about it and they still compete and over achevie every year if you gave moyes 30-40m each year i think his teams would play football a bit more than they do now to think a man of moyes calibre and longevity does not know how to set a team up is wrong i think it will be moyes after sir alex he for me ticks more boxes than the rest only time will tell who takes over from sir alex who ever does has big shoes to fill indeed. Katef
My heart says Ole, (though in all honesty, ke's more likely to be the manager after next in 5 - 10 years time), but my head says Moyes. He's hewn from the same granite as SAF. If he was to come to OT, lets hope he bring Fellani with him.
Mik
11 Dec 2012 13:50:59
ok you convinced me. Moyes is honest. Give him the job then. Personally i don't think moyes would cope with the pressure. Also his teams tend to park the bus a fair bit and play boring defensive football the same reason you don't want jose. Its a fair point on resources. But i do think jose could have won something at everton he's a better tactician for a start. Also it highlights for me moyes lack of ambition in staying for so long at everton. Lastly west brom have a similar budget and their doing well so is steve clarke in with a shout as well? He's quite honest as well.
Aside from top teams reluctance to take on British managers, where else could Moyes have gone over the years that would have been a step up from Everton?
Utd and Arsenal was never happening. City have only recently been in their exalted position, but before then they would have been a step down from Everton. No self-respecting manager would want to work at Chelsea.
Possibly only Spurs out of the teams available, would have been a step up for him. Not so much lack of ambition, but lack of opportunity.
StevieK
Everton fan who cometh in peace. Interesting some of the comments on here about moyes. It seems Katef knows her football. Moyes's net spend in 10 years is circa £15m which is nothing. I would imagine 90% of the entire premier league teams have spent more than moyes in the last decade. Also to say he plays long ball and parks the bus is a ridiculous comment. He plays to his teams strengths and ability and employs different tactics against stronger teams. Its called being a good manager. Do people think you can play tiki taka ala barcelona style with players like phil neville, leon osma, tony hibbert etc. I think the answer to that is a definate no lol. Anyway in my opinion you could do a hell of a lot worse than moyes and i for one would not swap him for mourinho
Cheeks
Well said Cheeks. I think most football fans have the utmost respect for what Moyes has done at your club.
Like I said above, it's not his fault the opportunities haven't been there for him to maybe prove himself at one of the very top clubs, and he has to find an effective way of playing with the resources he has.
I don't know for sure if he is my preferred candidate to take over from Fergie, but he certainly deserves to be in the mix, and given a fair hearing.
I know this - I'd take a man like Moyes over a man like Mourinho every day of the week.
StevieK
No chance, he'd crack under the pressure. Also it would show a total lack of ambition from us if Mourinho, Blanc, Guardiola and possibly Klopp were all available and we appointed Moyes.
There is no way in the world StevieK is a real Utd fan, at least not Manchester United. I have yet to see him say one good thing about the club or any of the players. What's wrong Stevie, did Colleen pick Wazza over you at the school dance?
Roy Keane's Snarling Army.
To be fair to steviek has not slated anyone at the club on this post just talking thru his opinion on who should be the next manager and if there is a better managers for the club than jose and i for one would much rather moyes than jose i dont think you read and understood the post he is talking about jose potentialy rubbishing the clubs name nothing about rooney on this post. jose is class less do you want a manager who pocks opponents in the eye a manger that accusses the manger of the opposition of going in the refs room at half time and was wrong by the way and the ref retied because of it. no we real united fans dont all want jose because he is not a manger that should ever be at this club go city or back to chelsea or stay at madrid a team full of pre madonas stay away from united unless your willing to change your whole ethos jose , moyes could take over and do the job with dignity and pride and for all you win at every cost no matter what, he would also be successful and win lots of trophys you will all be be saying what a great man he is if you say the same now about jose then have a thought about his other side of him do we want that ? katef
Steve Clark actually made the accusation and Mourinho is special breed. A footballing genius with a very complicated personality and obvious flaws. So it comes down to the trade off and what that means for the club if we ever hired him.
Shahram
Sorry Shahram it was Steve Clark but still does not disprove what jose is like and David moyes is of a very speacil breed of people and that is glaswegen and scotish we all now what happens when we have a scot at the helm also look to the amount of glaswegens managing and doing it right there is loads and you cant tell me jose is better than sir Alex or Busby he may be more modern but moyes is from his generation and if given the chance could do another dynasty here, he has similar control of everton as Sir Alex has of us would probably bring Baines and Barkley with him he does know how to put a team together and parks the bus when needed much less of late because he has put together a good team i remeber the days of fancy dans that thought they were all that Ron Atkinson and before him sexton what did we win two fa cups and we all know what happened lets repeat history with the best times ala now and the times of the babes under a strict and clever scotsman Katef
RKSA - either you're an ignorant little troll, or just ignorant. Look up my name - you'll not find one bad word against this club, or the majority of the players.
StevieK
Agree with StevieK + Katef + Ceeks, anyone with half a brain can see Moyes has done a class job at Everton on a shoe string budget. To say he plays long ball football or he hasn't won anything is a little ignorant IMO
Having said that he wouldn't be my choice, would show a lack of ambition given the level he has experience at. My choice would be Jurgen Klopp
Gav