Manchester United Rumours Archive June 10 2012

10 Jun 2012 16:56:19
On the Liverpool page there is a couple of posts about Willems to which the eds have replied saying he's old Trafford bound? Is this so?

LUKE CHADWICKS LOVE CHILD

So peeps? is he? would love to get another one over the scousers!! :o)

What the hell are you doing on the Liverpool page:)

That was Ed002 that answered both questions on Willems, maybe she has an idea that he is ,certainly a good prospect but supposedly Blackett sp? is very good too

Pardoe

Keep your freinds close, and your enemies even closer!

J - Stand

I must confess I wasn't actually on there my brother supports them, poor judgement I know but he was influenced by my dad who also supports them! Me however I seen the light :)

LUKE CHADWICKS LOVE CHILD

Can't see us signing s left back as Fergie seems to love Evra (definitely the weak link in the team IMO) and Tyler Blackett will be ready to step into the first team in next couple of seasons. I rate this lad very highly and think he is the future United and England left back.

I heard a rumour from a much more reliable source who says united buying if not bought jordi alba as long as he passes a medical after euros please luke jr stop posting about every player you see at the euros cheers

10 Jun 2012 14:21:16
one thing that really annoys me is people saying evra shouldn't be replaced because he is the club captain. Wrong. Vidic is the club captain and when he picked up a season ending injury he needed replacing. There was a lack of candidates. Rio and Giggs have both had the armband before but neither are regular starters anymore. Scholes has never been interested the guy has no ego. Rooney isn't captain material and neither is carrick. It would have gone to fletcher but he had his own health issues. It only left evra. Once vidic is back he is captain. But it does raise the question of long term who gets the job. Some say jones but first he needs a regular position.

I will think you will find evra is current captain . Or technically Is Ferdinand not actually club captain but due to injuries it got passed temporarily to vidic. Back to the drawing board eh ? Either way your theory is flawed !

I think you'll find Vidic is the Captain...if Ferdinand was captain, wouldn't he have the armband when he plays? either way your theory is flawed....

Vidic is officially club captain! End of!!

Redfrosty7

It doesn't really matter who wears the armband at the end of the day. When Rio plays he shouts at everyone like he has CAPTAIN tattooed on his forehead. Rooney has definitely been captain material this season IMO. Only got one yellow card right at the end of the season and he's always has a go at players when they don't play to their full potential. But as we know in later years SAF has always preferred a defender to be captain which is why I think Evra got it over Wayne!

Ozwald

The OP is correct, Evra being captain doesn't mean he is highly regarded still, it means he was the only logical candidate. If the rumours are true regarding Baines, then I expect Evra to be sold this summer.

Sydney!

Sydney some times you talk absolute rubbish Evra is not going to be sold this season even if we do get Baines. No-one makes someone captain for a long period of time without rating them highly. Evra is still quality he had a terrible year off the pitch last year with his brother dieing and the racism issue and was still the 3rd best left back in the premier league behind cliche and ashley cole. He's not being sold!

What was Evra's excuse for the season before then?

Evra was made captain because he is the most experienced player who is a regular starter. He was a regular starter because he never had anyone to rival his position.

If Baines is signed then I guarantee you Evra will be sold. There will be no point paying either of them the wages they are on to sit on the bench. Evra would also be taking up a value bench spot. If Baines is signed Evra will be sold, I have no doubts about that.

Perhaps you should leave a name you gutless little man.

Sydney!

Rooney would be a great captain.

Ryan.

That's a bit insulting Sydney, calling someone who doesn't leave a name a 'Gutless little man' just becuase he recognises that most of the time you talk Bo***cks. It's amazing how brave someone can be from the safety of a key board!

J - Stand

I'm not afraid to leave a name and therefore cannot hide from my past predictions and opinions if I am wrong.

I do not see what it has got to do with you anyway.

Sydney!

Sydney is just very strongly opinionated! ;)

Agreeing with Ryan, i think Rooney should be our next captain. He should get it over Jones however i think Vidic will be captain for the next year or two. See how things pan out but with the passion and great footballing brain that Wazza has and how he's been really diciplined i think he should get it. Notice how SAF always gets Rooney over to the touch line when he wants to get some words spread about the pitch..?

Ozwald

Sydney, you have no clue what you're talking about. Evra is still one of the best left backs in the world, and is al ot better then Baines, he was even given a roasting by Downing of all people. Evra won't be sold. I love how you get irate when someone doesn't agree with your opinion.

Just cause someone does not leave their name means nothing, Sidney ! You have your opinions I disagree with the majority as there very detailed but have no substance no real bite to them. Ur knowledge of google ? If I were rd's I'd give you a ban. But it's freedom of speech that matters here !

So in your opinion Sydney... What happens when we buy Baines and sale Evra and then Baines starts playing crap? No competition for places gives us the same situation with a worse player. I agree too that you talk rubbish half the time. Have a word.... Ady

And Evra received a roasting by Tony Hibbert among several players for the past two seasons. I would love to know what games some of you are actually watching.

The reason I believe we will sell Evra if Baines is purchased is because we are looking to buy Willems and it's looking very likely that he will become a United player. There would be no need for Evra, Baines and Willems, which is why I strongly believe if we sign Baines, then we will sell Evra. I do not particularly rate Baines and I do not think we will sign him, but I strongly believe if we do sign Baines then we will sell Evra.

That's my opinion, if you don't like it then tough sh1t.

Sydney!

Getting a bit touchy Sydney, aren't we?

J - Stand

LOL, nah mate I am good. Still smiling like always. Just find it funny when people jump on my opinions calling them bo11ocks or calling me clueless, then criticise me for having a different opinion to them. Just remember it was you nuggets who jumped on my post.

Sydney!

I'm pretty sure United at one point, had Henize, and Evra as their left backs. Both were quality, and both managed to get enough games. There wasnt much of a settled back 4 for the first 5months of the season. Evra is the only player in the United team really never to get a break, he's had 1 poor season prior to this one, and this season he had a lot of difficult moments with his brother dying. Near the end of the season you started to see glimpses of the old Evra.

Evra is Captain on merit.
Anyone who thinks he isn't highly regarded is fooling themselves.
Not only by the staff but also well respected amonsgt the players.
He is an ambassador for the club and some of you speak about him like he plays for another team.
A little respect would be nice.
Baines? Not fit to lace Evra's boots.

Bob

Ah a sensible post, I agree Evra looked better towards the end of the season offensively, but it's not his offensive play in question. He IMO is the best LB on the planet at getting from one box to the other, but his defending is very poor and he cannot improve that unless he sacrifices his forward play. His legs are not what they used to be unfortunately. 2010/11 he was poor, but I hoped it would improve after a good rest, but this season he was worst. I think he will stay if we sign Willems, but with Baines coming in as well I think he would be sold if that happened.

Sydney!

Sydney, i didn't mean to irritate you anyways, just came back on and saw everything that came from that first comment I made. I actually quite enjoy your opinions most of the time but I just can't see Evra leaving. And no thinking about it I can't explain why he had a dip in form the year before. But I stick by my statement I still think he's the 3rd best left back in the EPL atm.

And my names TRJC btw.

Not really heinze was number one left back and we bought evra. Evra was not really ready and heinze got injured. Evra was exposed unexpectedly and did not have a great first couple of games. Then he started to learn how we play over here and was excellent. , heinze then could not get a game. Well not any of the big games and then he saw his ass and was considering piscine us off and going scousersbut he ended up at Madrid . The rest my friend is history. !

Vidic is the official club captain. Rio was not featuring regularly before last season and hence it was passed to vidic. Evra should be sold to allow baines to get a clear shot to make that spot his own, provided he signs for utd. in five years time he can be replaced by fabio who still has a lot of potential despite not really impressing last season but a loan deal that gives him regular playing time can really hone his skills. great attacking full back

TRJC

Thanks mate, to be fair I do not think Evra will be sold either, simply because I cannot see Baines being bought. It's far more likely we will buy Willems and keep Evra for one more year until Fabio is ready, then release Evra next year, but I do believe if we buy Baines we will sell Evra.

Sydney!

Evra playing his best games at the end of the season? Hold on 3-0 loss to Wigan, 4-4 draw with Everton and 1-0 loss to city shows the bigger picture.

JJR

10 Jun 2012 05:53:42
strootman should be our prime target, better defensive mid since we have kagawa now, he's young and has the keanish vigour too, if modric comes ,it may hamper the development of clevz!

Hes not a defensive mid

Not sure you've seen him play he's no Roy Keane. He's had a good season in holland but Charlie Adams & Henderson would shine in that league
Basically he will not improve us I'd rather give Petruci a chance

Best form of defence is possession modric & Carrick are masters and are always looking to penetrate opponents defence modric as shown his quality stroopman no one knows we have cleverley& Petruci coming along fine is the Dutch kid that can't get in the Dutch side any better?

Agree with the 2 above comments. Everyone is jumping on the Strootman band wagon. Jack Rodwell should be our main target for a defense minded mid either this season but more likely next. {Ed004's Note - No he shouldn't. He is way too injury prone and his improvement has stalled. Correct me if I am wrong, but won't his injuries continue to get worse due to his ligaments or something getting weaker..}

Oh I didn't know about that thanks for the info Ed. Such a shame because he had so much potential! I heard that David Moyes is getting all kinds of specialists in. {Ed004's Note - I am not sure in all the details all I know is that he got 4 hamstring injuries in 4 months}

Strootman are u serious, dutch journalists and supporters are amazed that this guy is interesting any club outside of holland let alone man utd, if they dont rate him then we dont need him.
Buy mccarthy from wigan, going to be a star.

sd {Ed004's Note - You are now Ed 7's favourite poster.. congratulations...}

I would rather sign yohan from newcastle

Strootman is the way to go, if he isn't rated that highly in Holland then we will get him cheaper. Willems and Strootman for under �20m would be good business.

Sydney!

We need 2 midfielders and the fact that M'Vila hasn't been strongly linked to us, (except on this page), is amazing. He's 21, available for 20 -24 million Euros is great value that's 17 - 20 million quid roughly. Add Marvin Martin or Cabaye and we'd get a defensive and attacking midfielders for the price of Modric.Levy at Spurs has said : he wouldn't sell Modric to another English club and if he did he'd want at least 40 million" of course I understand that could just be "hardball" negotiation tactic. i feel we'd have to pay at least 30m with another 5 in add ons. M'vila and martin would cost about that! Along with Kagawa, Henriquez and Powell that would be about 50 million, with 20 million coming from sales that means the Glazers would have to cough up 30m. If we go for a full back i hope it's Willems for around 10 m, but I think sales and 30m from the Glazers sounds about right.
Mik

One thing i've noticed about Strootman is he is a very fast thinker. A lot of people comparing him to Roy Keane? Not really seeing that as his tackling isn't aggressive as such but he wins the ball and can eye a good pass and execute it very quickly. If we can get him relatively cheap then i think he'd be good. Willing to run but can pass well, would easily cope with the physically and athleticism of the PL not to mention his height would be a bonus, when Carrick wont be around all our midfielders are more or less midgets. - Cleverz, Kagawa, potentially Modric.

Ozwald

Ive said strootman all along the future of dutch football, dont know why de jong got the nod over him in the dutch midfield yesterday ! sign him up fergie

I think the only reason m'vila hasnt been linked heavily with us yet is because SAF is holding onto the hope he can convince Pogba to stay. If Pogba leaves then expect M'vila to be a target and a good chance of him signing.

Strootman is a good player but hopefully fergie would go for martinez or m'villa as they are better holding midfielders who can pass the ball and keep possession well. however it's tough to see martinez leaving spain though. m'vill would be a better and realistic option