Manchester United Rumours Archive May 10 2012

10 May 2012 22:39:45
Eds what do you think about Davide Santon to replace Evra (£10m) and Yohab Cabaye (£15m) for the midfield both have been playing great for Newcastle

Thanks
Jack Tyrrell
Ireland

Completely agree, someone under the radar who can keep possession, attacks well and doesn't get caught out as much as evra seems to get these days!

Santon isn't actually a left back he can play there but is just filling in there as we don't have another one ready. Hes an established rb for inter and Italy under 21s. Think it would be impossible for you to get cabaye for that price he's a class act with a long term deal. Ashley knows what he's doin. Agree he would fit in excellent at united but we are building a strong tema up here. Good luck hope somehow u win the title. Martyn

Not good enough frankly!the bottom line is we will probley bring in clyne,kagawa and gaitain.when realy my prefered choice would be tiote,modric and baines.

Santon can play LB or RB, He is quality, young and has prem Experience with Newcastle. Id love him at United to put pressure on Evra and To fight for the number 1 RB spot. Id go for him at 10 million. Cabaye wont leave Newcastle.

Santon not good enough to replace Evra. If we're going to replace Evra we need someone like Lahm or Jordi Alba.

10 May 2012 22:05:40
the mirror are reporting that united will contact everton over baines with in the next couple of days
jred

Oh god, i hope not.
Here was me hoping we might improve the squad this summer, not add more average-ness.

Bob

I could see this one happening, i think he'd be a good addition, and it would be nice to have someone who can take a free kick again!
Andy B

10 May 2012 18:07:36
is there any interest in falcao?

I imagine Chelsea will offer Torres plus cash for Falcao this summer.

Sydney!

Doubt that Syd that would mean Chelsea will have to sign 2 strikers with Drogba leaving.

Very much doubt Torres and money to be offered.

Well would you straight swap Falcao for Torres? I know I wouldn't. Forget the £50m fee, Torres is probably worth £15m-£20m in today's market whereas Falcao is easily a £30m player.

Sydney!

But they have money Syd, Torres has just come into form, they will be buying somebody to play with him not to replace him.

GDS

Torres has not come into form mate, by laws of average he was going to score a few eventually. I would swap with Atletico, then buy Higuain & play Sturridge as a striker. Keep Drogba for one more year whilst Lukaku is out on loan. Falcao, Higuain, Sturridge & Drogba/Lukaku isn't a bad four.

Sydney!

I would take Torres to OT tomorrow...he would fit well and be loved!

Class is permanent and all that...

Lets go and buy fat Ronaldo and Luis Figo then shall we? If class is permanent like you have just said. When a player has lost his pace and his edge there is no way of getting it back. He can try to adopt a different style of play, but lets face it speed and quick bursts was what separated him from the rest. At 28 he doesn't have time on his side does he.

Sydney!

I think every top side in world football will have some sort of interest in Falcao, I just don't think United will be in for him. You never know though.

United Till I Die 1987

Did chelsea's interest in falcao not end when AVB left
jred

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea's interest in Falcao long pre-dates AVB.}

Lost his pace at having just turned 28!? think its more of a confidence thing combined with adapting to a new playing style. Swap for falcao with or without money actually seems fairly feasable tho.

Atheltico bought falcao last summer only for 40m euro. why would they sell for less when he's been great for them!

Devil for Life

We don't really need another striker. Rooney/Welbeck/Hernandez are doing well up front. It's the midfield we need. Scholes won't last much longer... nor will Giggs.

A lot of rumours going round about Javi Martinez at the minute. He'll be a great signing if we can get him.

10 May 2012 16:59:05
Ed i want to know if any scout was sent to watch the Europa league final last nite.
Sir Alex should stop worrying himself with deals that are not likely such as Hazard,modric etc.
You have the likes of cheick Toite,sidgurdsson,joe allen,dembele and others who will be much more cheaper and also good.

Good players, but I don't think they'll bring that touch of class that we need. I think that would just add same level depth to a squad that is becoming increasingly average.

TM

We don't wanna settle for just good, we wanna be looking at world class players, we already have good players at the club, we need a world class midfield player at the very least

BONEYJOE69

Good players make a good team! Exceptional players make an exceptional team - this is what United have been known for, for many years! Our ability to take young players with exceptional talent and turn them into the world best players!

BONEYJOE69

At the very least? What would you expect then? I can tell from your name that your quite immature. Joe Allen all day long for me, he's easily been the 4th or 5th best midfielder (Not AM, actual midfield) this season. Behind, Yaya, Modric, Ramires and maybe Song. Not bad for someone who's only 22.

Percy

Percy, so u dont rate silva as one if the best midfielders this season?! First half of the season he was untouchable! Easily the best player in the prem! And thats including van percy and rooney! But allen is a decent player, very good pass completion rate aswell

There is a reason they are much cheaper players. All good decent players, and all suitable to be top players in mid table teams. Good people are coming up with different names from the norm but come on, seems all of a sudden now City look like winning the league everybody is panicking they will buy all the top players andwe need to go for the bargain "bin", is the Liverpool site or something?
Invisible STuey

We dont want good players,we need class.
quinner99

10 May 2012 16:11:53
We should press ahead and sign James Rodriguez of FC Porto. He seems to be a very good player with great promise and plus a left footed player would be great for us. Man Utd for life!!

I read on the official site that Porto won't let anyone talk to him unless they meet the 45 million euro clause in his contract. Ridiculous money for a developing player.
20 Rising

I'd love us to sign Rodriguez, he's f***ing class (sorry for expletives) and will only improve at a better side, no disrespect to Porto. Only problem is Portuguese teams sell players for a fortune.

United Till I Die 1987

Doesn't James Rodriguez play for Sporting.

10 May 2012 15:36:47
Just out of curiosity, how would people like us to set up if we do acquire the people we are 'supposed' to? If we ignore the defence - I can't see us setting up with anything other than a back-four for a while. In terms of attacking, would people like a front 3 of Hazard, Rooney and Kagawa? with Rooney furthest forward, and Wellbeck being substitutable into that (pretty much) anywhere?

If this is the case? Only an assumption from me. Where do the rest of the players fit? or are we going to play 5 in midfield etc? I'm only looking for ideas, the players that we're suggesting are great, but with a traditional team set up, I wonder how we will make it modern (what I believe is part of the gulf between us and Barce rather than our 'poor' players) and if these players are the right ones to do it.

I just wondered what you all think? I suppose not just a United question but a football one too.

Jack

Obviously it depends who we sign, but I suspect we'll either stick as are or play a 4-3-3/4-5-1.

judging by the players we are rumoured to be looking at, i'm inclined to go for the 3-3 / 5-1 setup, because it would seem were looking at attacking players that aren't strikers, given that berbatov and possibly Owen/macheda are heading out, a 1 striker system seems likely.

having said that, Rooney has been playing off a striker this season, and a lot of it would come down to where he would play, if he were pushed on, as was the case a few years ago, I can't see us playing anything other than a 3-3/5-1 formation.

I would like to see us sign a proper goal getter though, to play ahead of Rooney. Just my opinion.

TM

I do agree with TM though

Personally, I would rather us go after a real classy finisher and leave Rooney in the hole (but cant see how this ties in with buying a player like Kagawa, if it becomes true)

Gav

I've been thinking the same...with some of the players we have been linked with or fans are calling for i.e. Hazard, Kagawa, Muniain they would seem to suit a narrower formation like City use, perhaps a 4231

But the problem with that of course is that Fergie loves out n out wingers and he loves a bit of the old 442 (or 4411 with Rooney/Cantona) so it's hard to imagine him going narrow

So I can only imagine that if we had of bought Nasri/Sjneider last summer or if we buy Hazard/Kagawa this summer they would take Rooney's place in the hole with Rooney pushed up front?

It would make sense as there arent many rumours linking us with top strikers and I would say Wellbeck needs time to develop before becoming a regular starter (if we are going to compete at the top) plus Hernandez should be used more as an impact player or in lesser games for now IMO

Gav

10 May 2012 14:20:35
Why is everyone so convinced Hazard is going to city ?
His agent has rubbished all this "ill be wearing blue" crap,
He has voiced his admiration towards MUFC and Sir Alex more than once,
and he said he wants to play in a team were he will play every week, so this all points to him coming to us, the Glazers owe us a HUGE signing and I for one would love that to be Eden!
Comments Welcome.

L.A.7

Us United fans might think the Glazers owe us a nice big treat in the transfer market, but it's debatable whether the Glazers themselves share that view.
They seem more of the taking type than the giving type.
I just can't see us trumping Citeh's fee and wages.
Would Hazard really choose us for "football reasons" like Fergie mentioned recently? For regular football?

I don't know enough about Hazard to answer that.

Cheers
Bob

Ild love it aswell it would take some of the abuse away from the glazers and prove that although they have our club in debt that they still can back the manager in the transfer market!

Hazard
BAINES
Striker
And a AM

LUHG

I believe if we get Hazard we would play him as a attacking midfielder, ive watched him afew times this season and he can score and open up defences with a killer pass, hes Lilles top scorer&assist i think, and people need to stop hating on the potential signing of Kagawa the boys a class act, but i agree with maybe signing a left back and a forward.

L.A.7

The glazers recently splashed the cash on one of there other american sports teams recently totalling $86ish million on 3 players. So i recon they are willing to spend where needed. We spend 50m last summer and still had cash for sneijder. Glad it didn't happen though as its played about 8 games all season for inter.

That is a good point no name we spent a readonable amout on young players and atempted t sighn sniedy snieder and the money was there to buy him he was just a greedy t**t with his wages

10 May 2012 18:18:14
City aren't doing themselves any favours by spending big and how money isn't really such a huge factor as to why United don't break the banks.

Ozwald

10 May 2012 13:50:38
Hi guys alot of rumours about at the moment... David Villa apparently available for a cut price 15-20million + Sneijder around 25million and Fellaine 15-20million.. I dont know bout you guys but they are all achievable with experience too. All three of them could add to all of our youngsters games. Most of all not wanted by the bank of England "s**tty" Please comment

The only one i could see signing is sneijder as he wants champions league footy, fellaine and villa would be very difficult villa high wage demands and fellaine would be hard to get from everton.


UNITEDFORLIFE75

Fellaine isn't good enough imo Villa is what 31 or so Sneijder is only after the money plus he seems to be injured a lot and his money could buy younger players

Pardoe

THESE THREE SIGNINGS, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH.WELL SAID.
QUINNER99

Would love to see these 3 happening but the one I caanot see is Villa he will not leave Barca. Sneijder and Fellaine is what we require Sneijder can run a game on his own when he is on form and Fleanine can break up play and get stuck into tackles somebody who we are missing since Keano left. Sneiders injuries would be a concern but look any transfer is gamble, we also lack leaders on the pitch and need Rooney to step up and be one and we need Vidic back ASAP. Higuanine(sorry for the spelling) might be available from Real Madrid and might be worth a look at, finally a new number 2 and a shake up of our back room is also required most of them are in their jobs too long and are in the comfort zoon. Somebody like Zola would be my choice for a number 2 knows the game inside out and would not be a yes man like Phelan(does any of the players actually listen to him during games). Really been impressd by Gary Neville on Sky this year could be a future manager of us.

Damian M

I'd love Fellaini, I think he's an incredible player. Everton look half the team without him.

Fellaini is pure dung.....

Fellaini cost Everton £16M so why would they sell for £15-£20M, especially as rumour has it Chelsea have offered £22M.

10 May 2012 13:11:48
I was just wondering if United still had an interest in Brazilian CB Dede, they were heavily linked with him before and he is already in the Brazil squad.

I would love Leighton Baines to join us, he has by far been the best LB in the country over the past 2 years and would be a superb signing.

Kagawa is a talented player and if he is only going to cost £7million then, for me, thats got to be one of the best bargains going.

SAF has said up to 3 players if possible. I had hoped for more but in SAF we trust. I think we need a CB, LB, 2xCM and a ST.

Thoughts Ed? {Ed004's Note - I don't rate Baines highly. Cole is far better for me and that is why he is England Number 1 left back. Baines is good but I just don't think he is world class. He is given the run around by people who have speed or who are very strong.}

If United buy Leighton Baines that seriously shows how much money or ambition we don't have, he's average at best. Aly Cissokho or Izzaguire would be much better buys the latter is a genius.

United Till I Die 1987

10 May 2012 12:40:54
"I only caught a bit of the Bilbao game but Muniain impressed with what I saw. He picks balls up and works in the space between midfield and defence and his movement was sharp, in fact he played a little and I stress a little like a right footed Messi in the way he looked for gaps and ran into them.

Martinez is wasted in defence but holding our midfield would be interesting

Red Man"

@Red Man.

The more i see of Muniain, the more reminds me, not of messi, but of another Barcelona player, Iniesta, who is one of my favorite players to watch.

What do you think about United going for Muniain as a fall back option if we fail to sign Hazard? He allegedly has some attitude problems but he surely can't be any worse than Eden "i can't stop talking about other clubs" Hazard? He can play on the left and as an attacking midfielder equally well, chips in with his fair share of goals and last night showed he has great determination and work ethic too.

Athletic are willing to sell Muniain as well and have been hawking him around for sometime as informed by the Ed. Not the case with Llorente and Martinez though, sadly.

25mil pounds for Muniain should definitely test Athletic's resolve surely? Muniain, Kagawa, Clyne, Izaguirre would all be very shrewd business for the summer if we can get them. "Value for money" may i dare say it. Although i wonder how SAF talks just about 2 or 3 players joining when with the departures, we obviously need more?

REDFAITH

I agree Muniain impressed me in the final last night. He was one of the players who didn't freeze on the big stage. I hope that he is being considered by the scouts. If he was a friend if De Gea that would be even better!

Yes REDFAITH completely agree with the likeness to iniesta, very similar in the way they use their bodies to shield the ball when dribbling etc.

I would love to see him in a united shirt, his versatility & creativity would be a great addition to the squad, i worry slightly about his physique but as mentioned above the way he uses his body is very clever so that hopefully wouldnt be a problem.

Fergie needs to get De Gea to ring him! lol

Gpot7

I thought he looked like a David Silva (1st half of the season). I am sure Ed002 said Bilbao may be tempted by a 20m euro offer? That is what £18m? I do worry about his size, but we cannot keep missing out on little gems to our rivals and watch them turn out to be top quality. Perhaps we should take a chance and for £18m it could end up being a steal. I have a feeling Liverpool may make an offer for him, not sure he would want that move, but sometimes there's ways to convince players (signing on fee, double his wage etc)

Sydney!

REDFAITH

In Muniain I saw a player who wanted the ball when tightly marked in a big final. He led from the front and was brave. I know what you mean about Iniesta I just felt he was like a young Messi when he hadnt quite got the penetration into the box.

This lad is only 19, an age where Pogba is not deemed old enough yet Muniain can be the star in a major final. I know everyone screaming for Hazard Rodriguez but Muniain may be a dark horse in this. He is not left footed but his work rate is exceptional. While everyone is looking at Hazard SAF has also had chance to see Muniain against us, remember SAF often listens to his own team and we know we had rings run around us by Bilbao. I might be tempted to make him a target this summer

Red Man

10 May 2012 10:37:11
Ed! Does Lavezzi has a buy out clause of around 31 million euros?

I think if this is the case then he is definitely worth looking at(if player wishes to come).He has been in great form this season and perhaps what we are lacking up front.

Victor J. {Ed002's Note - Forget any thoughts about a "buy out clause" as such but he is available for a price broadly in that region. There is interest in Lavezzi from several clubs including Manchester City, Chelsea, Juventus, Zenit, PSG and particularly Inter and AC Milan. I think it would take a very high offer - more than 30M euros, some trading or a third-party ownership deal bid to get Napoli to sell the player who is unwilling to extend his existing contract which runs to 2015. Inter have offered 15M euro plus Marco Faraoni, Goran Pandev and Joel Obi but that offer is not acceptable to Napoli.}

10 May 2012 10:07:10
united are being linked with Dembele of fulham
jred

10 May 2012 09:03:19
Just a thought..... Most on here think martinez is a must for next season. We want a player that sits infront of the back four tackling and braking up attacking threat and then just giving an easy pass to out more creative forward player to do the rest. I agree with most that this is what we need and have been lacking this season. My point is do we need to spend 30 plus million on Martinez or are there more cheaper options. Yes he is really good at doing the job we are after but do we need to spend that sort of money on that type of player. Ther are plenty of players out there that can tackle and give an easy pass. I guess I'm just worried we spend all our money on a defensive player and then skimp on other areas.

REDP

I think the only thing that holds Tiote back is his passing which wasn't shabby at all against City, he was munching players like a stoner munches crisps.. Aggressive and a lot.

Ozwald

Jones should sit in front of the back four as a defensive midfielder. He doesn't yet have the awareness needed to be a really good defender. Smalling is the better defender. What we need is a proper creative midfielder.

Who are the cheaper alternatives, as I cant think on any really good ones that improve on what we already have hence all the Martinez mania
Invisible STuey

I dont see the difference between carrick and martinez

why spend so much money on a younger version when carrick is doing extremely well and knows the premiership..


Rudi

Martinez is a better version of Carrick IMO as he is better defensively and about as good on the ball. The bonus of having Martinez in there is that it would allow whoever is his midfield partner more freedom to create and go forwards

Tiote - I was a fan of his initially but as well as his passing, his first touch looks a little slack to me at times. Certainly for a United team wanting to do well in Europe

Jones - similarly to Tiote, I think his first touch and composure is a little lacking atm for him to earn a place in our midfield going forwards

What about Sandro from Spurs as a shout? Can't say I've seen loads of him this season but he looked class when he first emerged, he was a beast in a couple of Spurs games in recent weeks, he can tackle well, adds a bit of height, and is decent on the ball....not saying I'm convinced on him but another option to consider perhaps?

Gav {Ed004's Note - Martinez is twice as good on the ball as Carrick. Martinez has the ability to dictate play from Bilbao playing at centre back so he would easily dictate games for us}

Ed004 I will bow to your superior knowledge as I've only watched Martinez properly a handful of times, and recently it's been in defence which is annoying!

I did want to say he is better than Carrick on the ball but didnt want to ham him up too much, my main point being that he is a much better all rounder. Partner him with another good all rounder (but possibly a more nimble, technical type) in our CM and we'd be far more dominant in games...it would be mouthwatering

Gav {Ed004's Note - Both myself and Ed 1 have been watching him for about 2-3 seasons now. It was a shame he didn't get more game time for Spain in the world cup}