Manchester United Rumours Archive November 11 2010

11 Nov 2010 23:15:38
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Ed Pogba was not picked for the reserves tonight, not even on the bench, will he be involved in the U18s on Saturday or the Villa game on Saturday? {ed's note - hopefully he will face Villa at the weekend, I am looking forward to him getting his shot in the first team.}

Same here, problem is United are only without Scholes for the villa match and we have Fletch, Carrick, Ando & Gibson who can play in the centre, i would say apart from the experienced side of things he is ten times better than Gibson already but its the manager who needs convincing, not me!

Hopefully he makes the bench on Saturday against Villa but i would say hes more likely to start against Bolton in the U18s on Saturday, who are top of our league by the way, top by four points.

Good to see our 17 year old defender score tonight (Fornasier), oh and our 18 year old very talented wing back (Vermijl).

Ed United's reserves consisted of eight 17 year old's, two 19 year old's, an 18 year old & three 20-21 year old's. Isn't that a very very young reserve team? {ed's note - almost every reserve side is just an extension of the academy these days mate, first team players seem to think they are too important to play in front of one man and his dog for the stiffs. Fingers crossed Pogba is chosen ahead of Gibson, he is twice the player and I am looking forward to seeing him in the Prem.}

11 Nov 2010 22:43:48
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Ed Pogba was not picked for the reserves tonight, not even on the bench, will he be involved in the U18s on Saturday or the Villa game on Saturday? {ed's note - hopefully he will face Villa at the weekend, I am looking forward to him getting his shot in the first team.}

11 Nov 2010 18:50:31
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{ed's note - that is a great idea, maybe in the States he could be shown the state of the kids that have got into the gang lifestyle as well. That might make him see sense too.}

@Something will need to be done if he continues to be a problem, besides in America their fitness levels are so high, when United went there preseason they were so so fit, look how fit Beckham is, Donovan? they are super fit and their trainers are so technically good, with the sun, the pool in the garden lifestyle he could become a great player. He would also get a run of games too. Beckham & Donovan would sort him out.

Shame the Glazers own an NFL club and not an MLS club, he would be over their before he could blink.

Sydney! {ed's note - might be worth the club taking on a fitness coach from over there anyway.}

11 Nov 2010 18:20:12
Dream buys
adam johnson
aguero
lahm
de gea
sanchez
defour
honda
unlikely i no but 1 or 2 or even 3 of these could happen u never no probably de gea defour and honda or snachez will join :D

11 Nov 2010 18:19:48
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{ed's note - I know mate, I know there is little chance of it happening. But I just wonder if clubs did put more effort into better coaching of the players they do have, would more make it?}

United & Arsenal put in a lot of effort into their youth, United have football schools all around the world, but more importantly they have local schools for U10s. Wes Brown is one player that has been at united since 10, Wilshere was at Arsenal since 11.

Liverpool do need to put more effort in, i have been to Liverpool on many occasions and the abilities of some of the kids kicking the ball in the streets is startling, problem is they join young gangs pretty early, if they could spend a bit more money and effort on dragging them away from that lifestyle they would do well. Give them some incentive to choose footy over crime. Maye work with the Liverpool council and get talented prospects relocated into safer areas?

Something could be done ed because Liverpool only have a 375,000 population but i would say 370,000 of them love football. {ed's note - I agree mate, lots more could be done, Morrison shows the talent that there is amongst those that are in danger of being seduced by the gangster lifestyle. I know he is not from Liverpool but he makes for a good example.}

11 Nov 2010 17:31:29
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{Editor's note - Here is a link. www.manchesteruniteddorm.blogspot.com/ took a while for me to find it there is a clip of him just more than half way down the page}

@Thanks for that Ed, did he score all three goals in that clip? He is world class at the age of 15 although things can quickly change in development, Its a crucial stage in his career as he will do a lot of growing between now and 18 years old. Just hope he does not fade.

The Norway U16s coach said that the other three Norwegians will not make it at United in his opinion, but he said by the time Mats is 17 he will have already broke into the United first team, he says his only fault is his size but that will change over the next few years.

With United already bringing in Van Velzen (16) from Ajax's academy, do you think United are really searching the globe for future stars? I know we always have done but do you think they are making a bigger effort now money is tight?

Sydney! {ed's note - every club is doing that mate, but don't you think the money would be better spent on nurturing local kids? I mean the talent must be there, it just needs to be coached to bring it to the fore. I am not sure that clubs should be looking elsewhere myself.}

11 Nov 2010 15:54:40
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What we were thnking dis summer is gonna happen next summer as far as i think. . Scholes will stay for 1 more season wid another new midfielder comin in d summer n dey wud be rotated till d new guy settles into squad. .

Man utd r nt on a decline its just a transition phase. .

Ferguson is assessing his options n takin his time to a land a midfielder who cn be value for money and can make an impact 4 many years on united midfield.

Steven Defour is a certainity 4 sure. .hes nt ready 2 go 2 Pool bcz he knw he cnt switch back 2 Man Utd den. .

we a need a GK, an establishd midfielder, Defour n probably a CB. . as i m really disappointed wid Jonny Evans. .

n pple sayin abt our debts. . guyzz we did bid 4 Villa. its just dat he wasnt ready to come to England. he wnted 2 remain in Spain. .

5 years down the line i see a staright head 2 head fight bw Arsenal n United 4 Premiership. .

Arsenal probably has d best youth but just lacks experience. .

Any Man Utd fan Views on this. .?

@I can understand you mate, WELL JUST ABOUT! first i must say that Arsenal do not have better youth than us, we are very evenly matched, our U18s lost in the last competitive game we played against Arsenal although we were very dominant in the second half, it was 1.1 and Arsenal beat us 5.3 on penalties. We won the reserve team league and were crowned champions of the north and south.

My advice to you is subscribe MUTV and watch our Youth and reserves. Keep your eyes open for Pogba, Keane, Cofie, Fornasier, Morrison, Van Velzen and this new signing Mats Moller although he will not sign til February. Petrucci is also a class act.

Sydney!

11 Nov 2010 14:56:55
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I met a friends friend (hope that makes sense) in the pub just randomly last night when i was out to watch the game. My mate introduced him and said he had some sort of job in finance for the EPL? not sure of his official title. He advised there is a big movement within clubs in the EPL to tap into profitable markets by signing of players from the repsective countries. He used Man United as an example with Park in Korea and Hernandez in Mexico. Apparently they are pretty much free players due to their marketing income in their home countries. He then went on to say that in the next few years players like: Mohamed Zidan (Egypt), Gervinho (Ivory Coast) and Keisuke Honda (Japan) will generate huge interest from EPL clubs due to their marketing potential.
I reckon all 3 would be decent squad players at Utd, especially if they are paying for themselves? Whats your take on this?

Stuey {ed's note - Honda will make someone a fortune when they buy him, his merchandising will surpass Beckham's. The Japanese are the biggest buyers of football merchandise in the world, all they need is one of their own to be a star, and that lad is the best they have ever had. He would be far more than a squad player, he would walk into almost any team on the planet, he is class.}

@First of all i agree about Honda but Zidan is pants and he is too old, he turn 29 next month. Gervinho is overrated, Gyan is a far better player and he is pretty average in our rough and tough league. Also i have been reading some comments on Honda from some Japanese footy fans and they are not that fussed by him, put it this way he has not earned CSKA a fortune.

He will only make a certain team a fortune and i would have to say either Manchester United or Liverpool seems most of the Japanese support either United or Liverpool out of the English clubs and they are not going to start supporting Chelsea just because Honda plays for them.

Look at Nakamura, he played for Celtic for years and you do not see Japanese fellas walking around in green and white hoops. I would say he would make United or Liverpool a fortune, everyone else would just be buying a decent player.

Sydney! {ed's note - by making someone a lot of money, I was referring to United or Liverpool as I feel that is where he will end up. Oh and Honda may not be getting much fuss on forums but he was mobbed after the World Cup, he just needs to be at a bigger club to raise his profile now.}

11 Nov 2010 13:21:06
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Ed
i met a friends friend (hope that makes sense) in the pub just randomly last night when i was out to watch the game. My mate introduced him and said he had some sort of job in finance for the EPL? not sure of his official title. He advised there is a big movement within clubs in the EPL to tap into profitable markets by signing of players from the repsective countries. He used Man United as an example with Park in Korea and Hernandez in Mexico. Apparently they are pretty much free players due to their marketing income in their home countries. He then went on to say that in the next few years players like: Mohamed Zidan (Egypt), Gervinho (Ivory Coast) and Keisuke Honda (Japan) will generate huge interest from EPL clubs due to their marketing potential.
I reckon all 3 would be decent squad players at Utd, especially if they are paying for themselves? Whats your take on this?

Stuey {ed's note - Honda will make someone a fortune when they buy him, his merchandising will surpass Beckham's. The Japanese are the biggest buyers of football merchandise in the world, all they need is one of their own to be a star, and that lad is the best they have ever had. He would be far more than a squad player, he would walk into almost any team on the planet, he is class.}

11 Nov 2010 13:05:18
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Southern red in exile (day off work!)

Nice rumours.

Sadly comrade Reds, singing a silly version of the Red Flag, there is no money, gone.

11 Nov 2010 12:52:54
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{ed's note - do you not remember how Fergie used to always say that you need 4 top strikers to win trophies? There are only 3 (that is if you count Berbatov which is contentious to say the least) at the moment and an injury prone over the hill Owen and a party boy who doesn't perform in Macheda. You need to replace those two with one striker who you can rely on, such as Llorente or Hulk. Someone who brings something different, a bit of variety to your attacking play.}

But Ed that was when we used to play 4-4-2 religiously, United play at least 20 games a season with one striker up top. Therefore i believe two top out and out strikers, a creative forward (Berbatov) is enough, Diouf can come in, he can score goals and would score more at united. But to be honest Sanchez, Nani & Valencia can also score goals. So i will be shocked if we bring in another striker, well i wouldn't be that shocked as Fergie loves to bring in strikers probably because he used to be one?

Owen will leave, Macheda will be given two more years then will have to be sold if he cannot show his worth, i think he would have went on loan by now but i think Fergie is keeping an eye on him. Welbeck is not really an out and out striker but could be useful with his pace, his last two games for Sunderland have been top quality. Diouf must be given one year at United to see if he can make it, if he cannot cut it he will be sold. Neuer/De Gea would both be good enough, defour would replace Hargreaves and an element of Scholes's job in the quarter back position. Sanchez will replace the old Scholes, the one who used to push forward, of course they are nowhere near like for like but he is what we are missing in terms of central offense.

_ _ _ _ Neuer
Rafa_ Ferd_ Vidic_ Evra
_ _ Fletch_ Defour
Toni_ _Sanchez_ _Nani
_ _ _ _ Rooney

Kuszczak
Smalling
Evans
O'Shea
Brown
Fabio
Carrick
Anderson
Pogba
Cleverley
Obertan
Morrison
Park
Hernandez
Berbatov

We wouldn't get Scweinsteiger he will join Real Madrid or sign a new deal, i think he will join his mates at Real. One possible move if all parties were happy could be Berbatov in a swap deal with Dzeko?

What do you think Ed? {ed's note - I think you are settling for mediocrity with one up top, it is a sign that you are thinking of not losing rather than winning.}

11 Nov 2010 12:51:47
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Oops - milos krasic plays for Juventus

11 Nov 2010 12:47:14
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Giovanni Bia has gone public regarding his meeting two weeks ago with Fergie, in which he asked permission for his client; Federico Macheda to be allowed to leave Old Trafford. This tactic is designed to alert Italian clubs of Macheda's availability to leave in January. Bia and Macheda realize that with the emergence of Hernandez his first team opportunities will be severely limited.

11 Nov 2010 12:38:41
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De gea would be my choice as well but i think we'll have to sign two keepers. I'd have hulk definitely. I'd like to see sanchez or honda. Think gibson and Macheda need regular football and need loaning. I'd keep them for squad depth unless some really good offers came in. Robert the red

11 Nov 2010 12:07:10
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Not the original poster Ed but following the conversation. Agree with whats said. But who would you sign or prefer to see given the financial circumstances? Robert the red {ed's note - I would have said Banega, but Carrick is returning to form so I don't think Banega would be a good choice unless Carrick is sold. I think De Gea is a no-brainer for the goalie position, he would fill the position for years to come and is top class. I am not sure there is a need for Defour while Fletcher is there, I think it has to Schweinsteiger, his expiring contract should keep him affordable or maybe Javi Martinez. Cleverley and Morrison etc need to be given a chance to prove themselves so I wouldn't suggest buying more than one, and Gibson should really be on his way out of the door. He is just not at the right level for a team challenging for trophies in my opinion. Up front is the tough one, maybe Hulk from Porto or Llorente from Bilbao, both offer something completely different from the current crop of strikers.}

11 Nov 2010 11:27:40
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{ed's note - to be fair your defence wasn't exactly tested by a very very poor City side, though, of course, part of their poorness was due to United keeping them at bay. As for Yaya, every time I have seen City play this season Yaya has been playing as the most attacking midfielder. I really think Mancini is seeing things that aren't there, he makes Hodgson look like an attack-minded coach! Carrick is finally starting to look a decent player again, not back to the player he was when you first got him, but he is getting there. To be honest I would think it more important you got more goals from other players, stop relying on him and then he can come back without pressure. Hopefully it might make him remember he is only one player as well, his attitude during contract negotiations show he needs reminding that he is a part of the team.}

Agree with everything you just said, Carrick is now good enough to remain a squad player for United although Hargreaves will need to be replaced if he cannot get going, Defour fits the bill perfectly. United need Anderson to pull his finger out, i believe along with Kuszccak he currently has the flu but he will need to buckle down.

Ha ha i have been watching Rafa & Tevez squaring up over and over again on Sky Sports News, Tevez really does sh!t himself when Rafa refuses to back down. What do you think about Rafael & Fabio Ed, are they absolute bargains at 5.2m? Obviously they will not peak until their mid 20s but surely they were quality finds? {ed's note - I do think the two of them are quality, but both need to be regulars sooner, I fear you might end up losing Fabio otherwise. It is a hard choice for Fergie to make, Evra is such a good player it must be damn near impossible to leave him out! I wonder if the answer might be to give Fabio some games on the right side as well as the left to keep him happy.}

11 Nov 2010 11:27:24
Ed whenever i try get on main site it says

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any idea y {ed's note - I don't mate but I am getting it looked at now, hopefully whatever the issue is will be resolved soon.}

11 Nov 2010 09:29:07
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Ed i have just heard a rumour by a decent source close to the Blue goons that David Silva is looking for a way back to Spain after he has admitted that the English game is too hard for him to adapt to. Yaya has said that he wants to return to Barcelona in a couple of years after he has added a bigger fortune to his bank account (My words not his) Adebayor wants out which is no secret to anyone, Santa Cruz wants out, and probably the most serious for City is Tevez wants out.

My question to you EDITOR is can City ever win anything when they will continue to change their team every season buying mercenaries who are there just to line their pockets? Even if they retain their current players will those players have the desire to win competitions at a club that they do not want to be at? {ed's note - they will only start winning things when they have the right manager. Mancini will win them nothing, he is far too defensive and completely mental if he think Yaya Toure is an attacking midfielder!}

11 Nov 2010 08:35:07
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If your ever wanting to watch any united game wether on sky or not go to myp2p.com it shows all the matches!

On another note I know they have been brilliant over the last 15 years but plz fergie please stop using giggs scholes neville as they are way way past their best and we need to look forward not keep going back to them

11 Nov 2010 07:30:42
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Why do we even allow yanks like blaire maine the liverpool puppet in our manu site. All he does is talk about dirk kuyt. So, listen to me carefully blaire a* spain you need to go see a pschyciatrist and a good one for that because your talk is not worth a single penny. Anyone who agrees with me click believable.
MANDARK

11 Nov 2010 07:07:13
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These are the players I think we might get in the summer.
Steven Defour
Marek Hamsik
Andreas Lindergaard(jan possible)
Miralem Pjanic
And the surprise one that is Shay Given. And a question to the ed? why do you think sir alex didnot consider buying milos krasic from cska. the guy absolutely demolished wolfsburg and took his side to the last 16 of the tournament. i genuinely believed he could have been a sucessor to cr7. {ed's note - money mate, it was that simple, CSKA have plenty of it so don't need to sell, Krasic would not come cheap unless he asks for a move.}

11 Nov 2010 06:40:23
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I heard the same news too. shocking but true. my source confirms that Manchester United target forlan and neymar in january transfer window.there will be only two signings.no goalkeeper signings as van der sar can play 2more season (include this season) at top level.
1.forlan - around 20mill
2.neymar-around 15mill

-red devil machine- {ed's note - Chelsea had a bid of over 20m rejected for Neymar in the summer, before he signed a new contract. No way will they accept 15m now he has a long term one.}