Manchester United Rumours Archive May 12 2012

12 May 2012 20:10:23
does anyone know if we sent scouts to watch nick powell in the league play offs today ?
PG14

Why? Do you think we play in the championship ?

Unnamed poster , Powell is a player with great potential. He is considered to be the next Gerrard and has won every player award at Crewe the only player to have done and all whilst he's 18. Just because he plays in league one it doesn't mean he cannot become a wonderful player in the future.
Smith

The next who haha plenty of next superstars out there, get real will keane has just as much potential , shall we call him the next berkamp to make you happy

12 May 2012 19:20:44
SAF is at the German final watching Kagawa, just seen it with my own eyes. looks promising

If he went to see Kagawa then the deal will happen after his first half performance alone.Scored one and made another with something we miss a sublime defence splitting pass to their striker.Looks a bargain at the reported fees.A player we need.

Does any 1 knw wat channel the game is on ? Thanks

It on espn at 11pm

12 May 2012 19:18:34
Ed002 would things work in a similar manner to this at Manchester United? Lets say hypothetically Manchester United want a left winger/CAM and the shortlist SAF has is:

Hazard / Gaitan / Sanchez / Oezil / Robben / Bale / Costa

First of all he needs to find out who's available, so after speaking to agents and seeing who's available the remaining list looks like this:

Hazard / Gaitan / Costa

Then the manager will look at who ticks the most boxes and say for example it's Hazard, unofficially we will make Hazard an offer via his agent. Other clubs would do the same, so it will come down to who offers the most. But City could say what ever United offer we will beat it by 20%. That spells the end of the Hazard idea. United move on and the list looks like this:

Gaitan / Costa

Then Gaitan ticks the most boxes, he wants the United move and is happy with the personal terms offered. Then it's time to do a deal with Benfica. I think we could be at this stage now personally. I think Fabio could be part of the deal and perhaps Anderson will go in the other direction with some cash? I don't know, but I think this is pretty close to how things could work. Of course a lot of times clubs will agree a price with the other club before talking to the player's agent, but it's rare nowadays when concerning the bigger clubs isn't it? Does it work similar to that at United?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - No.}

Kagawa is buying his ticket to Old Trafford as I type. Playing feel in front of Sir and scored a goal as well as a superb defence splitting pass for Dortmund's third. he will fit well...

Steveytrader

'Stevey'

He is exactly what we have been missing from central midfield.

Sydney!

He doesnt play in midfield he plays behind the striker good player but not the answer in midfield,if we played him there we would ruin him i.e anderson/veron.

He's not midfield? You mong, he's an attacking midfielder not a blimmin' forward! Yeah we might have to change our formation a bit but i think that's likely to happen next season..

Thing is, he is one of those players that just know how to play the game no matter where they are on the pitch so theoretically speaking he could still play deeper than where he does at the moment. However he can't really tackle and due to his stature i don't think that'll ever be a feature of his.. None the less a superb talent, we should all keep our fingers crossed that we sign him!

Ozwald

Berbatov was signed to play just behind the striker like our King Eric and he is leaving this summer. Kagawa would be a different type of second striker, but perhaps one that will suit our style of play more than Berbatov did. Quick and very fluid. To be fair even Cantona wouldn't have fit into the style our manager wants to play. Kagawa would fit nicely IMO.

Sydney!

12 May 2012 17:32:32
Hi, new to the site.
Can I just ask why a lot of people seem to want a LM, when we have both Young and Nani in that position. I assume that's where Hazard would play if we got him (which I don't think we will). I know Nani is not the most consistent but not to the point where he should be shipped out imo. Personally, i think the perfect summer in terms of players coming in would be:
RB e.g. Clyne (probably done) squad player
LB/CB e.g. not sure, someone who can cover Evra but also step ahead of him if his poor form continues next season (possibly Baines?)
CM e.g. Martinez is the absolute dream, we really have to go all out for him - plus he can also cover CB if needed.
AM e.g. Kagawa, i think this will happen makes sense for both parties.
ST e.g. if Berba, Owen maybe Macheda leave we need someone for cover, possibly a young guy like Henriquez. It all depends whether we employ a 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1. Personally i would go for the latter with Kagawa behind Rooney, certainly against the big teams.

I reckon that would cost around 60m? not including money gained from outgoings (of which there will be a few). As a top club we should be capable of that, but alas we never do what the fans want in the transfer market.

SqueakyBum

Eden hazard can play anywhere across the front,he will be an absolutely brilliant player for someone,exactly the type of player we should be signing along with martinez but we wont,if he goes to city the gap will get wider and kagawa and clyne will not close that gap.
Ste73

I agree that LW should be far from our main priority as things stand. If we can bring in a top player for the middle of the park (Martinez?M'Villa?Modric?Eriksen?), a decent LB and a few extra bonuses like Clyne, Kagawa, Young Striker I will be happy

Gav

The problem with nani is exactly what happened against city last time he destroyed clichey this time he did nothing in fact worse than nothing
Striker we need a proper one we already have 2 young strikers and all that has done is leave rooney to carry the goalscoring on his own, we need a higuine (sp)
We need the finished article up front

Pardoe

I think most know my position on Nani, my rationale is that we could get a good fee which could be put towards someone more consistent. I have said before that we a little too hung up on two wingers as that relies on two strong central midfielders which in too many games are overrun when teams play three centrally. Swapping Nani for someone more consistent has to be a good option

Red Man

Why does everyone still think we need young players we have them we need player who are already proven therefore
cm i agree javi martinez
winger - ribery?
am- sniejder (maybe available cheaper due to them not getting championsleague)
st- huntelaar good striker and has scored goal where ever he has been

12 May 2012 17:06:23
Man utd jus nid to b mre powerful forward we nid a big striker able to hold the ball example lorrente ...we nid a winger whose fast not valencia who can cross the ball wt on leg onli to me tht is pathetic n a defensive midfilder who is able to control and command the ball pass it arnd a bit n a creative midfilder e.g lucas moura n martinez or vidal frm juventus .... we nid a left back who cn kip position n olso b able to cross the ball n if lucky take a shot or two nt lyk evra busy releasing the pressure ..chicharito and welbeck fo me shud nt play game afta game we nid sme1 wu wud mk thm compete fo ppsition wen givn chance to play ...city cn buy the players tht are hot bt nt evryone who plays good football...im hoing to see the follo win in red nxt season
lucas moura - £30million
martinez - £25million
kagawa - £17million
vidal - £18million might nt nid hm if we hv martinez
jordi alba - £ 18million
lorente - £25,million

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about these all arriving.}

Couldn't...understand...a....word....

Also please type in proper english not gangsta text speak, my eyes are bleeding from trying to decipher all of that!

Haha how many keys you got missing from your keyboard mate?

Ozwald

What language is this you have written in?

Got about 10 "words" in and gave up trying to read, please write in english

Prices shown in the post here are a bit up and down...martinez, lorente would cost more whereas kagawa, alba and lucas might cost less than that...but cant see it happening though!

Devil for Life

You have massivly overpriced some of these players alba 18 million are u mad

Day dreams of a kid playing FIFA.

12 May 2012 15:51:09
According to , Nathaniel Clyne has told his teammates that it is "very likely" he will be playing at Old Trafford next season.

Sparty On

12 May 2012 14:44:42
clyne is more or less finalised will be announced next couple of weeks. Kagawa is 50/50 makes his decision after german cup. More likely tomorrow. Should be announced what he's doing next week. Mort

I'm glad this post is a load of lies coz I'd be gutted if it was true

Actually its 95% true. Why would you be gutted? Mort.

Which 5% of it is not true?

Gav

I'd be gutted because I think clyne is nowhere near utd class and kagawa is another squad player, I want proven quality , clyne is not better than any of our reserve team and kagawa is ok in a poor league , we're now competing against a team of world class players throughout the squad , we need a few mixed with out homegrown to match up

The bundesliga one of the most competitive and high quality leagues in europe its not an @average league@

Haha Gav things do sometimes go wrong with transfers, Arsenal have recently been linked with Kagawa as well, so you neevr know but i am confident in the deal happening.

Nameless bloke Kagawa wouldn;t be a squaddie as such he'd be in the 11 most games, and his perfeomence so far in the german cup final is showing why he would be a good signing and he's looking like quality.

As for saying the German league is a poor league have you ever watched any of it? Bayern beat the might of Madrid to reach the champions league final and Bayern are not a shabby team, so you look a bit silly right now.

As for Clyne, well people were saying similar about Smalling so I think i'll give the lad a chance.

Mort.

No nobody said anything about smalling as he hadn't played much to judge at premiership level , everyone was surprised how good he was , clyne has proved after all his games he's a championship player , the German league is poor , on a one off game anyone can win , Porto did the same a while ago doesn't make them anything . Kagawa will not improve our first team one bit {Ed004's Note - Dortmund have won the last 4 one of games vs Bayern. Surely that is a coincidence.}

Wow! Kagawa plays in a weak league? The Bundasleaga (spelling) is probably as strong, if not stronger than the EPL. Kagawa would be a good deal for 20 million, let alone 5-10 million as reported. I think this guy hasn't been looking at Dortmund or Kagawa. Kagawa would be a great signing for us and leave some money for a ball winning midfielder. Could it be that being Japanese isn't as fashionable, or marquee enough for a footballer!~pretend he's Spanish or Brazilian.remember 7 or 8 years ago Belgians were consider weak footballers! Now everyone wants a Belgium.
Mik

Nameless guy you really are talking nonsense.

I remember a few people were not sure on Smalling because he'd only been at Fulham for a season and a bit after coming from nonleague.

"Clyne has proved after all his games he's a championship player" How does this make sense? He's only played in Championship and cup games, doesn't mean he's not good enough for the prem. Especially when you say about Smalling "he hadn't played much to judge at premiership level" so then isn't that the same as Clyne? We wont know unless he's given the chance.

The German league is poor, well i suggest you know Jack about football as according to Uefa its in the top3 leagues along with Spain and England.

And Kagawa would improve the team no end as we would actually have someone behind the strikers who can make a forward pass. Mort.

12 May 2012 13:27:38
Eds, I've used the search function but cannot find your comment on the latest 'Pogba is definitely going' story (In the Mail on Sunday I think?)

Do you know if this is true? Have you heard if there is any truth in the letter sent by his agent to United?

Thanks, keep up the good work!

Gav {Ed002's Note - I don't get to see his mail, sorry. I have explained already that the advice he has is to join Juventus.}

Just wondered if you had heard on the grape vine that's all, not actually seen the letter, lol. I'll take that as the situation hasn't changed for now then

Cheers

Gav

12 May 2012 12:36:25
Forget about buying more youngsters and players with potential we gave enough of them, we've had a season where weve been hit with injuries and missing legends who's retired who had an impact in the dressing room, vds, Neville, Scholes you can't replace the impact they had on the morale of the team when most needed during a game.

Our season will look like a disaster as it will be trophy less. But as I see it te young ones have gained experience at the top level and know what it feels like to challenge for a title.

We only need 3-4 world class players and were sorted!

we all know the main area we need to improve is in the centre. My ideal 2 choices would be,

SNIDJER - the guy is class regardless of what his season has been like this year, class is perminant, and we would easily get him for around 18-25 million.

KAGAWA - different opinions on this guy, but at 24 he is class regardless of what people say, his passing is amazing and his vision is top notch something we've been lackin this year, and for 7-12 million he's worth every penny!

STRIKER - everybody can see without rooney where would the goals come from? half the time Rooney is playing deep, welbeck and Hernandez are good but they need further development. personally I would go for HIGUEN (spelling) before his injury he was scoring goals for fun and with Madrid apparently interested in Teves, where does he stand?..

Or as a few other people have said what about villa? Yeah he's 30 but with Owen and berbatov looking to leave there's only really Rooney whos experienced enough to help the likes of welbeck and Hernandez and for 15-20 million. He will score goals there's no doubt about that the guy is still one of the best goal scorers out there, easily get 3 good season from him.

Another striker I like is Defoe hardly plays for spurs 29 but still scored 35 in 88 since joining spurs and for around 8 million would be a steel to back up Rooney!

I would love to see hazard but weather or not we place an offer is another thing 35 million is what you have to pay nowadays for class, but fergie doesn't belive in value in the market! And that's why teams around us will keep strengthening and we will rely on "HOPE" that the players we buy for 7 million turn into class players.

All views and opinions welcome :)

LUHG

3-4 world class players? Do world class players just fall out the sky nowadays? Even city don't buy 4 world class players in a season!!! The only world class player we have is rooney and I guess Vidic before his injury!
The term world class is batted around to much!
I

12 May 2012 06:11:55
Hey Ed, are we really looking at Luuk De Jong? {Ed002's Note - Sounds like Twitter.}

12 May 2012 08:26:23
Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that Brazilian midfielder Anderson came close to leaving the club last summer.
Anderson, 24, was reportedly unhappy about a lack of playing time and Ferguson today confirmed that the midfielder had concerns.

"When he does understand that, he will be a fantastic player here but last season he was talking about leaving because he was not playing in every game," he said.
jred

He is not the only one concerned about playing time, hes always bleedin injured. MIDDLETON RED

Sounds to me like it is a public plea to get him to stay as it is likely he will be moving on it hasn't worked for him in England

Wish SAF would play him in his natural position, as an attacking midfielder, then we would see that he is actually a great player

Anderson, when not injured, is not very good at the attacking midfielder role. He can't shoot, has very few goals and assists has only one usable foot, has not fulfilled his potential and is fat. I hope we get shot of him.
Mik

11 May 2012 23:58:59
larnell cole has also joined leicester

Sold or on loan.

Ed
has larnell gone on loan or has he been transfered??
we will be mad to let him go!!

It will be a loan deal... similar to William Keane's touted move to Middlesborough, should be announced at the end of the current campaign. (Will only be a short loan move though till January)

fearny