Manchester United Rumours Archive May 13 2012

13 May 2012 22:51:25
Javier Pastore. We were linked with him last summer, in my opinion he still is a world class player. Forget Hazard, whatever we offer him in wages city will double it. So i say we go for players that we have been linked with before. Pastore, Sneijder or even Kaka? Any Thoughts Ed?

You mean Pastore who signed for PSG? {Ed002's Note - Sneijder remains an option if wages can be resolved.}

I have seen little of Pastore at PSG. Read he started of well and has been awful 2nd half of the season. Kaka, no way, he is pst prime, Sneijder no. Pastore though I would love at this club, rough around the edges but an extremely talented player has the potential to be one of the best in the world. The problem is PSG paid a lot of money for him and probably threw ridiculous wages at him, so he is hardly going to be cheap transfer or wages wise would probably cost similar amounts to Hazard.
Invisible STuey

IMO we should have been in for Pastore last summer. He is sheer quality and I cant help but think that it was just that kind of player we missed in the run up to and over the christmas period before Scholes returned.

TK-Red

Rumour was that Sneijder wanted a private plane to fly him home after every match. Quite rightly this was a deal breaker and would be again.
However, a season has passed and he might be more amenable to a move now, probably his last chance with United. He'd certainly add quality to our central midfield.

He'd certainly keep the physios busy, he's played like a dozen league games this season. He's 28, looks 48 and has only been class when he plays in internationals.Why do you think not one of the other big European teams are not knocking on his door. Christ ever sh***y haven't offered money for him!!
Mik

13 May 2012 19:37:13
heard from a few people now that fergie likes anthony pilkington at norwich, would only cost 4-5 million.

R U Joking, surely we should have better targets than this.

A

Stop posting utter crap do one
ARB

Sorry arb, just saying what i heard, int it a rumour site, obviously you know better.

Leave the drugs alone
johndenton

If I remember correctly was he not released by United as a trainee ?

Could be wrong though..

If that is the case I can't see Fergie resigning him, also personally I don't think he is anywhere near the standard of player to make the team better.

Gaz

13 May 2012 18:31:12
Just saying, the plot thickens with the van Persie story. Talks with him will be held next week and the headline quotes him as saying 'whatever happens i will always love Arsenal'. This rumour is just gathering more and more pace, i'm optimistic that we will either see Hazard or van Persie as our marquee signing this year. Where is Darren the red when you need him, got any more information? Your post could be true.

RedDevil19

Defo think we should sign kagawa, he looked good again in german cup final. Also hope RVP rumours are true he is best striker in prem. Think we should forget about hazard! Leighton baines would be a good signing as evra Is crap in defence. Any chance of signing higuain? Out of favour at madrid!

He wont join mate, city will offer a lot more money for him than us.

JK92

Won't join city you are deluded if you think every player will sign for them
believe me they have enough unrest upfront as it is
ARB

ARB, if city offer arsenal enough money for him and also offer RVP a lot of money do you see him turning it down?

the only way he will join united is if he wants first team assurances which we can offer him.

JK92

First matey - We probably will sign Kagawa it's inevitable. Also Evra has been bad at times this season however in todays game and last week against Swansea he has been fantastic at chasing players back putting in a clean tackle etc. He just doesn't always do it which can change, i feel he still has the ability he's just sometimes unwilling.

Kinda agree with 'ARB' with not everyone will sign for city just becuse they get paid a lot more. There are still a lot of footballers of top class that will prefer MUFC for it's history and it's manager and the way it operates. City will soon have too many players expecting to start every game and it wont end nicely for them just you wait and see, now they've won a title.

I think Van Persie will stay at Arsenal, if he doesn't it'll be a move to Barca that sways him i doubt he'll go to another PL team.

Ozwald

Hi red devil 19

Not spoken to me mate in the last couple of days so nothing new to report bit reading some of the people talking about city with regards to RVP as my mate said the talks with city never went well at all and that at the min (when i spoke to him about this) they were a defo no go and that staying at arsenal and us were the only two options they were looking at at present.

Quote from Hazard-' i will be playing in england next season for a team in blue' so unless we change the red spiderman costume for a blue one, he wont be at old trafford

13 May 2012 17:30:33
Ed are there any solid rumours linking United to any players that look very likely to happen? {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}

13 May 2012 14:37:53
Hey Eds, I was thinking about this and think it would be a good idea, but I don't know if ye will agree so tell me what you think.

I think that James McClean would be a great signing for the left wing. He is left footed, strong, deceptively agile and a hard worker, sort of like Valencia. He is a very direct winger too and would add to Sir Alex's choices for the wing. His form this season has been unbelievable, considering its his first season in the Prem after just leaving the Irish League.

If we bought him and then James Rodriguez, another left footed winger we would be sorted on the wings. Rodriguez is a skillful winger similar to Nani, so we could choose from two hard working, direct wingers (Valencia and McClean) and two skillful wingers (Nani and Rodriguez) on both wings. We would also have Ashley Young as back up.

Rodriguez and McClean could be bought for, maybe, £30 million (£20 million for Rodriguez?, £10 million for McClean?)

What do you think, good idea or not?

The last thing United need to do is sign wingers, its the lack of creativity in the centre thats the issue.

We need to improve on other positions more then the wings i.e. CM, we certainly dont need 2 new wingers unless one leaves!

Gav

So young is 5th choice winger?!

Dont see Young as 'back up'. IMO he has been one of our better performers this eason and deserves a place in the starting 11.
Hilliard

13 May 2012 13:22:37
Ed do you know of any interest in Hummels? We all expect that SAF and Phelan were there for Kagawa, but was he also having a look at Hummels. We possibly will need a defender if Vidic misses pre season, Smalling and Evans need surgery and Ferdinand may have the odd problem. That would leave us with just Jones..

RedDevil19 {Ed002's Note - I think Benatia more likely.}

Benatia would also be good, he is a little quicker too and managed to keep van Persie quiet when Udinese played Arsenal. He would be a good addition, what fee? £6 million?

RedDevil19

It`s all right saying hummels
but he also might have been looking at lewandowski as well as the one`s talked about

13 May 2012 12:52:36
So with vidic missing pre-season and struggling for the start of the season, and with evans and smalling (possibly) both needing surgery

Ed do you think he will look to buy a talented CB as cover... The montpellier captain who can play in midfield aswell has stated his desire to play for us.

fearny {Ed002's Note - Like Benatia you mean?}

I think its possible, i'd say that there are three options:

-Mehdi Benatia
-Inigo Martinez
-Mibwia

I think Benatia wouldn't be a bad idea, he is another one that can play at right back if need be.

RedDevil19

That would be a waste of money, we also have Jones and Rio.
if brought someone in, who would you play when ALL of these cbs are fit??

melwing28

You can't even promise Ferdinand to be there.. fergie may look to ship him on if he doesnt accept this 50k wage cut that is being touted

I don't see another cb coming in, if we are to get a dcm as reported as an att midfielder then if is likely they would used as emergency cover, failing that carrick can also do the job as he has done many times over the last few years.
the ideal candidate would of course be javi martinez but unfortunately alot would depend on who city replace de jong with

dags

Nice suggestion Ed002, do you know of confirmed interest in Benatia from United then?

Thanks

Gav {Ed002's Note - Yes. This is an ongoing matter with Mehdi Benatia who has turned down an approach from PSG but still interests Milan and Manchester United. He has expressed a desire to play for MUFC.}

13 May 2012 12:04:00
I think given light of the managers comments we can cast off the likes of Sven Bender and all other holding midfielders off of the list. I think as well as Kagawa we are looking for a box2box player, maybe Rasmus Elm will pop up again as he does fit that mold. There was talks in January that the deal was almost in place, do you have any information of Elm ed? Joe Allen's stats are pretty impressive also so we may look at him.

RedDevil19 {Ed002's Note - Juventus, Spurs, Manchester United, Lazio, Roma and Liverpool have shown interest in Rasmus Elm but there has been no bid, no discussions about price and certainly no agreement over a move - regardless of what people have said on Twitter.}

13 May 2012 10:18:54
Why does everyone seem to think we still need young players we dont! We need players that are already at the top of there game e.g. schwienstigier (spelling) huntelaar ribery these are players we need that are already proven world class not players with appart potential we got that with jones, da silvas, smalling, welbeck they way you lot are going on the average age of the team would be 21. so i believe ferguson need to buy players e.g sniejder that are already world class

Several very expensive potential flops there.
Just because a player has a big name and an even bigger price tag it doesn't mean that they will be a guarenteed success.
The history of The Prem. is littered with examples.
Some of the best players we've seen have come fairly cheaply.

Bob

But we can get young players who are better than our current youngsters and old guys, and have as much if not more potential than the older players you mentioned. (im only playing devils advocate, i think schweinsteiger is one of the players who could properly sort us out, but i dont think he would leave)

Jaxer

You lost me at Huntelaar.

Mad Hatter

Trouble with splashing the big cash, on proven 27 -29 year olds is that they only have one way to go -down. So we buy a 28 year old for 35 million, tag on 5 years salary at 7 million a year and the total investment is 70 million. the player will be over 30 for at least 2 seasons and players over 30 get injured more easily and take longer to heal.Buy a 21 year old like M'vila for 17 million, pay him 5 million a year, total investment - 42 million. You then have a 26 year old who you can sell for a profit, or keep as the case may be. I think we should be buying players in the 20 - 25 year range, how about Kagawa 23 and 5-10 million, M'villa 21 - 17 million and Cissoko 24 - 15 million. All young, but with good experience costing 37 - 42 million in total. With a few sales the Glazers would only have to cough up 25 million or so. Then maybe get the Crewe youngster and Clyne for a few million and we will have a stronger first eleven and a stronger squad. M'villa, Cissoko and Kagawa are all proven, within price range and all have 10 years+ of their careers left. Sounds a better deal than spending 55 million on Lorente and Sneijder.Plus it fits our profile of looking over the longer term, rather then on just next season.
Mik

13 May 2012 09:12:00
So everyone gets excited by SAF going to Germany, possibly to watch Kagawa. At the same time Rio Ferdinand is being asked to take a pay cut of £50k a week on his existing contract and reports say we are after Dembele from Fulham. SAF is also hoping Scholes signs for another year despite it being obvious that his legs have gone.

Meanwhile it looks likely that Hazard is going to City and who next.

Whilst many deride Rooney as only being after the money what he said still has a ring to it and needs to be proven wrong this summer. Rooney said David Gill did not give me any of the assurances I was seeking about the future squad

Let us see the Glazers ambition this summer or I would be fearful of seeing that statement repeated by Rooney before he signed for City

Red Man

If we sign a load of hopefuls again this summer it'll be the end for few seasons, city will buy world class player again this summer so we need a few in our team.

Red Man go Blue you are getting boring and repetitive stop believing the lieing press they sell newspapers to people like you by the fact you believe everything you read grow up
ARB

Rio should take a pay cut hes only going to get 1 year deals plus hes injured a lot
I don't believe for a minute we want Dembele
And 50m a year is still a lot of money

Pardoe

I'd be annoyed if Rio signed a new deal and DIDNT take a pay cut! Hopefully Giggs/Scholes/Rio will all be on reduced deals IF they stay....as they shouldnt be playing every week and will become less influential on our starting XI

I hope we dont sign Dembele but will be delighted if we get Kagawa at anything like the quoted prices!

Gav

Wow, aren't we (United) blessed with so many non believing fans.
Anyone would think City have ran away with the title this year, never mind us still playing for a chance in the final game of the season.
Way too much doom and gloom on here.
Throwing the towel in for seasons to come.
Let's grow some balls eh.
We're Man United...We'll do what we want!

Bob

Redman, those were his quotes from 19months ago, it's just old stories being brought back up because we probably wont be winning anything this year.

JK92

Delete that post ed lol, i posted without reading the whole Redman post.

JK92

I think some are more recent supporters who have got used to us refreshing the team and winning again, they don't have the vision to see the challenge from City or what our owners have done. If you chose to ignore that's fine but I spent the first 25 years of following united without seeing us be champions and don't want an extended period again because we will not spend on the real quality needed

As to ARB grow up comments, I grew up when City were the better team and we were poor and we are facing it again unless we buck up our ideas in the transfer market

Red Man

Agree with redman if we dont sign some big names to complement our potential younger players we could be in limbo for a few seasons.some of you who comment probably havent been a utd fan when we were crap or got relegated and were very average.ive woke up this morning and looked outside and my next door neighbour (city season ticket holder,as is the one the other side) has put up a 20ft flagpole with a big city flag on it ,i dont want to be seeing that happen on a regular basis.i also employ bluenoses in my sales team and can imagine the greif i will get tommorow when i go into work.if you dont live in manchester the effect of today will be a bit easier i hope.make no mistake city wont sit back if they win they will strengthen again and again until they dominate the premier league and that is something i and am sure you dont want to see.
johndenton

Redman - I followed united around what was then second division grounds, when we went down in the 70's. S**t happens.
Chelsea came with mega-bucks and won a couple of leagues -S**t happens.
City can outspend us, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs Real and Barcelona put together -S**t happens.
We saw off Chelsea so why not City too?.I get the feeling you want us to get "marquee"players you can boast about rather than a team to feel proud of. Cantona, Ronaldo, Bruce, Irwin, Schmichael, Valencia, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes etc, etc, none were big name players when they came to United. Remember Hansen say "ya win nothing with kids" Thats when S**t happened to Hansen. Keep the faith man, or moves across city, or take up American (where's my steroids) Football
Mik

Mik
the difference when chelsea came and spent and we got back on equal terms was that we also spent and had a quality squad unfortunateley that isnt the case now
johndenton

Mik

Let me be clear I want top players so that we challenge the very large menace that is city. Then we have only 3 European cups and despite dominating at home SAF has only managed 2 in 20 years.

Everyone is looking for talented kids and we cant always get to them first like we did with ronaldo , right now we need 3 top quality players who can make a difference next season not in three years which would allow City to get established.

Red Man

Why should a player at 28 be a better buy than a player of 21. United have nearly always bought players of 26 and under.Usually it takes a season or two to adapt. With the amount of cash we'll likely have 25-30 million plus sales, I think something like Kagawa, M'vila and Cissoko sounds better than say Llorente and bits.
What a heart breaker today was!!
Mik

13 May 2012 08:48:24
This weekend is a busy 1 from united scouts as Fergie tries to wrap everything up before the Euro's.

Fergie and Phelan were in Germany last night to watch Kagawa who had a great game

Martin Ferguson is in Spain to watch Tito a right back for Rayo Vallecano

Heard nothing about us watching Javi Martinez?

How do we know he was there to watch Kagawa?
Are we assuming?

The guy that catches the eye at Rayo is the LEFT Back. Can't give you his name I'm afraid but loads of potential.

Pip

Think Martinez will stay in Spain. He's someone worth breaking the bank for, but unfortunately our chances of getting him are almost zero.
Mik

Do you mean the left back at granada?

Guilherme Siqueira

he got send off last week so isnt playing tonight?

13 May 2012 02:21:43
Eds are you aware of any genuine contact between lille and any other club in regards to purchasing Hazard? Not just interest, I know that every big club has looked at him and would have some interest in signing him. Thanks
Jam {Ed002's Note - Yes I am. This whole matter has been discussed at length repeatedly for the past year.}

12 May 2012 23:25:05
Surely if SAF and Phelan were smart enough to speak to Kagawa after the game then he would be ours? He has said before Man Utd is his dream choice I think. C'mon guys get it done!
SqueakyBum

I recall SAF allegedly speaking to Oezil but that didn't make a difference

Red Man

Why are you so negative about everything man? It didn't make a difference with Ozil because we were not his first choice where it appears Kagawa might want to come to us, that was my point.

12 May 2012 23:13:27
Hi guys, ive got some interesting news regarding kagawa.
Apparently 2 united representatives went out to Germany to try and agree a fee with Dortmund. Hopefull signs but we will still have to wait for the 1st of June for it can be officially completed.

Also transfers to look out for are:
Gaitan
Hummels
Bains
Martinez
Barkely

Ye it was fergie himself and mike phelan

Forget about Hummels or Javi Martinez.

I would prefer Subotic to Hummels. More calm & composed. Hummels would be like Vidic, a no nonsense defender. Subotic would me more of Ferdinand. Bt I reckon we'll only get a CB if Ferdinand doesn't accept the wage cut & expresses a desire to leave.

IBleedBlue