Manchester United Rumours Archive April 14 2012

 

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14 Apr 2012 23:46:47
Know it wont happen but really hope berbatov starts tomorrow. He should be given the chance seeing welbeck and hernandez are lacking goals. when he's on form he's amazing and i really want to see him playing again so he can help do his bit and leave on a high.TRUMORS

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I think it could be a good time to start him. Would surprise Villa and i think Berba is most likely to finish the few and far between chances we've been producing of late! Can't help but think Danny will start today though, which is better than Chicharito! Although myself, i would prefer to have Young just behind Rooney upfront with Nani on the left and Valencia on the right. These three wingers all need to be on the pitch at the same time, all offer so much between them! Major threats left, right and centre ;)

Ozwald

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I like both of your suggestions (Trumours and Ozwald) tbf - I just havent got faith in Wellbeck or Chicha at the moment

3 points vital today

Gav

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If we have those 3 out there it will cause no end of problems for Villa as with them going forward, that's ALOT of pace coming at them! if SAF does use that formation, i truly hope Rooney stays up top and not drop deep too much

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14 Apr 2012 23:34:05
I don't know whether or not to believe Sky Sports, but if they're right about Zeki Fryers stalling over a new contract, let him go. I've seen him play many times, and while he is a decent player, he isn't good enough to hold the club to ransom. If he went, I don't think it would effect us one bit. I'd be much more concerned if Pogba left, someone who could actually make an impact in the first team.

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Fryers is a good player and i think its just neigotiations are taking abit longer than usual. Bayern Munich are said to be interested in him so that shows you how highly rated he is amoungst top teams. I feel Blackett will be the better player but i'd hate to lose Zeki.

Shappy

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14 Apr 2012 23:17:33
This is my 3rd post on this guy now I think he is a perfect match for us....sigurdsson! great passer of the ball,great free kick taker,superb long shots as well. The way I see it you have to say its a no lose situation on him,he's 22 years oold,got premier league experiance and would cost less than 10M I'd imagine. We have to sign this guy he's got so much potential!

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I like him and think he is gonna be a great player but is he the kind of player Sir Alex wants?

Shappy

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With SAF playing giggs centre so much you have to wonder if he even knows whjat he needs?

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Ive said this for a while aswell. i think the guys good, done extremely well at the swans! Man Utd, different ball game? under good guildance, he will grow, sure of it, worth a punt - for that price, damn right!

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14 Apr 2012 22:07:29
Just wanted to give my opinion on a couple of things I've seen on here today.

1) Tevez - The man is a terrific player you can't doubt his ability, he scores important goals and he's a workhorse. As a person I don't like him, he seems to do everything for himself and he doesn't think about the people he's effecting. Although that may simply be how the Media paints him.

Did SAF reject him? We'll never know. yes we left it late to try and get him on a new deal but wasn't that because we were trying to get Benzema...Either way I don't blame Tevez for wanting to move on if we had him as out second choice like he had been for much of that season.

As I said though I don't know if we knocked him back or he knocked us back, none of us do. All we do know is that he left our club on bad terms, would I have HIM back? no, no I wouldn't. Would I have a player with the same ability but a different personality, at the drop of a hat I would yes.

In fact he's 1 of only 4 city players I think are world beaters (Him, Yaya, Kompany & Silva). Terrific player, tw@ of a person.

2) the Bebe situation.

Now, what I have read suggests that SAF and Manchester United are perfectly safe in this entire matter. £7 Million was paid to Vitoria of which £3 Million has gone missing from their accounts.

The £7 Million was paid by Manchester United and that is a fact. the issue is with Vitoria, Mendes and any other parties involved not United.

3) Gaitan.

Now, I've only seen him play a few times and I think he's decent, not the best but decent enough to improve our squad. as pointed out his Left foot is very strong and if we purchase him that will be the main reason behind it IMO. His passing isn't brilliant but he's not supposed to be a passing machine...I believe his season passing accuracy is around the 79% mark which in all fairness isn't bad. so for a winger, I wouldn't mind paying £20 Million if it meant we were able to get a similar service to what Toni provides. but Only if we have some solution to our CM, whether that's Petrucci being played more, etc. I don't know but as long as we look to be attempting to change it then I'm completely fine with that.

If Gaitan were to sign then we could go into games with different styles of play...

---usual back line and GK---
Toni---CM------CM---Gaitan
--------Rooney--FW?

With this set up we've got our 'creative' spark coming from the wings which at times can be devastating.

---usual back line and GK---
Nani---CM------CM---Young
--------Rooney--FW?

This sort of set up in terms of wingers would give us a more direct attacking threat, with our wingers looking to take the CB's on as well.

---usual back line and GK---
Toni---CM------CM---Young/Nani
--------Rooney--FW?

A mix of both, with one traditional winger and one attacking winger/inside forward. although you would need a creative CM to account for the lack of creativity from the left side.


Obviously there's different formations we could and will try but we get 3 different types of attack to go at teams with meaning they will be unsure of what we're doing. attacking from crosses, attacking from inside forwards or a mix of both.

As I said though I would for us to sign Gaitan as long as we look to be addressing the issues with CM and the lack of creativity and tempo. if that does mean letting Pogba, Anderson, Scholes, Clevs, Carrick, Tunners & petrucci come in as ourr main Central players then I'm fine with that as long as with give Petrucci, Tunners and Pogba their chances over Carrick and possibly Fletcher or Jones.

The Moon.

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Interesting read.
I'm not sure Tunnercliffe and Petrucci are ready for first team just yet. Not in a starting role anyway.
Carrick, Fletcher and Jones should be ahead of the kids you mentioned, and rightly so i think. Fletcher in particular has been missed this season, he's the closest thing we have to a DM imo.
I do think Pogba and Cleverley should be getting into midfield ahead of Giggs and Park. Love Giggs but he's not been doing it in there lately.
I think Fergie is happy having creativity/threat on the wings. Even with Scholes in the side most of our attacks come from Toni/Rafael or Nani or Young/Evra.
We just seem to over load the wings with attacking full backs.
Playing as we do with two CM's, they just just sit and, supposedly, set our attacks in motion, which nearly always involves the wide men.
If we do buy specialist DM and AM we could see more versatility in how we play.

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Pretty sure Fergies thinking around a new winger, is to allow young to play inside, behind Rooney

Forilla

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Forilla, how does that work exactly when Rooney drops into the midfield 90% of the time and we're looking at a left footed so he can use his left foot whipping the ball in.

SAF has always had a right footed right winger and a left footed left winger, Giggs, Beckham, Ronaldo, Nani, Toni, etc.

The Moon.

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14 Apr 2012 21:31:46
www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/ar_60.php

G.A.G.U.S

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Thats awesome. lol

Shappy

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14 Apr 2012 19:54:21
Hey ed

Who wud be ur top picks for summer? Do u think we have much to spend {Ed007's Note - Ozil/Gotze (we can dream), James McCarthy and Higuain.}

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Ed 07 are u james McCarthy?? {Ed007's Note - No :-(

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Aaawww - SAF has just got to sign that young chap from Wigan - ed007 would be on cloud nine - Come on SAF sign him up
:)
Mike

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Isn't james McCarthy just a slightly better version of C*****e A**m;-p lol.

Shappy {Ed007's Note - I've to sit and read your novels about the definition of world class etc and you throw that at me Shappy!!!!! An e-mail has been dispatched bhoy...wait till your father gets home!!}

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I just knew you'd bite at that bond mate. I couldn't resist putting your two favourite footballers in the same post. lol

ps, i know my monster post are the highlight of your day;-)

Shappy {Ed007's Note - That post about the class of players, my nephew got an A at school for it, cheers.}

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No worries mate. lol

Shappy

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14 Apr 2012 19:58:23
He is IMO, just not Utd quality.
Jono

Jono in comparing to djemba djemba and the likes, cost has little to do with it. if ,alex has given up on a player he'll be benched and shipped out. we agree that he should be cam but at least he's had the experience elsewhere. but to say he is not united quality we won't agree on.

the man needs a consistant run with a consistantish line up in an advanced position and we will see what he has. before the latest injury he was showing it.

the biggest problem is injuries.

cannot rely on him but stays at fit one year ifully expect him to prove he has the quality. but we do need a quality player we can rely.

my hunch is with the style of play aiming for that we will get the best out of him.

as for the youth i hope they can compliment anderson not replace him and cant wait till they do but these things take time

tactically ill used and too many injuries but does have quality is my assessment mate.

..constantine..

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Are we supposed to guess who your talking about?

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Anderson im guessing

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14 Apr 2012 19:52:56
Ed, is there any chance that we could make a move for Neymar? I think he is easily good enough to make it here, he is a very special player and say in a couple of years, if he was our only signing, i'd be delighted. {Ed007's Note - To be honest I think there is more chance of Utd signing Sport Billy than Neymar.}

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Ed007... if we did sign sport billy would he be able to use his bag of goodies ??

oxred {Ed007's Note - Of course he would. That would be like signing He-Man and taking away his blonde flowing locks!}

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14 Apr 2012 18:41:39
I think the press are mistaken in our pursuit of Gaitan, i think the real target of ours at Benfica is Axel Witsel who, in his first season, has been an absolute rock in the middle of the park. Very much like Yaya Toure. He is a much more viable option that Martinez is and probably a safer bet than Strootman who has only been playing at a decent level since August when he moved to PSV.

People will say that they don't want Witsel here due to his bad tackle when he was at Standard, but you have to remember that Keano did the same when he was here but he was still loved by the majority of our fans. Everyone deserves a chance, and i for one would be glad to see him here instead of Gaitan.

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I wouldn't due to we need quick agile footballers if we r going to compete with barca / Madrid

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Witsel smashed the guys leg into pieces.
Keane gave Hangaland a sore knee.

Massive difference.

Witsel is as crazy as Balotelli.

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Many people used to mention his name a lot last year but since he tackled 'Wasilewski' , nobody seems to want him at United.

MUMBAI_BOY

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What about keane vs ing-haaland? (was still ace tho)
duggo

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He did that tackle over three years ago and has matured alot since then.

Shappy

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I would have thought if we were seriously interested in Witsel we would have made a move for him over the summer whilst he was still at Liege. From what little I have seen of him I think he is a technically good player but nothing special. Can only imagine it as a panic buy if Pogba leaves, which wouldnt make sense. Also cant believe the bad vives regarding Gaitan. Looks a decent player to me though not sure he would be my first choice. Maybe reaction is down to the crazy fees beign mentioned in the press? Incidentally, does anybody have any idea how Pastore is doing at PSG as was a big fan of his for Palermo
Invisible STuey

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I can say that Axel is a very sympathetic player. I come from belgium and I know that Wasyl is a crazy person. If Witsel didn't react in that phase, than had he a severe injury. Many men here in Belgium said that Axel was scared of Wasy. Because Wasyl is not normal on a field, did you know that he has a scare on his back by wasy?! So I just wanne say that Axel is an incredible good player. He shows respect, in contrast to Balotelli. He loves the fans and he respect them. He's a wonderful boy and a hard worker. Sorry for my English language:-)

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14 Apr 2012 17:43:33
I've just had a read of Nico Gaitan's profile on this websites affiliate player profiles. Reading the general comments, he looks like an excellent player who has a good footballing brain which is the thing that i think we need to unlock defenses. No doubt ed022 has more ideas than we do about him, and from what i can tell he has a good footballing brain, good ball skills and an excellent cross with an eye for goal. Furthermore, he is left footed which i think could be crucial, apart from James Rodriguez and maybe Gareth Bale, he would be one of the best left footed options out there that we could get. And lets be honest, he has to be good to be rated higher than Di Maria at Benfica.

All in all, SAF is going to sign players based on the position that he needs and i think he is on the lookout for a left sided player who is left footed. That may be why Hazard perhaps is not a target and Meulensteen is giving us the run around. Other positions that he may be looking to fill as well as the left midfield area is central midfield, perhaps a left back and a striker. In all honesty its likely that we will go for players around the £15-£25 million price tag. Gaitan, Wolfswinkel, Cissokho and Strootman would fit that price tag.

RedDevil19

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Giving us the run around with Hazard? Is SAF going to personally watch him part of that 'run around' lol

Ozwald

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14 Apr 2012 17:13:33
during the Livorno match earlier on today, Piermario Morosini collapsed and died on the pitch, Only 24 years years old, Such sad news, You just never know whats around the corner

R.I.P

Dylan

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Really is awful news, hate reading/hearing things like this!

Ozwald

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Such sad news R.I.P morosini our thoughts are with your friend and family

Whitey

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Rip thoughts to family and friends

Dio

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14 Apr 2012 14:55:13
I don't yet have an opinion of Gaitan, i haven't seen enough of him. I have only seen him in the games he played against us and Chelsea. Could somebody please give me a decent description and hopefully an educated opinion?

Regards

Andy {Ed007's Note - www.player-profiles.co.uk/nico-gaitan.php

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Thank you Ed007, i also youtube'd' him after reading this. I know all the things on youtube are carefully selected 'greatest hits' but he looks exciting. Why is there a negative buzz around his signing?

Andy {Ed007's Note - I'll hold my hands up and admit I don't see enough of him to form a valid opinion.}

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Think he is going to be a world beater and the negative stuff on this site is coz they play football manager and think a player can adapt and fit with any team and have the right mentality but they are mostly wrong gaitan is a very very good player

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14 Apr 2012 13:09:27
Y is Tom Clevs not starting games but an old wshed up giggs is? I really dont see what he brings to the team anymore.

Gaitan would be a second rate player to pick up id rather the club save the money then by that crap. what difference would he really make? I rather have a punt at wesley he should be much cheaper now and his wages have to come down after his poor slump I bet that pay cuts dont look so bad agter the season hes had aye? 20 million max on him now 4 more then we paid for young id buy him proven world class player with enuf left in the tank.

Y did we not sell berba in the summer very strange not had a look in since xmas and its not as if welbeck and chico are setting the football world on fire so I dont get it.

Lot of talk about Hazzard not sure on the impact he would really make but would be a good statement of intent.

who are people backing Chelsea or Barca im Chelsea all day for that I hate Barca


ddd

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I think hazard would make a huge impact, he's like a trickier modric and scores goals. . if we got him and martinez and a st who can finish, i'd be happy.
And i want chelsea to beat barca too.


TRUMORS

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Martinez and Hazard would be amazing kinda what ando and nani should have been ye? how good would we look with them guys? if you could have only one of them who would it be?

I guess im bitter about barca but I find it boring now so predictable

ddd

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Not Sneijder. Never Sneijder. He's about the same as Giggs, no back tracking and always looking for the Hollywood. Give me Hazard every day. Anyway, Gaitan is far from crap, I get the feeling that you're very ignorant and go on reputations alone.

Anderson should never have been a DM, that was atrocious from SAF.

Percy

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Gaitan is a good player but so is nani valencia and young , i'm just not sure how much Gaitan would improve our first 11.
I honestly think hazard and my personnel favourite martinez would be a huge improvement
jred

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Anderson was never suppose to be a DM.

Hargreaves was our DM until he had all them problems.

Anderson with support from a decent DM would've been an amazing MF/AMF.

I think every United fan is hoping for Hazard and Martinez!
Would really make our summer if they was bought and Berba, Owen etc were sold.

Mabzinho

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Percy

mate you dont have a clue comparing giggs to sneijder in that role is a joke mate Sneijder inspirerd Inter to a treble and was one of the best in the world at doing what we need.giggs cant keep up with Wigan. ur telling me Sneijder for less then 25 million is not a good bye? so if you have the choice you would say no to that and keep playing giggs and carick ye?

giggs dus track back a lot you might wana watch the games a bit more mate. always looking for hollywood?
Hollywood pas is a david beckham or stevie g esc 40 yard ball that is not that productive giggs dont do that he plays through balls or clips them over for people to run on to.

Maybe you should watch United a bit more rather then worrying about 2nd rate players like Gaitan.

DM Anderson? hardly he has been asked to do defensive duties as any player is if you pick clevs and ando both need to defend thats what our CM do defend and go forward if I was you id try and catch the odd game. and dont start on Fergie mate cus it makes u look a tad stupid in my book


Giggs over sneijder really?


DDD

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DDD,

Ando was a top drawer AM when we signed him. Player of the tournament at u17 World Cup. Bags of potential going forward.
He has been stiffled considerably by being deployed as a deep lying CM, sitting in a DM position.
Yes, CM's attack AND defend, but Anderson is not a CM, he is a natural AM.
Giving him defensive responsibilities has made it difficult for him to show his natural game.
I always prefer one DM and one AM, just like Keano and Scholes.
We used to play a 442 diamond, Keane in front of the back four, Scholes behind the front two. Not side by side CM's.
If we're going to play with CM's then i would prefer we buy players that can play that role, rather than moulding cracking AM's into something they're no good at.

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What I'm saying is that Giggs and Sneijder are both well past it. 25 million on an injury prone Wesley would be worse than Anderson. I watch most games mate, if you didn't realise that SAF tried to convert Anderson into some sort of DM I then you can't be watching very closely. If you don't question that decision, then it's just foolishness. And finally, a Hollywood ball isn't necessarily a 60 yard cross field ball, it's a risky ball that when it comes off looks brilliant and puts the team in a better position. No, I wouldn't buy Sneijder or keep Giggs on, I'd buy Hazard instead, although I would like to think that Anderson can get some sort of run in the team.

Percy

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I for one wouldn't like hazard anywhere near my team he would leave within 5 years and has one of the worst attitudes in world football just as bad or worst than mario !

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WS is past it, Anderson has been a flop and a generally poor buy. He was OK as a kid but an AM don't make me laugh, he can't shoot, can only pass 10 meters and has 2 good dribbles per season and he's fat and injury prone, I'd rather we got the 7m his worth, While I'm at it I think if anyone is stupid enough to off er 10m or above for Chico, we should bite their hands off. He is awful outside the box and only scores sitters. Macheda, Chico and Anderson are some of the worst United players ever, on par with Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson We won't buy Hazard, or Martinez (though I would like him here). Martinez and Hazard will be playing in Spain, or maybe Chelsea or s**tty, we wont pay 40 m+ they will each finish going for. Strootman or Tiote and Eriksson would do nicely. 40m the pair, young, full of potential and great value. Of course if it were at all possible I would love to get Lucas - the next CR7 or Messi - the kid's a monster talent. Would like Cissoko too. Raphael and Fabio are good right backs,(I know Fabio is meant to be a left back, but always performs better when he plays RB, guess it's because he's 100% right footed). The players I've already suggested would cost a total of 50-55m, if we could get 20m on our flops and Berbatov maybe get Wolfswinkel too - if we can afford it
Mik

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I have watched almost every single united game this season, and while i love Giggs i dont want to see him play at CM again. 70% of the time he seems to try and clip the ball over the defenders and usually that ends up being cleared away, or hernandez/welbeck recieves the ball and does not control it, which leads us to our other problem. Everyone has been wishing for a striker who can finish, but i would rather someone who makes runs in behind the defence and can actually CONTROL and hold up the ball. Rooney can do this but he is often too deep. Carrick has been average at best, all he needs is someone to start rushing up on him and he starts passing back instead of looking up and passing forward.

So in conclusion, I would like a decent striker with good control and dribbling skills and a midfielder that is always positive.

2Taze

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Mik.... Are you serious with your comments?? Chico as one of our worst buys? He's only been there for almost two seasons, the first he was immense! He got us that extra goal when needed and is a constant threat with his pace. This year has been harder as been injured and not had a long run in the team.
You comment about how he only scores sitters and not outside of the box. Can you tell me how many Ruud scored for us outside the box? Suppose you would had sold him too, even though he was one of the best players to play in the league.

melwing28

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To compare Chico with RVN is like comparing a kids tricycle to a Rolls Royce. Chico is fast, but can't control the ball, can't pass, can't trap the ball, can't do the basics, that any good player just has to have. RVN could do the lot and then some. The best way to use Chico, is as a sub in the last 10 mins. Do me a favor, just look at him for 10 mins, he'll run into good positions, his one good point, but 50% of the time gives the ball away or puts it out of play 25% falls over 25% finsd a team mate. I also thought he was going to be good half way through last season, but in his last 15-20 start he's not only been poor, he's been a downright embarrassment. I'm not even sure he is a premiership level player. I think we'll disagree on this one. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong and he turns into a 30 goal a season striking monster like Ruud was for us. Wellbeck, whose nearly 3 years younger, has as much pace as Chico, can dribble, can score outside the box etc, by the time he's nearly 24 he'll be a 20 goal a season man. Young Will Keane might be one for the future too. I'd rather United had 8-10m then Chico though.
Mik

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14 Apr 2012 12:24:16
What are your aims for your career?
To be a regular first-team player, a top player for Manchester United and become a legend here like Eric Cantona hopefully

Dont know if this was posted before but this is a question Pogba was asked on MUTVs focus show last Thursday surely the guy is going to stay its obvious he wants first team football and be given a chance and who can blame him.

Devil Dust.

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14 Apr 2012 00:58:09
Ed002 is this rumour about gaitan really true?its very worrying...hes a good player i just dont think he would give the same effect as hazard would.. {Ed002's Note - If you are referring to him having agreed a deal, then no. It does not mean that it won't become true at some point.}

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Why is it worrying, he's left footed, he's absolutely rapid, he can cross and score. He would improve our team and I think he could work very well interchanging with Ashley Young if he played behind the striker. He will replace Giggs, not Scholes, I still expect a CM to be brought in.

Sanshine

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Hazard having a ether affect is that with his bad attitude and could rip our club apart from the inside is tht the desired affect u want ?

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