Manchester United Rumours Archive March 15 2012

15 Mar 2012 20:51:17
Phelan must move to reserved/youth or hopefully another club. What we've witnessed this season is more fruits of his work. Our gameplay is getting like his style of play, uninspiring and laboured.
Get in someone with a bit of f*****g know how.
We made Bilbao look like the brazil 82 side.

Ps We need to tie down pogba quick though, not convinced he's a dm though like some say.
He was far more influential than park in his game time and physically imposed himself better than park or giggs.
Supasub

Totally agree supersub, ive said for a while we're missing a good number 2. If pogba signs a new deal il be smiling for a month, he was a positive on a otherwise negative night. Can't be doing with all the we are useless posters, nows not the time, we cant change the team now but we can get behind the team for 10 massive matches and help them over the finish line. tom17

I firmly believe we are watching a team in terminal decline.....only SAF, Rooney and a handful of others are where we should be at. I couldn't agree more re. Phelan. It's no coincidence that we've switched to a very boring, unimaginative 442 & style of play since he became no.2. We need someone like Bielsa who can get the best out of what we have.....and for gods sake get away from the 442 except when playing average EPL games.

RedMonkey

To be honest the tactical aspect has been poor since Carlos Quirez (spelling) left the club, was always seen advising SAF on tactics etc. Phelan just sits there like a yes man, nodding at what SAF says

Could we not promote the first team coach? Rene Meulensteen, he's the one that brought in our technical ethic at youth level and now at first team level. I think he could be a good shout for number 2.

Percy

We blame Phelan for s**t player performances , team selection sorry you make excuses for crap play by players, what you think Phelan has a hand up every players arse?

Pardoe

Best league in the world my arse yous got a football lesson from the 7th best team in spain

Mr. no name, were on top of the prem, best team in the league.... so what does that say about the others? what club do you support to come on here and say that?

Daniel

Carrick has to go....adds nothing to the team. Can't tackle or pass & definitely no threat going forward. Send him back to spurs

Agree about Carrick- he looked like a rabbit in headlights. One thing struck me was the way AB players always took the ball forward at speed with touches, passes but we paused, passed sideways, backwards or hoofed it high. You could see a sense of taking the sting out of the game etc etc but frankly that will not work against teams like this. Also where we have been embarassed this year by lesser teams it is not by their getting a lucky goal and hanging on but by running at us and harrying us. THat seems to me a call for new players in the team that can play instinctively like we used to/should be rather than simply a coaching issue.

Makes me laugh...suddenly Phelean is to blame now. Why don't you take a look at the bog standard players that we have in the team that are just not good enough. Since we won the European cup players like Ronaldo, Tevez (love him or hate him) who are both world class players have been replaced with average players like Ashley young. In the space of two seasons we have fallen so far behind the top clubs in Europe it's ridiculous. the reality is there are two many average joe players who need to be moved on. Players like Park, Owen, Berbatov, Anderson, Macheeda. I honestly think that if we get 3-4 really good players in this season we can challange again next year but if Fergie thinks that he can win anything in Europe with this group of players he needs his head testing.

Simmo

Have to agree with a lot of whats been said on this I think Phelan has to go adds nothing to the set up, if you look at the players when he is on the touch line none of them listen to a word he is saying. A lot of people might not agree but somebody like Roy Keane would be a great number 2 and would not be afraid to voice his opinions, also what about Ray Wilkins who knows the game inside out. Fergie has to take some of the blame too as he should be on the line giving out the instructions not his yes man. Also we have no leaders on the pitch anymore where years ago we had Keane Ince Bruce Neville etc. How many more times are we going to have a midfield of Giggs, Park Carrick when I saw those in our line up last night only one result was going to happen. I wish we would get rid of Park and Carrick(never Man Utd class) Evra Ferdindand, I think a lot of the dead wood will be sold in the Summer and its not before time. We were totally outclassed in both legs and I think the attitdue left an awful to be desired, they players did not want to be in the Europa League but they might start to relaise that they have no divine right to be in the Champions League.

Damian M

Agree with that,we were pedestrian they were quick and snappy,clear out the dead wood and bring in new signings and the best of the youth team,heres a few names to get us started
Signings
javi martinez
higuain or benzema
ozil
izaguirre
Youth team
Robbie brady
pogba
Will keane
petrucci
fryers

15 Mar 2012 19:57:36
After that total humiliation at the hands of a very enthusiastic and enegertic team
I hope that was the last time we see Rio,Evra Park Giggs and Carrick in A European Fixture, No complants about the result but it was obvious with SAF team selection that we could not progress
ARB

15 Mar 2012 19:42:40
I know this isn't good tonight, in fact it's bloody awful but I've heard some news today that's even worse. I've been at Cheltenham all week and today spoke to some very influential people who have told me that Sir Alex was prepared to step down this summer to get Mourinho in to avoid missing out on him to another club. It seems a deal has been struck behind closed doors that both men will do one more season at their respective clubs then SAF will step down (he doesn't want to move upstairs he wants a clean break) and JM will take the reigns. I can't reveal my source for obvious reasons but I guarantee he's VERY in the know

That would be good news, if true , Mourinho is very much the right choice for the Manchester United position. SAF cannot go on forever

Red Man

Thanks no name for the information.

Can you tell me the name of SAF's horse that ran yesterday seeing as you are so close to Mr. Ferguson and at Cheltenham, should be an easy one?

GDS

GDS.....read it again...where did he say he was talking to SAF

I'm the original poster and I had actually backed Harry the Viking as I had done when it won its 2 previous races at Doncaster. Funnily enough I was with the same person who gave me this information on one of those occasions.

If he is speaking to someone very in the know then he must be close to SAF or how would he know? Never said he was talking to him, so maybe...you read it again....

I would actually be pretty happy if this was the case, not sure why you think it is bad news at all, Mourinho has said many times he wants his next job in England to be a long one he can stay in for a long time. He has won the league at every club he has been at and has won the Champions league at 3 previous clubs.

I love SAF and would have no problem with him staying for years to come but he seems to have made a few errors this season, whoevers fault that may be, so a fresh start may be what we need.

GDS

Who cares if the poster is correct but I will say contests if he is right

Pardoe

I can see this being true to be honest, if it is i hope Mourinho pulls a fast one, "falls out with ozil and higuain" and accepts an offer from utd for the pair knowing he'll gets them next season! Obviously im joking but thats the kind of player he will attract, his ex-players woukd walk from spain to play for him.

I want to know why you think this is bad??

is it because you feel mourinho is a bad manager, or did you have reservations in reference to the time line??

oxred

Mouriinho is not the right manager for utd we shud give the job to david moyes

15 Mar 2012 18:51:34
We are 17 and 7 when Park starts and 25 and 1 when he doesn't. Also what is the deal with all the injuries?

YankSAW

15 Mar 2012 18:41:04
a few times now rio has let the ball go over his head then going mental at de gea for some reason. park and giggs in an important game bad decision wuda started hernandez and welbeck infront with rooney deep but what do i know
sulei

We are just to predictable god knows what would of happened if we played bauern or barca or real can't wait for the summer so we can get some players who are comfortable in possession all we do is get the ball wide then chick it in RUBBiSH

15 Mar 2012 17:06:58
Confirmed line-up:

__________DDG
Rafa__Evans__Ferdy__Evra
_Clevers__Carrick__Giggsy
Young____Rooney____JSPark

Sydney!

I'd rather have played a 4-4-2 with scholesy and carrick in the centre, young on 1 side and park on the other, rooney and welbeck partnering upfront, could bring giggsy on in 2nd half

15 Mar 2012 15:20:14
do the ed think we will sign a marquee name or
go for sahin asamoah fischer ruiz eriksen pulido
and does he feel andersson along with berbatov will be sold

cjwales82 {Ed002's Note - I really don't know who you might be referring to and obviously I cannot answer when I don't know who might be a "marquee" name in your eyes.}

Hazard modric sneijder ganso kaka

cjwales82 {Ed002's Note - The answer is possibly in that case.}

15 Mar 2012 11:09:58
In light of a potential clear out, possibly headed by Berbatov and Evra, do you think that Anderon will join the list of casualties?

Personally, i rate him and think he could be good in midfield with Cleverly. But he is never fit and regardless of what he adds to the team, this cannot be overlooked.

If we were to get a decent fee, what would your thoughts be guys?

RedDevil19

Regarding Anderson "never being fit" - I remember at the begging of the season everyone saying about Van Persie always being "crocked" etc - should the Arses have sold him?
People suffer huge doses of bad luck also they are physically changing, maybe we will never get a full uninjured season out of Ando - but he is worth perservering with - unless the medics say otherwise
Mike

I think its time for anderson to go.has nt really kicked on from a very good first season.don t think he will ever turn into that world class cm that we need and are used to.

I think the fact that he was handed a new 4 year contract last soon, along with our best football this season having been played with Anderson in midfield...he's going nowhere.

Fergie loves him, rates him very highly, and was delighted when he get back to fitness last week.

As for his current injury, there has been no confirmation on the severity of it so it may not be as bad as everyone thinks.

He is the most underrated player in our squad end of.


JakeH91

If you watch United and in particular Anderson closely enough you will know he isn't good enough. He starts a new seaosn brightly, and looks really good when he first comes back from injury really strongly but then with an extended run in the team he can't sustain it and ends up chasing shadows. It doesn't appear he looks after himself properly and for the position that we are supposed to be at the top of English football, he just doesn't fit.

JakeH91..

4 to 5 weeks but think he will be back in 3

oxred

Anderson brings nothing to the team, get rid

15 Mar 2012 09:27:04
Surely after a disappointing season in europe Fergie will decide to spend in the summer?

I personally think that we will need a few players:

1) CAM - Hazard/Sahin - either of these would be ideal
2)CF - Berbatov is leaving so i think he will be replaced - Higuain/llorente/lavezzi - all great strikers
3) CM - m'villa/martinez - wouldnt mind either,both can pass and great awareness of the game

A left back may be needed but might wait til following summer

Sahin is a deep lying central midfielder mate, so if we were to sign Hazard then Sahin would be the other perfect addition. Hopefully he will realise that he is wasting his career in Madrid.

Don't expect to see any big name strikers coming in. If anything a youngster will come in. With Berbatov et al leaving, it makes it even more likely that an AM like Hazard will be signed as we would have three top strikers who can be rotated - fewer strikers also means that Rooney can play up top alone with Hazard behind him.

I would say that this summer, if all went well and talking realistically we can hoep for 3 players - Nuri Sahin, Eden Hazard and Aly Cissokho. Martinez may just be our of our reach and i expect that M'Vila will end up elsewhere also.

RedDevil19

I will Pick up Sahin for us.. he better option in CM also he us left fotted player and cleverly will be along side with him....
eds there is any interest from united for sahin