Manchester United Rumours Archive October 15 2012

15 Oct 2012 23:02:47
Anyone on think fergies replacement should be Jürgen Klopp? His style of football at dortmund is really attractive and he puts a lot of faith in young players. Also, if he comes in then mabye he could bring some dortmund players in with him (hummels, gotze, lewandowski, etc)
Thoughts?

Ozzy

I'm a fan of his youth policy and, to be fair he's blooded some of Europes best young talent, but in terms of his CV it isn't up to the standard i'd want at Utd. For me it's Pep, people may point out that he had one hell of a team at Barca - which i agree with but now he's gone the Barcelona aren't the team they were 2-3 seasons ago, it isn't free flowing football now, and not knocking Klopp but I'd rather Pep come and bring some of his former employees with him!

I would have him before Guardiola and Mourinho as he took Dortmund from the 2nd tier and brought them up by using youth players and cheap bargains, he also can work under a tight budget unlike Mourinho who wants 100m where ever he goes.
I still thinks Giggs will have it with Garry Neville assistant and scholesy either 1st team coach or reserves? Fergie will stay at the club as a director but I am worried that it might hinder the future manager especially of it is someone like David moyes, don't get me wrong I think moyes is a great manager but if fergie told him to do something he would do it, we need an independent manager who wouldn't be scared of putting his point of view across so
I think klopp would be an excellent manager and could well happen but I honestly seeing fergie last 5 more years.
Great point about players too if we got klopp and were guaranteed to get hummels,
Lewandowski, Gotze I would have him in a heartbeat.
What dose everyone else think?
ShaunMUFC

Seen dortmund play against man city recently was very impressed very organised team,all the players new what there job was city were lucky to draw the game they would have lost but hart had good performance. Very good manager with limited resources..

The idea of Giggs as manager has no logic what so ever, along with past players as the coaches.
Let those players work on their badges and then start off at other clubs. Don't let them hang up their boots and then expect them to take control of such a big club right away.

melwing28

Finally some sense - well said melwing28. To think of putting Giggs as manager is laughable. What has Neville and Scholes done to deserve a coaching role at this club. Why should an experienced coach be moved aside to accommodate any of the above.
People have their blinkers on when is comes to players becoming coaches.
The thought of Giggs and Scholes in-charge, with SAF standing above them, whispering in their ear constantly, it's a recipe for disaster.

J Bones.

The beleif within chelsea at the moment is that mourinho is city bound(the players do not like mancinis methods,have heard some bizarre stories) and guardiola is heading to united with ferguson possibly working with him for a season

I would always go with Mourinho to replace fergie - success everywhere he's been, changed Porto and Chelsea and overtaken barca last season - think if he wins the CL with Madrid then he'll leave, maybe in time for fergie retiring, gancy madrid this season for the champs league

Giants14

Klopp the man for me ! He's got a great eye for a player and is a fantastic tactition !

fozzy58

It all depends on what the Glazers are prepared to provide regarding wage structure and transfer kitty. Mourinho would want a lot in order to stamp his authority on the team and it needs an overhaul. Guardiola I think would also want to make several key signings, I would lose confidence in him if he is working with Fergie during this time as a garbled message is not what we need, we need fresh modern ideas not a rehashing of what worked in the 90's. Football has moved on and you need one one boss.

Both of them would demand a very high personal salary and bonuses as well. If the Glazers want to invest some of our profits into the club then definitely one of those two. I also think if Jose or Pep took over they would get rid of all the old guard, nothing worse than trying to install changes only to have people like Giggs, Scholes, Rio, Coaches etc piping up saying that's not how the old Gaffer did it - AVB Chelsea fest.

If not it could be a case of Solskjaer, Moyse or someone like that - basically somebody just grateful to be there and willing to work with what they have. I think this Summer is going to be crazy, total transistion for the club, but whether it's for the better of us fans or the pockets of the Glazers remains to be seen.

Sween

Agree with the comments re Giggs....why would someone with no Management experience be given the job of managing the biggest club in the world? He isnt even a leader on the pitch - its comical!

Guardiola for me. Mourinho is a little bit of a pre-maddona and will insist on a massive budget and not a youth orientated guy.

People tend to forget he bought everything under the sun at at Chelsea to win them a couple of titles ( no different to what city has done the last few years) and it happened at the same time where our transfers did not exactly pan out as planned and where in transition. He also has a tendency to move.

I really think Guardiola given his age and philosophy in terms of bringing youth through the system is the next coach for the club for 10 years. Imagine how we would load up the academy with great talent.

Finally, Mourinho makes too many odd public statements where I am not sure a traditional club like ours will approve off.

Shahram

With Mancini on 7m a year for a good few years yet city wont fire him and incurr around 21m payout. FFP would screw them over next summer.

If Klopp manages to win another trophy this year he'd definitely be top of my list, for some of the following reasons:

Young and hungry
Still improving
Plays good style of football
Spots talent at reasonable prices (Kagawa)
Brings through lots of homegrown youth
Has beaten Bayern to so many trophies with smaller budget

I think the above attributes show that he is almost perfect (barring a little experience) to take United on a journey over a number of years

Gav

Have a question ...when Fergie decided to leave in 2001 (if not mistaken) , Mr.Gill said in an interview that they we're well ahead in discussions with the possible replacement. Any of you know who that might be?

RedMas

To RedMas
I seem to remember that it was Louis Van Gaal who accepted the job and terms before Fergie made a u turn at the start of the 2002 season

snakey

One thing noones mentioned is that players love to play for Klopp which can't be underestimated. I agree that he has a fantastic eye for a buy and is a good tactician. Don't see him at united any time soon but i think he's destined for big things.

15 Oct 2012 22:27:00
One name hasn't been mentioned much and that is Shalke's Popadopalus. Quality young CB and is VERY interested in MUFC. Could be grabbed for less than 15, quality buy.

Strong clever defender who can score good goals from set pieces. Would be very happy to land him.

Don't rate him. Just another butch to come out of greece

15 Oct 2012 20:48:49
I was wondering who you guys would want in the summer (Realistic) Ins & Outs and next seasons team

19-20 MUFC

Well I would think Nani will be sold, bebe Wooton evra Anderson scholes and giggs retired I would like to see Baines gotzë and wanyama come In, I think this is realistic and within our budget.

Caolán.

^^ Why would you want to get rid of Wooton?

Amit-Bombay

Agree to Scholes and Giggs retiring,Nani and Anderson sold if they don't start playing well (Consistancy issues)Would also put Carrick,Rio,Vidic, in there as well (Thinking about their age, and if bids for them were good). In's Would love to have Gotze,Hummels,Isco,Rodriguez or Gaitan. Pique back from Barca would be cool but it will never happen. (TheInvisibleMan)

Ronaldo and Hummels or Sakho. That's all. Out Nani, Bebe, Scholes & Giggs retired

Realistically, I think we will sell Nani & Evra, Macheda, Bebe, Anderson and a number of reserve players as I believe the manager and the club do not believe they are good enough or they would have been given an opportunity already. 35 million in.

Scholes and Giggs will retire.

Realistic ins Hummels, a left back( none of the people we keep mentioning) and a marquee midfielder. In addition we will probably sign a couple of high profile youth prospects i.e. Victor Fisher and the Croatian kid or someone like that. 80 million out.

Shahram

It's not that I want to get rid of Wooton its just I don't feel he will stay here as I think Michael keane is a better player!

Caolán.

15 Oct 2012 08:12:05
I see some Media sources are saying Ashley Cole will be leaving at the end of the season, due to not signing a contract extension. Didn't we supposedly show some interest in him earlier in the summer?

Hey Ed(s) did Manchester United show any proper interest in Ashley Cole or was it just paper talk?

Cheers in advance.

-JakeW {Ed002's Note - There was no interest.}

Despite his talent do we really want this tosspot at OT ?? Dont think Rio will want him there either. Give Buttner his chance i say !

Ed 002 do you suspect there may be interest should Cole not sign a new contract by the end of the year?

Stuey {Ed002's Note - I would very much doubt it.}

Ashley Cole to United, let's hope not!
RedSince68

Please not Cole, only John Terry would be a worse idea
snakey