Manchester United Rumours Archive January 16 2012

16 Jan 2012 20:16:28
Just seen a bit of Lucas Ocampos play, boy does he look a player. Bags of potential, looks like a copy of a faw Ronaldo, 6ft in height, has time to grow, put muscle on and becoome a world beater. I wouldn't be surprised to see him here in the near future along with Rodwell and perhaps Kovavic.

RedDevil19

Hopefully not Rodwell but Pogba! Both around the same age too and could grow old together as reds.

Cooper

Not rodwell, are you mad! Rodwell is a quality with bags of potential, he has time to grow and is miles better than Pogba!

Pogba has more talent in his appendix than Rodwell has. Rodwell has potential to be a good DM/CB, but Pogba will be world-class.

Sydney!

Agree with Sydney for a change :) .. Pogba will be world class, Rodwell has not progressed well imo the last two years hence the reason why he is not a United player already..

I dont see why United dont have a Press Manager who can come on MUTV or release statements about certain players! The gossip about Morrison, Pogba leaving and the players coming in is so much crap. Just put the crap to bed with an honest one single statement and that ends all press cuttings!

I know i have been banging on about rodwell joining for the last few months but i would have to admit pogba (from what i have seen) does have more potential and could boss the midfield for years to come but i believe rodwell will become a quality squad player like park or o'shea, maybe not always starting but still getting plenty of games

dags

Rodwell is a big game player, he has played well against us, played well in the old Uefa Cup and played well consistanly against the likes of us, liverpool, spurs etc.

RedDevil19

16 Jan 2012 19:48:01
French Press saying they have reports that we have put in a bid for Hazard.

Dare we even hope!

I've been hoping for a long time. Doubt it will happen, but like they say, stranger things have happened.

Percy

Hes a quality player and it would be awesome to get him not to mention beat the likes of Arsenal and co to get him.

Arsenal stand very little chance of signing Hazard.

Sydney!

Arsenal will not sign Hazard.
They will probably more likely to go for Podolski

Do we have a source to back up this rumour? It sounds really unlikely, but i hope we have at least made an effort...!

RedDevil19

If we have put in a bid for hazard then i suspect even if it were to be finalised he still wouldn't arrive till summer

dags {Ed002's Note - Manchester United have not made a bid for Eden Hazard.}

Arsenal will never spend more than 20 mill max on a player, so i highly doubt they will come close to getting him.

SSP

16 Jan 2012 18:49:09
I'm hearing from Carrington that Berb is going nowhere and that SAF plans to trigger his 1 yr extension.

Also that the only player that is being mentioned as a likely for us at Carrington amongst staff is Rodwell.

I could see that myself. We know SAF is a fan and it links with what he's doing bringing in younger british players etc.

I know that Syd has contacts there too, I assume you are hearing the same?

Couldn't agree more with your post. Others are saying Berbatov is going to make space for Morrison. Right so we get rid if a proven footballer to play an unproven reserve player.
As for players like Ronaldo, Pique, Sneijder....why would they leave their clubs to play in Manchester? We couldn't afford these guys anyway.
Fergie likes to buy young players and then mould them into top club footballers...so Rodwell etc makes sense.

Just a couple mates that practically live at Carrington, I do not know any of the staff.

Sydney!

Cheers for reply Syd.

16 Jan 2012 18:02:01
What about Samba? He's better thn Evans

What about Gerard Pique ? he is better than Evans

Devil Dust.

Samba is playing well in a team of crap players. He's average to be honest and when he's up front alot of the time during games their trying to get points from, who's left at the back?! Evans is a very good player, people slate him because he had a bad season last year like the new Gibson or Fletcher of a few years ago when they weren't great they were a hate figure almost. Samba won't get any better Evans will that's the difference.

United Till I Die 1987

16 Jan 2012 17:21:33
Agent Emil Danchev has dismissed the Dimitar Berbatov stories in this morning's newspapers. The Bulgarian's representative told Gong.bg that the striker is certain to remain at Old Trafford at least for the rest of the season.

If so, then SAF will trigger the clause which is Contract Extension for 1 year and then we sell him for £8m - £10m in summer.

One way or other, he has to go sooner or later, if he wants regular football, if he wants to warm the bench at old trafford, he is welcome to stay,...we have lots of Benches at Old Trafford.

PS - I dont want to get rid of him, but it feels sad to see him sit on the bench, he is class no doubt in it, but the play and style does`nt suit him.
If he signs for someone else, atleast he will get more playing time.
Good Luck Chap..

16 Jan 2012 16:33:24
Liverpool/United reserves match called off due to frozen pitch.

Sydney!

Was looking forward to watching it too :(

MUTV Must have known, thats why they were showing it for free.

RRED7

16 Jan 2012 14:49:05
Syd or any of the eds if you could shine some light on this I've been told about the return of cr7 to old Trafford. I would be the first one to shoot it down but the storie makes sense wit his own fans booing him the new tax laws in Spain an the fact he doesn't celebrate goals anymore along wit our midfield problems our reluctance to sign someone and fergie could be freeing up space for a Huge signing I know it's very far fetched but so is torres for fifty mill an Carroll for 35 mil

Young irish

He did say that he would like to return to premiership one day but not until he had won silverware for Real, and he seems to be happy coz he always wanted to play for real madrid.
I expect him to stay at Bernabeu for atleast 2 years or so.

RONALDO IS STAYING AT REAL, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS....(people are always going to make s**t about him....silly fans)end off

DC_9

Its okay to dream ............... i do quite often tbh though i would prefer to sign benzema ozil martinez higuain shaqiri javi garcia

If he gets 'silverware', i.e. La Liga this year, maybe the Champions League and he already has the Copa del Rey, then there is always a chance. At 27 he would not command 80 million i don't think. The deal is more likely than you all may think

I read the same today.
i can see the argumentation with the fans and him looking not too happy on the pitch.
As far as I know, the Beckham law was cancelled back in 2009. Since January 1st 2010 there are no more tax reductions for foreigners. but it was reported back then this would only come into effect on contracts signed after that date, therefor does not bother Ronaldo (or Kaka) right now, until his contract comes up for renewal. He won't be looking to extend his contract now, since it was reported back then his salary rises every season up to 500k/week in the final year (on 24% tax!)

Assuming this is all still accurate, I could see Real trying to sell him someday, since he won't want to sign a new contract with a lower net salary, which means an upgrade to approx. 800k/week, just to get him the same net salary.
and they won't want to get too close to the end of his contract (2015?)

Jonny8

I'd be happy to know whether they changed the taxes again to get those 54% tax on existing contracts as well

I still think he will be playing for City in a couple of years. Perhaps Aguero plus cash?

Sydney!

Sydney you have no idea if you think he'd play for City. Ronaldo is no mercenary and plays for the clubs he loves. That is Sporting, us and Real. {Ed007's Note - Did you actually think before you typed that? How can someone have no idea of what they think???? Surely if you think something that in itself is an idea!}

He would never join city, i honestly dont believe that he would join even for a million a week, at this stage money isnt that big of a deal to him

Completely agree with Sydney, if he comes back to the Premier League he'll sign for City I think :( only a matter of time in my opinion, hope to god I'm wrong but don't think I will be.

United Till I Die 1987

Yeah thats clearly the reason we haven't spent on improving our midfield, it wasn't money-related and had nothing to do with picking the right signings - we've just been sat on our hands hoping that Ronaldo decides to leave Madrid for the past few years.

RED_SKY

Ah the naivety.

Sydney!

Wether you think we are dreamers or whatever this storie has surfaced again he has said some things and triggered some imaginations this is a rumour site so lads climb down of the high horse

Young Irish

Once again another post where sydner (mr know it all) is talking absoloute rubbish! and all his lil followers believe fall for it all! ridiculous! ronaldo to city in a couple of years? theres no way ronaldo would go to any other club in england then united... and theres also a very slim chance if any that he would ever wear the red of united! even if united found 80million madrid would laugh why would they sell arguably the best player in the world... madrid will be the number one team in the world within a year they have the best squad in the world and its only a matter of time before jose overtakes barca!

Ronaldo said about a year ago that he was flattered by the apparent interest from City but would not leave Real at the time. He also said the only club he could never see himself playing for would be Barcelona. I love the guy but I have no doubt that if the right offer came along City in the future he would play for them sadly

Woffsta

16 Jan 2012 12:11:05
Daniel De Rossi,
is slow ok
old, maybe
but nothing better than adding some good old steel in midfield and potentially free(transfer fees)
not bad for free i'd say
DJ

Not tht old mate 27, just what united need in my opinion 1 of the best holding midfielders about 10 times the player fletcher and carrick

He will be 29 by the time the new season kicks off.

Sydney!

Wow if he ages 2 years every 6 months I wouldnt take him, lol, he'd be retired by the end of next season

Gav

16 Jan 2012 10:52:19
Ravel Morrison- "I have never 1s turned down a contract off manchester united" @RavelMorrison49

RamoN 19

Sounds to me like his agent is doing some business without his knowledge
Or SAF is playing mind games and trying to achieve something, no clue what.
keep other clubs from contacting Morrison due to ridiculous demands?

Jonny8

His agent would have told the club what Ravel wants and the club would have told his agent whats on offer. His agent could have done the rejecting. It's always the agents that make things difficult as they are driven by money and the more money Ravel gets, the more money his agent will get.

Sydney!

That is very true Syd, and my mate made an interesting point... given his record off the pitch this may be the only contract his agent ever does for him (if it were to go t*ts up) so he will be trying his hardest to get himself as much money as possible.... HATE AGENTS...

oxred

In fact Ravel wouldn't need to do any rejecting, him and his agent would already know the offer United will make as it's the same for everyone. It will be around £16k a week. It's what Pogba was offered and what Cleverley & Welbeck received at that age. So in theory he may not have rejected an offer, but his agent has told the club what he has been offered elsewhere and wants the club to match it.

Sydney!

I really doubt Ravel is doing any business right now.

He tweeted he doesn't have any contract offer on January 11th, and said he hasn't asked anything off United (yet) on January 14th.

From over here (far away) it sounds like he is not looking for any contract or has his heart set on a move away.
Might be wrong, but if he is as (not) smart as many people here make believe, he wouldn't be able to hide it the way he does.

i am still wondering whats going on with his contract, thought it was confirmed to run through 2014, but then why would SAF say he made ridiculous demands?

My conclusion is Ravel's agent is contacting everyone around about the best possible offer, without being instructed so by Ravel.
He is of course, kind of, supposed to do so, considering he is his agent ;-)

Jonny8

SAF said his terms were unrealistic, not sure he said "ridiculous demands" bud. I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Sydney!

His agents job isn't to potentially ruin the best chance he's been given in his life.

TM

I think independent agents should be banned from football worldwide!! Look at the hassles they cause and as for 3rd party ownership. REDICULAS!!!

The only people who should be allowed to reprisent a player are people who are employed by the football governing body of that country in our case the F.A.

All players should pay an anual fee to that governing body in order to pay for this in a similar way to a union.

Keep it simple keep it legit!

Jay

16 Jan 2012 07:16:34
berbatov with probaly go

16 Jan 2012 01:20:30
Hello Ed,
With Gibson gone and Berbatov flying to Germany to have talks with Leverkusen, do you believe we are making space for a signing this window?

YankSAW {Ed007's Note - Yes. Just my opinion though.}

With berbatov possibly on his way to Germany, I have a bad feeling that fergie Is planning on bring demba ba to OT. I personally dont think ba Is Any better than berba. I just hope I'm wrong. Bt in fergie I trust.

Who do you think it will be?

YankSAW

Hazard with Diouf going the other way with £25M.

Im sure Berba' wont leave this winter BUT possibly in the summer. Rodwell has a huge chance of coming to Utd.

And as far as this winter transfer window is concerned, there could be signing but a relatively unknown player as compared to names being mentioned.

And i'm possitive WS wont join. Not now, not in the summer. So, we could be in for a surprise or two. Fingers Crossed :)

Can people stop saying "in fergie we trust" please its so annoying, we trusted him when he signed bebe, kleberson, blomqvist, poborsky who were all big mistakes and to top it off he sold Forlan for 2M, thats right 2M! who went on to become one of the best goalscrores in Spain and theres also Guiseppi Rossi who was flogged because he couldnt get the best out of either of them so make no mistake about it, Fergie has been very hit and miss with transfers unlike wenger who has made millions for Arsenal while still winning the league, Fergie is a good manager but his transfer record stinks

His transfer record is impeccable you plum.

Sydney!

I sense an Arsenal fan above. Yes Fergie has had some awful buys like Taibi, Bellion, Djemba Djemba etc but saying Wengers transfer record is fantastic is just wrong. He has bought some shocking players! Mertesacker, Arshavin, Squillaci and Rosicky are in just the current squad then you can add players like Tavlaridis, Senderos, Jeffers, Stepanovs, Reyes and I could go on.

Rjmanutd

Blomqvist played in the champions league final in 1999 and we know how that ended up? Disastrous signing, massive mistake winning that Champions League! Does make me laugh when people can't think of another example so they just add a name they think people might agree with.

If in 25 years his 4th worst signing is a player who won us the champions league then maybe in Fergie we should trust??

Add to it that Forlan was terrible at United there was a reason we sold him so cheaply.

Hopefully we will sign somebody in the window but nobody on here knows who it is. It would not surprise me if we wait until summer and hope City collapse at the end of this season and we pick up number 20 with the midfield we have now.

Smithy

Sorry I meant Ed who is your best bet on coming in?

YankSAW {Ed007's Note - I wouldn't like to guess that just now, sorry.}

What a ridiculous and idiotic comment. Every manager makes mistakes in the transfer market. For every Bebe, Kleberson and Djemba Djemba there has been a Schmeichal, Irwin, Stam, Solskjaer, Yorke, Van Nistelrooy, Keane, Pallister, Bruce etc.

How can you claim that Wenger never makes a mistake in the transfer market? You obviously forgot about Stepanovs, Reyes, Arshavin, Wreh, Chamakh, Bendtner, Flamini etc.

United fans trust in Fergie due to the fact that he has made the club what it is today and bought unprecedented success.

That's a flawed statement! Evidence being; Cantona, Cole, York, RONALDO, Valencia, Hernandez, Jones, Keane. The list could go on and on and on......

Go back to the arsenal page mate, just because you lost yesterday don't take it out on one of the greatest managers the world's ever seen.

1. Bebe hasn't been given a chance, albeit the fee was high for him
2. You're concentrating on some of the supposed "bad" signings... here's a few of Arsenals... Chamakh, Squillaci, Rosicky, Arshavin, Walcott (don't argue he's dire) and those are just 4... 2 of them have been recent, Walcott was supposed to be developed into a top player but seems Arsene can't develop youth as well as he could anymore
3. Fergies transfer record stinks? Be serious, Ronaldo, Rooney, Valencia, Vidic, Hernandez... need i go on?

Get a grip and enjoy the trip back from wales

=v1=

"....Fergie has been very hit and miss with transfers unlike wenger who has made millions for Arsenal while still winning the league, Fergie is a good manager but his transfer record stinks...."

Hmmm, really?
When did Wenger last win the league? You will have to remind me because it's THAT long ago....
I think anyone will agree that Wenger has bought some stinkers too.
Forlan was sold becuase he couldn't cut it in the EPL. Top player but not at his best in England. Rossi was sold because we had Tevez and Rooney at the time, Rossi was a mini version of those two.
Fergie has bought and developed many more top players than Wenger. Who grooms players to be tricky, lightweight and mardy, and they NEVER win trophies.

Blomqvist a flop, LOL - what a joker, this guy never watched United in and around the 1998 - 2001 period, good footballer - not great but definately not a flop......

Fergie has had 3 times the money wenger had, what about veron and berbatov? thats £60 of deadwood right there, rosicky has been plagued by injuries other than that he would have been world class in that arsenal team, arshavin was wanted by every club in europe when wenger signed him, chamakh was free, what about viera? henry? anelka? they were signed at young ages, wenger puts fergie and everyone else to shame when it comes to signing players

Oi!! Jesper was one of my favourite players. i thought he was a great little worker. He is in the bracket of Good bordering V.good IMO! Just a pity with those knee problems.

Jono

What about Veron and Berbatov? They both have league winners medals. Which is more than can be said for ANY Arsenal player you have bought within the last 7 and a half years. Wenger used to have an eye for talent but his recent signings have been poor.

TK-Red

To the last poster:

Berbatov has not been a flop, He's not really a "United" player but a flop he ain't - Answer me this question?

Who was Joint top goal scorer last year?
a. Fabregas
b. Van Persie
C. Berbatov

Who has won more trophies/medals?
A. fabregas
B. Van Persie
C. Berbatov
oh and won for the scousers
D. Gerrard!! lol

Monk

I cannot believe what I've just read. All those people who have backed Fergie i echo each of your words, as for the absolute doughnut slating his transfer record, wake up mate, or choose another sport to follow!