Manchester United Rumours Archive January 17 2012

17 Jan 2012 20:39:20
Sorry for the copy and paste but apparently this is doing the rounds on a few different websites.


Honda set to solve United's Problems?

****************** are both reporting that Sir Alex Ferguson is looking to make a move for CSKA Moscow midfielder Keisuke Honda.

The transfer offer is reported to be a player-plus-cash deal involving Dimitar Berbatov heading to Russia along with £4 million.

The Japanese superstar has already attracted the attention of a number of Premier League clubs including Liverpool and Arsenal. Arsene Wenger is particularly keen on Honda, describing him as a "genius" following his impressive showing at the 2010 World Cup.

A free-kick specialist and a player who could solve United's lack of creativity in midfield, Honda has continued his fine form that brought him to the world's attention in South Africa – despite a number of injuries over the past year.

With Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernandez keeping Dimitar Berbatov far from Alex Ferguson's first team plans as a partner for Wayne Rooney; the United striker – who was the club's top scorer in the Premier League last season – may want to weigh up his options away from Old Trafford.

Disappointingly for the Bulgarian, he has done well for United whenever called upon this season. Yet, the young striking options available at United may be a signal that Berbatov's time at the club are coming to an end.

United have also reportedly been watching Honda's team-mate Alan Dzagoev, as another option for their midfield problems.


I'd be happy with that personally.

Matt

That sounds very good, i hope it happens. Never a bad thing to have a top class asian player in the ranks, very marketable!

RedDevill19

Still think his injuries are a massive worry.

Sanshine

Wont happen IMO. The deal may well go through but I would suspenct it will be a cash only deal. I think I can only remember a player plus cash deal happening and that was Eto Ibrahimovich. I also think that Berbatov would like to go back to Germany.

I think Honda would be a shrewd buy should we sign him. Very marketable and a good player. Get the checque book out Fergie lol

Jay

Not giving an opinion on this rumour as i can remember a very similar thing being said 12/18 months ago. Am just pointing out etoo/ibra isnt the only player/cash deal ever. Cole/Gillespie(sp) is one of the most successful player/cash deals i can remember and not just for us. Also more recently milner/ireland - i think.

^^ sorry forgot to sign off

Paso

Paso true indeed my mistake mate. Still not a common thing though are they?

Not the most common but definitely still occur. Can imagine it is a bigger thing outside the top tiers, is also lots of loans of players included in transfer deals - wasn't shelvey sent to blackpool as a sweetner in adam deal? or did i just make that one up? lol

Paso

17 Jan 2012 18:57:18
im hearing alot of talk coming out of everton that sir alex is very interested in mario felllani, i hope not one of our best players,man utd would get a gem of a player ,im wondering has anyone heard anytin about it ? garever

Hmm, mario? he's a new one...

With that haircut he deserves to stay in Liverpool

I hope so top top player thinks he would be imense in front of our back four really hope this is true {Ed007's Note - The Everton fans call him Screech.}

I have been saying he would be ideal for us for a long time, young, strong, good in the air, decent passer and gets box to box and scores goals. Dont think he will be cheap though.

As you know I have very good contacts at Everton. Fellini is considered to be the fittest player physically and mentally and yes he does live in Manchester but United have shown no interest which is a shame as he could do a good job. RAINFISHTROMBONE

17 Jan 2012 18:13:12
eds, any truth to the maicon rumours? personally i think he is over-rated and would be a bad purchase. {Ed002's Note - Inter will use him to try and lure Tevez from Manchester City if they can. If not expect Malaga, Real Madrid and PSG to show an interest. I don't have any confirmation of interest from MU.}

I bet his agent is just saying united are interested so A) his price goes up or B) man city will do everything they can to sign him so we don't sing him, even if it means being in the tevez deal...?

17 Jan 2012 16:39:44
If Berbatov is sold do you think we'll see Pogba and Morrison offered new contracts as the wage bill will have been cut?

It has nothing to do with the wage bill - we quite rightly do not pander to youth players.

RedDevil19

17 Jan 2012 11:04:44
Out of curiosity, who would we prefer, Shaqiri, Ocampos, Vadillo or Hazard? Bear in mind the prices that they come at..?

Id probably want Hazard, but Shaqiri would be a good bet.

RedDevil19

Hazards the better player but the most expensive and has openly said he want's to play for Real Madrid, so how long would he be with us for and would he want to jump ship to spain at the first chance? Thats why i'd go for Shaqiri as he's better value for money and is more likely to stick around long term.

Shappy

I'd much prefer Shaqiri his value is far less than Hazards. I agree with what "Shappy" is saying about Hazard jumping ship for Spain.

Shaqiri more than impressed me in the CL. He seems like a versatile midfield player. I heard figures being thrown around of him only costing £15 million, great price.
Considering Liverpool £18 million for Downing.

Strider98

Shaqiri and Ocampos for me. I'd play Shaqiri in the centre though, he's a lump.

Sanshine

If we get 5 or 6 good years out of him then thats good surely? Sign him for around 25 million and sell him for what, 60? Thats good resale value and we'll have got some good years out of him.

RedDevil19

Well in the summer Nani was up for sale but he chose to stay which to me surgest Sir Alex is open to or maybe wants to move him on. What if we sold Nani? we'd get at least 25m for him but with Park likely to go either this summer or next and Giggs not able to play as a winger properly anymore this would just leave us with Valencia and Young, we'd need two wingers to come in so which two would you go for? and to make it interesting they have to cost less than 30m combined as lets face it were not flush atm.

My choices would be Xherdan Shaqiri and Kevin De Bruyne,
both 20yo and our exciting wingers/forwards, both can play on the left on the right or through the centre and both look to create chances more than hold onto the ball for too long.

So which two would you sign?

Shappy

"RedDevil19"

I don't think we'd get 5/6 years out of him, i think we'd get 3/4 tops, also with new FFP rules coming in then it could have a knock on effect to transfer fees(Clubs can't spend if they don't earn it), then add into that that he'd have a year or two left on his contract at that time then we would be lucky to get more than we paid for him. So we would sign him for a huge fee, pay him a huge wage, help him develope as a player then just as he hits his peak he'd be off to madrid for little more than we paid for him and ripping apart our team which would have to be rebuilt due to the departure of such a player ala what happened with Ronaldo apart from Hazard would be with us for less time and cost us more.

Shappy

Say Shaqiri is a huge success though, whose to say he won't move to Spain? Or even someone like Bayern, he says that he highly rates the Bundesliga.. in which case we'd possibly lose him anyway.

RedDevil19

I agree. I dont want players that use United as a stepping stone. Manchester United should be where they want to finish and if not they can do one!

Woffsta

True but thats the same for any player, But Shaqiri has never said he wants to play for a certain club or in a certain league he said he thinks the prem and the Bundesliga are his favourite leagues. Where as Hazard has always maintained that Madrid is his dream club and he wants to play there. Also there is a 15m price differance in the fees for them two at least then the fact that Hazard would be on far higher wages it just doesn't look like a deal that makes much sense to me. But thats just my opinion.

Shappy

I'm sorry just saw someone say Nani's worth 25mil? Definitely not. Torres - £50m, Carroll - £35m. Realistically speaking i can't see Nani going anywhere, he's too intergrated with our squad, everyone seems to get on with him and he knows he's a big part of a great club so why would he leave?

Shaqiri - Cheaper, better team player and seems to have a good attitude. Also a left footed wideman would give another option. Hazard's supposedly has some kind of attitude problems, i can see him being a bit arrogant, and find it hard to settle all the while Nani is around.

Ozwald

De Bruyne is pretty much a nailed on signing for Chelsea, plus he's way too lightweight in my books.

I still think if we could get someone of quality in, even if they want to go to madrid in set number of years it would be silly to just coast along and keep looking untill we find someone from Manchester who fits that bill.

Sanshine

I am a big fan Shaqiri amd think he could do a great job for us but here is one from the left field what about Adam Johnson? I know hes at City but a natural left footed winger and doesnt always play but could be ideal replacement for Giggs?

Funnily enough, I thought Adam Johnson to! He fits in with the young english talent SAF is looking to bring in and had a good football education with Middlesborough academy. With a bit of coaching and being at the club with Giggsy to learn from either through Giggs staying on as a player for 1 more year or as a coach which hopefully he will go on to do then Johnson could go on and be an important player with us and England! Question is could we get him from Sh@*$y? Would be a tricky deal to tie up!

Ports

Hows about bringing in Shaqiri for the left and Honda for the middle? Not that expensive. I'd be happy with that

Gav

I agree with Gav, Shaqiri & Honda would be perfect in both the terms- Creativity & Economical..!

IBleedBlue

17 Jan 2012 09:16:21
I can't even guess on transfers for this window...was excited by possible Honda deal,I personally think him operating in centre would work well for us.However alot of people talking about schneider etc lol would be funny if we took schneider maybe we can get his best mate too nagatomo at left back :D

I'm sorry, was going to let it go but he name has been mentioned so many times on here now please can we get it correct - S N E I J D E R!
Or is schneider a new player I have not heard of?

Damn, theres me thinking we were after some new german wonderkid ;p

Nagatomo is developing into a top class LWB at Inter.

Ozwald