Manchester United Rumours Archive July 17 2012

17 Jul 2012 21:56:10
ibrahimovic signing for psg will set of a few transfers now expect berbatov to go to ac Milan and united to get lewandowski ad he's already told Dortmund he want to go united

Craigy

17 Jul 2012 19:14:04
Manchester United FC have cut all interests in Lucas Moura after €38m bid was rejected,they say it was their last bid they made for Moura......,Oooh thank you we can now concentrate on real CMs like Eriksen and Moutinho for the €38 m we were ready to pay for Moura can buy 2 göod players for us like 1) Christian Eriksen(£20m).....,(2) Oviedo/Izzaguire (£9m).....What do you think Ed...?

With respect, good players dont cut it, world class players do. Its the difference from 1st and 2nd place.

Not going to happen. think about it kagawa and moura for the majority of the season will bring success. fergie wants to win the bpl not finsh second or below

If we did bid 38m and walked away we will not buy anyone else of quality IMO

Pardoe

Pardoe - I don't think they would actually.

Uniteds biggest weakness last season was central midfield. We can attack, we can defend, but any decent midfield can dominate us easily. We need someone who can reverse that.

I was always against Modric as he offers sod all in winning back the ball, but he'd still help us dominate simply by keeping and controlling possesion. What we really need though is someone who can pass and has the technical skill and composure to help keep the ball, but can also make the tackles and interceptions to win back the ball.

Martinez or Moutinho would be ideal, alternatively Cabaye, Fellaini (a little lighter on the technical side, but adds aerial strength) or Strootman (has been overhyped, but he'd still improve us, albeit not as much as the others).

Thorne

If we buy this guy, we don't need anyone else Quality (maybe a cheap LB)

Wouldnt get eriksen for that cheap either

17 Jul 2012 18:19:50
Sao Paulo director of football Adalberto Baptist has confirmed they rejected another offer of 38 million euros from MUFC for Lucas Moura. The club didn't give any value in which MUFC needed to meet to secure his services.

So then, Lucas Moura stories are true. 2 bids rejected. Will Sir Alex go one further and get his man?

30 million is a lot for a Brazillian teenager, I don't know much of him so I couldn't tell you if he's worth it or not.

Connor.

I read the full article in Globo Esporte and there was not a single source.

also they are the exact words used to dismiss inters bid as well
jred

Quick question... Why is everything in Euros, when we don't use them and nor do Brazil. Seems strange that quotes are in that currency.

Sambo {Ed007's Note - The South American sides have been dealing in euros recently due to (a) much of their business being done in the Eurozone and (b) issues with the US$ which was used traditionally as the currency of choice - and still is for many transactions.}

He'll end up in Italy with some dodgy part ownership thing going on for half the price

Dustbin

Tell them to stuff it. Nowhere near a 40million euro player. When was the last time a South American settled into this country and played to potential. Stupid gamble.....if true.

We are wasting time on this deal. Why not pull out and bring Eriksen. The guy wants to come. IMO I think he can do a good job in our midfield. That's where we need to tighten up. If we don't, Yaya will destroy us again.

Watch the videos on you tube, look at the spanish debate about the player on you time. This player looks better than Ronaldo at 19. He is imply awesome. Given the fact the Euro is weak versus the pound at the moment we should do what we can. The problem is they don't really want to sell.

If your wondering how much he is worth Youtube him. Im impressed with him (I know they are highlights from his good games) but he is fast, nimble on his feet, and is very strong with both feet. I completely agree that 38Mill is a bit steep, but risks need to be taken in a business and lets face it MUFC is a business! He could be the next Ronaldo, then again he could be the next Kléberson too!

I could agree with moura at 30 or 32m, but at 40m u have to think there are better alternatives. I can understand if we are looking for someone to challenge eventually for the ballon d'or, but 40m can buy someone more experienced that wouldnt be too far off the very top level already. An example for would be aguero i suppose. bought for 45m, and now is worth 50+
Bale?

All u people on this site say Brazilian as if brazilians no matter who they are would never make it in the prem tht just stupid wa does it matter where some one is from

Dio

Why would it be in euro's? brazil is not in europe so would not use euro's {Ed007's Note - RTFP.}

We wont be getting Lucas if much more is needed, we were in for Pato before Milan got him but the price was too high for someone of his age, Fergie said this publicly years back. Sao Paulo want to get the most they can for him, and Lucas gets around 20% of any fee paid for him, in August this will rise to around 30%, Fergie and Gill want the deal done this week, Sao Paulo will be wanting to sell before Lucas' cut of the fee rises to avoid losing money. I think this is the Hazard money, and I doubt we have much more too spend on top of this, we have just signed Kagawa, so a central rather than attacking midfielder should be our first priority now.

Dio, name me one Brazilian who has been successful in the premiership and I'll name you ten who've flopped.

Andrew B

Juniniho was a good player in prem !!

sparkyred

Andrew b - Juninho Paulista. Now let's hear the 10

Youtube Jermaine Pennant he looks pretty good too
Invisible STuey

This could be the 10:
Jo, Robinho, Branco, Roque Junior, Baptista, Kleberson, Anderson, Gilberto, Afonso Alves, Jardel

Steffen

I love this name 1 brazilian who has played well in the prem league the best brazilian that has played in the league was Robinho no Carlos,Ronaldo,Kaka,Ronaldonho none of the big names want to sign for a prem league club get the same offers from Spainish and Italian clubs with the big teams the good locations and the better weather forget the clubs where would you rather live Manchester or Madrid?? Lucas looks good on youtube but so does nani and we all know he can go missing cant be expected to pay 40m but then again still cheaper than Carroll {Ed001's Note - Juninho, Emerson Thome.}

17 Jul 2012 17:02:45
why is rooney not mentioned in the pre-season tour, i can take a cheeky guess thinking he might be sold outside england and new striker and mid fielder might be brought in.----- anything is possible in football

*Reddy {Ed007's Note - Or he could be on an extended holiday because he was at the Euros.}

Really? i suppose Young Jones and Welbeck are also being sold as they aren't there either.

Shappy

Why do people come out wit the same bull every season about Rooney, Rooney will be going nowhere! obviously anyone playing at Euros wont be playing on this tour!!

By your theory all the players who aren't on tour are being sold, we may be in trouble! "/

TM

Man Utd are playing Cork City July 25th he could be involved in that

Hmmm Im not sure whether to believe Ed007 or Reddy on this one haha!

Gav

Extended break coz of euro's

Lol added 2+2 and got 456, good effort.

GDS

With off field problems. Sale of Rooney would have massive implications on the pitch and more important financially . Glazers have too much riding on the image and profitability to let that happen. Crazy notions should be thought and not said MANDY

All players who played in the euros are joining up second leg of the tour as to get a decent rest



Dwright

I hope your right about Young Shappy! It'd be nice to get our money back on him and get someone more consistant!
(maybe a bit bold for a newish poster)

Patzi

Patzi, are you crazy? Young had a very consistent and great first season with us! Nani is the inconsistent one! he has a greatgame every 10 games, and the other he's anonymus in!
as for you Reddy, you clearly need to start reading up on United as you don't have a clue what is going on, next you'll think Heskey has signed for us!

Jake

Using the IP address, Ed07 can you please find the nearest asylum for Reddy to be admitted to immediately? I'm afraid he might be in danger of hurting himself or others, or just being dumb....thanks. -KG

Did Rooney actually play football at the Euros? Plus Sir Alex has a long memory, He remembers Rooneys I want to leave! (or pay me more) bribe last year.

"Did Rooney actually play football at the Euros? Plus Sir Alex has a long memory, He remembers Rooneys I want to leave! (or pay me more) bribe last year"

LOL 1) yes he did 2) certainly played more than Jones who is also 'rested' from the tour 3) the club knew about Rooney's 'I want to leave bribe' before giving him his massive new contract, so why would SAF remember that now rather than taking action at the time?

Strange noname, I think you're just looking for negativity TBH! Perhaps not a United fan?

Gav

17 Jul 2012 16:48:10
If the rumours are true about a €38m bid rejected for Lucas Moura as Sao Paulo are holding out for €40m then it shows how much Fergie rates this lad. If this is true it seems we will get our man...

However, I personally can't see this story being true and don't believe we are in for him at all tbh...and certainly not at the prices being quoted.

MPez

I doubt the difference would only be 2m. What difference would 2m make to them?

G.A.G.U.S

There is no chance United will bid 40mil Euro on a 19 yr, that is unproven in the EPL. This is pure bs that the press in portugal and brazil always conjure up, in order to raise the ACTUAL price. I wouldnt hold my breath on this 1.

Patzi

G.A.G.U.S - are you having a laugh!?!?

What difference does £2million make!? Ask anyone that question and see what the response is. Rich or poor £2million means a lot to people

Where did I mention what 2m meant to someone like me? 2m is not that much when you could already be getting 38m is it? Why would they want an extra 2m? Are you having a laugh?

G.A.G.U.S

G.A.G.U.S

I get what you mean but it might be 2m to the mininum price the brazilian club want to sell for. For example they may have wanted 45m euros or more but would exept 40m as a minimum. Clubs will always have a certain amount of flexibility for negotiation but the minimum will almost definately be set in stone, especially when in such a strong position as Sao Paulo, so 2m can make a big diffence.

Red Joe

18 Jul 2012 01:16:06
Sao Paulo have already confirmed they had rejected a 26m offer from ourselves

Ed002, can you confirm a second bid? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I'll check this evening Syd to see if I can find out any detail.}

Missing the point again G.A.G.U.S. £2mill is a lot to a football club. They are a business and it may be the difference of recruiting an extra player. Me, you, rich person, wealthy football club. £2million is a lot

Thanks Ed, I do appreciate it.

Sydney!

17 Jul 2012 16:05:58
Just a thought on Lucas Moura, Man Utd delegation has been sent over. Inter Milan have dropped out of the running due to the price, the president of the club has said man utd will have to cough up more if they want to sign him. Obv this means a bid has been made, fergie has not mentioned anything about Moura in interviews. He has stated that they are looking into one or two more signings, normally if Man Utd have no interest in a player they come out and say it. I'm just saying that there is more than a big chance he will signed, I know Ed will dissagree saying about the ownership rights but I believe Moura will be signed and we may possibly lose Nani...

Very interesting article today about the significance of dates coming up in terms of hikes to Moura's salary and also the percentages his family will get of any deal which seems to be pushing up the overall price. I think August 1 was the key date so maybe something will happen soon.

I think Sao Paolo would be willing to sell at the price quoted, but they have until August 1st to sell before the player gains an additional 10% of his ownership. They'll play hardball until July 31st.....

Inter president has said today inter are still trying to sign him
jred

Yes but it's all just paper talk?

Modric had 'signed' for United weeks ago according to papers, so I wouldn't believe all you read about Moura just yet

Gav

`Fergie has sent the scout that convinced Chicharito to join! He could be doing negotiations and getting back to SAF.. You dont have to be there to be ongoing in negotiations, he will be focusing on pre-season is my guess.
-Newton Heath 1878

17 Jul 2012 15:51:49
Having seen Sir Alex's recent press confrence i think a few things have been made clear. First off that he very much see's Evra as a very important mamber of our team.

" Patrice, in the last five years has played an average of 45-50 games. It's phenomenal. I don't know if anybody else has achieved that. He's still a fit lad and has the same drive and ambition. He's a fighter. "

This to me shows how highly Sir Alex thinks of Evra. This is why IMO i don't see us signing a first choice LB. I say first choice as i could see us signing someone to be Evra's understudy, but with Fabio Blackett and possibly Brady i could understand if we didn't bring one in. Bearing in mind that Evans and Giggs can do a job at LB as well.

This is the reason i doubt someone like Baines will join as i just can't see him being happy to be Evra's understudy at the age of 27. And as much as i'd like to see Evra replaced in our team, it appears that Sir Alex still rates him very highly. So IMO the only way we'll see a LB come in this summer is if Brady and Blackett show that they aren't upto being Evra's understudy and then i feel we'll sign someone who's talented with potential to become better but someone who won't demand a starting place. Players like Bryan Oviedo or Martin Olsson would be good shouts i think.

Shappy

This probably will be Evra's last season though, Baines would not be an instant replacement, he'd have a season to bed himself in - so I don't see the problem with Baines coming in. Im sure he'd be happy to wait if he knew he'd be first choice next year.

RedDevil19

"it appears that Sir Alex still rates him very highly"

Appears being the operative word. Do you believe everything our manager says? Do you not think his interviews are cleverly planned and thought out? Do you think he would diss Evra to the public? Here's a biggy, if you, I and the neighbours cat can see Evra's flaws, are you saying our manager can't? Isn't that pretty insulting? I have no doubt a LB will be signed just like I was saying yesterday, I also believe Baines will be our number one LB next season with Evra as his understudy (unless he is sold of course), but I think that will be the summer of 2013. We will know soon enough I guess.

I think the interview was a message to Moyes and Kenright saying we have Evra, we have Fabio, Blackett & Brady at the club so we will not be held to ransom over Baines.

Sydney!

I don't think he would he'll be approaching 29 at the start of next season. I just don't see us signing Baines unless Evra was leaving which i just don't see happening.

Shappy

He didn't have to mention Evra at all but he did. Maybe he is send subliminal messages out and only you are picking up on them Syd mate.

I know Sir Alex won't knock a player in the press as that would be shocking man management but he didn't need to publicly back Evra either.

I'm sure he has some idea what he wants to say in these things but considering he is asked questions i don't think they can be planned out quite as well as you think. Unless Sir Alex knows what questions he is gonna be asked by independant members of the press.

It seems you are a lost cause though Syd mate, I agree that we MAY sign a LB but you seem so hopeless lost in the idea that you can't see any circumstance that we won't sign one. You say you have no doubt, but then you must have been told by someone important at the club that it's a done deal otherwise there is always a chance that it won't happen. The reason you say you have no doubt is because you want it so badly that you've convinced yourself it will happen. You come across like a paranoid person who is so convinced someone is out to get him your seeing murders on every corner.

You seem unable to look at this situation without bias because you WANT a new LB. Everything said or done by the club or anyone connected with the club seem to be saying that we are signing Baines. This just isn't the case.

If your so sure would you put all the money you have on Baines being a United player by september 1st?

Shappy

I understand your point Shappy and actually I'm undecided on the LB issue. I have thought all along that Baines is coming in with Evra being phased out over the season - makes sense to me - but I wouldn't be amazed if we didn't sign a LB at all, given SAF's stubborness and admiration for Evra

However 2 points directly related to the SAF quote on Evra:
1. He wouldn't diss Evra (as Syd said) or say he was looking for a replacement even if he is, would he?
2. To me that statement just says "he's still a fit lad and has the same drive and ambition. he's a fighter". That doesn't say to me that Evra will be our first choice LB next season. SAF could have been very clear on that if he wanted too, given this opportunity

Gav

Shaps, we will know soon enough mate. You have got to love our differences of opinions, it makes the site more interesting and at least you do not get all moody because my opinion is different to yours like others on this site ;)

Sydney!

Paranoid? No I just have immense trust in Sir Alex and I trust his expertise in management. If me, you, jred and everyone else can see Evra's flaws, then why do you think our manager can't?

I am not certain Baines with be signed, but I am certain a LB will be signed. Perhaps I was a little hasty with my last post which hasn't been posted yet.

Sydney!

Oh and I guess you didn't know the manager has a list of the questions being asked beforehand. He even gets to pick which journalists get to ask him the questions. If a journalist asks a rogue question the question will be intercepted by one of the club's legal reps. Just like all of the IPO questions have been intercepted and blocked. I guess you learn something new every day. The press conferences and interviews especially are scripted. What the manager says in interviews will be carefully planned by him and I genuinely believe the quotes today were for the Everton officials. It happens all of the time in football and our manager is the king at this. Jose isn't too bad either.

Sydney!

Syd mate I like the fact that everyone has different opinions otherwise it'd be very boring. Like you said we'll find out who's right soon enough.

Gav, of course Sir Alex wouldn't diss Evra as that would be poor man management. On the other side he can't say that anyone is garenteed a place as thats not the name of the game. But this backing from the boss shows how highly he thinks of Evra.

Shappy

17 Jul 2012 13:41:38
Berbatov to AC Milan

Mega Amazing Man

If this is true then good luck to Berbatov. I think he is an absolutely brilliant player and it is a shame that for whatever reason it just didn't work out at Utd.

I wish him well and think that he will shine for AC Milan.

Didn't work out? He was top scorer season before last!
Uniteds style is changing..... Berbs is a top pro good luck to the geezer
Q

Mega Amazing Man?! Lol!

DodgyBanter

I do think Berba will leave but can't personally see him going to AC. Could be wrong though. Good luck to him wherever he ends up

Gav

17 Jul 2012 13:52:55
When is the game on today and where can I watch thanks in advance

Coombesy

It's tomorrow at 4pm UK time

fearny

It's tomorrow if I'm not mistaken, KO at 19:00 BST..

Don't think we can post links of where to watch? But most of us are fine it's on MUTV and MUTV Online

TM {Ed007's Note - I can't recommend any sites but I am happy to post any that are sent in.}

It's tomorrow, 8pm, MUTV.

GDS

It not on today, tomorrow at 7 mutv or first row sports

phil

It is tomorrow.. 20:00 local time.

Steffen

Its on tomorrow i think mate, and firstrowsports :)

tarrant77

Well there you have it its on at 4 7 and 8 so ya shouldnt miss it no matter what !

Devil Dust.

Thanks everybody and ED

Coombesy {Ed007's Note - No probs mate.}

It tomorrow half six on mutv

Coombesy where you from?

Hiya coombesy
Its on tomorrow evening at 6:45 on MUTV .
fozzy58

Friendly Match


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KO 00:00
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Its 2mro night prob get it from myp2p..
Sorry if this is spam or not allowed..
Could also pay for MUFC Tv but nobody is that stupid :)
- Newton Heath 1878

I'm from Salford mate

Coombesy

17 Jul 2012 12:34:45
Ed07.... what is Victor Wanyama like....

seen the odd rumour that city, liverpool, newcastle and Juv are interested in him......

how many mid fielders do juv need ??? {Ed007's Note - Wanyama is an absolutely fantastic player. I know I am biased but I fully expect him to go on and become one of the best DMs in the world and he is also very comfortable at CB. I honestly rate him higher than M'Vila and thought Man Utd had done the best piece of business last summer in signing Phil Jones until I saw Wanyama playing and he only cost £900k. He seems to have everything, strong, quick, good in the tackle, good in the air and very rarely wastes a pass. If any EPL team had signed him last summer the whole of England and big European clubs would be looking at him this year. All the talk of any interest seems to be coming from his agent though and CFC are not keen to sell him, but money talks up here.}

Thanks ed07,i knew that you would know.... need to get fergie to get him and izzy then... how much would you say for the 2 of them?

oxred (forgot to sign off earlier) {Ed007's Note - I would say £6/7 million for Izaguirre and I would be disappointed if we didn't get £8 -10 million for Wanyama, he really is that good and will only get better.}

Wow, I've never seen him play but now I really want United to sign him just based on that glowing endorsement by Ed007 haha! I'm not being sarcy either : )

Cheers for the info. Ed I will be looking out to watch him in future. I'm guessing whoever does manage to bag him will have a right deal on their hands but then Celtic will stand to make a huge profit too (although I'm sure they'd like to keep him)

Gav {Ed007's Note - Definitely Gav, we won't keep him for long up here and he is what English people call 'a beast' of a player.}

I reacon a joint bid of around 6m and a few deepfried mars bars should seal the deal. 4m for Izzy and 2m for Wanyama. I think Bond you need to be sensible with prices now that the SPL is only a one team competition and will be for a few years at least. This will be the end of scottish football....it seems strange saying that as i feel i may have missed the boat by a few years with that comment. lol.

Shappy {Ed007's Note - Well if Ki who can hardly get in our team is worth £7 million what price two important players? Stop being a snob Shappy, if Man Utd bought Wanyama for £8-10 million from the Belgian/French/Swiss league you would be getting a chubby on about how good the Utd scouts were doing etc. Or would you rather sign another Bebe? For his fee you could have bought Izaguirre, Wanyama and Kayal and still had plentychange back. And all three of them would have improved Utd's squad last season.}

17 Jul 2012 11:54:33
Hi guys a few points hear,
Sean miginty has gone on loan to Oxford , good luck to him.
The boss has said Robbie Brady and Jessie Lingard will play the first game on tour. SAF has also said that Robbie Brady will play left back. Can he play there?
Finally inter Milan have said they have been priced out of a deal, so this must mean we are the front runners and really the only side with a strong interest although reports are saying we need to up our offer to 34 million from 30.

Caolán.

If Sean miginty has gone on loan to the U's might have to pop down to the Kassam to take a look at some point....

Oxred

I saw this about moura's price aswell but then there are other reports today saying they are holding out for 37 million euros which I THINK is about 29 and a half mill GBP

Actually Sean miginty may be included for tonights game v West Ham..... will have to see how he does...

oxred

17 Jul 2012 11:12:49
The Moura rumours are puzzling... We just don't need another winger, and CAM is now covered by Kagawa and Cleverly (+Rooney).

Fergie isnt stupid. Either it doesnt make sense because its not true, or he knows something we dont - like contract talks with Nani have broken down and he will leave this or next summer....?

The thing with Lucas is that he is one of those players Fergie feels he cannot afford to miss out on! The same as Rooney and Jones! Fergie was prepared to wait another year for Rooney but then Newcastle started showing an interest so he had to step in. It's te same with Lucas! Ideally Fergie would like to wait a year or 2 but the interest from Inter has forced his hand

Or he thinks he has spotted another ronaldo quality player and wants to bring him in before the price tag gets any higher and we cant compete with other clubs for his signature!

tarrant77

I believe Lucas would play a free role similar to the one Ronaldo enjoyed. When Ronaldo was at OT, the movement across the midfield was tremendous (and I am talking of the movement without the ball). This was because he was able to occupy any position and our other wingers were able to switch to fill gaps and expose other sides of the pitch. i think this would be the same gameplan to bring the title back (should Lucas actually arrive).

It could OBVIOUSLY come to nothing. But I would love to see Lucas join!

MDJ

Tarrant77 hits the nail on the head. Remember back when some established "faces" and pundits labelled Ronaldo as nothing more than a show-pony? He rammed that down their throats and every self-opinionated critic with his progress. He started off as an exceptional talent first though. Perhaps SAF sees the same kind of promise?

I've seen loads of posts on here running Moura down and wanting Utd to sign admittedly good players but perhaps don't have the potential to reach the very top level i.e. Messi, Ronaldo, Eto, Zidane...well the very best.

Utd have a long history of being a fluid and exciting team to watch. Functional was last year. City need not buy anyone but will be stronger and i think the club knows that. Kagawa is a brilliant signing. If he cost 3 times the £12m then i put my house on it being a bargain if he goes out and does his thing for the club on the pitch.

Do i know whether Moura will sign? Of course i don't, but that only lots me in the same boat everyone else is in.

Do i want him to sign? Lets put it this way - if he's interested SAF then he must have something. Yes i know Bebe, Djemba-Djemba, Prunier, et al but i also remember Cantona, RvN, and Ronaldo. When they played i watched, together with everyone else.

Winning its as much about doing it in style as it is about the result with Utd. History and responsibility. The day you forget is when you turn into Liverpool. Who'd have thunk it 20 years ago?

This kid has the potential to be the worlds best, fergie knows it, he also knows we could only get 4 to 5 years before real or barca or psg or city come calling with 100mil cash in then find another, just think how malcom glazier looked so much like doctor evil when fergie told him you'll quadrupple your money on this boy

17 Jul 2012 09:36:06
so munich have confirmed they will not be buying martinez as "bilbao have made it clear it will cost 40 mill euro"
so does this mean martinez is available for 40mill euro and do people think his worth it?
jred {Ed002's Note - If he ends up in Manchester I would not be surprised. Heed the words.}

Blue or Red 002?

Cban {Ed002's Note - Manchester United of course famously wore blue when winning the European Cup. Blue.}

Either pay Bilbao the 40 mil or make Jones our much needed steel in the midfield. Moura may be great, but we have Kagawa, Cleverley, Young, Nani, Valencia, and even Rooney to some extent at his position. Also i read somewhere that Subotic may be looking to move to the PL. Worth the money IMO

Sparty On

He is worth every penny. I'd pay it myself if I had the money.

RedDevil19

I will say that if Martinez goes to City I'll be gutted but not surprised. Still hoping he is the player we bring in this summer though.

Rjmanutd

Can't say I'm very familiar with the player but I read on this forum how people rate him.

If he's as good at what he does as everyone says then IMO we should be spending 40 million euros on him because a top quality player in that position is what we are lacking (and will be even more so once Scholes retires).

We have some good midfielders but they are all a bit lightweight.

Andrew B

He is well worth the money and that is the type of player we should be buying he's exactly what we need in midfield he should be the priority

Jamal Sanchez

You don't have to have a ball winner in midfield if everyone works hard. having a skillful midfield that can win the ball back and more to the point KEEP THE BALL ie Barcelona is what is needed. Modric tackles back, as does Moura, Scholes is better than you think, he usually does a dodgey tackle when needed hmmm.

Ok Ed-en002. Chelsea it is then ;)

TK-Red

Ed02... very cryptic.... so you see him going to city then?

any possibility that we could match the signing on fee and he would take less wages to play for united?

oxred {Ed002's Note - Manchester City are probably looking to replace Nigel De Jong in the summer and Javi Garcia and Javi Martinez were the two players they are looking at. I was told a while back that Inter Milan may make a bid for Javi if they decide not to take Juraj Kucka from co-owners Genoa. I am not convinced that Bilboa will want to sell the player any time soon, and if they do they will want 40M euro with Barcelona and Real Madrid being possible destinations. Garcia has signed a new deal at Benfica so I imagine Martinez will become a serious target for Manchester City who may also face interest from Manchester United. I think Manchester City would have the edge.}

Martinez is worth every penny our midfield has been crying out for a player like him.

sparkyred

"He is well worth the money" - He looks a very good player but you are talking about the fee like its a baargain. When has any central midfielder gone for a fee anything like that? I can only think of Veron for £28m. He was the best young player in Italy probably at that time and looked ideal also. Im not saying Martinez would be a flop, I think he is a superb player when I have seen him but, that is a LOT of money!
Invisible STuey

I hope Martinez signs for us but fear he will be playing for City next season. He is allegedly one of City's targets.

Martinez and Muniain would make is competitive again

Red Man

Thanks Ed02... as always

will have to wait and see then... just think that if he came in he would add the quality and steel that we crave in the middle and add another option at cb if needed.....

Oxred

"You don't have to have a ball winner in midfield if everyone works hard. having a skillful midfield that can win the ball back and more to the point KEEP THE BALL ie Barcelona is what is needed. Modric tackles back, as does Moura, Scholes is better than you think, he usually does a dodgey tackle when needed hmmm"

Noname - I think the massive bonus with Martinez is that he is good in possession - a good passer - AS WELL AS being a great defender. I agree that we don't need an out and out DM but if there is one player who can perform both roles at once it is this guy!

Not many CM's are worth 40m Euro but the above may be the reason why he is.

Only time will tell of course, I can't see him coming to United unfortunately

Gav

Oxred, Ed002,

Do you think De Gea would be a big factor in Martinez choosing us if we had the opportunity?

I'm hoping they are close friends and hopefully De Gea will be in his earhole during the Olympics, does anyone know if Spain have any Olympic matches at Old Trafford?

Hopefully they do and we can get in his ear then as well, alththough I must say I am not suggesting we tap him up :

Ports {Ed002's Note - I don't think he would be.}

17 Jul 2012 01:37:35
Reports that zenit have bid for eriksen and are in talks.

Yet another player targeted and watched by united goes slipping from our fingers.

Fergies good old slow way when coming to transfers.

LUHG

LUHG - you are such a negative Nancy.

Firstly - this is all media guesswork.
Secondly - Fergie is hardly slow when it comes to buying someone he actually wants (consider Kagawa and Powell).


I've yet to see a post of yours where you're not just moaning, dear god...

Joe

But look at all the comments on the Uniteds page - look at Uniteds own website page about who they have been interested in :
All they wanted was Modric, and United have not made one bid? By the time they buy Lucas Moura they would have spent £34M as Daily Mail suggests - enough to clinch Modric.

We are a second rate team these days and fergie keeps telling us there is no value! While citeh Real and Barca keep buying all the best players.
The lies will go on and on and the fans are being taken for a ride.

If the manager wanted Eriksen he would have signed him by now. Our primary target is Modric, until Modric goes to Madrid he will continue to be our target. When Modric goes to RM we will then move onto the next target. United wouldn't be pushing for Modric if there was no hope in signing him. Eriksen will not join Zenit.

Sydney!

I don't think we are going to buy any midfielder we have kagawa,powell and scholes.sec we don't have money any more to compete with big teams now days.all this lucas,eriksen are paper talk. i can see us buying a left back that's all.its disappointing to see how madrid and barcelona,chelsea,juventus and munich get stronger and we keeping getting weaker every year.i guess we have to get used to this. i hate glazer's family so much.

ferdcoast

Modric isn't good enough anyway not at that price goes missing in big games if we paid 20 mill I feei we r being mugged don't know anything a out this moura ps quite a few spurs fans I met don't rate I'm either ie modric sed they would drive him to it themselves diehard74

According to his agent this morning he is staying at Ajax for another season.

Simmo

Whos' the next target Syd? Do you not suspect and worry that if Modric (when Modric) joins Madrid, that Fergie just comes out with the usual tripe about the right player not being available? Why are you not concerned, Syd? We looked appalling at times last season, and thus far we've done little to address the main problems.

RED_SKY

Eriksen said he wont move from ajax until either united or barca bid for him

R_S, I am not worried as we will strengthen and we will be better next season. I heard Moutinho was next on the list, but Porto seem to be holding teams to ransom for all of their players. After that I am not too sure. The same person that said Modric and Moutinho was our targets 1 & 2 does not believe Eriksen is even on the shortlist.

Sydney!

Utd are too slow when it comes to signings, always seem to wait for ages, if the scouts have done there job get on with it and get the signings, all the proven talents are being snapped by other clubs while we watch. At this rate we will go another season without silverware.