Manchester United Rumours Archive August 19 2012

19 Aug 2012 22:56:52
One of the lads that work in the studio with me is Dutch and supports Feyenoord so I decided to text him and ask him about this Buttner lad.

Now, he knows very little about him seeing as he finds it hard to see Feyenoord games letalone most
Eredivisie games.

Anyway, all he did say is that from what he's seen and heard about him he plays very much like a young clichy...Take that as you will but to me that means pace, very little discipline but huge potential to be very good.

Just thought I'd share that all with you.

The Moon.

19 Aug 2012 20:34:12
could any of the eds shed some light on the whole Angelo Henriquez saga please? I mean has he signed yet? or is he going to sign? thanks

Jake F {Ed007's Note - Isn't it just the work permit that is needing sorted out?}

I have read up, and yes it seems he is going to need a 'special talent' work permit as he hasn't played for Chile yet.

Jake F

I hope we loan him out. It does him no good to sit on the bench as it will be very hard to get a game with all the strikers that we have.

19 Aug 2012 20:45:25
Not so much a transfer question, but does anyone know what's happening with the proposed singing section? Will it be a permanent fixture on matchdays?

Matt L

As far as i am aware they have asked seasons ticket holds who wants to move to the old away fans area and they have had a couple of hundred so who knows at the minute?

nothing else has been said??

jple23

Singing section? Is motd doing a mash up with x factor?

Redjay

It wont happen until next season at the earliest now due to police objecting to certain things
johndenton

Cool, thanks guys :)

MattL

19 Aug 2012 20:38:57
Have just read Manchester Evening News online (usually quite reliable) & they are saying Alexander Buttner is almost signed, must admit never heard of him but i had never heard of Heinz,Stam,Kanchelskis,Schmiechel,Ronaldo and plenty more. Has SAF done it again & pulled another rabbit from the hat, thoughts please. MIDDLETON RED.

Just heard an interview with Dutch football analyst. Rates him quite high but mentions he is not going to get into the starting 11 and more a backup, which is what I guess we were looking for. Read an interview with him and he started as a triker and is very sure of himself and talks about how wingers hate playing him as they don' t like to track back. Same interview the guy who KFC bought he thinks he will struggle with the premiere league. Says deal is 99.99 done. Hope that helps.

Kentucky fried chicken?

Andyred

Oopps lol. meant LFC , the winger can't remember his name, but the dutch jour no says the liverpool buy will find it difficult in the premiere league.

19 Aug 2012 19:45:28
Interesting to see that the Fail on Sunday are picking up on my texts from last week and seem to think like me that Fergie knows his retirement date and it won't be more than 2 seasons. The journalists at the Fail have very good relationships with Fergie and I would be very surprised if they would print this kind of story without a little inside info. The RVP deal has really convinced me that Fergie sees the sands of time slipping away and is desperate for one last great victory. I say to you all enjoy these next two seasons as we are definitely seeing the end of Giggs and Scholes and quite possibly the Boss. This has been a golden time let us enjoy the last drops and hope that whoever comes in is strong enough to take the club on. I will be at Goodison tomorrow and I am hoping that a certain no 20 makes his debut and has a good start. I AM KLOOT

Same mate where bouts you sat ?

Coombesy

Kloot, It's well known that me and you don't get on whatsoever but the last bit of your post is what makes me have respect for you.

You can say whatever you like regarding the club, the fans, the owners, etc. but the one thing I do know about you for sure is that you eat, breathe and sleep United!

The Moon.

I agree. Looks like the time is coming.

G.A.G.U.S

I think this maybe his last season. Red Man has touched on this before and I tend to agree with him, he believes that naming the date could be an issue and it's far more likely that he would say two more years, but actually retire at the end of the season. This would stop the players and fans from worrying during the season and ruining the season.

About the game tomorrow, I am very worried about our defence and Jelavic & Fellaini. Lets hope we can outscore them with our very impressive forward attack.

Sydney!

I actually think SAF will go before he says he will, I'm thinking he's going next summer and will take up a Charlton type ambassador role.

Supasub

I think guardola will come in next year. Maybe blanc but would prefer guardola.

I think if saf does leave at the end of this season i think it could depend on how well he does. but harry redknap could be our next manager or maybe guardiola i wouldnt mind either of them knowone will ever be able to match the legend that is saf anyway JT-UNITED {Ed007's Note - Harry RedKnapper..... You are kidding aren't you?}

When the time comes, and I agree with the posts....it will be in a season or two....Fergie will make sure the successor will be the right man. Like the fans, he lives and breaths Manchester United....he won't let us down.
We all want Fergie to go out at the top, and I believe we will have the squad to do it. The younger players will be experienced by then and our legendary 'old boys' can leave knowing the clubs still in strong position to fight for titles. Blanc, Guardiola or 'The Only One' would be my choices.....just on experience matters.
All the best to all you guys that post, and lets look forward to a successful season.

The next manager will derfernitly be jose mourinhio put your house on it

Yep mourinho all the way for me too. Guardiola as a possibility.

Supasub

19 Aug 2012 18:18:27
Jose Mourinho's perceived preference for F�bio Coentr�o all but paves the way for out-of-favour Brazilian LB Marcelo to become Sir Alex's long-term replacement for Patrice Evra, should a deal for Leighton Baines fail to materialize. A fee of £12m is thought to be enough to prize the attacking full back from Madrid.

jpem27.

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1st game of madrids season and because Marcelo is on the bench you make this assumption, ridonkulous,

Football is a squad game.

Cban

Getting Marcelo for 12 million would be a steal, don't see it happening as he is used in the lm and lw position sometimes for Madrid, plus if they were selling him it woud be closer to the 20 million mark, Mind you i'd still pay that for him.

Forget Baines or Marcelo. Alexander Büttner of Dutch club Vitesse Arnhem will have a medical at Bridgewater Hospital tomorrow (Monday 20th) ahead of a 5m (�3.9m) move to Manchester United. Confirmed.

James.

If the Buttner rumours are true then perhaps you couldn't have posted this at a worst time. UNLESS, we sign Marcelo and sell Evra? Perhaps wishful thinking on my part.

Sydney!

I think if he was to leave he would more likely stay in Europe, maybe to one of the milans. Although I'd love to see him in a united shirt. Possibly the best LB around in my opinion

RR

Confirmed?
By whom?
Not by anyone at United. Yet.

As for Marcelo, he's not bad. But will present the exact same problem that Evra gets slated for....namely, being out of position due to attacking. He's not a great left back imo, not rubbish, but just not great.

RedMist

19 Aug 2012 18:29:24
Just thought I'd post for what its worth, (source is involved in Irish Intl. set up) apparently Utd are interested I
n Wigan's James McCarthy.....from my pov he is as good as any other midfielder touted as transfer target. Ro.

Ha the source wouldn't happen to be a well known Editor on here would it?

Pardoe

19 Aug 2012 18:10:23
Apparently reports in Holland are stating that United have agreed a fee for the full back Alexander B�ttner. Can an Ed/anyone shed any light on the situation there? I have to be completely honest and say I hadn't really heard of him until it looked like he was going to move to Southampton a couple of weeks back. Did that move fall through?

APC

The move to Southampton was almost complete but fell through when a third party demanded a fee.

Sounds like a real coup on our part.

Pipping Southampton to a signing! Adkins will be p****d! :)

Have never heard of this fella before, he doesn't "look" the kind of player we usually sign..he looks like a nutter.

RedMist

A real coup!?

The only other interest around Europe is from Southampton, not seen much of him but doesn't sound that promising.

Saying that we have always had a knack of finding brilliant defenders on the cheap

19 Aug 2012 17:51:51
if ed 002 is about is it true we had a bid turned down for witsel last week and if so are we likely to go back with an improved offer
jred

"19 Aug 2012 03:31:14"

Sydney!

I don't believe we have made a bid but in the enquiry phase. The deal looks to be complicated as Roma is looking at derossi to city and dejong and cash in return. Using the cash to bid for witsel. I guess it will come down to money and player preference and benfica's expectation on a fee. {Ed002's Note - You did not grasp what I said about Roma. They have no need for de Jong and Witsel. If they sell Di Rossi they need a replacement. If the sell to MC and De Jong is included in the deal then they don't. If De Jong is not included in the deal they will look to making a bid for Witsel. Manchester United has already made a bid for Witsel.}

Thanks, clear. Shahram

19 Aug 2012 17:23:32
As many of you are asking, is completely false that Manchester United have contacted Madrid about Kaka. Nothing at all in it

Directly of Guiilem Balague Twitter account!

Steveytrader...

I thought as much, twitter is never right.

RedDevil19

Yeah because hes a bloody genius! he has said some rubbish in the past like>

Aaronaldo7

19 Aug 2012 15:51:15
Sky Bet have Utd odds on to sign kaka.

Ed002. What you make of this

Adam {Ed002's Note - There is only one trustworthy Twitter site. As I said earlier, I think there is a good chance that Kaka will move to SoCal in January so it would mean someone else could pick up his wages until then. AC Milan has rejected the chance to take him; Sao Paulo can't afford the wages when an exchange was suggested. We will see.}

The odds are as they are because of the large amount of money being put on him to United. I suspect a lot of it may have been caused by twitter talk and as more bets are being placed and the odds being lowered, the more 'excitement' and bets are being placed, lowering the odds again.

It's a bit of a spiral and I wouldn't be surprised if the odds shorten again before the end of the day, but I don't expect anything to come from it.

TM

I no hes injured but dont you think SAF would play jones in front of the centre bak he was good when hi playd cm i thort he cud be r yaya toure solid at bak and strong runs forward
Donny red

Ed002, what trustworthy Twitter site is that then? Have you opened one up?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - @WonderDogSparky - I am sure that football news, political commentary and other stuff are soon to arrive through the world's only non-trivial and trustworthy Twitter site.}

Jones not got tactical awareness to play DM. And he's sicknote.

19 Aug 2012 16:06:12
according to itv sports on twitter united are favourites to land kaka, anyone know anything more about this?

19 Aug 2012 15:43:57
just heard that we are very close to signing KAKA , a deal is to be announced on monday

19 Aug 2012 15:33:06
I really don't see how this Kaka rumour can be true. He could be great for us, but I have no idea where he would fit in. There just isn't enough room in the team.

RedDevil19

If Kaka would be happy with a squad place then he would be an amazing addition, especially on loan as I imagine Real would still pay a % of his wages. He is a world class player. Had awful luck at Madrid but you don't lose that talent in a year. I'd say he is stronger than all our midfielders. In an attacking sense I mean. Is he what we need? No! But what a luxury to have.

Sambo

There is nothing wrong with a loan I suppose as if it doesn't work out then we haven't spent millions on him. Then again, it could be an awesome move that doesn't cost us alot but just in wages. It's always good having another option and I think Kaka would jump at the chance to prove himself while playing in the best club competitions.

melwing28

19 Aug 2012 14:26:49
Just heard a rumour from reliable source that utd are interested in merieles. My source told me about the Oscar to Chelsea transfer before it was in the press so can be trusted.

Ads

I hope your source is wrong. Average player who would be no improvement on the current midfield players at Utd.

No. Just...no.

It wouldn't surprise me, we were interested before he went to Chelsea and he has performed well in the EPL.

RedDevil19

Of course he did mate.

2 reasons why this is complete rubbish:

1) Chelsea would never sell to us.

2) Why would we want somebody who plays like Carrick just far worse? we have enough ball players.

The Moon.

Love it when people say a reliable source and refer to a previous transfer. Could be twitter or SSN or even lol

melwing28

19 Aug 2012 14:12:04
A Manchester United official has said the club are looking at 2 Defensive midfielders. One French & one English

Are you sure. Who could the English one be.

Which official?
'Cos the other week Fergie said he never uses DM's.

Can't imagine anyone who'd know casually saying we're after two DM's.

RedMist

Huddlestone?

Sydney!

B charlton

I think you'll find that refers to the league they play in not their nationality

I hope the English player is McCarthy...

McCarthy ( James )

Is Irish and not English for the above poster

Reddevilfan

19 Aug 2012 14:07:28
Ezequiel Cirigliano from River Plate, Any chance?

19 Aug 2012 12:23:18
why are people so obsessed with having someone to match yaya toure. We play city a guaranteed twice a season with the possibility of the cups. Yes we lost both league games to city but we also lost games to blackburn, newcastle and wigan and drew with everton. A win in any one of those games would have won the league. And yaya wasn't present in any of those four games. Yes we could do with an extra midfielder but stop panicking about one player in a team we only play as many times as the other eighteen in the league.

We also beat city twice.

Ajp

You've missed the point mate, it's not about somebody to match Yaya, It's about having someone with the ability and presence that Yaya has.

How many players in the United midfield can pick the ball up in his own half and literally run through an entire squad...I can think of 2, 1 is current not yet fit to play football in Fletcher and the other is Tunnicliffe...

People want that Keane, Viera, Essien 2006, etc. type player. somebody who can defend, attack and literally strike fear into the opposing midfield.

Are we lacking that? possibly but I think Fletcher and Tunnicliffe will give that back to us when they're ready to step into the first XI.

The Moon.

Because Ya Ya can cause chaos and change games and is a very powerfull midfielder, something we havent got

It's nothing to do with matching Toure. The fact that we lack a player of that ilk means that our defense is more susceptible to the opposition as we are weak through the middle. We are relying too much on our wing play without addressing the real problem. That said, I do think we look stronger this year.

I don't think people are bothered about going against him mate. There stating we need that type of player in our team. A ball winner

Steve the red

Totally agree mate. But I think what the few may be after is a player in the mould of yaya. A combative midfielder, someone who wants to do the dirty work. I personally wanted this as well, but still think we have a quality squad and don't necessarily need one but would love to see one as we light in that area of midfield

Eid Mubarak friends, enjoy what's left of the weekend

MuffinMan

That's true, I think the point people are trying to make also though is the presence he brings in all games he plays, not just against us, when people mention we could do with someone to match him they mean game in, game out, against all our opposition.

Charla

I totally agree with you. it is another odd opinion which continues to do the rounds. Like the idea that we need a new Roy Keane - It's like these people haven't wached the game and how it has changed in the last 10 years.

MDJ

Er... because he's a great player. Its about having somebody of his quality in every match! Obvious really.
Timbo

Another myth peddled by the media.
Like a midfield can't exist without "A Yaya Toure"!
Plenty of teams do just fine with one. Just 'cos they won ONE title they are not architects of a new game.

If we'd have had "a Vidic" last season, we probably would have won the title.

RedMist

Great point.....we don't have a left winger like Ronaldo, or a Messi, or Yaya or Sneidjer......Must we have what everyone else has. One barren season and it's the end of the world. Trouble with most United fans, is they've got well too complacenent with regards winning trophies.....and are starting to believe the hype....that their are new dominant forces taking over. Keep the faith people....IN UNITED AND FERGIE WE MUST ALWAYS TRUST.

It's not one bad season, we struggled with ugly wins in the league the last couple of years. We keep buying wingers and forwards but even Rooney looks useless in some games when our midfield can't supply a quality pass and defend higher up the pitch. Watch the city game from last year and that is enough evidence. Or watch both legs of the Bilbao game.

I think as everyone said we look very average when we come up in Europe and epl against teams that have a combative midfield as scholes,giggs are not ball winners and don't frankly have the legs. Our great teams have always had guys who commanded the middle of the pitch. This has been an ongoing problem for almost 3 years and surprising why saf will not pay top dollar for a world class midfielder. I think bayerns purchase of Martinez makes them favorites for champions league.

Did someone really suggest Fletcher? He is your answer into 'striking fear' into other teams lol
I have said we need a DM. This will allow our attacking side of the game to flow and also keep our shape. When we have Scholes and Carrick in the middle, neither know whether to go forward or whether to sit.

melwing28

Yeah but losing to city is worse than not winning the league to many.

I totally agree with The Moon. Yaya is just an example, the point being that we need a ball winner. A presence of a guy who holds the midfield together. An enforcer. A Roy Keane..!

IBleedBlue

19 Aug 2012 11:20:09
Eds with Rio now out for a whille on top of Smalling & Jones do you think we could see another defender come in? The Serbian national coach thinks Nastasic could be a better player than vidic when he develops and there were rumours linking us to him a while back, could we go in for him? I just feel as if we look so shaky at the back with Evans and especially Carrick filling in.
cmd {Ed002's Note - I would think there is sufficient cover already.}

Nothing is confirmed regarding Rio, hoping it's a bluff.

Sydney!

There's reports Rio trained this morning if true can't see him being out too long.

I can't believe it,it's same old story like last season,darren, evans,smalling, jones and now rio. what's happen to manutd? i can't wait to hear Anderson is off for 6 month,tom till feb.is it team doctors are not good? last season was a nightmare.

Where and when did you get Rio is out for a while?
JR-Red

I am still hoping this Rio news is nonsense. I have heard nothing official.

MDJ

Some reports he may be out for 2 months

19 Aug 2012 10:48:46
According to ssn Sunderland have bid 5million for berbatov is this true (princey)

19 Aug 2012 10:15:05
Morning all ,

I'm hearing this morning that United are looking to do a swap deal with Inter Milan , Nani for Wesley Snjeder

Anything on this eds?

Jasper {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

That is a very bad idea.Nani better than Young by all means.Young should be given and not Nani

Use your loaf.

Failed to get Moura, Nani has also been playing very well in the pre season. If we sell Nani then we only have Valencia and Young as our wingers? but two players that play a very similar role Sneijder and Kagawa. Wouldn't work, ever since we signed Kagawa I think any transfer regarding Sneijder has died.

I want to keep Nani, he's exciting to watch in a team that doesn't have much flair.

Ozwald

This makes no sense. We have Kagawa to play the AM role. You guys watch, Kagawa will be one of the nominees for EPL player of the year by end of season.

KP

If we swap nani for any one we would need to then replace him with a player of the same quality which would cost us about 25 to 30 so swapping nani would be a pointless move how often do swap deals actually happen anyway I can't think if any involving quality players

19 Aug 2012 09:00:19
Hearing a lot of rumours about Kaka now, Eds - any truth in your opinions?

Nicko {Ed002's Note - If there are I would expect no more than a short term loan with him moving to SoCal in January.}

19 Aug 2012 06:25:03
Just some wild speculation -- In the january transfer window we were linked with Lampard but Chelsea werent ready to do business. He still has'nt signed a new contract there, is it possible he might be the player that becomes 'available' as fergie said? {Ed002's Note - I would doubt it.}

19 Aug 2012 02:53:58
Right I'm gonna just throw this one out there, what you think folks he's the perfect player for us, Mascherano.
REDKEN.

I agree 100% can fill in at cb aswell as cm. plus barca have just signed song

Gauranga do you watch football he's never a united player

After champions league final defeat to barcelona mascherano dedicated the victory to all liverpool fans. dont think we shoud be interested in anyone loyal to the scousers

Never ever a United player. Tough tackling and brave? Yes. Crazy, hot-headed and likely to get sent off by virtue of his mouth as well as his football? Most definitely.

19 Aug 2012 03:03:50
Where has this Kaka rumour come from ? If it ha some truth to it I will be quite happy, He may not be the Kaka of 5 years ago but he still has immense talent last season when he was fit he still had an impact so I dont see why he can't go into our midfield with Carrick.

His wages are too high

19 Aug 2012 18:38:33
You joking?! Why would we want any other old midfielder when A) it means that the living legend that is Scholes, gets less game time. B) it prevents our younger players developing as fast, most notably Cleverley and Powell, Petrucci etc.

We don't need to sign any other player unless we can sign a decent LB without having to pay an extortionate fee. A defensive midfielder isn't really needed as SAF said that we've never played with a holding midfielder, I think depending how Tunnicliffe gets on this season on loan. He could be a superb player if he steps up. Love his aggression.
ozwald

19 Aug 2012 01:46:34
Kaka is on his way on loan, talks not at a completed stage but both clubs want it. Heard it here first.

- Carl

I saw that too Carl could be a really food signing. I know he's been getting very little game time but SAF has supposedly admired him for years so I think there could be some substance to it. Fingers crossed. That could be a signing that could push us to not only the title but also the champions league. I'll take a wild guess at a treble season for us. Lol

Aaronaldo7

What 2 clubs

United and madrid both want it he means

Where did you see this lads {Ed002's Note - I would guess Twitter.}

Finger crossed that Kaka doesn't come anywhere near OT. Along with the rubbish rumour we were in for Adam, this is the worst idea I've read on this site.
Mik

19 Aug 2012 01:13:36
Rafael new number 2

Caol�n.

Leaving 21 free for a cm signing I hope.

Or fabio when he returns?

Caolán.

Am pleased Rafael has got a proper number.
Now maybe people can stop saying Fergie wants rid of him.
Great player with a big future for us.
Fabio and Rafael always have numbers next to each other, so maybe Fabio will get number 3 when he comes back? If Evra is winding down.

RedMist

Rafael is a decent right back but certainly not great let alone good enough for United. Even if you watched him play for Brazil in the Olympics he made numerous basic errors, as he has consistently done for us. My issue with him is that he has not progressed over the last few seasons and if you watch him often enough I´m sure you will expect him to gift a chance to an opposing forward at least once a game. I´d rather play Smalling at RB any day.

18 Aug 2012 23:59:30
Looks like the wesley sniejder rumours are going to go into overdrive over next few days as there are rumours that united will use nani + cash to try and get sneijder.

I would love to see him in an united shirt but he had is chance last year and got to greedy, but do we really need him i would have thought united need a ball winning midfielder, 1 who can protect the back 4 while kagawa does his magic and supply his assists to rooney, van persie.

Yes just seen on straight swap should be ok and if we can get sneijder 28 on a 5 year contract would be very good transfer for man utd.

LOL. It feels like summer 2011 all over again.

MDJ

I like sneijder but we have bought kagawa
jred

If Sneiders wage demands were such a stumbling block last year how come we're willing to pay RVP much the same for a position that wasn't in as much need of a player. Don't think we were ever in for Sneiders.
DarrenUtd.

If Sneijder was swopped for Nani, then United should get him plus 10-15m. Nani is 3 years younger, nearly always fit and functions on a higher level. I think Nani will stay. If we are to sell a winger, than Young is the one who should be sold, he is clearly miles behind Nani and Tony
Mik