Manchester United Rumours Archive August 01 2013

01 Aug 2013 15:12:44
Hearing reports that Chelsea have placed a new £37M offer for Rooney and Manchester United have tabled a £26M offer with Juventus for Claudio Marchisio.

Just20n

Rooney seems Chelsea bound. can't see United turning that sort of money down. They won't sell him aboard because there's no interest for him from the club's that can afford him. If he stays it will just cause more problems in the dressing room.

The only way he'll be allowed to go to Chelsea is in a swop for Mata. That way Mourinho and Moyes can both look like they've come up trumps.
Mik

If chelsea want him that badly surely we could get mata in the deal

Dustbin

Just like to say any money we get for Rooney, Everton get half. So if we do end up selling him for 40 odd million we only get 20 of it. This is why I think Rooney will not be sold, he has no sell on value for us. Especially if we don't make a big signing like Fabregas.

HinkseyRed

Everton don't get half, they get a percentage of any profit above and beyond the fee we paid for him. The percentage is 25% and the final fee we paid was £27mil. Why do so many people just make stuff up?

UncleMalc

Why would Chelsea put Mata in the deal if he's at least twice worth more money than Rooney. The only way it could work is if United give them Rooney plus 20-25mil as well. can't see Chelsea parting with Mata though, he's class.

Mata clearly wants to leave. The thing is I don't think he'd leave for us I think he's angling for a move back to Spain. Rooney will only go to Chelsea for silly money, it would be monumentally stupid for united any other way.

Dan

Mata is not better than Rooney. Rooney is indispensable to the club and there is no other centre forward in world football that has an all round game as complete as he does. He's a unique player, he's not done himself any favours off the field, granted, but there's nobody we could bring in who can match his value on the pitch.

I don't understand where this price tag of £25m has come from, he's worth double that in today's market.

Mata clearly wants to leave? What planet are you on, that's your opinion based most likely on a fabricated story from weeks ago.

Rooney indispensable to our club.
No one is indispensable. No one is bigger than United.
The way he has behaved means we should get rid of him end of.
I pay my money to watch players who want to wear the shirt. Be it mega star or a kid. If they do not want to play. No problem, you are on your way

I washed David Peggs car

United wouldn't care, if Rooney was sulking. Remember Berbatov, we bought him for more than what Rooney was bought for. And we let him go for peanuts. We won't strengthen a direct rival. We are not Arsenal, you know.

We will run his contract down but won't let him go. Going back to Berbatov, he hardly even repaid what was paid for him whereas Rooney has been here for 8 seasons. He has more than paid his transfer fees.

We will let him go only if the club was not our direct rival, I believe.

No we're putting a 40m bid for Fabregas together.

01 Aug 2013 12:33:16
You don hear Ronaldo coming and praising Bale do you like the rest of the RM squad? I have a feeling that Ronaldo will be our new #9 next season!

KC

IF Ronaldo joined again he would be number 7 for sure. Valencia is supposedly looking to go back to his previous number (23?)

RedDub {Ed004's Note - 25?}

Surely he'd want no. 7?

I have a real gut feeling the only reason we were linked with Bale for £60m recently was to push RM into making a move this summer. That could allow Ronnie to move back to OT and the interview with Calderon on TS yesterday seemed to back up that thinking.

Heres hoping.

DanW

Ronaldo, Fabregas, Modric, Baines ohhhh

Ronaldo has never talked up any players joining madrid

Signing Ronaldo, Fab and Baines would be brilliant but I think it will only happen if we agree to sell Rooney to Chelsea. With the money for Soldado, I think Valencia will be in for Torres which would free a space for Rooney. I would love him to stay but he has kept quiet for too long and without confirming to the fans it all bull

KC

They still haven't given the no. 7 to anyone?? ;)

Maybe Fergie retired now because he knew Ronnie was coming back (therefore helping Moyes settle in)?

Maybe no. 7 shirt has been held back for a reason?

Maybe the announcement of Ronnie signing is delayed until after Bale signs for Madrid?

Maybe the whole Rooney saga was instigated to get him/his wages off the books. The fact Fergie started it means it doesn't tarnish Moyes in the same way (and we all agree with anythign Fergie says/does)?

Maybe there is some truth all this talk of a mega signing?

Maybe United delaying making any signings is because THIS IS THE BIG ONE?

Maybe we are all just getting a bit carried away. or are we?

I believe.

DanW

Tbh if "the boy" did come back I'd hope Rooney stayed when it was Rooney ronaldo and tevez we wer unstoppable a few years back now it would b mouth watering idea if Rooney ronaldo and van persie up top nice to dream but it might have legs yet. I can still see us getting baines and Afroman as our cm if all else fails but it would still b a better squad no matter what.

Go on the boy.


Dufferz

You can buy Valencia 7 shirts on ManUtd.com so what's this about 7 not been given out yet and it being kept back?

DanW if you said 'maybe' one more time I think I would have turned insane.

Dufferz, I'd love to have RvP, Rooney and Ronaldo if we can afford the wages for all three of them then i'd love to keep Rooney and i'm sure he'd want to stay. Roo and Ron used to set up each others goals on a hourly basis ;)

Ozwald

01 Aug 2013 11:27:37
Again i'm backk with a bangg!
^WHOLE DETAIL ON CR7^. till yet
here I go :

1) In December Ronaldo called a meeting with the president at Madrid, asking for a new contract. However the president refused this.

2). Clearly stating to Ronaldo that he still has 2 years after the end of that season and there is no need to sit down right now

3) This made Ronaldo come out to the media and state he isn't "Happy" anymore. After hearing this through media outlets Perez.

4) Called Another meeting between him and Ronaldo. The meeting ended up getting very serious and words were exchange before Perez told.

5). Ronaldo if you want gone and someone pays me �85millon you can go. I'll go sign someone else! Maybe Messi!. We believe these.

6). comments were made. To which Perez told Mendes later were in the heat of the moment. But Ronaldo now feels that there is no coming back

7) MUFC hearing these rumours contacted Mendes to check what's going on. Mendes revealed Ronaldo and him were happy to meet Man Utd.

8) In May Ronaldo and Mendes met with MUFC owners Joel and Avram Glazer and also Sir Alex and outgoing chairman David Gill.

9) In this meeting MUFC clearly stated to Ronaldo that he is the guy that they want to come in and fill the void left by Sir Alex Ferguson

10) They decided at the end of the meeting they would keep tempting #Madrid with offers this summer and next. But if Ronaldo contract.

11) Ran Down. They would take him in 2015 for free but pay him and Mendes a sum of £50million. Music to Mendes ears. This was agreed BUT!

12) Ronaldo requested two months to think about it. Before giving MUFC an answer, hence now Madrid going crazy and saying they want Bale

13) And are happy to give �100million. We can reveal Ronaldo has told #Madrid no contract will be signed.

14) And either he will go to MUFC on a free in 2015 or it's up to Madrid to accept a bid now. Madrid have now reacted with Bale Bid.

15) and have told MUFC they are willing to accept a bid of £65million. Once Bale is done deal!


My last 15 Points will show you what has gone on with Ronaldo Saga. But as we understand RONALDO TO MUFC surely happen this summer.


_deal done_ (i m original). {gareth and chicharito 2 posts are of mine)!


_deal done_ **[ONCE A RED ALWAYS A RED]**

As much as it pains me to say (with the awful paragraphing). it all sounds plausible.

SB

Unbelievable story, but don't know why my heart wants to believe it. Hope you are right otherwise I will never trust you again!

Oh my! you have too much free time in your hands laddie.

I would just like to ask where you get your information from?

Steve

Have said all along I don't think Real can have Ronaldo AND Bale. Its one or the other.

This all makes sense. Appreciating that don't mean its true lol!

I think even The Glazers know the first season post Sir Alex is of collossal importance and if we are stagnant in the transfer market we are more likely to go backwards than forwards.

I think we will bid for Ronaldo at c. £60m IF Real get Bale. Its a deal that works all ways up.

Dont forget Real have already spent £55m so another £85m+ on top of that surely needs them to balance the books?

And yes Ronnie can come home whenever he chooses but better to pay £60m now and get him in now while he's still a world-class talent.

The players we are going for, remain I believe:
Baines £18m
Fabregas £35m
Ronaldo £60m

These players would transform us into genuine Champs League contenders in my view. {Ed004's Note - I can't see that much being spent it would mean we would have to sell Rooney to balance the books}

Simple then sell the scouser to balance the books!
K-stand red

If all of this is true I feel the major stumbling block in signing him now would be the £50m he and Mendes would receive if they wait 2 years.

Ben

If this did happen we wouldn't even need Rooney anymore and i'm sure we would sell him on. Fingers crossed, would be a perfect summer in my eyes

All sounds very possible to me. I personally couldn't care less what the papers say, I have faith in Moyes and think that United are going about this in the right way. We will have 1 possibly 2 world class players by Sept 1st (fabs + 1) if its ronaldo then great, if its someone else then again I have faith in Moyes's judgement. I will do what the great man told me to do and that is to get behind our new manager regardless.

This does coincide with everything I have read over the last few months on Ronaldo and "secret meetings" etc.

I don't want to sound like I'm just jumping on the bandwagon here but I've read a few times from a reporter that Fabregas is being targeted as well as one marquee signing which got me thinking, if Fab isn't a marquee signing then who is? Ronaldo? Fingers and toes crossed.

Ozwald

The original post sounds like a really poor soap, written by someone who plays too much FIFA. 80 million for a player who will be 29 this season is crazy money - even for the brilliant CR7. Also how are we going to pay 20 million euros a year net - that's 350,000 pounds per week net! That would mean paying him over 30 million gross per year. 80 m fee + 150 million wages on a 5 year deal = 230 million pounds. There's no way any player of 29 can justify that package.
Mik

Thank you every one for replying and liking my post. will be back againg with a Bang :0 :)

_deal done_

If you check the Real Madrid page the eds seem to think ronaldo is more likely to end up at city if he leaves, I really hope not but I wouldn't get too excited about him coming back.

Snakey

Good post. zee:)

I really think it went more like this:

1 - Ronaldo noticed he isn't getting paid as much as a load of other lesser players late last year as there were reports everywhere of the best paid players

2- he kicked off and his agent tried to turn the screw on Madrid for a better deal

3- this was rejected due to the length of current deal, (plus new tax rules in Spain would crucify them).

4- Ronaldo uses Utd, City, PSG, Chelsea, Monaco and anybody else that could feesibly afford him as bate for a new deal with Madrid. He doesn't want to leave really.

5 - We are the only ones crazy enough to show real interest - but it isn't real interest it is just to make us fans think we are still in the market for the most expensive players, but most importantly the shareholders on the stock exchange. It's just the same as BP letting a rumour get out of control about them finding an amazing Oil well prospect, they know it will come up empty but the potential keeps that share price where it needs to be whilst they think of another way to appease the investors.

Just think about it. Ronaldo's game is based on pace, he is approaching his 30's a deal now would make sense anything later we are getting a lesser player so there is no way we are paying £50mil in 2 years. If we really are prepared to break the bank we would have done so with Silva, Hazard, Nasri, Moura, Sneijder (probably loads others we haven't heard about) - but we go for £15-£25mil players on low wages. Aside from RVP who wasn't interested in Cities better offer as he chose the club rather than the cash, which is very very rare.

Ronaldo will only come if we sell Rooney and Madrid call our bluff, if we have made a bid at all that is, which I very much doubt! We fanny around too much and the better players get snapped up by the clubs that don't care about wages.

Sween

He would not join city. No offence to the eds but come on! He says Fergie is like a father figure to him, and how grateful he is to United for making him who he is. You really think he'd join our biggest rival?

If he doesn't come back to United i'm 95% sure it will be to a club not in the premier league.

Ozwald {Ed007's Note - I'm with you Ozzy, I really can't see Ronaldo signing for City, I can't see him signing for anyone else if I am honest. Really it's either Madrid or Utd (Celtic don't need him just now), the French League is a bit $hit, Italian football just wouldn't suit him and I can't see him running about in the snow for a Russian team.
Which really only leaves Germany, would Bayern Munich splash out the sort of money involved in the deal? Or maybe we are kidding ourselves on and he would sign for City, Chelsea, Monaco or even LFC if they were paying him enough money, maybe he really is just a mercenary after all.}

Didn't Ronaldo sell his house in Cheshire recently! Would have done this if he was coming back to Old Trafford

Acker

Why are my posts on the origin of this rumour not being posted? This guy is claiming to be original when he's basically just cut and pasted this.

UncleMalc