Manchester United Rumours Archive October 21 2010

21 Oct 2010 23:47:14
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Rumour is that the reason Rooney is leaving is down to his missus. . after yet more revelations recently of him using hookers, she feels the company he keeps at OT is partly to blame. . . . Ferdinand organised the crimbo party with Hookers 2 years ago that SAF put a stop to, Ronaldo appeared in the press after shagging several call girls and Rooney likes to pay for abit too himself, and that's just the ones we know about (btw, also his best mates at OT), Some teams play golf together, some go the races, Man UTd. . . . .they do tag team down the local brothel! ! ! !

Scousedaddy

21 Oct 2010 22:16:28
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"that's just the point Red, people do not believe Rooney about the 'no ambition' claim, they believe his agent told him to say this as he knows it will turn the fans against the club rather than Wayne. Its the perfect escape with the less possible hassle for him, its genius from his agent."

If he goes I would guess he will command a salary that the Glazers would never match and if he is going why shouldnt he? If anyone moves to another job having been headhunted you don't go for a lower salary unless you are stupid.

Anyone who looks at the facts knows Rooney is right. It is time someone did look at the club, did ask tough questions of the manager and of Gill. At last someone has actually said what most fans who have watched our club for any length of time can easily see. We want to know where the money has gone, where the players are to replace the ageing or leaving players, to know what the clubs real ambition is.
Actually we should all thank Rooney, he has actually had the guts to say what we can all see and all worry about.

He has certainly rattled the powerbase at OT, I have never known such frantic meetings regarding one player. My bet is the Glazers were playing hard ball on his new contract and he has had these concerns already but this whole situation has brought it to a head.

Who will believe Gill again on anything? Gill denied Rooney was even leaving whilst knowing the player had already asked to leave. Gill said the financial results were really good. . now we know he will not tell the truth allegedly in order to hide something why do any of you believe the financial results were good?
Fergie is rattled, listen to his interview and the point of my original post. Fergie blurted out the "no value" garbage again. Well done Alex, protect those who pay your wages, but why?

To save face, the powerbrokers will want Rooney out and smear him as a money grabber if not worse, after all he has exposed Glazer and Gill for what they are, more than anyone before. It should have been Fergie who had the guts to express concern for all of us. Therefore it implicates Fergie if nothing else for not standing up and telling us the truth.
So thank you Wayne, it is the first time anyone including the press have stood up to Gill or Fergie on the "no value" in the market and the clubs ambition.
I hope you are not the last to challenge Gill, Glazer and Fergie before we are all lulled into mediocrity.

Red Man

21 Oct 2010 22:13:24
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CLUTCHING AT STRAWS I KNOW BUT ITS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE THE PERFECT REASON TO CONTACT THE BLOOD SUCKING AMERICANS. {ed's note - I just can't see him staying mate, his agent has worked this too well.}

I TO CANNOT SEE HIM STAYING ED BUT DO YOU THINK ITS POSSIBLE THAT THE GLAZERS HAVE MADE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR TRANSFERS AND GILL HAS TRIED TO USE IT AS A BARGAINING TOOL TO KEEP ROONEY?

BUT IT WILL NOT WORK AS WE ALL KNOW ROONEY'S MOVE IS MONEY MOTIVATED. {ed's note - it is possible, but extremely unlikely.}

21 Oct 2010 21:36:05
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You are correct in one part, that being that the glazer were at the meeting via video link and without Rooney! However fergie has confirmed he and gill held a meeting with rooneys representatives!

21 Oct 2010 21:28:02
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Just hear that rooney has been sol to city behind fergies back deal done by gill an glazers an fergie resigned

21 Oct 2010 21:27:37
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Rooney OUT, Saurez and Modric IN?

21 Oct 2010 21:11:10
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"@That's just the point Red, people do not believe Rooney about the 'no ambition' claim, they believe his agent told him to say this as he knows it will turn the fans against the club rather than Wayne. Its the perfect escape with the less possible hassle for him, its genius from his agent."

I don't question the ambition of SAF and many others at the club. I do, however, question the club's ability to support that ambition financially. I think you're absolutely right to say that Rooney / Stretford just made this statement to make it appear like something other than a move for more money was going on, but they only said it because it taps into a feeling many United fans already have. It was a clear misjudgment by Rooney and Stretford anyway - I'd rather have heard some honesty.

Anyway, if Rooney and Stretford have been at OT for meetings this afternoon, I agree with the Ed - it will be just to sort out where he's going. It would take an awful lot of supplication from Wazza for me (and many other United fans) to consider having him back playing for us - and I doubt he's the sort of person who would show enough humility.

His time with United's done. Let's move on. Let's talk about who we want to see in his place. Roy Keane hit the nail on the head - there was a United long before Rooney, there will be a United long after.

DarkLard08

21 Oct 2010 21:04:28
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I CAN UNDERSTAND THE GLAZER MEETING BEING ABOUT MONEY FOR JANUARY/SUMMER BUT WHAT WOULD THE SEVERAL OTHER MEETINGS BETWEEN GILL, FERGIE AND ROONEY & CO BE ABOUT? {ed's note - finding out which teams Rooney will be willing to go to would be my bet mate. I would also expect Fergie and Gill to try and convince him to change his mind each time as well.}

OR COULD THEY BE DISCUSSING WAYNE'S TERMS? COULD THEY BE DISCUSSING A NEW CONTRACT NOW THE GLAZERS HAVE PROMISED FERGIE 30-50M TO SPEND? ITS NOT COMPLETELY UNLIKELY THAT THE GLAZERS COULD DO THIS, ESPECIALLY AS IT WOULD SAVE THEM MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BY KEEPING ROONEY.

THE FIRST MEETING COULD HAVE BEEN TO ASK THE GLAZERS TO FUND TWO PLAYERS THAT FERGIE HAS HIS EYE ON, THEN THE OTHER MEETINGS COULD BE TO INFORM ROONEY THAT THEY DO HAVE FUNDS AND WOULD HE RECONSIDER? THIS COULD BE TO CALL HIS BLUFF TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT ITS AMBITION OR MONEY, OR THEY COULD GENERALLY HAVE FUNDS TO BUY ONE OR TWO DECENT PLAYERS.

CLUTCHING AT STRAWS I KNOW BUT ITS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE THE PERFECT REASON TO CONTACT THE BLOOD SUCKING AMERICANS. {ed's note - I just can't see him staying mate, his agent has worked this too well.}

21 Oct 2010 20:39:09
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""whether Rooney is going for money or because of the lack of ambition doesn't matter. Everyone keeps saying it is about money but they are missing the point, what he said was right regardless of whether it is his real reason.""

Red Man

@That's just the point Red, people do not believe Rooney about the 'no ambition' claim, they believe his agent told him to say this as he knows it will turn the fans against the club rather than Wayne. Its the perfect escape with the less possible hassle for him, its genius from his agent.

21 Oct 2010 19:35:33
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NOTHING IS CERTAIN YET, MANCHESTER UNITED HAVE TOLD FANS TO BE PATIENT OVER ROONEY'S FUTURE. THERE HAS BEEN MANY MORE MEETINGS TODAY, KNOW ONE CAN BE SURE EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENING.

I WOULD STAY HE IS STILL FAVOURITE TO LEAVE BUT THERE MUST BE SOME DOUBT IN HIS MIND OR AT LEAST A BIT OF HOPE FOR GILL & FERGIE?

WHATS HAPPENING ED? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING? {ed's note - I think he is definitely going, but Fergie is trying to ensure he will get as much money out of the transfer fee as possible. I don't understand what else there is to discuss.}

21 Oct 2010 18:40:34
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Just heard that vidic is going to come out and say if they don't keep hold of rooney he will follow. not good at old trafford! ynwa
you should of signed ur post off with yawn
u bin dippers really are a thick bunch
i have just seen vidic's interview slagging rooney off for being a selfish tw@t

21 Oct 2010 18:39:01
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Is it realistic to think that torres will go to man utd??


doni

21 Oct 2010 17:46:39
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I heard fergie has said to real that he wants higuin, benzema and sergio canales and mrs rooney said that she would be happy to move to spain but she would want to come bak once a month to see family

21 Oct 2010 16:31:53
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ROONEY TO MAN CITY FOR 40 MIL + ADEBAYOR

21 Oct 2010 16:15:41
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Sir Alex appeared to indicate on Tuesday that he had warned Rooney to respect the club. This was prior to any statement from the player. If he meant that Rooney's public indiscretions have been an attempt to tarnish the club's reputation, what of the other players who have done so in the past. If not, he should state categorically what disrespect Rooney has shown or retract the statement. Sir Alex is the greatest manager the premier league has seen but allowing us to disappear into oblivion at the hands of the Glazers should not be his last legacy. At least Rooney has publicly stated publicly what we all know and feel and have not taken us for mugs.

@There is one reason and one reason only why Rooney is leaving the club, its purely for the money, like Paul Merson said he was aware of the United debt before he said in may this year that he wants to end his playing days at the club, something has changed between now and then, maybe he was tapped up like Tevez through his corrupt agent? But what ever it is its all about the money.

I have not met seen a single person on TV that thinks he should leave United, everyone is saying he is stupid and he will regret it.

Tell me Ed. what is the difference in having 200m in the bank or 300m in the bank when you retire? Its hardly like you will spend it all is it? {ed's note - I agree completely with you mate, it is just pure greed, but what do you expect from a lad that joined you in the first place out of greed? It wasn't trophies he was thinking of, remember he was agreeable to joining Newcastle until you came in, no one joins Newcastle to win things.}

21 Oct 2010 14:27:35
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Manchester United are lining up a move for Jordan Henderson, United will offer Carrick in return and will loan Henderson back to Sunderland.

{Editor's Note: Doesn't that leave United short a player?}

Cleverley is going to be recalled.

21 Oct 2010 13:45:12
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We are in decline.no investment in squad and a manager who is feathering his own nests while debts grow.he defends the glaziers and that's why we call him sir alex the lair.dublin red.wake up now before we end up like liverpool last week.at least benitez spoke up for that lot.


THE EMPIRE IS FALLING APART HA HA HA HA

Your Scouse Empire finished years ago.

21 Oct 2010 13:45:11
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Why would we want torres? Replace a sulky injury prone player with a sulky injury prone player. Genius.

21 Oct 2010 13:02:20
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PS. Did anyone else notice last night that Gabby Obertan has without doubt been on the Cristiano Ronaldo diet! I have a feeling that with Gabby, we've got something quite special on our hands

I was at the game last night, Obertan was so average, it was painful.

Whatever you think of Rooney right now. Where is the left winger who can fill in while Giggs is injured? . Park? Obertan? Bebe? Errmm No. Don't worry we've got Mr Gill's imaginary £100 million in the bank to spend on quality. oh so he was lying ?

YOU FOOL, OBERTAN WAS LOOKING GOOD LAST NIGHT, HIS FIRST GAME IN OVER A MONTH.

21 Oct 2010 12:41:38
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I'm a Liverpool fan but for Rooney to say that Man U are not competative makes absolutely no sense, if you ask me he's been tapped up by someone, and it wouldn't surprise me if it comes from your best freinds next door the same as they did with Teves, your better of without paycheck players.

YNWA

21 Oct 2010 12:41:16
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IT WAS 100% OZIL, FERGIE MET HIM AND HIS MANAGER IN THE FULHAM TUNNEL AFTER THE GAME, HE TOLD FERGIE THAT HE WANTED TO GO TO SPAIN. NO ONE CAN BLAME FERGIE FOR NOT PUTTING IN ANY EFFORT TO GET HIS PLAYERS, THE GUY MEETS THEM FACE TO FACE.

EDITOR DID YOU SEE FERGIE'S LATEST PRESS CONFERENCE? HE SAID HE HAS A MASSIVE LIST OF AGENTS THAT HAVE CONTACTED THE CLUB FOR THEIR CLIENTS, TOP PLAYERS THAT WANT TO MOVE TO UNITED, ED WOULD YOU LOVE TO SEE THAT LIST? I GUARANTEE ADEBAYOR IS ON THAT LIST. {ed's note - who wouldn't love to see the list? Those kind of things are golden to a website like this, oh and I agree Adebayor is probably on there.}

ADEBAYOR HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO JOIN UNITED, HIM AND HIS AGENT WERE CONSTANTLY CONTACTING UNITED WHEN HE WAS AT ARSENAL, EVEN WHEN HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO CITY HE BEGGED UNITED TO TAKE HIM TO OLD TRAFFORD, THE PROBLEM IS HE CAN BE A GOOD PLAYER BUT WHEN HE IS UNHAPPY HE IS A VERY POOR PLAYER, HIS ATTITUDE IS BAD ALSO.

ALEXIS SANCHEZ WILL BE ON THAT LIST 100%, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE ARSHAVIN'S NAME ON THAT LIST TOO, ALTHOUGH HE WILL BE ON CHELSEA'S AND BARCA'S ALSO.

21 Oct 2010 12:28:45
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*I'd say it was Villa he was talking about. He has already admitted making a last minute bid for the guy but he said he didn't think the player ever really wanted to move to England which Villa certainly did not. Ozil showed plenty of willingness to move to England. Fergie really made a clanger in not going all out for the guy. No value in the market? How often do you find a top class, 21 yr old creative force for a mere 12million these days? He talks about how he sees scholes as the main man that requires replacing. . .and when he does I wonder how much he will have to spend? More than 12million I bet. {ed's note - Villa had agreed to join Liverpool a few years ago, but H&G pulled out of the deal, so I don't think moving to England was that much of a problem. Ozil was asked about a move by Fergie when he played a friendly at Fulham, that is what he was talking about.}

IT WAS 100% OZIL, FERGIE MET HIM AND HIS MANAGER IN THE FULHAM TUNNEL AFTER THE GAME, HE TOLD FERGIE THAT HE WANTED TO GO TO SPAIN. NO ONE CAN BLAME FERGIE FOR NOT PUTTING IN ANY EFFORT TO GET HIS PLAYERS, THE GUY MEETS THEM FACE TO FACE.

EDITOR DID YOU SEE FERGIE'S LATEST PRESS CONFERENCE? HE SAID HE HAS A MASSIVE LIST OF AGENTS THAT HAVE CONTACTED THE CLUB FOR THEIR CLIENTS, TOP PLAYERS THAT WANT TO MOVE TO UNITED, ED WOULD YOU LOVE TO SEE THAT LIST? I GUARANTEE ADEBAYOR IS ON THAT LIST. {ed's note - who wouldn't love to see the list? Those kind of things are golden to a website like this, oh and I agree Adebayor is probably on there.}

21 Oct 2010 12:12:14
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We are in decline.no investment in squad and a manager who is feathering his own nests while debts grow.he defends the glaziers and that's why we call him sir alex the liar.dublin red.wake up now before we end up like liverpool last week.at least benitez spoke up for that lot.

21 Oct 2010 12:12:02
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Who do you think this player is who Fergie says he missed out on? David Villa or Ozil.

*I'd say it was Villa he was talking about. He has already admitted making a last minute bid for the guy but he said he didn't think the player ever really wanted to move to England which Villa certainly did not. Ozil showed plenty of willingness to move to England. Fergie really made a clanger in not going all out for the guy. No value in the market? How often do you find a top class, 21 yr old creative force for a mere 12million these days? He talks about how he sees scholes as the main man that requires replacing. . .and when he does I wonder how much he will have to spend? More than 12million I bet. {ed's note - Villa had agreed to join Liverpool a few years ago, but H&G pulled out of the deal, so I don't think moving to England was that much of a problem. Ozil was asked about a move by Fergie when he played a friendly at Fulham, that is what he was talking about.}

21 Oct 2010 12:11:35
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EDITOR - Torres is also out of sorts and out of contract in 18 months but can you seriously see him leaving Liverpool for between 20-30m? He would earn a club that much in one year in shirt sales alone. {ed's note - Torres has not gone public with a desire to leave, he also, as you rightly point out, shifts a lot more merchandise than Rooney, which puts a premium on his price. But if he wants a move then you have to take what you can get sometimes, if that is only 20-30m, well you just have to accept it sometimes to get an unhappy player out of a club.}

EDITOR - Rooney will bring in just as much as Torres does in marketing. And its Torres's poor performances that are telling the World that he wants to move. Even Hodgson said in the summer that he is having trouble persuading Torres to stay at Liverpool, of course he ended up staying but that was because no one bid for him.

I still believe Torres is worth 35-40m though to another English club, if he went to Spain (Barca) then he will not be worth much to them in merchandising sales i am sure you would agree. people would still prefer a Messi shirt than a Torres shirt. Next summer Torres will leave because there is no way he will sign another contract at Liverpool, in the summer he will still sell for 30m minimum. Don't you think Ed? {ed's note - I am sure I read somewhere that Torres earns more in merchandising than any other player in the EPL. Maybe I misread it, I can't remember and the sites are a bit busy to google it lol. You have to remember good looks count for a lot in merchandising sales, Rooney is not exactly a looker! I think you are wrong about Torres, it does depend on how it goes under a new manager though.}

21 Oct 2010 12:08:22
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I feel Rooney will stay at United!

Early'b

21 Oct 2010 11:57:56
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EDITOR - Of course he has nothing to do with the deal but he will know a players valuation and i am pretty sure United's valuation is close to that amount too. Anyone who thinks its under 30m are truly delusional. The Glazers have told Gill and Fergie to handle the Rooney saga as they wish. Can you see Fergie playing hardball and telling Rooney he must see out his 18 month contract? {ed's note - no, I don't believe United can afford to pay him ridiculous sums of money to sit on the bench or play in the reserves. He will get his wish and leave, but I still think you are hoping for too much for a player who has personal problems. Everyone knows his form is terrible and that he has marital difficulties which are not going to help him settle elsewhere. Villa is twice the player Rooney at his best is, yet he cost just over 30m, why would anyone think that Rooney in a slump would be worth much more than that?}

EDITOR - I do not expect him to go for 60m or even 50m for that matter (unless its City), i think 40m will be accepted. David villa was 28, Rooney 24 that is why he would go for more, also Valencia were desperate for money which is why he went on the cheap. Also if its another English team buying Rooney then they will pay a little more as hes English, i don't know why but that's how it works. There is no way United would accept anything short of 40m from another Premiership club.

If Spurs could afford his wages i would swap him for Bale & Caulker, but that would never happen. Can you see any part exchanges happening with anyone Ed? {ed's note - I can see it happening, it is the only way you will get the amount you are looking for, that is for sure.}

21 Oct 2010 11:40:21
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EDITOR - Barry Silkman (Top footy agent) has said Rooney will sell for between 50-60m and if he leaves he think City is where he will go.

Why are people on this site thinking Rooney will go for 20-30m? {ed's note - Barry Silkman is not a manager or a chairman, he will have no say in the price a player moves for and no idea about how much the club would be prepared to sell him for. Rooney has 18 months left on his contract, in January, and he wants to leave, that will lower his price significantly. What team can you think of that would pay 50-60m for an out-of-sorts Rooney? I can't think of one, except maybe City, but even them I expect to not want to pay that much.}

EDITOR - Of course he has nothing to do with the deal but he will know a players valuation and i am pretty sure United's valuation is close to that amount too. Anyone who thinks its under 30m are truly delusional. The Glazers have told Gill and Fergie to handle the Rooney saga as they wish. Can you see Fergie playing hardball and telling Rooney he must see out his 18 month contract? {ed's note - no, I don't believe United can afford to pay him ridiculous sums of money to sit on the bench or play in the reserves. He will get his wish and leave, but I still think you are hoping for too much for a player who has personal problems. Everyone knows his form is terrible and that he has marital difficulties which are not going to help him settle elsewhere. Villa is twice the player Rooney at his best is, yet he cost just over 30m, why would anyone think that Rooney in a slump would be worth much more than that?}

21 Oct 2010 10:49:45
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Ed - your point about VDV is 100% right. He had a good season for Madrid last year, he was obviously a good fit for the Prem. Even at £18m we should have been considering him. And the only club who believe he would have cost £18m are Spurs - Munich deny he was offered to them at that price. It's just Levy bigging himself up as a businessman as usual.

DarkLard08

@It was Bayern that released a statement saying they were unwilling to pay 18m for the midfielder. {ed's note - have you got any links to that statement, because I have not seen any such statement, just Levy's claims.}

21 Oct 2010 00:52:16
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United was also in for both Modric & Berbatov but spurs outbid us on both players. {ed's note - 18m for a player at his peak, a player that creates and scores goals? That is so obviously good value I never understood why he wasn't the subject of a huge transfer battle. You paid how much for Berbatov? And how old was he again?}

VDV is showing his class now, but Fergie has not got a crystal ball, at Madrid he was good but not a third as good as he is at Spurs, Ed and i am pretty sure Real Madrid wished they gave him another chance now. He was not at his peak at Real but he has come good for Arry. {ed's note - he played well last season, he was a major part of the team that racked up a record points tally. I am sorry but it didn't take a crystal ball to know that he is a quality player and he is certainly not playing any better for Spurs than he did last season.}

21 Oct 2010 00:16:57
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THIS WILL BE PRINTED INTO TOMORROWS PAPERS EDITOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? IS FERGIE TALKING TRASH OR IS HE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE HIMSELF THIS JANUARY/SUMMER? {ed's note - I worry about Fergie's comments, some of what he says I agree with, but to trot out the no value line is just a joke. There were a number of players available for little or no money and of the right age - in fact Liverpool picked up two for less than 5 million in Shelvey and Wilson. I do think Rooney is making a big mistake, Fergie is right that he will regret it badly. There is no up from United, so the best he can do is move sideways.}

Say for example he moves to Chelsea, he is going to be so unimpressed with home matches, coming out of the tunnel to a pokey little stadium, 20% of the tiny audience was Fulham fans back in 2002. Within 1-3 years Drogba will be gone, Terry, Anelka, Lampard & Malouda will be gone too. Now how could he be appy with that?

Real Madrid will be hard for him and Coleen, they are both dumb as sh!te and will struggle with the Language, would Coleen trust Wayne with Ronaldo at parties? And believe me they party a lot in Madrid. Same goes for Barca except he will not know anyone there.

City is the only logical place but with just 35,000 crowd turning up to the Juventus game, is that what he really wants? He will regret the move, that is inevitable.

As for Wilson & Shelvey, Ed they are youth players, United bought Van Velzen but it never really got mentioned, i think when he says value for money he means when spending upwards of 15m, and hes probably right as he was looking at Sanchez and his value went from 15m to 25m+ with no justification and he is a United fanatic! But hes not worth 25m.

Who do you think this player is who Fergie says he missed out on? David Villa or Ozil. {ed's note - it was Ozil he meant. I can understand what you are saying, but there were a number of players available for decent money (even if the stories about VDV being available for 18m are true rather than the 8m he joined Spurs for, he seems good value to me). Sanchez performed well in the World Cup, the price was always going to rise.}

21 Oct 2010 00:12:53
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Fergie to step down in the morning Im a life long united supporter and it hurts to even think About this happening but once he speaks to gill tomorrow and is told the same as roo was he will see that those fckin yanks have destroyed what he has spent his life building he will go he knows you need buckets of cash to stay at the top and united don't and won't for a very long time sad day to be a united fan