Manchester United Rumours Archive May 23 2012

 

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23 May 2012 23:34:08
Just reading on sky sports that Hulk of Porto's agent will be working hard next week to sort out the future of the striker. Teodoro Fonseca says that there are 4 clubs in the premier league besides Chelsea that interested in his services. My question is how any club bar Chelsea or Man City can afford his 100 million euro buy out clause or is there any way around this eds? {Ed004's Note - It will not cost the whole 100 million euros to buy him}

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Like Ed said, I think it will take only around £30million plus to buy Hulk, certainly not the full buy-out clause.

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I just hope were not in.have been watching him for a while,his very strong player.but he never perform against any english club.his football style wont suit in premier league.


ferdcoast

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Something tells me his agent has seen the goings on with Hazard, the so called bidding war, and maybe thought he'll go down the same road. However, as you say it will only be between City and Chelsea.

Langers

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I think hulk to chelsea makes sense , if you had to pick a player to replace drogba i think hulk would be the man
jred

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23 May 2012 23:10:20
hi guys,
i grew up in france and am happy to translate any quotes or articles regarding hazard.(dont use google)

eds, syd
this one has legs, the vibe in france is basically that he plans to sign for utd, until that happens things can change as you know.
mercato 365 claim to have the info themselves(they are not a caught offside style site!) and broke the story on sunday claiming the player had chosen. today they claim the final touches are being put on a 5 yr deal (corroborated by the BBC) I have spoken to andy brassell (sorry for the name drop) who confirmed this is the current consensus.

BwB

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23 May 2012 22:54:16
The Times now reporting Arsenal are the 4th team to have a bid accepted by Lille what on earth is going on ?

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All news papers r going to link him with every top club at this stage to try and find out or push for an answer as to where he's going and they kno if they write it people will read it...just relax and c what happens..until I c any player sitting beside fergie with a utd scarf or jersey,he ain't signed yet.

Super red

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As long as Wenger is in charge, Arsenal will always be an attraction for french-speaking players. However in this case I think there is no chance Hazard will join them.

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It's a blag. Times have confirmed it's not true

I never believe but always hope wen we are after a player but I am now starting to believe and am looking forward to a busy summer

Utd till I die

Neil

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The 4th team isnt arsenal its Real Madrid and that where he will end up

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23 May 2012 20:53:14
sit back and wait ... we will find out whos coming and whos going soon enough

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Think you've kinda missed the point of a rumour site!

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Haha come on eds, close the site down, we will just sit back and wait!

GDS {Ed004's Note - If you say so GDS your word is gospel}

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Hmm bit of a pointless post really.

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23 May 2012 20:41:09
Reading the comments on the latest mercato365 article, it seems that French football fans see Manchester United as the best next move for Hazard. Let's hope he sees it the same way.

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23 May 2012 20:14:03
Why don't we just buy Dortmund? seems to be the way all the rumours are going :P

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That Would Be Nearly 500m GBP :p :D

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I know right kagawa, hummels.

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23 May 2012 20:08:48
united rumours 23rd may

Baines in 12m
muchu in 3m
Anderson out

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Muchu-a-do about nothing!

Gav

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Anderson isnt gonna leave because he is still one of fergies prospects

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23 May 2012 19:38:18
People saying park on his way out, it would only be if Ji sun wanted to leave, he brings in more money than any other united player it would not be a wise business move, and believe or not football is a business. Hope we get shinji x

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If kagawa came in I think that would soften the blow of park leaving...

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But as the eds have said many times Utd only get money from shirt sales in Utd stores or online from Utd, the rest go to Nike

Pardoe

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Pardoe, what about ticket sales to tourists? This definitely creates alot of revenue and many people from all over the world come to see United play, and as Park was/is the South Korean captain (?) he's obviously one of the biggest players that has come out of Asia. What about the Khumo Tyres sponsor that United got? I heard that was created by Park being a Manchester United player. He does play a part in revenue at Old Trafford and if he had low wages, I wouldn't mind him as a squad player.

A.R

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Of course that is also a valid point A.R. the tourists I think would come anyway as lots of Japanese go to games that could help more. I think Park will be here another year myself

Pardoe

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Pardore
but think of it like this the more shirts we sell the more money nike make so when this deal with nike comes to an end and we start to negotiate a new deal surly it will be based on how much nike has made over the past few years
jred

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Who are the six clowns who put unbelievable ? ? This guy is correct. Bloody prawn sandwich brigade ! Park is the biggest source of income for player merchandise . Fact ! U non believers should go support the blue Shiite . Know nothin about the club bar what u see on sky or talk sport . Gee makes me mad

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Cheers pal a red who knows what he is on about I posted this because some fickel fans get carried away and forget about what park has brought to united.

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I've lived in South Korea for five years and see very few natives in Park Ji Sung shirts. I think that side of things is overstated. As football is huge here now, most young lads have 'picked' a premiership team not really based on it containing a Korean national. Support for Chelski and Liverpool (as well as obviously Arsenal) is growing if pub-based sightings is anything to go off. {Ed007's Note - Well I know of plenty of South Koreans that have came over in large groups to Celtic Park because Dave plays for us. They don't leave much stock in the superstore either.}

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23 May 2012 19:19:31
What about gotze going to united young player and better than what we've already got

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I'd love to get him but don't think he wants a move

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Better than what we Gotze ;)

DodgyBanter

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Recently signed a new contract :(

In a perfect world id have Mario Gotze and Javi Martinez at Utd! in fact id love just one.. i hear Heskey left Villa though maybe thats more realistic.

Matt4486

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23 May 2012 19:14:44
Does anyone know if we have gone back in for Asamoah? I sincerly hope so as I would be loathed to miss out on him, especially to Juve who could get both Pogba and Asamoah. They would both be great additions for them.

RedDevil19

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You can't class pogba as the same him, he was a good reserve player nothing more lots of them about

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23 May 2012 19:04:31
The following website in France suggests MUFC have won the race to sign hazard on a 5 year deal.

http://www.mercato365.com/infos-clubs/lille/man-united-quelques-details-a-regler-pour-hazard-852157.shtml

RedMUFC

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Read on a bit and it says an English source, they prob just copied the guy who guessed this on bbc radio the other day, I won't be getting excited til I read it on man utd website

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Translation ......Eden Hazard at Manchester United, it's only a matter of details. As we announced Sunday, the Belgian player has decided to defend the colors of Manchester United despite competition from City and more recently Chelsea. The player and the Reds are in broad agreement. There are only some loose ends before the formalization of the transfer in the coming days. Player of the LOSC has made his choice last week. A five-year contract awaits.

Pardoe

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Read the full story says according to an English source

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The English source referenced was in an article published on the same site 3 days earlier - the way its written something more has subsequently come to their attention. Not to say that their new source is any more reliable of course! I for one hope it is true - I expect we will find out in the next couple of weeks for sure

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23 May 2012 18:51:41
Is it true that rafeal Morrison is being released by west ham?

just a few people in work were talking about it. I've not read anything about it just curious if it's true?

Any of the eds know anything?

LUHG {Ed004's Note - Know nothing about it}

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Apparently his off-field problems have continued and Allardyce doesn't want it around the club... looks like fergie was right again

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Ravel

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Apparently when he signed for West Ham, his contract had a promotion clause that would increase his weekly salary to 50,000 per week. He only played in a handful of games, so West Ham don't want to pay him that sum of money. Not to mention his off the field issues...

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Ryt I see, seems like fergie was right to offload such a disturbed player.

Pretty bummed that pogba is going.

LUHG

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23 May 2012 18:37:37
Baines looks a great player and would be a very good buy.

Fom OPTA website.
"Baines was only dribbled past 10 times this season, whereas Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole were both beaten 29 times."

RebelRed

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The people bashing Baines are the same people who are crying out for Alba, its just snobbery because his name isn't Bainesinho.

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Baines is not good enough to be a United left back. Too slow and too weak. I wouldn't pay £6m for him and think the story is utter dross.

Sydney!

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I have never been impressed with Baines and it has nothing to do with his nationality. I like buying English players, but only top quality players who have the potential to be world-class. Baines is not going to improve at 27/28 and he is never going to be world-class.

Sydney!

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Dear oh dear baines pathetic. great ambition our club has now eh

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That quote makes intersting reading given that many of Baines' loathers on here cite the fact that he always gets beaten as the reason he is not good enough. This quote seems to pour a little water on that idea (if it is indeed true)

Gav

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If this is true, then hah to all the losers who keep saying he's not good enough. I've always said we should get him.

Percy

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I didn't think Keane was going to be good enough to replace Ince. I was wrong.

I was gutted we wasted 7m on Andy Cole. I turned out wrong. I mean, he was wasteful. But, still a solid signing.

Remember that summer we signed OGS and Ronnie Johnnson!?!? Who the hell were they?

The Sheringham signing dissapointed me. Thought we needed someone better that summer. He ended up good.

I wasn't impressed by the Yorke signing either. Thought he was a bit pants and didn't take the game seriously enough.

Evra and Vidic. I'd never heard of them. They've been class.

Anderson / Nani - never thought we'd buy them. I didn't even buy them on FM.

I didn't think Valencia was going to be good enough. I was wrong.

Hernandez is probably the latest.

---Look, the point I'm trying to make is.... just leave Fergie to it and trust him. Fair enough, he can be hit and miss, but invariable he gets it right. If Fergie wants Baines, then we'll give him and chance. He could do a Valencia and up his game 50% and be Champions League quality.---

Don't be so harsh on some of these players.

firebear83

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23 May 2012 18:31:56
Ed, What about Iker Muniain sud we not b tryin to sign someone like him were we can play down the wings or threw the middle?? {Ed004's Note - He is a good player but apparently he has a bad attitude}

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He has problems off the field and a giant buy out clause in his contract... you can get same value for less.

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23 May 2012 18:31:22
Andrew Lindsay - BBC columist just put this on twitter
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Cannot fully verify source but being told Eden Hazard has chosen Manchester United and will "sign on or by Monday". #mufc #hazard #bbc

Also went on to say fee is in the region of 40m euros so about £32 million.

And his source has been right on one occasion before on a big transfer.

doesnt say who though ...

Hallis

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Why is it fergie loves buyin players for 30 mil lol

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Well there's been a few journalists saying the same thing but I don't belive anything untill it's on ssn or manutd.com

Hopefully it's true

LUHG

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Looks like he wants to follow in the footsteps of ronaldo... Smaller club... Man utd... Spanish giant. Cant complain though, if he comes to utd, we will get 4 or 5 years from him and potentially sell him for the big bucks a few years down the line.

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23 May 2012 18:18:51
From what I've been told. The baines deal was agreed in December when Gibson went to everton. We wanted 5 but agreed to sell for 3 as long as we got baines for 12. Also agreeing that a bid wouldn't be placed until summer, allowing them time to find a replacement.

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23 May 2012 18:05:02
I think hazard will pick united because I think he wants to be a superstar and I think it will be easier to do this at united especially with the number 7 on his back and we are the most valuable brand in world football more coverage around the world. Although I would really like us to sign hazard for me the kagawa deal is much more important we need a player like him really badly goals from midfield and assists I think he would link so well with rooney so hopefully that deal will get done. I also think we need another midfielder and my pick would be strootman looks built for the premier league imo and dutch players tend to be brilliant at united I can't think of hardly any bad ones maybe jordi but stam VDS RVN they were all brilliant for us I think dutch players bring something really good to the team a calmness and good technical ability. I hope we are in for him I know milan are very interested but hopefully we are. If we got those 3 players I think we would be brilliant next season smalling will also be immense next season I think he looks such a good defender. Plus de gea after his shakey start has really come on and young at the end of the season was very good and jones will also progress. I would like to see petrucci and barmby training with first team and geting carling cup games and maybe european games that don't matter if we can play a lot better in the group stages next season.
REDMAN 1987 {Ed004's Note - I still next the left back position needs sorted out}

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Ronaldo replacment, hazard will be in a few years if he comes

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23 May 2012 17:59:20
Ed, is baines a cert to sign for us?


Joe.a {Ed004's Note - No, far from it...}

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Thank god

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Defo not the stumbling point is he still has 4 years left on contract so everton prob want double the 12 million

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Not sure why people post replies with putting their names. I'm a fan of baines and hope he signs. Thanks ed.

Joe.a

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He's better than Evra, that's for sure, maybe still not utd quality, but Evra hasn't been for Two seasons now

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Im fan to thats why he should stay at everton

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No way anyway he is terrible

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23 May 2012 17:27:32
Is this a coincidence, I call it Marketing

MAN UTD Season Ticket holders, have until this Friday to renew or loose the rights to the seats. I am one of them.
just a observation but don't you think over the last few season's, the club have allowed rumours to fly early on about the worlds most expensive players which could have been denied by the club outright.
I think the club actively encourages this through Flase leaks so the seat get Bought up
After Friday, my guess is that we will see are real targets, and they wont be BIG Buys

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No its not..you have untill friday the 8th june...even then they usually extend the deadline,to get your season ticket.

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Alright so we just agreed a fee and terms for hazard for nothing seems logical

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Last day june 8th
johndenton

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Was not enough money spent last off season for you? How much would be enough? I'll tell you what, go ahead and let your season ticket lapse. See? Problem solved.

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U support your club thourgh thick and thin who ever we buy mufc for ever ps iam season ticket holder to

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M8 your a muppet leave your ticket lapse so a proper man utd supporter can have it
redtonka

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United will always sell all their season tickets no matter what transfer speculation is being banded about, don't be so daft pal! this will be a big transfer window for us,you'l see...

Andyred

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23 May 2012 17:21:21
I have to say that I am delighted that we have submitted a bid for Hazard, but i really hope that we have not gone silly on the wages, something like 200k a week. I say this because he simply hasn't earned it in this League yet for this great club. I'm sure it would upset the harmony of the squad if players like Ferdinand are taking a 50k pay cut and key players like Nani are on 90k pw. These guys have all worked hard to be here and I don't think that Hazard should get more than say 130k pw. Giving him a massive salary would please him, but i doubt it would please the rest of the squad all that much.

I hope that he comes in though! :)

RedDevil19

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I agree. Whilst I would love to see a marquee signing, I also do not want the squad morale disturbed, or the weight of a hefty price tag to hinder a player's performances.

I cannot think of an example where we've signed big like this and it has paid off.

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It's been rumoured in the past that Rooney has a clause in his contract that he has to be the highest paid player at Utd. Therefore I doubt we would pay him 200k a week... Don't expect to see him at the breadline anytime soon though!

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Nani a key player if hazard is signed i dont think he'll get a look in

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Of course they wouldn't offer him anywhere near £200k a week you muppets! I reckon it's more like £130k a week, City's offer mostly likely will be more along with Chelsea. But United hope his signs with us for footballing reasons! I've got a feeling he will.

Ozwald

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I think if we get hazard his salary will be boosted with image rights this will be part off the attraction for him especially if he gets no 7 shirt we may just guessing pay him 120k-150k and rest as above.

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23 May 2012 16:57:47
My obvious INS are ~ behind the attacking midfielders - Fellain ........ATTACKING MIDFIELEDR -- Shinji Kagawa ..........LEFT WING MIDFIELDER -- Eden Hazard .........DEFENDER (CB) -- Jan Vertonghan .........STRIKERS -- Robert Lewandowski WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS and Edd {Ed004's Note - I doubt we are going to get either vertonghan or Lewandowski}

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Ed,

With vertonghan being clearly up fire grabs. Why are we not even attempting to lure him or way?

Monk {Ed004's Note - Because we have a tonne of defenders and hasn't he stated he wants reassurances of regular game time and to live in London. Neither of which we can offer him}

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You would need stupid money to get Fellaini from Everton, he has 4 years on his contract, he's young, he has been class, they paid 15 million for him and most of all Everton do not sell cheap...

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23 May 2012 16:40:02
Eden Hazard will sign for MUFC. The wages werent a major issue as he has agreed a contract around 150k a week, plus bonuses etc and will be 5yrs long.

Rejected city due to the size of the team and wants to be playing week in week out.

The whole chelsea thing im not sure about as one they want moura and and he is cheaper plus the managers situation is a problem for Eden.

Lastly Expect to see Kagawa arrive for around 13 million. We will also try signing Lewandowski but cannot see it happening as BvB will not let a deal happen at the moment, and expect his price to bumper after the euros ruling us out.

Over and out

DSETRED

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I hope u r ryt mate
hazard ,kagawa and we will rule europe for quite a few seasons

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Ah word straight out of sir Alex's mouth are they, you know the same as the rest of us , nothing.

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Ohh ohhh its my turn! source? link! ahhhhhh now tht feels good lol
Brooksy

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Any sources? I have my sources word that we have pretty much signed kagawa, im hoping soooo much we sign hazard too!

UNITED_LEGENDS

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Just missing Martinez as DM and we would rule the prem and Europe for a few years

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You don't need to know my sources, I'm giving you the information I know. Rather than have a go, stand back and watch it unfold. DSETRED

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How will he get more playing time we already have enough wingers in young Valencia nano etc he is all about money that he hasn't deserved so far all hype

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Are you serious? You honestly think Eden would not get a place? That's like saying we have Hernandez, berba, owen, wellbeck last year not sure if wazza will start! DSETRED

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23 May 2012 16:06:41
SSN say that Eden Hazard favours man united over city or chelsea.

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Done deal then LOL

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They said that about nasri..

JK92

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Old news

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23 May 2012 15:33:50
Any news on united signings of late? Kagawa, hazard, Robin van persie etc.....

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I actually don't think anyone has mentioned Hazard on this site, I tried to type it into the search function and nothing!

Surely if you are on this site you can see what news there is....

GDS

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Kagawa has agreed personal terms but Manchester United have yet to agree a fee for Kagawa. It's proven difficult, because BvB are wanting around £15 million whereas United are only willing to pay around £10 million since there is only one year left on his contract.

Hazard has agreed terms with Manchester United (aswell as Manchester City and Chelsea) but he is yet to make a choice.

Manchester United haven't approached Van persie and I don't expect him to leave Arsenal either.

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No, not here.

DodgyBanter

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23 May 2012 15:30:04
is the reason we're taking so long with Kagawa anything to do with him being backup if the Hazard signing doesn't happen? If so we could risk losing both of them
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I believe Dortmund are looking for a little bit more cash as was agreed, as usual clubs are trying to milk what they can because it's Utd

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Just the fact that the transfer Window isn't Open yet...not wondering why nobody has done any deals?

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That is what I beleive the reason is, yes. Which is a shame, we should just buy both, it certainly won't harm our midfield.

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What makes you think its taking so long?transfers take weeks not days,for all we know it could be agreed but were not going to hear it yet,have a bit of patience

phil

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Arsenal got padolski and Chelsea got Marin

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Yes teams have agreed deals to sign players i.e pre contract agreement but nothing is official until the Transfer window actually opens!

RedMUFC

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So it's not the transfer window opening stopping it then, utd and any player can come out and say they'll be signing when it opens

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Its not even june yet.

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United have never declared deals early. What's the point?..relax and enjoy the summer

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"United have never declared deals early. What's the point?..relax and enjoy the summer"

LOL good post - it would do a lot of ppl on this site good to take this advice! Including me at times :

Gav

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Hernandez deal was announced months before transfer wondow opened.

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With Scholes and Giggs both in the last season and Fletcher potentially never returning ,Park looking likely to leave and Anderson yet to really blossom it really does make our midfield pretty lame.
Kagawa and Hazard in my opinion is the least we need to realistically challenge on all fronts , I still think we would need to add an enforcer on top of that plus a striker if Berba and Owen are going as well as cover on both full backs.

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23 May 2012 15:19:59
There are alot of people saying Hazard is a mercenary, how he definitely wont be signing for the club and how they dont want him anyway. IF we do sign him then I fully expect NOT to see any of those same people posting on here saying what a great signing it is. There seem to be alot of people on here who claim a deal is never going to happen so that if it doesnt, they were proved correct and if it does, United have a great player and they are happy anyway. These people are generally the doom and gloom merchants that rant on here after every defeat. What ever happened to wait and see?

TK-Red

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TK,

You know how this site works, people don't leave names, then change their mind every day and nobody knows!

People who actually have an opinion and stand by it and turn out to be wrong and actually leave a name get a lot more respect from me!

GDS

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Thats the problem GDS mate. There are too many people on here, no names and signed posters, who are so worried about being wrong about things and worried about someone else saying they dont know what they're talking about that they refuse to commit to any given opinion, whether it be a signing or about how good a player really is.

TK-Red

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LOLLLLL oh please. WAKE UP. You're grovelling to someone who as you pointed out most likely will never even think to go on this site and read what you posted, and has proved absolutely NOTHING in a United shirt. What are you judging him on?! Reserve games?! By that token Eric Nevland should've been an absolute world beater, but it didn't quite work out that way did it lol.

Thankfully we seem to be making BIG moves this Summer, so the sooner that players who fail to commit to the club like Pogba sling their hook and rot elsewhere the better!

South Eastern Red

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Well I would be happy to see us actually bring in a big name signing but i'd rather it not be Hazard, I just feel that with his baggage and his career plan to play in Spain I just think he'd cost alot of money and potentially be a problem to the harmony of our dressing room while not being the long term answer to our problems. maybe i'm being fussy, but personally i'd prefer Rodriguez if we are to spend that sort of money on one player. If Hazard signs then I will give him the benifit of the doubt, but I wouldn't be suprised to see him shaft us further down the line to get his dream move to Spain.

Shappy

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Hate to say this guys but there are too many people saying that if he doesn't sign for the United he is only after the money. Don't forget that the other two clubs are current Premier league and European Champions. We have to accept that our wonderful manager and our wonderful history aren't going to be the deciding factor in a 21 year old Belgians mind. I hope we sign him but don't believe we will. If he does sign then despite all the claims about his character he will have gone up in my estimations. We have never had great players in the past with big egos have we? (Best,Cantona,Beckham,Ronaldo)

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'South Eastern Red'

What planet are you on mate? ;) I think you commented on the wrong post.

'Shappy'

Thats all it comes down to at the end of the day. You think he'll come back to bite us in the arse where as I think he might just learn to love the club like Ronaldo did. The difference being that just because he isnt your favourite you arent claiming that he will never join. You have your opinions, you stick to them and you leave a name. Also you wont come back on here in the event we sign Hazard and claim you wanted him to sign all along.

TK-Red

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Ed, can you remove my comment please. It was supposed to be in response to a different post! Doh! Thanks.

South Eastern red {Ed004's Note - We cant without deleting the whole discussion...}

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Very well said! im getting bored of the pessimists as well! I would like to see some logic shown by those who simlpy pot 'dream on' ... 'we cant go for players of that calibre anymore' etc etc.

Gpot7

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Too true. there are too many fans who don't understand what it means to 'support' your team.

MDJ

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I made a similar point the other day. We cant expect everyone to love the club, be a boyhood fan or whatever else. What we can do is to do our best to get them to the club and by being at the club and being a part of our history they will develop an affinity with United. Cantona and Ronaldo were never United fans, never claimed to love the club when they joined but you can be sure they do now.

TK-Red

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Yeah my bad, and I have just commented on the right one! Lol! I asked for my comment on here to be removed but it hasn't been yet :/.

South Eastern Red

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Ah right lol. Will make sure similar errors aren't repeated in the future lol. Cheers Ed.

South Eastern Red

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Shappy
you keep going on about hazard wanting to play in spain.
its not so much spain but madrid or barce , now how many talented young footballers out there do you think wouldn't want to play for one of them 2 one day,
jred

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Its been a while since Hazard talked about going to Spain and things can change. Alot of people didnt want us to sign De Gea because they thought he would be going back to Spain in 3 years time but going by the way he has taken to the club and the things he has said, I think he will be at the club for a long time.

TK-Red

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Well said guys - unrealistic, petty fans do my head in!

One thing I don't like is comments like 'we never make big signings' or 'we only buy unproven youth' or 'we don't have any money to spend'

At the end of the day each transfer is totally different and and should be done on a deal by deal basis - not always buying kids but not only buying recognised 'world class' players either. Some moan that we're trying to buy Clyne and Powell but it makes sense to make these signings if we want to be successful in the future as well as now!

If we do manage to get Hazard for around £30m (and £100k+ p/w) hopefully it will put some of those negative fans back in their place. But hopefully they will also realise that we don't have an unlimited budget so it also makes sense to do 'better value' deals e.g. Kagawa, Powell, Clyne

Gav

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There are alot of young player who want to play for Barca or Real but I personally would want a player who wants to play for us and feel that playing for us would be the pinacle of their career not as a stepping stone. Hazard has said that Real are his dream club and who he wants to play for, if we sign him and he is a huge success then it will only be a matter of time before he leaves to Madrid. Yes he may fall in love with the club like Ronaldo did but that didn't stop Ronaldo going.
Like I said if he comes then i'll welcome him and give him the benefit of the doubt but I will always have that unsettled feeling in the pit of my stomach that he'll leave once he's reached his peak.

Shappy

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Shappy

If we sign Hazard for £30 mill or whatever, get 5 good years out of him and then sell him for £80 mill then I think that could be considered a good thing.

Are you suggesting that Utd's relationship with Ronaldo was not worthwhile?

Andrew B

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Of course I wouldn't say that signing Ronaldo wasn't worth while but I think the Ronaldo deal was very different to any deal we would have for Hazard. Hazard would cost two or three times as much and would be on much higher wages and in my opinion Hazard wouldn't hang around as long as Ronaldo did. Also with the current FFP rules coming in it may be hard to get such a high fee in the future.

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Shappy
i understand were you are coming from but really you are saying dont spend big money on any player who has a dream to play for an other club, most spanish kids will grow up dreaming of madrid barc , italians inter ac etc etc

also i wonder how many of our current team would turn madrid down if they made an offer and remember madrid and barce would only want hazard if he had done very well for us.
jred

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Nah i'm not saying don't sign anyone who has dreams to play else where, i'm saying is it worth spending so much money(in wages and fee) on someone who is so out spoken and has attitude issues and so clearly wants to play somewhere else. Do you think that this deal could come back and bite us in the ass? Cus I feel it could and probably will, thats my concern with his possible transfer. I hope i'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

Shappy

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23 May 2012 15:17:37
ED002 what is the latest with Hazard have united city and chelsea agreed a fee like his agent has said who is the most likely to sign him at the minute? {Ed002's Note - I think you have perhaps misunderstood what his agent has said. Lille have not agreed a fee with anyone.}

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Lille president has said they'll wait til hazard makes his choice then deal with that club

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23 May 2012 15:16:21
BBC Sport chief football writer Phil McNulty on Twitter said that man utd are in the hunt for bayern munich's left back youngster david alaba.

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He has been linked with us for a couple of months now. Ive not seen a great deal of him, to be honest, but he looks like a fantastic athelete who can run up and down the left wing all day long. Depending on the price he could be a good signing.

TK-Red

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I understand that he can also play CM so it sounds like the sort of player SAF would look at.

Ports

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I think Bayern have already rebuffed offers from Barca already so I don't see it happening unfortunately.

MattL

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We are not going to get him, he's Bayern through and through. He came up through the ranks (even though he's Austrian) and, unlike some money grabbing brats (e.g. Pogba), he is happy at Bayern. He's only 19 (turning 20 in June). It's no gonna happen folks.

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People need to realise that players at clubs like Bayern Munich don't actually need to leave. They earn or have the potential to earn big wages, get Champions League football every Season and are pretty much always challenging for trophies.

When was the last time they sold a highly rated prospect or a proven world class player in their first team plans to one of their European rivals? I don't remember either lol.

South Eastern Red

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Owen Hargreaves - but didn't we live to regret it!

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23 May 2012 14:38:23
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11854/7773096/Juve-set-to-seal-Pogba-swoop

Juve director says they're on the brink of capturing him

Good ridents

LUHG {Ed002's Note - Rodents or riddance?}

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Lol it's auto spelling on the iPhone

LUHG

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Him and his agent can f@@k off as far as i'm concerned .......!

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23 May 2012 14:36:13
Pogba, I am sure you dont read gossip. But this is for you. Im sure you listen to your parents seeking guidance etc, so why do you listen to your advisor - all he wants is more money! He doesnt care for your welfare, success or future?
I have admired u since your arrival from France and I know its only a matter of time before you play for United on a regular basis. Belief in yourself and not on this money sucking leech!
Last question ?? How many games for Juventus will you play in the first team during next season. I predict no more than 6. I hate you sitting on the reserve team for years to come. Its a shame!!

Before you email me fans to stick to teaching, I have been a coach in soccer for 11 years, yes not long but it allows me to have an opinion....

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What's soccer??? -.-

A.R

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Get a grip....it's football not life and death.
He's played a handful of games for us and we have managed to cope when he hasn't played.
Scary how obsessed some people are on here about Paul Pogba

Simmo

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LOLLLLL oh please. WAKE UP. You're grovelling to someone who as you pointed out most likely will never even think to go on this site and read what you posted, and has proved absolutely NOTHING in a United shirt. What are you judging him on?! Reserve games?! By that token Eric Nevland should've been an absolute world beater, but it didn't quite work out that way did it lol.

Thankfully we seem to be making BIG moves this Summer, so the sooner that players who fail to commit to the club like Pogba sling their hook and rot elsewhere the better!

South Eastern Red

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Great shout out to Eric Nevland. him and Mads Timm could have been brilliant

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"Simmo"

Completely agree with you! It's laughable how people go on about Pogba on here like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Hopefully we'll sign some real quality in the middle of the park this Summer, and then people will forget all about him!

South Eastern Red

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Mark My Words,
He Is Gonn'a Regret It Someday In Future For Leaving United.

Aly

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23 May 2012 14:22:01
Hello all,
Regarding Pogba: Why is it so hard for us to give him a new contract. Is the problem that he is looking for too much money, or does he want more playing time.
If he is going to be the player everyone here thinks he is going to be, can we not put him on a wage scale that increases with so many games played, so theoretically in four years he could possibly be 60/70K per week.
Re playing time: I think is was a very bad decision that he did not get more game-time this season compared to Giggs or Park, who were very poor all year. (If Giggs is genuinely better than Pogba now then Pogba is not going to be good enough i'm afraid). Was SAF trying to punish Pogba somehow? Why did we have to loose Morrisson? Is there an issue also with Fryers? Lots of questions need to be asked and answered!
Does anyone have any genuine information about Pogba? Ed's? I just think if he is going to be as good as people say we should move heaven and earth to keep him (especially as SAF will probably hold to 442 so a box-box midfielder is paramount)

J Bones.

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I'd probably pick the kids a bit thick and his agent makes more money going to Juve

Pardoe

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23 May 2012 14:23:26
Well with Pogba supposedly off (sigh), I was thinking of where Juve plan on using him. Surely with Vidal and their interest in Asamoah, there will be no first team spot for him? Oh well, I guess now we need to invest in a holding midfielder. I still think Yann M'Vila is the man we need. Both him and Pogba are French midfielders, and Yann is only two or three years older and is the focal point in France's international team.

Sparty On

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Good riddance ! Him and ravel can tweet each other about what the reserves are like at their new clubs , all this talk of players choosing us is daft WE ARE MANCHESTER UNITED ! We chose players not the other way around

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Being saying MVila is the player we should go after big time for a while he is what we are lacking in midfield. I would aslo go for Sneijder and our midfield would be sorted for the next few seasons. We are missing a bit of bite in midfield and aslo creativity, a nnew centre forward seems to be required also as we have never replaced Van the Man. I think the most we will buy is 3 players and hopefully they will be quality.

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23 May 2012 14:03:12
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed the Serie A giants are on the brink of signing teenage midfielder Paul Pogba.



Marotta says discussions are in the advanced stages, with Juve waiting on an answer from the 19-year-old.

"We have lured him away from Manchester United," he told Corriere dello Sport.

"We respected the rules. Pogba, for his own reasons, didn't intend to renew.

"We informed the club and we are now waiting for an answer. Talks are well advanced."

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I have already suggested in another post that the words E**n H****d and W****y S******r should be banned. I would like to add a further two words: P**l P***a. I am sick to my back teeeth of hearing what this young academy player may or may not do. If he wants out, get him a one-way ticket (economy class) to Italy and Good Riddance!. If he cannot realise that he is in the right place for his development, then he should be shown the door asap. Has he not seen how Ravel Morrison has set the world alight at West Han ... NOT!
Mike B.

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Its only his agent and Juve speaking, so i still doubt hes going as he would of been cast aside from the other players ages ago.

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23 May 2012 13:20:45
Just heard on SSN that it's their "understanding that hazard will choose man utd over chelsea and man city after agreeing terms with all parties" I really hope this is true. SSN are hardly ever wrong. T45

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I dont understand how sky sports would no this, im not saying your lying, im saying they are, il be amazed iff we pull this off!

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The reports of him prefereing United are well documented already. Is this a new development or a re-gurgatation of old news?
Red1

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But they do lie.

MDJ

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Anyone got any confirmation on this. It seems like a development from what ssn were saying yesterday.

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When did you hear this? Can anyone else confirm this too? Also SSN are always wrong, just think back to last summer!
Carl

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If hazard wants to be the best player in the world there is no better club than united for sure...city just unload players like s**t and chelsea doesnt even have a final decision on their managerial position...i hope he does the right thing and choose united

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Yeah i just herd that rafeal is going to chealse he should go on loan to befica

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What an absolute crock!

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Sky say Hazard to United. Everyone puts money on Hazard to United. More money for Sky. They know as much as us.

G.A.G.U.S

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What is ssn

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Who would ever think that lies come out of sky?

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I heard it on SSN just after 1pm today. That's the reason why I posted it on here. It's nt the same headline that ws on SSN 2 days ago. I think on Monday they were saying "hazard prefers a move to united" bt today they are saying "SSN understands hazard will choose united over chelsea and city" T45

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Ok interesting cheers for sharing

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SSN - Sky Sports News

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23 May 2012 12:57:44
Borussia Dortmund have asked about the availability og Bendtner. Maybe this could open the spor for Lewandowski to United?

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No it is because their other striker Lucas Barrios (who is probably better than Lewandowski) is off to china because he did not get enough 1st team action...

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23 May 2012 10:44:56
Hi ed, we are aware that hazard has agreed terms with 3 clubs so currently we just have to wait for his decision and hope he chooses united.

i would like to know then if we are playing a waiting game with hazard are we now going to wrap up the kagawa deal? personally i think he is a real class act and for would be happy to pay 20m euros.

Also any other deals lurking? {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware United are not going to match his wage demands and Fergie is not interested in a player who holds his own press conference every week.}

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Similar to Ronaldo Ed. He was hardly quiet.

G.A.G.U.S {Ed001's Note - not to the extent of Eden 'Media Whore' Hazard though!}

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So Manchester United will not sign Hazard then?

MDJ

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23 May 2012 10:29:41
Ed's - are you there?

Not been updated for just under 2 hours? we having a melt down? lol

If info is correct we are looking to sign

kagawa
Hazard
Baines
Fellaini (not sure on this)
Michu (again not sure)
That crewe lad
Clyne
Asmomoah (not sure)
Lewandoski (offer rejected)

This would be our busiest transfer window ever!
The not sures are where i cannot find information relating to actual offers going in.

Can you shed any light on this list at all please

Monk

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I can shed some light:
They won't all happen.

M.D.

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23 May 2012 12:30:21
what about santon from newcastle has had a year playing in the prem good pedigree played for inter and newcastle use to playing in front of big crowds played in the champions league young best years ahead of him 10m pound bid for him would allow newcastle to keep hold of cabaye or tiote or even izaguirre anyone but baines come on!
cjwales82

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He's awful. Remember the games against Wigan & Tottenham ?

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I think alot of people would disagree with you... He is a better defender than Patrice Evra without doubt.

Have you watched Man Utd in recent years we can't take corners to save our lives and we havent had a dead ball specialist since ronaldo... Baines can do both

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23 May 2012 12:11:29
lots of reports saying kagawa is joining chelsea.

ross

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What reports?

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Link to one of the lots?

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Not sure where your getting this info from, can u specify cos i cant find any reports whatsoever linking him with chelski

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Where?

GDS

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23 May 2012 11:56:51
Can anyone give me a quick report on llarnell Cole,, I no the foxes are interested in him. Thanks

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23 May 2012 12:10:13
eveton are lining up Cissokho as Leighton Baines' replacement - but will face competition from Newcastle to land the Lyon full-back.

Goodison Park boss David Moyes has resigned himself to losing Baines to Manchester United this summer.
United chief executive David Gill has opened discussions with Everton chairman Bill Kenwright over signing the England defender and is expected to wrap up a £12million deal within the next few weeks

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Weird one as I would rather we had Cissokho than Baines anyway
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23 May 2012 11:58:54
a lot of different reports linking us with a move for baines
jred

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23 May 2012 11:56:57
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed the Serie A giants are on the brink of signing teenage midfielder Paul Pogba from Manchester United.

Marotta says discussions are in the advanced stages, with Juve waiting on an answer from the 19-year-old.

"We have lured him away from Manchester United," he told Corriere dello Sport.

"We respected the rules. Pogba, for his own reasons, didn't intend to renew.

"We informed the club and we are now waiting for an answer. Talks are well advanced."

jred

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Just read that myself, Good riddance is all i can say we want players who want to play for this club! Just hope his agent hasnt persuaded him to this move to line his own pockets!

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Golden opportunity to have blooded him in the first team this year missed as clearly Fergie didnt think he was up to it.

Think we all know this will come back to bite us on the arse :(

Halesini

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If they lured him away and he,s not renewing why are they waiting for an answer ?
johndenton

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This will not come back to bite us, Pogba will just waste his talent at Juventus. He won't get into the first team for a couple of years at least. Mark my words. He'll be another Macheda, rushing off to Italy thinking its the best "solution". We all know his agent Raiola is the reason he's going there. He's a good friend of Pavel Nedved's, he promised to deliver the player to Juventus (with a handsome return financially...). Nothing to do with playing first-team football. Pathetic really, if you ask me.

James.

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Why is everyone blaming Pogba ? Man Utd agreed a deal with Pogba regarding wages, Ferguson reported this a few weeks. His grubby slimey agent is filling up his wallet with over 1.5 million which United rightly refuse to pay out, so Pogba's agent is constantly persuading him to join Juventus.

I believe his heart is still with Man Utd, because he still hasn't officially signed with Juventus yet. They are constantly putting pressure on him with these announcements.

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23 May 2012 10:29:06
Lots of interesting rumours in the press today, and i suppose the first one to be tackled is the Hazard deal. Apparently he has agreed terms with us, City and Chelsea. Thats good news and i think that he will keep his side of the bargain this time and announce his decision on June 2nd. I will be delighted if he comes in. To be honest though, i think we will have a few deals in place before then, one of which will be Kagawa.

Secondly, there is the Michu rumour, who for £3 million would be worth the risk. From watching the occasional Rayo game against the bigger clubs, all I can say is that he is alright, but probably a one season wonder. I don't see his kind of form sticking, might be a bit of a poor move, especially he is the back up to someone like Kagawa as he does not have that class.

Then there is Lewandowski, its seems as though interest in him is real. He reminds me of Llorente as he is a big lad, strong and a good finisher. That seems to be the striker that we are looking for. I don't think we will get a striker though if we get Hazard, that may well be left until the following summer. Suitable targets I imagine would be Llorente, Damiao, Wolfswinkel and Lewandowski - they are all similar and seem to be the type of player that we are looking for.

Lastly, Leighton Baines. I can't say that I am too excited about this, i'm not sure how it will work. To be honest i think he is good in England, but outside of that he would be ripped apart. Even Downing can turn him, I don't think that he is much of an upgrade on Evra. For £8 million maybe then i'd say he is worth the risk, for for £12-15 million i don't think it will be money worth spent.

RedDevil19

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"much of an upgrade on Evra..."

He is nowhere near as good as Evra, never mind a step up. This would be a massive step backwards imo.

Absolutely not United material, at all.

Very disappointing if this happens.

Bob

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23 May 2012 10:17:30
Daily Mirror reports that United and Everton have agreed a fee for Leighton Baines. Thought to be in the region of £12 mill. This is a disgrace! He's not good, he is Liverpool standard!

Moen#7

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I agree 12m for baines how do scottish people put thats total piiish!

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He's not even liverpool standard enrique is far better

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Only good thing about him is he's English! But almost every player progresses under Fergie, lets wait and see.

A.R

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He's been in the fa team of the year 2 years running cant be a bad player and evra has been poor the last 2 seasons

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I disagree, he had a solid season

Voted Everton's 'player of the year' this season too.

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At least he can take a decent free-kick. Something we haven't had since Ronaldo left. I love Evra to bits and I appreciate the work rate of the twins but let's be honest, they don't contribute to goals or assists directly and not the best defenders in the world either, so Leighton Baines would be a good addition I reckon as he does score and get assists.

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Unbelievable statement that is and disrespectful to Everton and the player. He has been playing at a hight standard for a while now. sweet left peg, great for freekicks, penalties, gets on with the job, very Dennis irwinesq. Im a loyal red but also one that knows a bit of football aswell.

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I fid myself totally unimpressed with Baines although I am open to the fact that its possibly down to the boring and crap Moyes, Everything about Everton is grey

Pardoe

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Don't understand why nobody rates baines, cant remember too many people getting the better of him. I think he's attacking enough for us but also is tactically aware of what position he needs to be in (unlike evra on occasions).

Think its just because he's a fairly 'plain' player from a fairly 'plain' team would rather him over cissokho, alba & co.

Gpot7

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Sadly I think Baines is a better option than Evra at the moment and is 4 years younger. Not the ideal solution I grant you and preference would be to spend less money on a youngster who we could bring in over 3/4 seasons. Evra's legs have gove though in my view and he relied on his speed to get him back into position as he, rightly for a team like United, has a tendency to attack attack attack.

Fergie's Masterplan with this would be Baines / Evra sharing duties next year then Fabio being brought back from loan to be understudy to Baines following year and Evra put out to pasture.

I like Evra a lot. Tremendous respect for him as an individual. However that sentimental attachment to players will ultimately lose us titles let alone becoming a dominant force in terms of European Cup glory.

Halesini

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Haha people slating Barnes a proven premiership player but but go on about how amazing clyne is who's a proven championship player

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Good 1 i would rather have matt hummels he is a good cb

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There's been no contact between Man Utd and Everton for Baines. How many times have we heard of this Baines-to-Utd rumour? I can't see how Sir Alex can want a 28-yr-old defender, unless it is to wait for Fabio to develop. But at what cost? 12m? I find that hard to comprehend.

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The only reason people don't want him is because he does not have a fancy foreign name and is not the type of player you buy on FIFA or football manager. He's a solid full back IMO. Gets on with the job. {Ed004's Note - I don't want him because I don't think he is world class... He isn't quick or strong so anyone with either of those attributes will get by him easily. He isn't exactly young either so won't really improve...}

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Why do people feel the need to slate certain players? Poor Baines haha! He has now joined Bale on the 'slate these players even though if they played for United we would certainly be singing their praises' list

Fair enough if you don't think he is the answer to our LB and can give a reasoned argument but theres no need to slate him, lol

He's certainly not as poor as some make out and he is certainly better at defending than Evra (these days) and has a better final ball/shot. Not saying he's my 1st choice necessarily mind

Gav

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23 May 2012 09:58:28
Eds, all has gone quiet on the Pogba front. Is this because he's still mulling over what to do, or waiting until he can officially announce that he's going to Juve? Thanks.

#ags {Ed001's Note - he could announce an agreement with Juve at any time, so there is no reason for that announcement to be held off. Clearly he has not decided yet, though I am sure his agent is in his ear telling him to move.}

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Juve's sporting director has publicly stated that they expect to sign him. He claims that Pogba has refused to renew his contract and they're just waiting until they can officially announce it. Hopefully we can just put this to bed.

Danny Pughnited

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Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed the Serie A giants are on the brink of signing teenage midfielder Paul Pogba from Manchester United.
Red1

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23 May 2012 09:27:17
We are no longer in the negotiations stage. We have reached agreement with all parties.

"Eden has already said he wants it to be fixed before June 2. He will decide after the (Belgium) games against Montenegro and England then go on holiday with peace of mind."

Bico added: "Eden is in the reflections stage and a decision will be taken quickly.

"Those who have come forward have a one-in-three chance."
jred

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How can he decide after two different games?

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23 May 2012 08:04:03
The Hazard to Utd deal is far from done. It is reported that he has met, and agreed terms with 3 clubs (Utd, Chelsea, City) but has yet to decide which club it will be. He will announce his destination within the next 10 days.

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Yes we can all read the papers!

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Thats right his agent has said that he as agreed terms with chelsea ,us and city but will decide his destination after international friendlies

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So the club has agreed a fee with 3 clubs. Basically now it is about his wages. Thats us out of the running then

Mike the Moston Red

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I haven't. (to the above poster)

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23 May 2012 06:07:27
Michu, the highest-scoring midfielder in Spain last season, could move to the Premier League for as little as £3million this summer.

Rayo Vallecano’s financial problems mean the former Real Oviedo and Celta Vigo player, who hit 17 goals in 39 games, is available at significantly less than the club's original £8m asking price.

Manchester United scouts have been watching Michu, 26, and London-based agents DBW have also spoken with several other English clubs, including Liverpool, about him.

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23 May 2012 01:35:04
does anyone know if united is interested in Sahin?

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Guillem balague was on sky last night saying he's defanately staying at real Madrid

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I don't think so.He would be a class signing but Mourinho won't let him go.

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23 May 2012 01:26:16
Anyone else think Hazard, Kagawa, Baines, Clyne and Powell would be a brilliant transfer window for us? (i know anything could happen with Hazard)
Or do you think its asking too much? Ed?

J

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Baines definate NO

dont get suckered in he has no pace

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The more and more I hear I think it's gonna happen, powell and Kagawa seem it as well but not sure about barnes good player but not sure.

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I would be estatic if we got Hazard, Kagawa, Clyne, Baines and Powell.

Hazard would be the marquee signing we need. Kagawa is a great AM. Clyne was voted best RB in the Championship last season, Baines was voted best LB in the Premiership last season and Powell is supposedly the best thing to come out of Crewe's academy ever and he'd be one for the future.

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I do think we need a striker as well to be honest with berbs and owen leaving

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This would we good but 2 players from crewe, wow not

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We won't get Kagawa and Hazard. They are both wingers who have converted to 2nd strikers. I hope we get Kagawa for 12 million (15 million Euros), over Hazard for 32 million (40 million euros). I think Kagawa would fit in and is a team player. Hazard has fantastic potential and is already top class, but the money we'd spend on him would be better spent on central midfielders. What sounds better Hazard, or Kagawa and M'vila or Fellani?
Mik

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23 May 2012 00:44:38
Here's a thought, were supposedly gonna spend 30m+ on Hazard, and Porto and interested in signing Anderson for around 8m. How about we let Hazard play his games with some other club and we use the 30m and give it to Porto along with Anderson in exchange for James Rodriguez? They said he's not for sale but they'd have to consider a bid like that, we could even chuck abit more money in as we'd save a fortune on wages for Rodriguez compared to what we would have to pay Hazard, this way we would have a quality new player and more importantly one who wants to play for us.

Shappy

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Are you mad ? it wouldnt cost 30mil plus anderson for rodriguez thats extortion

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Do you not think SAF would want to spend £30m on Rodriquez if he thought he was better than Eden? Clearly that is not the case.. While i rate James Rodriguez highly i don't think he's worth that much.

Ozwald

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I disagree Shappy. I feel if Hazard chooses us, he would have thought thoroughly about his decision, ergo, him 100% wanting to play for us. One doen't move to a foreign country and learn a new language without considering all the options. He's only a boy, what were you doing at 21? I actually want him to take his time and make an educated and decide who he wants to play for. And if we spent 30 on Berbatov, I'd be so happy if he choses us and if he wants to move on down the road, I can see him being worth 50 plus million.
Cheers,
Sparty On

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Do you not think if James Rodriquez had all those clubs after him we wouldnt be in the same situation? I dont get what all the hate is for me? I honestly think Hazard will sign for us, I could be wrong but for you to say something like that without knowing a thing about Hazard or Rodriguez is a joke! why dont you just wait and see what happens before saying he doesnt want to play for us.

Big Mac

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Sparty On

You're bang on mate. If Hazard doesnt choose us then so be it but if he does then we know that his head is firmly at United and that he isnt just here for a pay cheque.

TK-Red

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I have to agree with TK-Red who thinks Sparty On was absolutely correct in what he said about Hazard wanting to make the right choice.
I think the only issue people have is that Hazard should make no comment at all until he makes his choice instead of constantly talking to the media.

J Bones.

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