Manchester United Rumours Archive July 25 2011

25 Jul 2011 23:48:15
Are the 3 signings the end of our transfer buys... Agree if u think they are disagree if u don't think they are... There are so many people saying they are and so many claiming they have heard a rumour this that and the other is joining... I disagree I think we will make at least 1 more signing but not till the end of transfer market

I don't think anyone on this site actually knows if we will sign another player but weve seen fergie buy a youngster if another team puts a bid in

25 Jul 2011 22:55:12
Fergie has said, the 5 experienced players gave him the budget to recruit 3 younger players. The Glazer budget control in full force....shameful comments for a club like United

I'd like to have a link to these comments coz as far as am concerned, he said nothing of the sort. the sneijder deal looks imminent and from what i've heard, utd are also looking at signing 2 other players to make it a total of 6 signings this summer.

"We lost five players in their 30s this summer, " he said. "That helped finance the three younger players - Ashley Young, Phil Jones and David de Gea - I have brought to the club.

"At this moment, I can't see another addition. The type of player we might have been looking for is not available.

"I am happy with the players I have got at this moment in time."

Sydney!

But he keeps on using the word 'Moment', so he is covering himself so he is able to change his mind in a week's time. Take anything he says now with a pinch of salt, we need a central midfielder because we are limited in that area, he said that himself.

Sydney!

I'm new to this site but felt the need to comment here. Surely what Sir Alex is meaning here is that the 5 who left free'd up both spots in the squad and room within the club wage budget to bring in the new players? It's not as if they sold to raise funds to buy, we've spent at least ��50 million and brought in very little, don't forget 3 out of those 5 retired rather than being sales. I don't see how these comments are "shameful for a club like United" as has been said. Think that is a tad over dramatic. {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site}

Cheers Ed. Have been reading here for a while, just nevermgot involved. Truth be told some of the United fans on here depress me a little with their endlessly negative attitudes Ps, Does the name I put in the name field not automatically come up as my sign off name? {Ed036's Note - Unfortunately not.}

Spot on Ed, from now on I'll sign off as the Neviller, so for anyone interested (not likely) those last 2 posts on were from me

The Neviller

About time some got real
It's not depressing but it's real it's fact it's a financial mess brought on us by the glazers means we can't buy big. Glazer spending limits can't you see that
The sooner we get rid of these yonks who only want to make money the better and those on here who just keep ignoring this just amaze me
KingE

No one likes the Glazers, but I doubt money is much of an issue, it's more to do with identifying the right player. United with the Glazers in-charge or not would not pay well over the odds for a player. We are not Liverpool.

Sydney!

Every club and business has to control wage costs and the age structure

variable costs.

Only Man City and chelsea are immune from this

25 Jul 2011 20:25:42
Ive heard that SAF will retire in the next 3 years and will be replaced by Jose Mourinho as he has always wanted the job even before Chelsea came knocking 7 years ago

Where have you heard this mr unkown?
or as SAF told you personally
ARB

Don't want Mourinho's boring style of football.

Red Daz.

This source is a good friend of the man himself so take it from me it is true

Not only is this a "guess" we could all make, Mr Unknown has given us 3 yrs to see if his "guess" is right..... I'll be waiting with baited breath.... Just enjoy what time we have left with the greatest football manager in the world, when he does decide to retire, and I don't think even he knows for definate, there will be some big shoes left to fill.
Mitch

I'd like to respond and say this comes from a 'very' close friend of the man himself {Ed007's Note - What man, AF or Mourinho??}

So three years? I think thats the same figure that was quoted on that channel 4 documentary last week. Are you close friends with channel 4?

Also, of course mourinho would want the job United are one of the biggest clubs in the world, who wouldn't want the job.

I agree with Mitch, just enjoy it and we'll see what happens

Rosco

25 Jul 2011 20:10:39
"At this moment in time, I can't see another addition. The player we need is not available to us, we'll get on with what we have" - Sir Alex

So is it Modric, Sneijder or nasri the great man refers to? {Ed036's Note - Sneijder, as I can't see us getting either of the other two, and the number of times he's said "at this moment in time" insinuates that there may well be developments yet this summer.}

Agree Ed. Sneijder is the one Fergie has identified, and lets be fair, he is the closest to Scholes out there. I wish I were Batman or Spiderman, I'd get the sod right now

Sneijder is good but not the same as scholes as he can pass but not on scholes' level. Modric is closer as he plays on more of a rounded midfielding spectrum but I fear that chelsea may of got him first.

Sneijder is the perfect player for Utd. He may not have the range of Scholes, but when it comes to the final third he is the best passer in the world. Yes, better than Scholes and Xavi. He would bring the creativity we have lacked in the middle for the last 2-3 years.

25 Jul 2011 18:32:17
Man utd WILL sign a new midfielder.

It's either Nasri or Sneijder or perhaps both.

Ferguson is interested in both players

25 Jul 2011 17:07:47
mario balotelli, there's a man that his arrogance and ego far outweigh his talent.

And you my friend are someone who's ignorance outweighs your anonymity..RAINFISHTROMBONE

Give the guy a break. It was a pre season friendly and the guy was trying to entertain and enjoy himself. Had Ronaldo done that when he was at the club we would all be laughing about it. Balotelli can be judge harshly for alot of things but this aint one of them.

TK-Red

RAINFISHTROMBONE

you saying balotelli is any good, cos that would mean your short sightedness far outweighs you talent to spot a footballer.

Tk-Red you are spot on with that. Some of Balotelli's actions are rightly criticised but you can't really criticise him too much for the backheel. His disrespect after being subbed should be criticised more so.

Rjmanutd

Gary Cook is the one with a degree in arrogance. At least Balotelli has talent...

Balotelli excessive arrogance and ego??
Well suited to Manchester Sh*tty then
Mike B.

Mate atleast sign your name to such rubbish. Whether we like him or not the kid is massively talented. However, unfortunately, genius tends to bring an equal measure of insanity. And Im not just talking about the day he signed for City. Played in the right team and managed in the right way the guy could be a world beater.

TK-Red

Wouldn't want him anywhere near United. That is a headache we could do without.

Rincewind

The guys ability to be a person far outweigh his talents with a ball

THE MUFFIN MAN

Genius tends to bring an equal measure of insanity

that would be fair if he was anything other than average

Anything other than average? Switch off match of the day and go and watch an actual football match sometime.

TK-Red

Balotelli is difficult, petulant, immature, arrogant, irritating etc. However he had a very unusual childhood that would test anyone's sanity. He is also a couple of weeks short of his 21st birthday.

If he can keep his head together he has the potential to become one of the best strikers in Europe. Let's just hope he isn't still playing for shi**y if that happens.

Ryan.

25 Jul 2011 16:51:04
Wesley Sneijder deal is getting there, there is a minor sticking point at the moment though. Inter want part of Sneijder's Image rights for the next three years I'm told, and United are obviously having none of that. Deal will get there but it's taking alot of time. Wesley want's to come but doesn't want to come out and say it incase the deal fails. The Inter fans would turn on him and he doesn't want that. Plus if he asks for a transfer he forfeits his loyalty bonus, which I'm told would be about 3-5 million Euro's maybe more. Also staff (of a high level) at United are making preparations for his transfer, there's going to be some kind of major marketing scheme for when he signs. That's all I've been told at the moment. I will definately post more If/when I get it. Believe

United Till I Die 1987

The deal is done already. we are just waiting to announce when Inter say we can.

OK United Till (sic) I Die 1987, we'll wait patiently for more of your insider updates.

Maybe you should get your own TV channel to rival SSN.

This is the most believable rumour I have read. Because I have heard something similar.

This is the most believable rumour I have read. Because I have heard something similar.

Looks like you've been getting your 'info' from twitter, especially off M16_0RA timeline. no one knows whats going to happen especially with Inter not wanting to reduce asking price and Utd not wanting to up their offer.

I dont know y every1s gettin worked up by de snijder transfer we dont need him. swienstiger is de player to buy.hes defensive wich is wat we need .if we got him and nasri free next year wit young and valencia down de wings we would be class

Haha. I can assure you I don't get my 'info' from twitter. It is quite possibly the most unreliable place to read transfer gossip/rumours, well besides goal.com. Also to whoever said it's already done it's not, it's near but not quite there. There are still a few minor detail to 'iron out' if you will.

United Till I Die 1987

25 Jul 2011 16:18:54
I?� ve heard that Sir Alex is looking at the possibility to sign Marvin Martin after glowing reports from Laurent Blanc.

Laurent Blanc's last recommendation didn't exactly set the world on fire...

He's looking to move, but has stated he wants to stay in france though

Blanc didnt recommend signing obertan, he said he didnt think he was good enough or something like that

corby12

He said he was surprised when we bidded for him and that he didn't expect it at all

Actually obertan is a good player who just needs a consistent run in the side to increase his confidence. his performance in saturday's game on the US tour was very promising. he's definitely a better prospect than gibbo.

Starvin Marvin ?? was'nt he on that southpark cartoon once?? HERBIE

25 Jul 2011 13:50:38
Evra has successfully convinced Nasri to join Man Utd and to snub Man City and to reject Arsenal's new contract. Nasri should join man utd in the near future, followed by Pastore.

Why is it that some people believe everthing in the papers.

Why is it that some people write these stories after they appear in the paper.

jenny

Well done youve read a story in the sun newspaper and come out with this rubbish. i think SAF does his own talking to transfer targets and doesnt leave it up to there so called best mate

Of course Sir Alex would use Evra if he wanted to... makes sense, here Pat, have a word wi'ur wee mate about leaving nil and coming to a great team. You dont think that goes on, of course it does. RD73

I hit believable to this rumour as was only reading the nasri bit.........pastore will not be moving to old trafford...end off

Robbo

25 Jul 2011 13:27:04
Ed. Do we have a chance of getting modric? I know he said he'd rather stay in London but it's looks like Chelsea are in for pastore so cud that leave the path clear for us to snap up modric for 35 million or so
Djay {Ed007's Note - Djay, Sydney and Ed002 are having an ongoing discussion about Modric right now. The thread started at: 25 Jul 2011 10:33:47. That should help you out mate.}

25 Jul 2011 11:47:57
If we get Sneijider, does SAF play him as a midfielder in front of Carrick with 2 wingers and Rooney & Chico up front?
Sneijider and Carrick are not a strong middle 2. They would not be a patch on Keano & Scholes. If he does get sneijider would he have to change formation to accomodate him? SAF likes his wingers so I can't see him changing this.
Giggs and Carrick were destroyed in midfield against Barca. SAF will not make this mistake again. There is no way he will buy Sneijider as an attacking midfielder. He will only be bought for Rooney's position
Nasri would be a better AM (and cheaper-especially next summer). Anderson will be given a good opportunity in this position this year but should be sold next year if he does not show what he is capable of consistently.
What we need is an outstanding defensive midfielder - it will allow SAF to mix and match players if front of the DM knowing the centre-backs are always covered. It is going to be interesting to see how SAF overcomes this problem.

J Bones.

Sneijder would be a great signing but i understand what you are saying i tink there could b a surprise yet

For once a well thought out post, not the usual we are buying Sneijder, Modric, Pastore, Nasri & Sanchez bull***t, personally i think Sneijder is to expensive at ��35 million plus ��10 million a year for 5 years. ��80/85 million is just to much for a 27 year old with very little resale value. Middleton Red.

I dont understand where this resale value comes from if you splash out ��80/��85 million on a player over 5 years if that player makes you successful by winning the premier league, fa cup or champs lge over that period then they will get a large majority of the money back so for me that shouldn't come anywhere near the transfer

Answer to that is u dont play carrick at all y wud u wen got ando and fletch. carrick is a mid table player at best

I like ur theory. I would suggest getting Lass Diarra from Madrid or tiote from New Castle. Even tho I wud luv to see Sneijder at OT this season.

I understand where you are coming from with winning trophies but you then pay massive win bonuses. The F.A cup only generates a few million, champs league approx 15/20 million, the bulk of the money comes from winning the Premiership & the Sky tv money. I seem to recall all members of the squad recieved equal amounts for each point gained in europe, same in the Prem. Dont forget Rooney earns approx ��10 million a season without any bonuses etc, now double that if we sign Sneijder & i think we maybe stretching ourselves a bit. Back to the resale again, if we could sell Sneijder( example) for ��20 million after 5 years we would recoup around 2 years of his wages, but Sneijder will be 32 in 5 years & virtually worthless which is why Nasri would be my preffered choice, he is only 23 so in say 5 years at 28 years old would still command a decent fee if re-sold. Middleton Red.

25 Jul 2011 10:33:47
"{Ed002's Note - There is a chance that Sneijder will sign. I suspect one or two others are being looked at as well.}"

Are Pastore and Nasri among those one or two Ed002? Is the Nasri deal completely dead?

REDFAITH

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to commit to saying who may be being looked at but understand that Manchester United have not made any move for Pastore. It would be interesting to see what happens with Modric. I suspect the Nasri saga hangs on what happens with Fabregas and what Arsenal do to try to hand on to Nasri.}

I am really happy to hear that we haven't made a move for Pastore Ed002. I agree that the Nasri saga will depend on what Arsenal do to hang on to him. The really interesting thing to me as well is Modric. What would Tottenham do if United put in a bid of 35mil and Jonny evans or maybe even berbatov?

Do you think there is still a chance of Modric Ed002? Modric and Nasri deals being still on may well be the reason why interest is cooling in Sneijder, or is it?

REDFAITH {Ed002's Note - I suspect there is a chance of Modric and would have thought a bid such as you have suggested may be possible. I doubt that they would want DB back though.}

I've always thought Sneijder & Modric have been our main targets SAF has praised Modric before but the lads desire to stay in London probably kills the deal.
I think the Nasri interest came out of the blue when he announced he was not going to sign another contract.
I think Arsenal would prefer to sell Nasri to City, they can then label him greedy.
If he comes to us it sends the wrong message to their squad if he has to move to win trophies.
If we don't sign any of these 3 I don't think we will sign anyone this window.
AJK

Perhaps SAF is hoping the Chelsea interest is ended so we can swoop in to save Modric from a year of hell at Spurs. I always thought Harry would rather sell to us rather than Chelsea, I know the fans feel that way too. The big question is whether Chelsea want Pastore and Modric, or just one or the other?

Ed002, is there anyway you can find that out mate?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of any deal for Modric and am not of any inclination to enquire. What information there has been is based on conjecture and statements from Redkapp when pressed by "reporters". Hence this is not carried by news agencies or reputable publications.}

Ed002 - Sorry mate, when you have said in the past about you know of no known interest, I thought you meant that it is a different person at the club that wants the player who you don't have no ties too. I didn't think you meant it was all construed by mad Arry.

Surely Modric's agent would know of Chelsea interest though? So Ed are you telling me it could all be nonsense and Chelsea are not even interested in him? Or did interest die down when Boas arrived?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I think I have made myself clear about Modric.}

Ed002 - So it's obvious that Spurs are trying to sell Modric off, rather than being stubborn to keep him? Are they hoping United come in with a stupendous offer? What do you think are Spurs' motives here? In your opinion of course?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I have no idea whether they wish the player be sold or not. I also suspect that Manchester United do not come in to their thoughts particularly, but if he wishes to leave an if another club matches the fee they desire then I expect he will be sold. I don't think anyone outside England or Russia would match their evaluation.}.

That's why I said United Ed, because he is not going to want a move to Russia, none of the teams abroad would pay ��30m+ for Modric. So realistically it can only be United or City or he remains at Spurs. Harry knows he is the ideal Scholes replacement, we know he needs to sell before he can buy so I seriously think he has used Chelsea as a pawn because they do not comment on speculation, therefore they won't deny making a bid. SAF & Mancini would both deny making a bid and would ruin Harry's con.

I believe United could make a final hour bid for Modric then? But who knows? Possible player/s plus cash? I guess Nasri, Sneijder & Modric are all still within the realms of possibility.

Sydney!

Sydney!,

I think you're close in saying Modric is being used as a pawn by Harry, but not quite in the way you think. Harry is at loggerheads with Daniel Levy over the release of transfer funds (and wages) for new signings. I think the Modric situation is being used by Harry to force Levy's hand (either prove-we're-a-big-club-and-we-mean-it or let-me-buy-and-then-I'll-sell). My view remains that the latter will end up happening - Spurs will sign two decent "name" players then sell Modric near the end of the window, with Levy maximising the fee. Levy is very shrewd and very sensible - but he plays the media well. He won't particularly care where Modric goes as long as he gets ��35m and it's not Arsenal.

DarkLard08

Modric is not worth more than ��25 million, he is a good player but doesn't score or assist anywhere near enough for what we need. Sneijder would be the perfect player, but Pastore is the best in the world for his age in his position by a mile. Personally I think Anderson will be a key player this season, and with Pogba coming in through the ranks it makes me question if the CM area is really as weak as many think?

For me it would be Sneijder, Pastore or nobody. Cheeky punt for Scott Parker as backup to fletcher perhaps?

Ive said before that SAF should give a chance to an unknown e.g. Cleverly as he scored goals at wigan and he is not going to cost millions as he is brought up by the club and others brought in worth millions in wages

25 Jul 2011 09:49:52
SAF no more signings:

Personaly i am glad we have loads of options in the centre of the park ie.
Carrick, Giggs, Fletcher, Anderson.

do you think we will sell Gibson and Kuschaz?

Love this site

100% sure mate, there is no turning back now after accepting Sunderland's Gibson bid. Gibson doesn't have a future at United. Kuszczak was left behind with Johnstone going to the US instead of him. Kuszczak has already said he is going.

SAF has been playing Gibson at CB in the reserves. I think that's his way of saying he should accept the next move or get used to playing out of position in the reserves every week.

Sydney!

How can you be happy with that midfield Its just not good enough to push any top teams let alone Barcalona.

Giigs is nearly 38 won't play week in/out clevely not ready yet, fletch still not ready after virus, carrick is good and then anderson is abit injury prone.

we need another midfielder or two

The same options we had when Barca taught us a lesson @ Wembley Get real mate we need to sign a world class midfielder. let us hope to god the "no value in the market" is not wheeled out again

Yea you lot are right it is not the best, but what if we play a 4 2 3 1 formation

Carrick Fletcher holding

Nani Rooney Young

Hernandez

What do u guys think?

Thanks

I think this guy is looking at our midfield against teams in the US and thinks we look good but our midfield is still weak.

Red Knight.

Ok maybe so.
Who would u want in midfield Red Knight?

I'm still not convinced that Giggs will stay another year. Fergie may be looking for TWO MF players, but does not want to pay top dollar. If Scholes and Giggs went, then the prices would soar, because we would be seen as in a corner. I did a Pod cast to the USA recently where I mentioned these thoughts

25 Jul 2011 04:40:28
Guys read the post of michael artherton of espn soccernet, , 'THE POWER OF PHIL BROWN'...a very good article on who our next manager should be..
surz

Anything that calls football "soccer" is nonsense.

DarkLard08

David Moyes will be our next longterm manager.

God I hope not Moyes plays boring and dour football

Pardoe

I think that Jose mourinho will be brought in to replace SAF as he has the history and form for it 2 champs league wiv 2 very average teams and he also nows how to buy cheap and big

25 Jul 2011 02:35:20
how come its only when a piece of news or gossip goes onto a site such as bbc sport that people are telling us about what their friends and family know, such as this barton nonsense. surely if these folk did know about barton signing they would have known before the sunday times released this rumour??

25 Jul 2011 02:33:43
SAF isn't going to spend money in this transfer window on another midfielder to replace Scholes

On the contrary, s have Joey Barton at 2/1 to ManU. Worth every penny at 6m I reckon.

Barton.......well that is a massive pile of rubbish he is not a scratch on Paul scholes and he used to play for city so would not go down well.