Manchester United Rumours Archive October 27 2012

27 Oct 2012 23:43:35
I'm starting to think that Nani could be on his way out, I'm still highly sceptical of it being media bull, but I can admit defeat. This isn't to say that I don't rate him, because I do, I still rate him as possibly the best winger on the planet, but AF doesn't seem to like him.

This brings me to the reason for my post, I believe firmly that if Nani leaves to say Real or AC, within 12 - 18 months he will be one of the very finest players on the planet. I can see a lot of people on here changing their tune drastically! Anyway, that's my prediction IF he leaves. Mark my words.

Percy

I doubt it.

G.A.G.U.S

Brilliant, the best winger on the planet?! Ronaldo, hazard, mata, Valencia, di Maria, Sanchez are all alot better than cant beat a player just gets tackled all the time nani.
Carl

Ridiculous. He is not the best winger on the planet or for that matter within a mile of it. His poor decision making of what pass to pick and when will always hold him back.
Red_Ads

Percy I can see him being nothing but mediocre, brill one day and utter rubbishe the next nine

Pardoe

Obviously I was discounting Ronaldo. Other than that, Nani is superior to all those named.

Percy

Nani is superior to my right testicle, not my left

Jaxer

Percy, i am about to say something very mean, but you deserve it.

you are as deluded, and making as much sense, as a liverpool supporter, commonly refered to on this page as " scouser "

Mick

May be we can get ozil + cash for Nani from Madrid {Ed002's Note - Not a chance.}

Jaxer

Tell her to slow down.

G.A.G.U.S

You guys forgot Navas, Rodriguez, Muinian and quite a few more. Percy if you are good SAF plays you and it is not a personal thing. He is absolutely ineffective and useless to the team. Real will not be interested one bit mate and AC Millan is rubbish at the moment and short of players and attacking options and hence the interest.

Shahram

I recommend Nani's second half performance on Tuesday as vital viewing to indicate the level he is at. Frankly he should have been substituted again before the end as he was so poor. He just kept losing the ball.
If you can get hold of his warm up in the interval then that would show him exchanging passes with one of the coaches however Nani's short passes didn't go to the coach.

Nani is not in the top ten wide player list and we will be lucky to get �20m for him. We should have sold last summer before his decline became glaringly obvious, now we face a loss financially and of face because he is poor. Finally I seriously doubt Real or any of the top clubs will want Nani.

Red Man

Why would anyone change their tune? If he can't do the job here then he goes.Maybe he does better at another club, why would that be of any real importance to Utd fans.Players come and go some will do better or worse for themselves and their clubs,that is life accept it.

We've seen true moments of brilliants from Nani, some seasons he's been fantastic and with that he earnt the fans player of the year award.

Form is temporary well class is permanent.

Ozwald

Yeah but he is f****n s**t for united so sell him now and get the highest possible price

I fail to see how anyone believes Nani can get better by going to another team. He just doesn't have 'it'.

One of Fergie's worst signings.

Nani - please take Anderson with you when you go.

I appreciate Nani CAN have some great touches, flair play and good games. However, if you can only produce that 2 games a season then really what is the point ?

His self-opinion that he's one of the best players in the world just shows how woefully he is off the mark in all things!

Halesini

Pardoe

You are bang on.Brilliant for one game then utter crap for nine.You could forgive 1 in 3 or even 1 in 4 but 1 in 10 is nowhere near good enough.

Gareth bale please!

Nani is no were near utd quality he rarly beats his man and when he does his delivery is week or dosnt beat the defender let alone test the keeper corners dont beet 1st defender and fk dont beat the wall or go blazing over and that goes for valencia to

Though I don;t think Nani is the best winger on the planet (Messi, Ronaldo and Pedro spring to mind), he is better than 90%+. Rodriguez and Muinian are one season wonders and may or may not grow to become superior to nani, they are certainly not in his league yet.Navas is on the same level as nani. Nani has had a positive effect for United, (for doubters look at his stats), but Young has done nothing. If we were to sell a winger Young should be the one to go, in fact I think he was a poor buy in the first place.Except for Giggs, who is clearly past it, Nani is the only winger who usues his left foot at OT and is in fact closer to being 2 footed than all our wingers. Valencia, who on his day is excellent, has the weakest left foot of any right footed player at OT. There are so few players who have a deep loyalty to us and who are top class, it would be a joke to part with Nani
Mik.

The only part of your post that was slightly even true was the first sentance.

melwing28

27 Oct 2012 20:39:42
Unfortunately i think Fergie will end up playing Scholes and Giggs with Carrick in midfield. He will go down the route of experience is key for big games. Which is true. However neither Scholes or Giggs are not much use for more than 20 mins and Scholes usually starts making mad tackles which i put down to fustration and not being able to get/up down the pitch like he once used to.

Giggs on the other trys to do to much and gets tackled. Cleverley, Anderson Fletcher would be ideal pace, energy, enthusiasm and would link up well with RVP Rooney and Chica/Wellbeck. Otherwise Rooney will end up dropping further back to help the midfield out if Scholes and Giggs play.

Mad Hatter

If I see scholes giggs and carrick starting tomorrow then I'll scream........surely fergie has to see that we need speed and power in midfield.......Anderson cleverly Valencia Rooney Rvp and hernandez

If we start those 3 in the middle we will get beat, and beat well.....

oxred

Nooooooooooooo...

AJH

I think Fergie learnt from the last time that he can't afford to put those 2 on at the same time. You talk about experience but we have Fletcher back and he has that. I think we will have Fletcher with Carrick and possibly Scholes, although I would rather play Cleverley or even Anderson who I think would do well with 2 players sitting behind him

If he starts with those 3 in the middle then we will get beaten heavily. I would think that even SAF, with his unrelenting faith in the old guard, can see that. We shouldn't be starting with Scholes OR Giggs. We don't have enough pace in the side, without wingers, to play on the counter attack so we need our midfield to play a high energy game further up the pitch. That may leave us open to the likes of Hazard and Torres getting in behind but if we sit deep then Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Torres and Ramires will just pass their way through us. Thats my take anyway, although I think SAF will sit deep and aim to come away with a point.

TK-Red

This post summarises our midfield woes:
Scholes and Giggs, legends that they are, are too old for the Prem now, especially in the big games. We will continue to get taken apart my teams who press high up the pitch or are very direct at running at our midfield.

Cleverly - no issue with Clevs even tho he has his doubters. Part of our midfield for many years ahead.

Anderson - just not Premier League class let alone United class. Yes he has energy vital for our midfield but I plainly do not believe he has enough skill and vision to be part of a United midfield we hope can dominate in both Prem and Europe.

Halesini

If he plays Scholes and Giggs then he has lost his marbles and I will be looking forward to a new manager coming in sooner rather than later

27 Oct 2012 13:28:22
Just read an interesting article that Marca TV have repeatedly reported that a deal has been struck between United and Guardiola to take over next season.

The report says that had it been the paper you could take it with a pinch of salt but the TV channel don't usually resort to telling stories just for the sake of it!

It also says that Guardiola could come in as early as January to shadow SAF.

It also claims that the meeting in America earlier in the year was attended by a couple of the Glazers? Apparently they want to strike a deal earlier so he didn't sign for anyone else (Chelsea or City!)

What's our thoughts then gents?

I think this would be great and if he did come in Jan then that would be a really smart move.

I try to take all rumours light heartedly but this one has for me excited.

Ports

Ports

I posted this back in May (firstly on 6th May and a little more firmly a bit later) and it came from an interesting source.

Red Man

Pep would be the dream - he would bring in some great players and he isn't worried to spend money or give youth a chance. I could really see him building a dynasty. He'd have a good crop of young players to work with too as well as some world class experience.

Fresh!

Red Man

What's your thoughts on it?

Fresh!

I agree, people can say he was lucky with the group of players he had but Rijkaard had the same players and look at how they're playing under this new player, they're not what they were I don't believe as under Pep!

Ports

Ports

I am a Mourinho advocate.

Guardiola left Barcelona for a rest? My concern is how he would cope not just with being coach but Manager in a very tough goldfish bowl and following SAF will be very tough.

Guardiolas buys in the market could be seen to be questionable , the Ibrahomovitch deal was astonishing. Still the football his team plays is sensational.

Mourinho for me, but Guardiola and running alongside SAF for a while is what I heard in May plus possibly Ole involved at some point

Red Man

I think he is perfect for the job! Yes he had great players but I honestly think he could do the same with our youth players. Who is to say that Wilson, Daehli, Pereira etc couldn't be as good as Iniesta, Xavi (Messi is a one off). He understands the game as well as anyone and comes from a club very similar to ours.

Dan

Its as simple as this .... 2 managers - pep and jose ..... 3 jobs .... city - utd - chelsea all within 2 yrs max.

I honestly believe if we had won the league last year Pep would be manager now. He isn't leave Barca for a rest, he left to join united (it was around the time tat it looked like united would do it).

Of course we all know hat happened, hence the year off and ence fergie being allowed to buy RVP. He wants number 20 more than anything, but of daylight between us and scousers (not that we need it) and then he'll be off.

If it don't happen this year that's it, but he's been given a year to go out on top.

DanW

If he comes then hopefully he could bring one of Busquets or Fabregas with him!

I too am not convinced he wants a rest. He wants to learn English and prepare - familiarise himself more with the League and tie up the loose ends. Even if he did want a rest, he would be entitled to one. He went from playing career, to coaching and then to management! It was a good 25 years of his life solidly involved in football.

Fresh!

If only. The two managers that I would want at Utd are Guardiola or Bielsa. Either would be phenomenal. We need not just to keep up with the rest, but play a style of football that is cutting edge. Sir Alec has always innovated and moved with the times, but short of another ten years of cyborg Ferguson, Guardiola would be the (second) best possible option. His youth is a huge plus, and a Guardiola team is one that could be picked up and improved on by any manager in the "Barcelona" school.

Mourinho would be a great stop-gap, he'd win us a trophy faster than any other manager but who knows what type of legacy he could give?

I'm with Fresh! Perhaps it wasn't so much of a rest from football then a good break before taking the biggest job in football. A little time to prepare?

TK-Red

It will be a sad day when sir Alex retires. It's hard to see anyone surpass what he's done or even get close. Pep is a very good coach and that itself could prove to be priceless.

Not too sure about that last post. Surely being at Barca is one of only a coupke of more difficult jobs than being at united

I think taking over from Sir Alex is the most difficult job that any manager will ever have. Maybe that's what TK-Red meant.

Da Rob Man

27 Oct 2012 10:45:10
Again linked with Ashley Cole.

Would you all like to see him play here ?

Obviously he's better than what we have, but he's almost 32.

That means surely Evra has to depart.

It's not going to happen. I don't know where this talk keeps coming from but its very unrealistic.

Ozwald

Surely the signing of RVP should have made us all stand up and take notice that anything is possible in football!
Even if he is nearly 32, he is still on top of his game unlike others who have started to decline. He would be a real asset with his experience and class.

Dont want cole at united wud cost to much in wages an is getting on, plus i just dont like the guy from his arsenal days!

Don't want him here!? If he improves us then yeah take him, whatever that means. I hate him but would strengthen us down the left. Even at 32, he has a similar physique to Giggs so could have a good 3 to 4 years left in him