Manchester United Rumours Archive November 02 2010

 

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02 Nov 2010 23:44:33
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EDITOR AFTER FERGIE ADMITTING CHECKING OUT SANCHEZ'S PRIVATE LIFE, DO YOU THINK UNITED ARE ON THE BRINK OF SIGNING HIM? {ed's note - I would say so, yes, if Fergie can get the money together.}

@Ed i also think a Macheda loan deal could clinch this deal, what do you think? {ed's note - I think that would be a plus for Udinese, but can United really afford to lose a striker? Isn't Owen leaving in the summer already?}

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02 Nov 2010 23:35:25
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AGENT CONFIRMS UNITED CONTACT WITH "NEXT RONALDO"

Sport.co.uk can exclusively reveal that Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is interested in bringing Udinese winger Alexis Sanchez to Old Trafford with the player's agent confirming United have made contact regarding a deal.

Ferguson has been tracking the talented youngster since Cristiano Ronaldo left Old Trafford for Real Madrid and 21-year-old has been earmarked for a bright future having been nicknamed "El Ni?±o Maravilla, " which translates as the wonder boy.

The Udinese faithful have taken to the wonder boy following a string of fantastic performances this campaign, with Sanchez becoming a cult hero at Udinese for his trickery and pace.

Sanchez also endeared himself to Ferguson with a number of glittering performances at the World Cup in South Africa performing in all four of Chile's games.

The player's agent Fernando Felicevich told Sport.co.uk in an exclusive interview:

"Yes they (Manchester United) are watching him, and it could be a possibility in the future.

"I have heard that another Premier League club also enquired, but they didn't contact me. For the time being the only thing I have heard is from Manchester United. " He continued.

"The Premier League is a very interesting destination for Alexis (Sanchez) but it is only Manchester at the moment. The price? I don't know, it is up to the club, it is not for me to discuss transfer fees.

"I think his style is perfect for the Premier League, he is very fast, very young, and strong, which I think you need to succeed in the Premier League."

Valued in the region of £15-20 million Sanchez is one of the Red Devils top targets with the Old Trafford chief singing the player's praises.

Ferguson said earlier this year: "He's a young player with a very promising future, " said Ferguson.

"Sanchez has so much talent, that if he continues his progression, he could reach the level of Cristiano Ronaldo."

Sanchez has been likened to Manchester United legend Ronaldo, both in ability and appearance, and although still learning his trade, the 21-year-old was one of the finest young players at the World Cup.

Reports during the World Cup suggested the player would love to engineer a move to Manchester United in January, and also told teammates in the summer it is his dream to play at Old Trafford.

One of his Chile teammates is quoted by Imscouting.com, saying: "All Alexis wants is to play for Manchester United, "

"He'd give anything for that."

EDITOR AFTER FERGIE ADMITTING CHECKING OUT SANCHEZ'S PRIVATE LIFE, DO YOU THINK UNITED ARE ON THE BRINK OF SIGNING HIM? {ed's note - I would say so, yes, if Fergie can get the money together.}

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02 Nov 2010 23:04:35
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Editor, do you think there could be a deal involving Berbatov going to Bayern Munich with Schweinsteiger coming the other way? Berbatov plus 10-15m would be enough and Bayern knows he can play well in the German league. Or Berbatov plus 15m for Dzeko?

Surely there is some deals to be made Ed? What do you think? {ed's note - I think the question is more whether you could persuade those players to come to England.}

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02 Nov 2010 22:21:08
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Van der Sar is definitely capable of going one more season as our number one. So instead of looking to buy overpriced keepers we should go all out to buy Gareth Bale. He's the most promising young player in Europe never mind the EPL. Ryan.

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02 Nov 2010 20:10:26
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United forever - i agree in parts mate. i rate fabio as a decent cover for evra and also we have oshea that can do a job there. midfield is defo the key area. Pretty sure carrick and parks days are numbered. i think cleverly will get a crack of the whip when he comes back. diouf will go, as will owen and i totally agree about berba. theres a few rumours doing the rounds but i think this will be the team next year.

gk - de gea
lb - evra
rb - rafa
cb - vidic
cb - rio/ evans
dm - fletcher
dm - defour
lw - nani
rw - valencia
am - modric
st - wazza

alot will dpend on rio s fitness.

As for bale, dzeko etc, we all know the days of 25mill plus players are over for us for a few years. the glazers couldnt beleive their luck with the 80mill they got for ronaldo. i personally think they are giving it back to s.a.f over 3 years so they don't have to divert funds from anywhere else.

but keep the faith! S.A.F is the best manager in the buisness. he knows what hes doin and lets face it, he has a plan that we couldnt even dream of guessing!

jamesmack8

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02 Nov 2010 19:57:59
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Just a question, who do you guys think will be uniteds new no.7 when owens contract runs out, your opinion ed? {ed's note - if you can afford him, my money would be on Sanchez.}

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02 Nov 2010 19:09:16
Obertan and smalling start today

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02 Nov 2010 18:47:42
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Rite im new to this so here i go

personally i think that the glazers need to pull there finger out, they need to put sum money aside just for one season at least (as there trying to save cash) and invest in the team

we need a new keeper not to sure who but i wud love to see de gea, lloris or akinfeev (lindergaard cheaper option)

personally i think sir al will not change his defence, maybe a younger left back to replace/compete with evra thoughts??

midfield is the big one for me, defour is a cert in my opinion everyones talking bout bastian from munich but i don't see it. im thinking sir al will stick with alot of his youth obertan, gibson etc but just add a midfielder or 2 not 2 sure who but id love to see hamsik, young, bale or de rossi, cud see a cheaky bid for coutinho from inter as a potential star ur thoughts??

i think the only striker that needs replacing is berbatov im sorry but his price was inflated beyond belief and age isn't on his side not 2 sure how much we wud get for him and to be honest who wud u replace him with?? sir al loves giving his youth a go so macheda and hernandez will be given more of a starting role. wud love to see dzeko cum in but he wud cost alot. i know u might laugh and i aint 2 sure on age but i think carroll of newcastle wud be a cheeky shot but see how he does until the summer

sorry bout any spelling mistakes haha aint the best

any input wud be appreciated
thanks
united forever

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02 Nov 2010 16:14:19
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"Now if the Glazers took out this 95m which you are convinced they will, then United WILL not be able to meet the new financial regulations and will be banned from European competitions. So which is it? Are the Glazers going to take out the dividends and damage the club OR are they not going to damage the club by leaving the dividends alone?

What is it Darks?

Sydney!"

Fair question, Sydney!. You made me get up off my backside and go and read the UEFA Fair Play directives.

The first headline point is that the rules only come into play in 2014 based on results from the 2011/12 and 2012/13 reporting periods, i.e. anything that happens between now and June 2011 doesn't get counted. So I guess that makes the next 8 months the "danger" period for the big dividends (£70m & £25m) getting drawn. (Before 2014 the rules are not mandatory).

I think I've been consistent in saying that I expect United to break even 2014 onwards, with smaller losses in 2013. Having said that, a loss of up to about £50m would appear to be OK according to the rules - on the list of items that are excluded from costs for consideration are:

"Depreciation / impairment of intangible fixed assets" - which is later expanded to be described as including "amortisation of goodwill" - there's £33m per year of this on United's books.

Also excluded are youth development, community projects and tax expenses. At a wild guess, I'd go for £15m - £20m on this from a MUFC standpoint (out of the £60m+ "other expenses" they report).

So that's some leeway in the figures.

Sydney! - I think I've been consistent in saying that I don't think the Glazers will drive United to the wall - which actually makes it so much harder to shift them. And I'd like to categorically exempt you from any implied criticism in my last post (just in case you took any offence).

DarkLard08

02 Nov 2010 16:14:11
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Plz plz plz plz don't dontsign bale unless we pay 15mil or less tops anything more is a complete rip off plz plz fergie don't sign him for anything more or not at all

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02 Nov 2010 14:55:25
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Thank you DarkLard08 for your excellent post though we disagree about David Gill who does what for his £2 million a year except be a Glazer mouthpiece? Fortunately there are people like You Red Man and myself who refused to be brushed away by the Glazer publicity machine who want you to believe everything is under control. To everybody who turned out for Saturday's march a great big thank you. it was a really impressive sight and will have got a lot of people inside Old Trafford worrying as once again it brings the whole situation to the attention of match going reds. I am sure that Nonse Blaire Maine will have a go at us and start quoting Spirit of Shankly. Two points 1. He doesn't even go to the games. 2. Spirit of Shankly brought disgrace to themselves, their club and the name Bill Shankly by singing songs about munich at their christmas do (see You Tube) so we don't need lectures from anyone like that. To the rest of you keep fighting one day we will get our club back. RAINFISHTROMBONE

02 Nov 2010 14:53:42
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I'm not going to tackle the playing squad arguments, although I have to say I'm largely in agreement with Red Man. Rooney got us to 2nd last season - I would say for the last 2 years we have over achieved compared to our actual performances on the field thanks to the brilliance of certain individuals and the incredible desire some players have shown. That can't continue forever; we will need better players sooner or later.

DarkLard08

@Darks we need to get something straight here, i agree with much of what you say but you have got to understand one thing, you have said the Glazers will NOT do anything to damage their only money making business.

Now if the Glazers took out this 95m which you are convinced they will, then United WILL not be able to meet the new financial regulations and will be banned from European competitions. So which is it? Are the Glazers going to take out the dividends and damage the club OR are they not going to damage the club by leaving the dividends alone?

What is it Darks?

Sydney!

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02 Nov 2010 14:06:02
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@What don't you agree with Ed? {ed's note - I don't know about the editor that said no, but I don't believe United are trying to get Kakuta right now.}

@Ed Kakuka and Borini are both free agents in January, both have been turning down contract offers so they could be looking elsewhere, i am not saying they will go to United but they are certainly not 100% committed to Chelsea as they are no putting pen to paper, personally i do not blame them as the contracts being offered by Chelsea are very low, hardly surprising as they are battling to get their wage bill down.

What i do know is United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Bayern, Juventus, Inter, AC Milan, Real, Barcelona can all offer better wages than Chelsea right now and are much bigger clubs than the London outfit. It will be interesting when January 1st arrives and no contracts have been signed.

Chelsea are certainly concerned as Ancelotti said not long ago that they need to make up their minds whether they are staying or leaving. So he is obviously a little worried by their reluctance to sign. In your opinion Editor, where will both of these guys be playing next season? {ed's note - I expect both to end up staying at Chelsea, though I am sure they will have plenty of choice if they decide to leave.}

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02 Nov 2010 13:45:38
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@Probably the most believable post i have ever read on this forum, i tend to agree with all of it. Ed is this the most realistic rumour you have heard on this forum for a long while?

Sydney!

{Editor's Note: No.}

@What don't you agree with Ed? {ed's note - I don't know about the editor that said no, but I don't believe United are trying to get Kakuta right now.}

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02 Nov 2010 13:28:43
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I have been told by someone who works within old trafford that united are currently being abit underhand and sneaky in an atempt to relieve a close rival of one of there brightest young stars, although i stress that they are breaking no rules just exploiting loop holes. the player they are trying to get is Gael Kakuta of chelsea. now sir alex has been on his trail for a long time from when he was in the Lens youth academy and tried to sign him then but on finding out of his agreement with the club decided against trying to break him out of his contract so he moved to chelsea, my understanding is that Lens were prepared to sell him but for a fee of over 2M which united were unwilling to pay for an untried untested 16 year old. Now what united have done is they've told his agent to delay signing any deal with chelsea until after january, thus giving them time in january to open talks with him about joining on a bosman free transfer in th summer. As they've not spoken to him or offered anything to him or his agent then they haven't broken any rules, although i feel there sailing close to the wind.

In january the only players coming into Old Trafford will be Defour(only if someone bids for him otherwise he'll come in the summer) and Tom Cleverley will be recalled. In the summer the players joining will be Kakuta, Jovetic, Defour(unless signed in jan) and 1 or 2 goalkeepers depending on weather Kuczcak decides to stick around or move on to pastures new.
Anderson Carrick and Park will stay as Sir Alex doesn't want to much desturbance to the team and with VDS Neville Giggs Scholes Hargreaves and Owen leaving as well as possiblly Kuczcak, he doesn't want half the team leaving destroying the team atmosphere.

Shappy

@Probably the most believable post i have ever read on this forum, i tend to agree with all of it. Ed is this the most realistic rumour you have heard on this forum for a long while?

Sydney!

{Editor's Note: No.}

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02 Nov 2010 13:06:59
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I have been told by someone who works within old trafford that united are currently being abit underhand and sneaky in an atempt to relieve a close rival of one of there brightest young stars, although i stress that they are breaking no rules just exploiting loop holes. the player they are trying to get is Gael Kakuta of chelsea. now sir alex has been on his trail for a long time from when he was in the Lens youth academy and tried to sign him then but on finding out of his agreement with the club decided against trying to break him out of his contract so he moved to chelsea, my understanding is that Lens were prepared to sell him but for a fee of over 2M which united were unwilling to pay for an untried untested 16 year old. Now what united have done is they've told his agent to delay signing any deal with chelsea until after january, thus giving them time in january to open talks with him about joining on a bosman free transfer in th summer. As they've not spoken to him or offered anything to him or his agent then they haven't broken any rules, although i feel there sailing close to the wind.

In january the only players coming into Old Trafford will be Defour(only if someone bids for him otherwise he'll come in the summer) and Tom Cleverley will be recalled. In the summer the players joining will be Kakuta, Jovetic, Defour(unless signed in jan) and 1 or 2 goalkeepers depending on weather Kuczcak decides to stick around or move on to pastures new.
Anderson Carrick and Park will stay as Sir Alex doesn't want to much desturbance to the team and with VDS Neville Giggs Scholes Hargreaves and Owen leaving as well as possiblly Kuczcak, he doesn't want half the team leaving destroying the team atmosphere.

Shappy

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02 Nov 2010 12:39:13
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I seen it just didn't really understand all of it who is Ravel? and whats that about a gun? what dirty laundry is it you talk of?

*In a nutshell hes a 17yr old lad who has a MASSIVE future in the game if he sorts his head out. Alot of people rave about Jack Wilshere but this kid could be even better. Problem is that he seemingly has alot of issues with the company he keeps and his state of mind isn't the best by all accounts. Fingers crossed he can be sorted out, for United and Englands sake aswell as his own. He's working under the best manager for it.

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02 Nov 2010 11:28:51
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02 Nov 2010 10:01:03
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01 Nov 2010 14:49:22
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OK for the sake of this site Allegedly. Little Spud faced nipper has been sending a limo round to Chorlton every afternoon to pick up a young girl to take her to the Lowry hotel. Most of her neighbours thought she was the one who would be named in the Rooney case. The papers are sitting on it hoping to trade for a better story. As for Ravel Manchester United have now gone so far as to employ a psychiatrist to help him as they fear for his mental health and also they are very very very worried about who he is hanging around with. Going round to someones house with a gun is not very clever. Also good to see people on this site realising what the Bebe deal was all about now as Fergie uses his favourite agent to do some laundery for him. RAINFISHTROMBONE {ed's note - cheers mate, I have heard both stories myself, I fully expected the Rooney one to come out by now, but I guess it is not that big a story right now.}

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Hi ed did you mean this is what rainfish re-posted? {ed's note - yes mate.}

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I seen it just didn't really understand all of it who is Ravel? and whats that about a gun? what dirty laundry is it you talk of? thanks ed {ed's note - Ravel is a young lad in your academy, probably the best talent at the club right now. I think it is better I leave the rest to be explained by one of the posters here, I only know the rumours about the gun and drugs crowd he is involved with. As for the dirty laundry, let's just say Fergie is not exactly clean in his dealings with agents, he makes George Graham and Brian Clough look saintly. There is a lot of money vanishing from the club into his pocket which shouldn't be and it has been happening for years.}

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02 Nov 2010 10:40:45
Red Man

What an excellent last post. I agree with everything you said.

My view on the Rafael / Bale thing from the weekend. First, I think people severely underestimate Rafael's defensive abilities. He's improving quickly in this area, and many of his defensive shortcomings actually relate to rash decisions rather than a lack of defensive ability. He also doesn't defend in a traditional manner by jockeying players - he just goes straight for the ball (like Stuart Pearce used to) - which I think contributes to some people's views of him. He played excellently against Bale but wasn't really being pulled around by movement inside him.

Bale - I think - is an outstanding player. He was fantastic playing for Southampton and is now replicating that form in the Premier League (albeit from a more advanced position). He's direct and very quick and has the ability to carry his team forward 50 / 60 yards in no time at all (like Ronaldo did for us). If you look at his career as a whole, then 2007 and 2008 are the exceptions, not 2009 and 2010. Could Spurs be persuaded to sell? I think probably yes - they need to strengthen in all areas (particularly defence) to genuinely challenge for a top 2 slot, so £25m / £30m in for one player, allowing them to strengthen 2 / 3 positions would be good business from their point of view. Plus it'd allow Levy and Redknapp to feed their egos with more "it's not fair, we get bullied" rubbish.

Oh - and btw - Nani goal? Gomes is a klutz.

DarkLard08

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02 Nov 2010 10:01:03
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01 Nov 2010 14:49:22
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OK for the sake of this site Allegedly. Little Spud faced nipper has been sending a limo round to Chorlton every afternoon to pick up a young girl to take her to the Lowry hotel. Most of her neighbours thought she was the one who would be named in the Rooney case. The papers are sitting on it hoping to trade for a better story. As for Ravel Manchester United have now gone so far as to employ a psychiatrist to help him as they fear for his mental health and also they are very very very worried about who he is hanging around with. Going round to someones house with a gun is not very clever. Also good to see people on this site realising what the Bebe deal was all about now as Fergie uses his favourite agent to do some laundery for him. RAINFISHTROMBONE {ed's note - cheers mate, I have heard both stories myself, I fully expected the Rooney one to come out by now, but I guess it is not that big a story right now.}

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Hi ed did you mean this is what rainfish re-posted? {ed's note - yes mate.}

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02 Nov 2010 09:47:11
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01 Nov 2010 13:37:08

Editor Rainfish posted some rumours regarding Rooney & Morrison which was not edited by one of the editors, can you tell us what they rumours were?

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Can anyone tell me what this was about? {ed's note - Rainfish did post the rumours up again, it should be in there just above the post you mentioned.}

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