Manchester United Rumours Archive January 31 2012

31 Jan 2012 22:10:23
We must tie down Pogba, now people can see what I have seen for a while. I future world-class talent. Fergie sign him, Fergie Fergie sign him up. And how good was Scholes tonight and against Liverpool. Carrick played well, cannot wait to see Cleverley get stuck in too.

Sydney!

Pogba looks like a class act and looked like he actually wanted to play for United which may be a sign he is willing to sign a contract. I would try a new formation for a couple of games to see how Pogba, Scholes and Cleverly play together..

DEF
Scholes
Pogba Cleverly

Valencia Rooney Nani

Attacking lineup but problem with keeping Welbeck & Hernandez on the bench.. Just a thought

100% Agree Syd the lad has everything you need to be a top class CM and its vital he gets game time and is persuaded to sign a new contract
SC

Had people off there seats tonight syd we need to make sure he stays,looked happy and played with a big smile on his face
johndenton

Valencia terrorised stokes defence tonight
johndenton

"Pogba did very well. He’s got great talent and has a tremendous physique for a young boy. You can’t believe he’s 18. I was very pleased [with his performance]. It was a good time to bring him on as we were in control of the game and it gave him a chance to be confident with the ball. We are negotiating his contract at the moment. It’s a bit complicated as he’s changed his agent a couple of times. The boy wants to stay, I think that’s obvious." - SAF

Matthew...

Syd

Totally agree - if we don't have the money to bring in quality, at the very least we need to ensure this lad doesn't slip through our fingers.

He looked wicked, fairplay - speedy, made some tough tackles, but most importantly - A MIDFIELDER WHO GETS IN THE BOX!!

This lad and Cleverly are the only source of goals I see from our central midfield unit - Pogba really impressed me. Hope he's a regular sub for the rest of the season, or even a starter in some games.

Most importanly, he was smiling the whole time - not a sign of a lad looking to leave.

RED_SKY

31 Jan 2012 21:57:17
I think the most important signature we need is to get Pogba long term, he looked lively tonight

31 Jan 2012 21:52:18
Good performance, nice to see Pogba and he done very well. Put a smile a on my face tonight :)

31 Jan 2012 21:23:18
Gibson scores for Everton, good lad.... HERBIE

I thought I was in some sort of dream last night, It just had to be AGENT GIBSON. To be fair to Gibson alot of United fan's got on his back as he wasn't the best but boy do they love him now. City looked crap last night, lazy and couldn't be bothered as they thought they were gonna win without trying this is why United will win the League. Two massive games coming up. Chelsea and Liverpool. If we win those two games we are looking good. City have Fulham and Villa which you would have thought they'd win.

United Till I Die 1987

31 Jan 2012 20:49:36
Ed Is it true that the 50mil bid for Modric will be carried out in the summer when snider would happily come for 35mil

The Eds make calls based on bits of inside info.....and do a very good job to be fair :-)......but they're not a bunch of Nostradami! (if thats even a term)

Gav

ps. Sneijder is on over double the wage of Modric anyway - so looking at transfer fee alone would be pointless {Ed002's Note - The collective noun for Nostradami is a "Prediction".}

31 Jan 2012 20:44:42
Not saying much about it but, Mats Hummels to us seems to be in a few different places. I'm not saying it's definite does anybody (ed's) no anything more on this story ?


Strider98!

31 Jan 2012 20:16:10
TalkSh1t just announced Morrison has signed for West Ham done deal apparently

SSN reporting the same £1million fee.
Look I don't appreciate the kids temprament (Spelling) but how many of us have job where you turn up when you want?
If he loved United like he said he did, he'd be working his arse off for £5000 a month not £15000 a week!
Clayton Blackmore

Manutd.com aswell

Good riddance. If he cannot give a bit back to the club that has basically kept him out of prison then we are better off without him. His loss....

... But after seeing Pogba playing tonight, were he impressed (with a smile on his face), I'm not so "depressed" with Morrison leaving.

31 Jan 2012 19:34:26
Lads,

What you reckon Morrison having a Steven Gerrard/Chelsea moment? So close to signing but realises he loves United? (Morrison not Gerrard!)
I very much doubt it but just feel something is gonna happen out the blue tonight! Maybe wishful thinking!

Ports

I've been thinking (hoping) the same...it seems to have gone a bit quiet?

Gav

Maybe not then!

Ports

Do you seriously believe that's what happened with Gerrard? Gerrard would be a Chelsea player now if it wasn't for his parent's house being vandalised.

Sydney!

Could have been a united player in a yr or 2 but now has to work his way up. moving to london may not help him, major media headquaters in london, if he does do anything it will be probably be shown on a larger scale as united tried der hardest to keep the off the field situations on the low. Sam allardyce is manager who also will not take nicely to a young player messing around, so hes going to have to be careful at west ham aswell.

SSP

Just a light hearted comment Syd, BELIEVE! Remember that iconic quote we use at United?

Didn't think it was appropriate to say ''wonder if a loads of thugs will go round and smash his and his parents house up so he decides to stay!''

Ports

31 Jan 2012 18:57:17
no deals today just the kid from city sad times a head phil manchester

31 Jan 2012 17:29:18
Ed, is the Morrison move to West Ham a loan or permanent deal.

G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - Permanent GAGUS mate.}

31 Jan 2012 17:43:50
Ive akways wanted sneijder to join but i never thought it would happen but afew things in the past month may have changed my mind, gibson to everton, morrison leaving, and freedy guarin who has just joined inter, guarin and sneijder are pretty much the same player exsept guarin is better defender also ranieri said in the past week he doesnt know where sneijder fits ib the tean anymore.. think what you like but i think hes on the move, ed/syd

Maybe in the summer!they couldn't keep dat story quiet now so close to this window,anyone see a guy walking into utd with a cantona mask on!maybe it was him haha

Super red

No there is more chance of nasa discovering intelligent life at anfield than signing sneijder.

I think your putting 2+2 together and getting. Guarin is replacing motta or muntari as theyre similar. I'd love you to be right mate, but i jsut don't see it.

Sanshine

San
your probs right i just think a midfielder could come in, we gave just sold 2 midfielders and thats were we lack players
L.A.7

Fredy Guarin is not like Wesley Sneijder at all really.. But i can see him fitting into Inter's formation much better and with Motta gone too it makes sense! I reckon Wes will slowly fade then follow in the footsteps of Eto'o and move to Russia.

Ozwald

31 Jan 2012 17:16:47
Personally I would have liked to have seen Samba brought in on a 6-month loan.. would have definately added depth until the end of the season at CB and would free jones or smalling to play RB. Never going to happen but it could have been a good deal.

MTL

31 Jan 2012 17:02:14
Well f*** this! Does anyone know if Morrison's signed yet? Our best talent in 20 years and we won't play him, yet we give Giggs another contract extension? I'd be off at the first chance I got as well. I almost hope it comes back to bite us, just to show us the errors of our ways.

Percy

So you would play a spoilt brat who wouldnt even turn up for training ?
johndenton

Don't be ridiculous, he was doing as all players should do and demanding game time! You expect him to be happy with reserves football? He could be the best player in the world in a few years and SAF would play a weary Giggs instead of him.

Percy

So its ok for any player not to turn up for training ? what happens if you cant be bothered to turn up for work i doubt you would get a rise and promotion.its funny how the papers had city barca milan roma all scrambling for his signature and he signs for west ham in the championship.as good as he could of been and ive seen him play plenty of times no one would touch him with a barge pole we are better off without the distractions he brings,i would be very depressed though if we didnt tie down pogba
johndenton

Percy, the biggest rule tht implies to every player playing for Utd is tht no matter hw good you are, NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB. i think SAF saw him as a disruption to the dressing room & in my opinion the lad hd a lot of s**t to his name. Giving in to his demands would simply mean there is no difference btwn us & the other clubs.

IBleedBlue

Giggs appears to be bigger than the club. He's been woeful this season, yet SAF feels obliged to play him.

Percy

31 Jan 2012 16:05:36
My mate who is at the Ajax Youth Academy has told me that yesterday, Christian Eriksen has flown out to Manchester for a medical to finalize a shock move to United! For all you SAF doubters I hope you all kiss his feet now!

Really? Ed any truth? {Ed007's Note - I don't know him, but I would doubt it. To come up with that story I can't see him having many mates, maybe an action man or barbie.}

And that's why nothing has been reported on this all day?!
Carl

And I hope u apologize to us all when it doesn't happen

Big Mac

Oh PLEASE oh PLEASE oh PLEASE......

eriksen now... hazard @ martinez/m'vila in the summer....

That would have be buzzing

As nice as that would this is absolute rubbish ha ha!

Your friend said he has FLOWN out YESTERDAY? How long is the flight from Amsterdam to Manchester?

Ports

This won't happen.


ANd

You should kiss my Ar.e ih he doesn't sign
ARB

Where is he then?Is he going to arrive in the summer?

How would a guy at the ajax academy know this info when eriksen plays for first team stop wasting peoples time

Maybe he is walking all the way down. I reckon he'll reach in summer?

IBleedBlue

31 Jan 2012 15:59:51
so what's going on with Morrison?
I keep hearing personal terms are agreed and the fee is agreed by multiple sources.

Why isn't the deal announced (yet)?
Reading the rumors everyone seems to be happy with the deal. It is possible to sign such a deal a couple of hours before the deadline :D

Is he having second thoughts? still on the road down south? SAF having second thoughts?

To me the whole situation looked like it was two big headed, stubborn parties trying to win (SAF & Ravel).
If that's true one might give in, or we won't see Ravel back until SAF is gone, at the earliest.

Alot of me is hoping that the fee of 65 k being the maximum he can earn at West Ham is acting as a detterent.

When he knows and has been told that if he works hard enough at united he could be on 200k by the time he's 22.

I'm questioning if it is a little bit of scare tactics by fergie.

31 Jan 2012 15:27:43
Man United have snapped up 19-year-old Man City central defender Freddie Veseli.

Veseli went to Manchester City Center yesterday, in a red jacket, to celebrate his move to Manchester United from MCFC

Freddie Veseli is a composed, ball-playing centre back & has captained his country to U-17 World Cup win in 2009.

RamoN 19

I heard he visited Anfield too. Are we jumping the gun in declaring this deal done?
Nothing on manutd.com.
Not saying we haven't signed him, but we are still lacking anything confirmed, aren't we?

31 Jan 2012 14:31:42
Lindegaard, De Gea, Rooney and Nani all out of tonight's squad. Amos likely to start with Kuszczak on the bench. This could be a massive test for Amos tonight looking forward to it he's a good keeper.

United Till I Die 1987

This is going to be a really tough match tonight, with those players out. think we will still have enough to win the game, but will need to start very quickly get a couple of early goals to kill them off

UNITEDFORLIFE

@UNITEDFORLIFE Totally agreed, we need to kill it off early. Stoke although they play horrible football, are a decent team and more than capable of an upset.

United Till I Die 1987

Well it's to be hoped he is because you have no other keeper worthy of the name

Puzzled

It showed that we missed Rooney and Nani on Saturday. Let's hope we can get the 3 points tonight!

Brooksy

De gea not in the squad? please tell me it's an injury because being completely dropped would kill him..

31 Jan 2012 13:29:33
Looks like Morrison to west ham. Extremely disappointed to the point of total frustration. He brings back scholes keeps giggs beyond sense yet let's Morrison go unbelievable

Just been reported on sky giggs is going to do another year
jred

Morrison is a muppet regardless of how good he is, he is not fit to wear the shirt. Nobody is bigger or better than the club. He will regret his behaviour criminally and in football for the rest of his life but probably won't admit it ! Thanks god it's over now let's move on.

"Let's Morrison go"? I think you will find he does not want to stay. If they want to go let them leave and stop wasting our coaches time.

In a year when he's scorin a hattrick against us you'll be sayin a lot of things different

31 Jan 2012 13:04:18
vaselli in carrington signing a deal. 19 years old defender from switzerland from city

31 Jan 2012 12:31:38
Rumours coming out of some people that work at OT are that the lack of signings and part exodus this Jan and refusal to give new contracts to young players is partly due to the fact that a full or partial buyout of the club this March/April and the club are trying to cut as many costs as possible to make this happen. In theory this makes sense but we have heard so many similar rumours I don't know what to believe, anybody else heard anything similar?

Stew4d

Not saying you are wrong, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Signing the "most promising talent" of this millennium to long term contracts would certainly not decrease the value of the club, even if that means a higher wage bill.
No one considering spending this kind of money would want to see the brightest prospects leaving.

Sorry, but I doubt this is the reason.

Jonny8

Hearing the same. Club is being tarted up for sale, overheads being reduced so the G's can get the best deal.
No big names will be arriving, thats why Scholes has come back for the season as AF not able to bring anyone in.

More spin Stew4d.

How many times have we heard these whispers?
"The reason United aren't spending money is due to a takeover"

For at least 3 seasons now, regardless of how much we spend in whatever window!

Surely offering new contracts to retain your top talent is imperative to attracting buyers for the club - proves we're heading in the right direction!

RED_SKY

We may be 'tarted up' but not for a sale, is more likely will be for the stock floatation in singapore

31 Jan 2012 12:01:31
Any truth in the rumour that United tried and failed to sign Benfica's Javi Garcia in the last week or so?

31 Jan 2012 11:48:57
Morrison fee 650k rising to 2 mill depending on app
Wage 15 k rising to 65k depending on app
Jred

Jred mate where did you get this?

Shappy

Theres no buy back option either

aaallj5

Shappy
I don't know if it's true but the guardian broke the story last night and they are using the same "inside source" this afternoon to say that is what the deal is
Jred

1m of this is agents fees..

greedy scum... HATE THEM

31 Jan 2012 11:23:57
Is it true about lindergard injury yesterday, and then DDG not training due to illness. if so big game for Amo's tonight against most physical side in premiership.
Jay

Amos is a very good keeper and has played in Physical games before. My only concern is if he is playing we may need some experiance in defence infront of him to help organise things.

Shappy

If Ben Amos plays tonight he will do good.
He looks a lot stronger than Degea and Linda.

31 Jan 2012 10:49:34
So fee/personal terms agreed for Morrison to West Ham. Pending meeting with Sam.

Really not sure what to make of this, if he was that good, brilliant west ham got him and not some big rival but really why are we letting him go? Despite his problems, surely he will grow up and his football will talk in the end. Or on the other hand, if he wasn't that good its good we got some money before we lost him on a free and we have removed a problem making kid.

I honestly believe that the deal will either turn out to be a loan deal or SAF will insist in a first refusal/set price clause in the contract.
If SAF genuinely wanted TW lad out for good then he would of flogged him to Newcastle but it's funny he's done a deal with a close friend and someone SAF knows he can trust in Big Sam! I think it's a good move for the lad, see the grass isn't always greener but will get some game time in a competitive league. I could be wrong and end up with egg on my face but I believe this is another stroke of genius on SAF part!

Ports

Don't you see United have done both?

The problem child is out of the Club and moving to a new area to start afresh where he will get more game time.

If it's a loan, we'll obviously get him back. If it's permanent then we'll surely put a buy-back clause in the contract. It would be uttely stupid not to, he's the best talent we've had since Scholes. I think this explains the low fee.

Apparently morrison will be on £10-15k per week rising to £65k with bonuses. He aint worth that a week

31 Jan 2012 10:19:22
Eds, Is there any chance of us signing a proven, top player today!? The likes of Motta and surprise surprise Sneijder doing the rounds on twitter this morning...

samlr {Ed007's Note - I don't think so.}

31 Jan 2012 09:15:32
I, for one, couldn't care less about Morrison leaving. If he was all that good, Fergie would have given him the cash and he would have broken into the first team. "He's only 18" Yeah? Rooney, Fabregas etc all broke into the first teams before 18.

In my opinion, it is a blessing. If the kid doesnt want to wear the United shirt he aint worth the hassle. He will not make it at West Ham either, if he cant be motivated to train for the best team in the world he sure as hell aint gonna be motivated to train with West Ham. He is a primadonna, end of.

I believe it should impact the Pogba situation, with us being able to get him to sign soon due to more leeway with Wage due to Gibson and Diouf being off the books as well as potentially Macheda, King etc.

However with more and more players going out the do i think we can expect a big overhaul of the squad in the summer.

Only players i could rule out leaving in the summer are Young, Cleverley, Carrick, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Vidic, Jones, Smalling, DDG and Lindegaard. Id like to put the twins in there too but one of the Ed's believe they maybe gone in the summer too.

Fergie tried to move Nani on in the summer, and i imagine he will entertain the idea again this summer if a significant bid comes in. I think we could see Valencia leave also - although he is very consistent and getting back to his top form, he is very one dimensional.

Fletcher i hope comes back as he is a great squad player, would be sad to have his career ended like that.

MUFC_Devil

There could be a few big changes, but it would surprise me if it became anything other than a one or the other situation.

A lot of it will come down to what money is offered for which players, but I don't think there will be multiple departures and any single position.

Unless there is a significant investment into the club, from an outside source, I seriously doubt the clubs financial capability to effectively carry out a squad overhaul on the level that your talking about.

TM

He is that good you fool, he is arguably the player with the most potential to ever graduate from our academy. He has the potential to be one of the best players on the planet, but evidently his behavior problems/contract demands are obviously the final straw for SAF. You shouldn't comment on a player's ability if you have never watched them play, if you have watched him play, then you would know just how good he is and how good he will be.

Sydney!

Obviously haven't seen any of him in the reserves if you 'couldn't care less' about him leaving. All players are different and Morrison is on the verge of being class if he got his act together.

From a personal point of view I can understand it as he clearly has many problems, but from just a plain football point of view every united fan should be a little bit upset today to lose such a promising young talent.

Smithy

You would rather see valencia leave than fletcher!?

Nani is one of the only 'matchwinners' in our squad and although he is inconsistent at times, unless he is going to havea replacement already lined up (hazard,shaqiri,dzagoev) then fergie can afford to get rid of him!

I personally think anderson has had enough time to develop, although been hampered with loads of injuries, think he could see the door in the summer.

Gpot7

Bet its all paper talk and he will be in squad later.

dont believe anything until it hapens IMO

morrison story is boring anyway theres more important things to worry about

Scutt85

So Syd, you think that a youth player who demonstrates such astonishing levels of arrogance, a complete lack of respect for the club and the manager, not to mention his team mates and fans and the law in general, should be given what he wants?
Regardless of his "can't be bothered training" attitude?
Fergie and United have given him ample opportunity to show a different attitude, apparently he prefers to live in this "gang banger" fantasy rather than knuckle down and commit.
As talented as he obviously is, he is very immature and lacks nouse to get ahead.

OP: Nani AND Valencia out of the door? Our two most creative players? In a team that is sorely lacking, erm, creativity? If by "one dimensional" you mean direct, then yes, Toni V is that.

Oops, Sorry Syd.
I mentioned you and i meant to direct my response to the OP.
Sumimasen!

Seriously... 1m..

palace are asking 7+ for zaha and although rav has his problems he is a better player....

if west ham get promoted watch him tear prem teams apart next season....... and then make big money move somewhere.. within 2 years.....

Something is not well at OT

We have to try and forget this year

But is SAF clearing off and leaving a the next Managervto get his own signings

Nani wont be sold unless he wants to go which doesn't look likely. Antonio Valencia isn't going anywhere anytime soon! He's not one dimensional, he gives us something different. You needa open your eyes son!

Ozwald

31 Jan 2012 01:09:13
We are signing Frederic Veseli today. Man City youngster we have poached from their 'Elite Development Squad'. Had his medical yesterday. CB rated fairly highly. Can't see anymore incoming's.

United Till I Die 1987

Frederic Veseli is a Kosovo born Swiss player known to be good friends with Xherdan Shaqiri - who again is a Kosovo born Swiss player. Coincidence? Maybe - makes more sense that we would be buying Veseli (who can already speak english) to help out Shaqiri if we sign him in the summer.

Dont shoot me down for it, it is only a theory.

MUFC_Devil

Eds can you confirm if the player has signed?or anyone else for that matter?

cheers,
Rudi {Ed007's Note - He hasn't signed yet.}

30 Jan 2012 23:22:27
Ed's, Sydney! Can either of you verify if we had scouts watching Yann M'Vila last night? Something I heard not sure if it's true or not.

United Till I Die 1987 {Ed001's Note - I can't, I will leave a note for 002 and see if she knows.}

Thanks Ed

United Till I Die 1987 {Ed001's Note - I have left her a note, I will let you know as soon as she replies.}

30 Jan 2012 23:44:59
Pogba expected to sign a new united deal, and should feature on the bench against stoke, top news!!

Anon

Jesus H.

Is nobody else f******* distraught at the fact that MANCHESTER UNITED need to sell a load of fringe players to enable us to offer ONE OF TWO youth players a new contract??????

Our club is in dark, dark times.

RED_SKY

They weren't even fringe players mate, gibson was of in the summer, before his agent forget he was darron gibson and not messi. Diouf was hit or miss, could of been new drogba wasn't. macheda want make it. we still have kusack.

aaallj5