Manchester United Rumours Archive October 31 2010

31 Oct 2010 22:57:27
Manchester United Rumours
If todays papers true (and every week it changes)

GK DeGea
LM Hazard
CM Schweinstiger

would fellow reds be happy, have to say id be chuffed

@I would be delighted with these signings, however i am not convinced we have enough money to bring in these three, they would cost between 55-60m and i believe we will only have around 20m plus sales.

_ _ _ _De Gea
Rafa_ Ferd_ Vidic_ Evra
_ _Fletcher_Schwein
Toni_ _ Hazard_ _ Nani
_ _ _ _Rooney

Ed as Schweinsteiger only has 18 months left on his contract is it fair to say he would cost around 25m possibly less?

Sydney! {ed's note - I think he is so good he will cost 25m, certainly no more as it is very unlikely he will sign a new contract.}

31 Oct 2010 21:16:25
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So we not byin in jan window? Well not 2 suprised but also think we'll get by wiv the oldies mixed wiv youth? Summer buys r a must there is nothin cumin threw tht can replace the class of giggs n scholes! Rafa has already dun it 4 neville! Chico is a gr8 3rd striker rooney a gr8 1st berba not a 2nd. So priorities r defour 14 mil, shweinstiger 30 or lass 10 and modric 20.Affeliy free? Not priority benzama 20! Wont happen but wud luv bellamy, bale, most of all bring bak home tevez!

31 Oct 2010 19:38:10
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"dear mr red man,
its obvious that many of us see the problem. so what is the solution?
on one hand there is the fifa/uefa rulings
cant spend more than you earn.
on the other hand, we are in huge debt albeit controlled by the bonds (temporary may ngiak add)
and on the third hand (!) the business side of the club is expanding massively. we have record sponsorships and other revenue.
so what is ngiak to believe? do we stay stagnant while the club continues to earn and find more sources of money/sponsorship? in that case, we are actually going in the right direction as with a little more work, the club could actually earn at least 150 million profit a year, maybe even 200 million!
however, the team will have to carry us in the field to make it happen, eith league money, euro money or even attractiveness for more sponsors. .
it will be these same players for say, the nex 5 years. the hope is we sopt more ronaldos and the youth set up get more beckhams, giggs and scholes'.
too much uncertainty
ngiak is in a quandary, so mr rainfishtrombone, you now realise why ngiak is relatively on the fence here. .
ie to buy or not to buy that new jersey that will "help the cause". but ngiak does not know if the "cause" is man united or the glazers. .
gan"

Dear Ngiak
Yes it is a difficult situation.
The profit will only keep increasing if the team is attractive on the pitch and winning. The team we have needs investment. We have waited and watched over two summers to see if the necessary investment would come, and it hasnt. On what basis are we to trust it will happen next summer?

At the moment if you buy the shirt it is not going to buy a player but to cover interest on debts and in many peoples opinion the dividend to start repaying the PIK's next summer.
We are being asked to trust them that they will buy the big players. However, we only have the words of Sir Alex to clarify this, no value in the market, when there has been value. The only evidence we have seen is they have not invested.
We can all see we need a top midfield player yet it hasnt happened. Now what we can't tell is if any of the kids like Pogba is really going to make it. A lot of players reach 17 or 18 and just don't push on to the next level. We have to see with him. We have bought players in the £3 to £8M category in the hope they will be good, Hernandez has a good chance but for every one of him there is a Kleberson.
I believe we need to see real investment , a statement by the Glazers that they really do want to have the best team in Europe before we buy one more shirt. We and you should wait and demand that we buy at least two real quality players before we spend one penny.
Buy shirts if you want but don't come back on 1st September next year and say you don't believe it when we havent spent anything.

Red Man

31 Oct 2010 18:28:42
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"""Answer,
See my point in the point below yours. The Glazers need to make a nice big juicy profit to take dividends from next summer. Either that or the manager has lost his bottle.

Red Man"""
dear mr red man,
its obvious that many of us see the problem. so what is the solution?
on one hand there is the fifa/uefa rulings
cant spend more than you earn.
on the other hand, we are in huge debt albeit controlled by the bonds (temporary may ngiak add)
and on the third hand (!) the business side of the club is expanding massively. we have record sponsorships and other revenue.
so what is ngiak to believe? do we stay stagnant while the club continues to earn and find more sources of money/sponsorship? in that case, we are actually going in the right direction as with a little more work, the club could actually earn at least 150 million profit a year, maybe even 200 million!
however, the team will have to carry us in the field to make it happen, eith league money, euro money or even attractiveness for more sponsors. .
it will be these same players for say, the nex 5 years. the hope is we sopt more ronaldos and the youth set up get more beckhams, giggs and scholes'.
too much uncertainty
ngiak is in a quandary, so mr rainfishtrombone, you now realise why ngiak is relatively on the fence here. .
ie to buy or not to buy that new jersey that will "help the cause". but ngiak does not know if the "cause" is man united or the glazers. .
gan

31 Oct 2010 16:52:50
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Everyone is saying we have stars in the youth ranks like who ajose brown pogba Morrison if there that good why don't we play them in the carling cup instead of carrick and others wolves would of been perfect game to see them in and what is pogbas name as I can't find him in any of the teams on the utd

Paul Pogba . .ajose is on loan at bury. your not gonna try a young keeper and inexperienced young defenders (it aint fair) ie.Browny. an Rav got on for a minute. . .From a scouser. .am i right Rainfish.

31 Oct 2010 15:40:15
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PS

I also read the other day that the president of vitoria guimaraes said we did not sign Bebe for 7.5m and the number floating around is saying 4.8m. So some people need to chill on that transfer. Also is it me or did our midfield to pretty well against spurs?

Sanshine

£4.8M IS WHAT GUIMARAES VITORIA RECEIVED FOR HIM, THE REST (33%) WENT TO MENDES (THE AGENT). BUT UNITED PAID OUT A GRAND TOTAL OF £7.6M FOR BEBE.

31 Oct 2010 15:39:30
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"No value in the market in january then"

Truly unbelievable

31 Oct 2010 15:35:20
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According to 'NOTW' United are negotiationg with De gea, with two 9 million payments and are confident he'll be here next season. Duno if true, ed? Just thought i'd share this :D {ed's note - if it hadn't been from the NOTW I would have thought it was true! I do believe you want him but not sure you will pay that much when there are so many other good keepers available for less.}

DE GEA HAS A BUY OUT CLAUSE OF 20M EUROS THEREFORE £18M WOULD BE TOO MUCH, 20M EUROS IS CLOSER TO £16M. SO AS THE NOTW HAVE SAID £18M THE STORY IS PROBABLY FALSE.

31 Oct 2010 14:38:09
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You can imagine how surprised people like me and Red Man were when Fergie came out and said that he wouldn't be making any signings in January as there is no value in the market. After all that honest Mr Gill had told us that there was money to burn at Old Trafford and we could buy any player we wanted. And we all know he wouldn't lie to us or change his mind would he? And you have got all these people on this site telling us about all these players we are going to buy and how the Glazers aren't bad people. The future is so bright and Rosy. Maybe we can get Giggs and Scholes and Neville to sign another years contract which is the same as buying 3 world class new players isn't it. I can't understand all these people who think that putting Manchester United into debt for over 700 million is a bad thing. And i am sure that the Glazers have worked very hard and deserve the 450 million they have taken out of the club already. They obviously have the best for the club in their hearts. My only hope now is that we start giving average squad players inflated contract and get Rio to sign a new 5 year contract at an increased wage. I mean yes I know his legs have gone, he misses more games than he plays and he is always there whenever there is off the field trouble, but what good value and he can use twitter. RAINFISHTROMBONE

31 Oct 2010 14:21:26
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I also read the other day that the president of vitoria guimaraes said we did not sign Bebe for 7.5m and the number floating around is saying 4.8m. So some people need to chill on that transfer. Also is it me or did our midfield to pretty well against spurs?

Sanshine. . . . . . . . . . Sanshine you need to wake up and smell the coffee. The club probably only received 4.8 million the rest will have gone to interested parties agent Carlos Queros Fergie etc. All done through agents and paid to off shore accounts. RAINFISHTROMBONE {ed's note - I am pretty sure his agent received at least 2m from the transfer, I can't remember the exact figures now but it was not a 4.8m transfer fee.}

31 Oct 2010 13:16:38
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According to Tribalfootball.com it would appear that Antonio Cassano will become a free agent! now I say sign him the h*ck up. Then in summer we can bring in De Rossi as planned to bolster that midfield, along with Defour and a keeper and possibly an attacking mid such as Ganso or Ninis. I really don't think we need to buy another winger, if we do hes gotta be left footed. I'd love to have Sanchez but I think that would force us to sell one of our wingers.

What are everyones thoughts on this?

PS

I also read the other day that the president of vitoria guimaraes said we did not sign Bebe for 7.5m and the number floating around is saying 4.8m. So some people need to chill on that transfer. Also is it me or did our midfield to pretty well against spurs?

Sanshine

31 Oct 2010 13:10:26
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According to 'NOTW' United are negotiationg with De gea, with two 9 million payments and are confident he'll be here next season. Duno if true, ed? Just thought i'd share this :D {ed's note - if it hadn't been from the NOTW I would have thought it was true! I do believe you want him but not sure you will pay that much when there are so many other good keepers available for less.}

31 Oct 2010 12:11:31
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31 Oct 2010 11:15:59

I got a question for ed. Let's assume Rooney is being paid 250k a week. Won't the other star players (nani, Ferdinand, berbatov, evra) want similer deals too? I don't see man u paying 4 5 players an increased wage. Unless that means Rooney will be sold in the same way to the ronaldo sale (signed 5 year deal then gone next summer)
{Editor's note - Well the wage bill will go down massively when the VDS, Neville, Giggs, and Scholes are sold}

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You still need to find replacments for at least 2-3 of those retiring. I think you don't need a replacment for giggs. The players who will retire soon aren't greedy footballer who are on stupid amount of money per week. There probably paid a 1/5th of what rooneys being paid. Then you need to pay the transfer fee required. I doubt they can't find replacements + increase the wage of there stars and are able to bring down the wage bill {ed's note - you are joking right? All of those players are on a hell of a lot of money, try doubling what you were talking about and you would be in the right ball park. With NI contributions, insurance against injuries and retirement, taxes and bonuses, that is 500k off the wage bill every week when they go.}

31 Oct 2010 11:48:15
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No value in the market in january then

31 Oct 2010 09:12:03
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I think after watch in the game yest that other than keeper (age)then our defence is gud? Midfeild coz of carrick bein pants n scholes age then we need 2 or poss 1 signin? Shweinstiger wud b great defour seems dun deal? Hopefully toni valence wil cum bak the same player n nani is a future great? Affeliy wud b gud for free! Upfront too much pressure on the pea (although he's coping wiv it) berbas fallen off again! So benzema n rooney t lead the line wiv the pea n kiko as bakup? Then r youth obertan n bebe luk stars int makin? Pogba cleverly gibson the futures bright! Spend 20 on benz 30 on shwein n sell berba 20 mil

31 Oct 2010 08:18:34
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Man Utd is seeing this players. Man Utd gk coach, Eric Steele said the club is targeting

Anders Lindegaard of Aalesunds
Craig Bellamy of Man City / on loan at Cardiff
Niko Kranjcar of Tottenham
Giorgios Samaras of Celtic
Scott Sinclair of Swansea

and also MU is offering new contracts for

Patrice Evra , Wayne Rooney , Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez ,

the cost to buy the players may cost a fortune but Fergie had in his mind some of this rumours I'm given.

31 Oct 2010 00:07:03
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Is nobody considering being quiet about gareth bale if we bought berbaflop off them for 30 mil and bales twice the player then he will cost 50 million to us at least as thy don't need to sell i think matt jarvis looks dangerous we struggled against him in midweek and go play either flank and good final ball and rapid and would cost around 7 million. To replace scholes i would love to see either javi martinez, defour or stephane mbia or miguel veloso and to sign striker i think darren bent or lavezzi or lisandro lopez then goalkeepers to replace vds are rui patricio or sergio asenjo or de gea
what do you think ed?
{Editor's note - I think both Nani and Valencia are better than Jarvis, I also do not think we need a striker and I think De Gea would be a good choice for midfield}