Manchester United Rumours Archive June 03 2012

03 Jun 2012 21:41:43
How can Pogba as reported have a medical and sign contract
Before the 1st of July? Is it more b******t?

He will be a free agent before then... He can do what he wants

fearny

You have a point, he can't be in Italy to sign a contract as he's still under contract with United. Anyone know what date it finishes?

Who cares sooner he's gone and spends his hard earned wage shopping on the weekends in Turin the better , we won't hear his name mentioned again another player gone to waste chasing miney

I think he can have a medical and sign but he cannot officially join juventus until 1st july (eds can you confirm this). I hope the story is untrue and pogba stays though. Bookedredmole {Ed004's Note - I am not sure...}

Teams are allowed to approach and confirm signing 6 MONTHS before a contract expires but the player can only move in a window but there is nothing stopping them training with their new club.

justpij

If he does sign for Juve with all the problems currently surrounding Italian football, he must be the most short sighted, dumbest balloon ever! Along with the greediest fof all ootball agents.

J - stand

03 Jun 2012 20:24:14
if nani were to be sold who would be the likeliest replacement?
Gaitan
Rodriguez
anyone else likely ??

D. Costa?

If saf is sure he can turn rodriguez into a player like ronaldo then id prefer rodriguez

I'd love robben or frank ribery!Affellay would be a great buy aswell I reckon,watched him v northern Ireland he put in a great performance

Super Red

I can't think of anything worse than watching robben or ribery rolling round screaming in agony every 5 minutes wearing a man utd shirt

Hazard, Lavezzi.....oh these are already taken. IF and thats a big IF nani was sold rodriguez and gaitan would be poor replacement. I cant think of a player with nani's ability that we realistically stand a chance of getting.
If we sell Nani, the only thing i see happening is united being linked with alot of top players and failing sign any of them. We will then be told we tried very hard, we wont be held at ransom, no value in the market, right player wasnt available e.t.c. The funds from the sale of nani will then go towards buying back more bonds.
And without a proper replacement, we will probably finish 3rd. does anyone remember how we struggled with unlocking defences that 'park the bus'? Valencia is pretty useless when he has no space to run into.

Millz

Nani is a wanabe. talks big plays poor. 3 decent games a season and the rest hes a no show, reminds me a bit of bendtner he does that alot.

Why would we need to replace someone who hasn't performed on a cosistant level since he has been at United?
he has had enough chances, let him go and let's get someone in that will perform

melwing28 {Ed004's Note - Are you for real? So we are not going to replace the 10 + goals and 10 + assists he has contributed for the past two seasons running?}

There are plenty of players that can stump up 10 goals and 10 assits, its nothing to shout about hes no ronaldo. get rid and get somebody thats hungry and not deluded

I reli dont know what sum of u are reli watching you all keep saying dat nani isnt consistent enough when he is hardly getting the chance to prove you all wrong consistency and good form are acquire when u play week by week and nani reli isnt getting that chance and if you also relize that each time he gets dat chance he always scores a goal are gets an assit.

03 Jun 2012 15:04:16
Nick Powell signing wrapped up apparently.

Great prospect for the future.

At least the reserves have a replacement for will Keane then

Dustbin

Yes but only if he doesn't sit in reserves for 3 years benefitting from superior training only to leave through lack of opportunities as does seem to be a worrying trend

It's not worrying at all, all the players who have left to play more often hardly turn into superstars do they, if they're good enough they'll get picked every week

Dustbin

And why are we not trying to sign 18 year old kids that can play in our 1st team now?

How many 18 year olds can you name we could sign to play straight in our first eleven then?
Invisible STuey

03 Jun 2012 14:28:34
Keep your eye out for a bid for marek hamsik. This will only happen if modric deal falls through.

There's no way in the world we'll buy a modric or anyone else in his price range unless we sell quality players to fund them, I really don't want to see nani leave but I think he will be cashed in on and replaced with a cheaper player

I swear he just signed a new contract and has a 100 million buy out clause or something ridiculous.

Gpot7

No name,

No way in the world? Why don't you leave a name so when you do you can come back and apologise for talking rubbish?

GDS

Sorry forgot to leave a name as you said , stop dreaming about a fantasy team a live in the real world where utd no longer spend big money on proven players

Dustbin

I work at OT and ive heard alot of names been thrown about. Im not 'in the know' as the only people who really know who were looking at are sir alex, gill, and a few of the scouts. So before you start jumping all over me remember this is a rumours site.

Tomr

100 million euro buy-out clause in his contract. Not going to happen I'm afraid.

Didn't Hulk have a similar buy-out clause at Porto? Buy-out clauses don't mean the market price is fixed and they're hardly ever met when they're as rediculously high as this one. Not sure why people get so hung up on buy-out clauses

Gav

I read Hamsik signed a new contract only months ago (with thi sbig buy out clause) and wanted to stay in Italy for the forseeable future so dont see this happening. For all the hype on the player I have never seen him excel in a single match either.
Invisible Stuey

03 Jun 2012 13:47:04
United need at least 2 midfielders maybe Modric (proven) in premier and dembele the fulham lad with Vidic back and Fletcher and Young Jones and Smalling settled number 20 will be ours assuming we already got Kagwa

Modric isn't proven in premier league,he hasn't set the world a light and he ain't world class.he plays for Spurs,he would find it extremely difficult to get into any of the top sides in the world

No Name,

He plays for Spurs so he can't possibly be world class. Chelsea wanted him last summer for a long of money, if we could get him for 25-30 million he would be a super signing, better than anything we have at the moment in his position.

People complain the squad isn't good enough and we need players and when we are linked with players who would massively improve us they moan and say not good enough! It is ridiculous. Some will never be happy.

GDS

Gds,
Modric for me is another Veron,actualy Veron was better in his prime.he may or may not improve our squad!Just because Chelsea wanted him for a high price,doesn't mean hes worth that or he'd suit our style of play!hes no where near being worth 25-30m!hes unproven!he doesn't even stand
out at Spurs!he would make very little difference to what we already have!hes no better than carrick,the two of them have no strenght no pace,no instinct for assists or goals.they make look different on the ball but they are so similer in so many ways!Modric moves the ball on and we have that already.hes nothing special!he would be an extremely bad buy!dont need modric!he doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body,can't tackle,can't defend,can't go past players,he has no speed or pace,no power or strenght,doesn't score enough
goals,doesn't have enough assists.and you think we should pay 25-30m!will ya wake up man!iniesta,zavi,ozil,scholes sneijder.these are all proven world class players.players that are caplible of running a game,who have goals in them and assists!modric is not in there mould!hey ain't good enough to lace they're boots.

Noname, you can't see the woods for the trees!

Modric would be a direct replacement for Scholes' role this season and he is perfect for that role. Scholes wasnt there to tackle or to score prolifically he was there to control and dictate possession and link the defence with the midfield

If you actually watched Modric play closely I'm sure you could see he is great at this role. If you just watch him on MOTD and look at stats or play fantasy footaball then I can see how you would be mistaken!

I'm tired of people saying Modric is cr*p because he can't tackle or because he doesn't score 20+ goals. This is not his game - he is the Xavi or Scholes in a team. And I'm sure if he did play with the likes of Kagawa, Rooney, Valencia, Nani he would get at least 15-20 goals/assists anyway, as well as controlling our tempo and possession (his role)

The only problem with Modric is his price tag IMO. I will admit that. If we could get him for £25-30m I'd be very tempted

Gav

Both Sneijder and Modric had 4 goals and 5 assists so your talking rubbish. I know Modric played more games but that just means Sneijder is more injury prone. Modric is proven class in the premier league.

Agrees with Gav.....modric does keep the ball and control/link the Defence with the midfield but only problem i have is he is not the best of winning back possesion or tackling why not buy javi martinez/M'villa provides what modric has...younger and bring other things on the table


RN
GGMU

Gav,
I take your point but modric could never be as good as scholes,he's not got that footballing brain.modric is far too slow in feet and in mind also comparing him to xavi whom Is an absolute genius at assists.and his footballing brain is magnificent.I've watched modric at old Trafford and at white hart lane.he is just to inconsistant,very slow
And goes out of games an awful lot.when he's good he's just just good but in only in fits n starts, he gets swollowed up in the big
games.the problem I have is that I'm sick of people coming on here n saying he's proven in the premier league,but,what has he proven?and I'm sick of people saying he's a world class player!the way people talk bout him here you would think he's ronaldhino in his prime or something!hes just an average over priced player!your saying he's as good as xavi n scholes but modric wouldnt get his game for barca in a million years,but I know scholes would!modric is ment to be in his prime and he is still nowhere near as good as scholes on the verge of his retirement,so there's no comparison.im telling you now Modric would be a huge flop at utd..
But besides the point we don't need him,when we have kagawa,we need a tough tackling midfielder who can break down opposition and play ball too..

In the last 3 seasons,

Modric - 12 goals 16 assists

Sneijder - 19 goals 32 assists

Don't ever try to compare modric with Sneijder again!modric isn't good enough to lace his boots..

Modric plays in a different position to Sneijder. Modric sits in front of the defenders and Sneijder sits behind the striker. So clearly Sneijder would get more assists and goals. In fact I am rather impressed with Modric's stats considering he plays in a deeper position to Sneijder.

Sydney!

Strootman or martinez would be better buys for me

sparkyred

"Modric plays in a different position to Sneijder. Modric sits in front of the defenders and Sneijder sits behind the striker. So clearly Sneijder would get more assists and goals. In fact I am rather impressed with Modric's stats considering he plays in a deeper position to Sneijder.

Sydney!"

EXACTLY Syd!

How can people not see they play in a different position! LOL, shows some peopls don't actually watch these players and rely on stats...as an AM or SS I would expect Sneijder to get far more assists/goals than Modric who plays CM)...just like I'd expect a striker to score more tha a winger...not rocket science!

I certainly do take people's points on Martinez and Strrotman though - they would clearly both add some steel on top of helping to control possession

Gav

Modric would be o.k for 20m. 30m+ is ridiculous for a player who doesnt contribute anywhere near enough goals or assists. Scholes plays in a deeper role too but still contributes in terms of goals.
I would rather have dembele than modric. we already have a player who plays a simillar role to modric and thats carrick.

Millz

03 Jun 2012 08:44:41
According to the sun, we will have to pay 72m for modric,baines and tiote.
I would prefer felliani to tiote. Any news on modric coming to us ed?
Baines said he will decid future after euros {Ed002's Note - There is interest in Modric - at the right price.}

Modric ... so overpriced for a player who hasnt stood out at all.
We are looking for a midfielder whos got goals and the creative side to provide the assists.
His stats for last season dont lie
38 games in all comps
5 goals
6 assists

now that to me isnt a £30mil player
Hallis

Ive been shouting for Felliani for a long time now.. Think he would be great in our cm but can also play up front, behind the striker. Good passer, box to box and scores goals. Exactly what we need.

Fellani or tiote will never play for utd , theyre nowhere near good enough wouldn't improve the team in any way

Dustbin

Saw this myself this morning , so if the 30m on modric is true that would mean 21m on baines and tiote each or again if it's to to be believed in the rags 30m on modric 12M on baines and 30m on tiote SURLEY NOT !

Modric is world class! He starts the moves off, jus because he doesn't get the assist or the goal doesn't mean he has nothing to do with it. Him and Kagawa would b great

Big Mac

I would love Fellaini or Witsel to join us. We inquired about Witsel last rear apparently and were quoted 25m. Fellaini would be 20 - 25m as well. they are both around 24 and are excellent in attack, or defense, If we are going for players on the cheap, Then Marvin Martin will only cost 10 - 15m and M"villa 16-20m. That's 26-35m for two top midfielders. Or Martin and M'Vila for the price of Modric. Add Cissoko or Izzaugari (spelling) and we could get an attacking midfielder, a defensive midfielder and a left back for around 40 -45m along with Kagawa that's 4 top players for 57m upfront. We should get 20m from sales. I must add though that if the money is there my first choices would be Tiote, Kagawa, Fellaini and Alba but they'll cost 65-70 million
Mik

Modric is diabolical material,he ain't any better than what we already have!id go bananas if we pay 10m for him.he ain't world class and he hasn't proved nothing in the premier league.he hasn't done nothing in the champions league,or the international stage.theres much better players out there with pace,power assists and goals in them.for me modric is weak.

Ed002, you have said before that you think Modric is worth around £25m (In your opinion), do you know what sort of price United and Spurs are valuing him at? I know you do not usually like to answer these types of questions so you are free to bin this post. Just wanted to know how far apart they are each valuing him at.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Sorry Syd I don't. I would expect Spurs will seek over £30M but the price I gave seems fair.}

Some people on here who don't rate modric seriously need to properly watch the guy play live, not just on TV. He's a quality player and just what we need. I think at £25 million he would be a great buy. People think because he doesn't beat 4 defenders and put the ball in the top corner he cant be a good player!
Andy B

Bic mac,
Anyone can start off a move.my granny could do it.doesnt make anyone and definitely modric world class player.modric hasn't even proved he's a top player in the premiership never mind the world.so tell me how he's world class?a world class player,does it for a top team in a top league aiming to win the league,and the champions league,and he also proves he can do it on the international level.modric hasn't done any of these.modric has no pace,no strength,doesnt have the instinct for goals or assists,he can't go passed players.he hasn't an ounce of aggression in his body!believe me he's weak,he doesn't shine!if there's anybody who can end up doing what Veron did with us modric would do the same if not worse.if Fergie pays anywhere near 15m for him,he's lost his mind!

So a top player does it on international scene? well wot about messi then!! best player in the world but not so good for argentina

Well Messi plays for one of the best international teams on the planet!did you see him play the other night,tell me he wasnt magnificent!messis average performances are still brilliant in comparison even to world class players!

Modric is a very good , well accomplished cm in the epl, personallyif welcome him into the utd side! Hes good on the ball, good vision and keeps possession well, much like our current cm, and I can see him slotting in alongside carrick easily!

My front 6-

Valencia carrick modric Young

Kagawa

Rooney

Rd17

Rd17,
modric slotting in beside carrick is a nightmare!the two of them are very similer players.neither one of those players are anything special!well accomplished?so what has he accomplished?you need a creative player in front of your holding mf,not two!modric isn't creative enough!his vision is short sighted!i would be sick of we got him!not worth the money Spurs want for him!extremely overrated!

Carrick and Modric would be a very good pairing that would complement each other perfectly. Two box2box midfielders with Kagawa, Rooney, Valencia and Young ahead of them is pretty exciting IMO. Perhaps £25m plus Ferdinand would be a good move and bring in Benatia. No name may be sick if we bought Modric, but how would he feel if we couldn't get anyone other than Modric?

Sydney!

I honestly feel that most of the Modric-slaters only watch Spurs on MOTD and don't watch him closely live

Big Mac summed him up well. Modric starts off the moves like Scoles or Xavi do...are they crap?

Citing Modric's goals/assists stats are pointless as he is not a winger, AM or Striker so goals and direct assists are not his priority

Scholes was one of our best players since Christmas, how many goals and assists did he get? And how many tackles did he make? Modric would be replacing Scholes

Gav

I see modric as a very similar player to how scholes has been in the latter years of his career, I see him and modric both as deep lying playmakers to an extent, creatively helped by the (probable) addition of kagawa I think that is a very strong front six
Rd17

I agree Syd,

Carrick & Modric would work just fine in CM. A more athletic version of Carrick & Scholes from this year. Of course the dream would be Martinez & Modric with Kagawa sat in front : ) I have secretly been praying for those 3 in midfield for some months!

Gav

Modric isnt anywhere near as good as scholes or xavi !i just don't feel modric is worth the money either!take as a squad play for around 15m but then he'd just get in the way of better players out there!ya c I don't think carrick should play week in week out either!any other top European sides would walk all over us if we had Carrick n modric in cm.could you imagine those two trying to defend against them.absolute joke.why do you think fergie puts park in midfield against the top sides because he gets stuck in,and try's his heart out to win the ball.carrick or modric simply can't do that!modric isn't a player we need especially for 25 to 30m!

If we buy modric then we would need a midfield enforcer to play along side him like martinez or strootman and that aint gonna happen we will only buy one midfielder as we will already have bought kagawa !
modric and carrick would be good if we were controlling a game but against the likes of barcelona/madrid they would get tore apart. too lightweight need a robbo or keano type player.

sparkyred

Gav,Sydney,
Just listen to Sparkyred!modric and carrick together would be a crime!we don't need modric,we need a roy keane type player!mvilla would be a good addition!if there's any opposing midfielder we should get is Sneijder!and please don't come on and say oh he plays in behind the striker!yes he can play there but he didn't always!he play in scholes position aswell!he can do both!

SuperRed

Noname - I never said he is as good as Xavi or Scholes! I'm saying they all play the same position/role in the team. Many on this site seem to be slating Modric for not getting goals/assists but that is not his priority

Supered - if Carrick/Scholes was our best partnership in CM last year how would Carrick/Modric be a crime? Very similar I would say but at least Modric has more energy these days and can play 90mins more often. I would love to get a M'Villa type player too and would be happy for him to partner Carrick (who could do the playmaker role) in CM. That is another option. But I certainly wouldnt buy Sneijder to play in a 2 man midfield in the PL, just my opinion

Gav

Modric and Carrick...one word, Soft! Alright when we're dominating a team, lots of space going forward but up against a strong midfield....no chance!

J - Stand

03 Jun 2012 10:50:09
italian media reporting pogba is in turin for a medical
jred

03 Jun 2012 08:29:05
Vidic given green light to resume training in early July.