Manchester United Rumours Archive January 04 2012

04 Jan 2012 22:25:11
Has anyone else noticed that we don't seem to have any players that can put a decent ball into the box? For example, against Blackburn last week we had 17 yes SEVENTEEN corners, yet didn't come close to scoring any! I really think we need a dead ball specialist, or at least a left footed player than can cross a football.

UNITED_LEGENDS

Giggs is still good at that

Giggs is terrible at it.never beats the first man with corners etc. He may be a legend but hes not beyond criticism.to be honest his delivery has never been too gud from setpieces

Our corners never beat the first man, nani takes them all. specially against blackburn.. maybe its time to change the corner taker as they very rarely get to the edge of 6 yard box never mind arrive in there

04 Jan 2012 22:05:44
Thats it settled we need SAMBA

04 Jan 2012 22:02:39
I personally think we need to bring in alex and drogba from chelsea, they both want to leave and will give us good resources.
I also feel we should try and get kaka and another attacking midfield from somewhere, maybe even look at serie A or Liga BBVA.
I also feel we need a defensive midfielder to sure us up for example tiote.

04 Jan 2012 21:50:53
Rooney last year said that man utd didnt match his ambition, but Fergie lied and told him things would get better, I take it when he said that he didn't mention a midfield of Giggs and Park. welcome to the dark ages no more trophies til Fergie goes.

Ha. You really cannot make this up.
On another note, I have got a new batch of hair dyers coming.in, seems fergie`s is broken.

History will always only have one meaning, stuff that happened in the past

Totally agree. that's why the rooney bustup at the beginning of the window.

Why are we not buying anyone in midfield!! They were useless tonight...

Completely agree, worst I've seen in twenty years

Totally agree, need to get rid of Nani(can't cross the ball or take a corner, Carrick, Park, Evra(not good enough anymore), Rio, can't rely on Giggs for ever, disgraceful that one of the worlds best teams couldn't replace 1 creative midfielder, true sign the funds are no longer there, really hate to say it, but City are going to cruise to this title. sorry

Makes me so angry when idiots like you shout for fergie out after a couple of losses, same happened in 2005 then two years later we had probably the best team we've ever had! Have some faith in fergie!

No way fergi will get us back on track but he has to buy a top quality mid

Rooney is part of the problem. Did not try a leg tonight. We need (in priority order) centre half, centre mid, centre forward, left winger, left back , right back.

The centre half could be shrt term, possobly Samba or even Cahill.

If Rooney wants to go then he should be let go if someone pays silly money (anything over £45m).

The team for rest of season should be:
De Gea
Rafa, Smalling, Centre Half, Evra
Valencia, Jones, Centre Mid, Nani
Rooney, Welbeck

In summer we need to sell/release;
Fabio, Evans, Ferdinand, Evra, Gibson, Anderson, Young, Berbatov and Owen.

I would bring in:
Samba, Alba, Martinez, Rodwell, Shaqiri, Hazard and another if Rooney goes, possibly Torres.

Welbeck no way,not good enough,neither is chicarito,we need a new strikermaswell

Well done newcastle

Never heard so much rubbish in my life, I'm a united fan and I agree we were poor, but come on.... Trust that fergie knows. 1 or 2 more players are required but nothing as radical as your knee-jerk reactions.

Olly

Wow. What an utter load of nonsense. We were poor tonight, there is no denying that. But come on, we haven't exactly had it easy lately and were the victims of two tremendous goals and one awful mistake.
The fact remains that we have still accumulated more points than last season and are still going to be fighting for the title come the end of the season.
We do need players and Ferguson clearly looked for the right player in the summer, but reasons we are all aware of, it didnt happen.
The moment City start competing, the majority are decalring the cast majority of our team as little more than wastes of space.
Once we get our squad back in shape, I can see us going on a great run of form and still thoroughly expect us to be Champions come the end of the season.
End the doom and gloom and support the team!

Olly,
knee jerk??? its been blatently obvious that we are lacking in midfield for 3 seasons now.r u for real?

This talk about when our squad gets back in shape frustrates me.

This is a list of the players missing tonight apart from Vidic and Fletcher are out for the season at least:
Smalling, Cleverly, Young, Evans, Fabio, Gibson, Owen.
Smalling is a cert to start probably at RB, I think he needs to replace Rio at CB NOW
Cleverly showed potential earlier in the season but I think it is ridiculous that a club of United's stature is relying on a young kid and a 38 year old to provide midfield creativity.
Young is simply not good enough and has been either injured or missing in action since the Arsenal game
The rest are not and never will be good enough.

We conceded two goals tonight because we do not, in the absence of Vidic, have a centre back capable of getting his head on a 60 yard ball.

You are talking out your arse we have nobody who can create apart from Rooney ands he's the CF . We are playing players out of position cause we haven't got the right players, time to get rid of Nani,Giggs Berbaflop, park etc they are useless

I just can't understand how some united fans don't see that the team has been sh.t since the departure of cr7. they seem to be living in a bubble 'we are the best of the world, rooney is worldclass, etc...' wake up! we have been throughly ****ed by barca 2 times. i know some will tell we have been to 2 finals. but we lost them. we are manchester united and we don't settle for second best. if new worldclass players are not injected in the team we will soon die like pool. fergie talked about being on par with barca, i just don't see it with this team. we seem to have lost the 'never die attitude'. now before you can begin slating me being a pool fan ,s**tty fan or gloryhunter but i know i am and will always be a red mancunian.
Red Mancunia

Even when we win its the style of play that is a concern - United have always been about attacking football, playing with flair and terrifying opponents with fast skillful wingers (maybe not fast re Beckham but he ticked a few other boxes!). While we might be grinding out results most of the time we are a long way off the teams of the 90's or early 00's.

04 Jan 2012 19:19:08
"If the player wants to leave, we will have to listen to offers. But as of today, no offer for him has yet arrived," Oliveira told O Globo.


"The desire of the player is most important. If Ganso wants to leave Santos and our interests are preserved, we can negotiate."

The words of Santos president. Just putting in there so you can all poo-poo it now!

Apparently Ganso wants to join us immediately he cant wait to link up with the likes of Giggs and park or anderson. Clown

04 Jan 2012 18:14:49
Is there any truth in the Chris Samba rumour. Love to see him at the club we could use him.

He'd be a good squad player, better than mr reliable...(evans)

Heard that we had talks with him but I don't know If we are going to take it further

04 Jan 2012 17:42:53
Just throwing it out there the price tag for Chris Samba is pretty reasonable and i'm sure all the fans out there like me would love to see him at the club. We need a dominant centre back for Vidic and there are few as strong and good in the air as him!

04 Jan 2012 16:21:20
Gotze has agreed to stay at Dormund until 2013 - so another one we can stop speculating on until then!

Hobbes

04 Jan 2012 14:05:02
glad to see dalglish wasting more money on darren bent lol, on another note why does the media jump all over de gea when he flaps, but when reina does it nothings said.

Simply because he is young and plays for the best team in England. Get used to it, the criticism won't stop for a few more years.

United Till I Die 1987

Well Reina is a proven premiership goalkeeper and one of the best around!

Yes utd fans , if you watched the goal , you can see pepe was blindsighted by agger just when the shot happened , that along with the dip of the ball led to the goal , just one of these things that happen in football , but i dont expect you lot to be as cluded up on football matters on the pitch as us liverpool fans, de gea needs to be taken out of your team , the other keeper is by far a better goalie............lfc

Lfc you support liverpool, you know f*ck all about football. reina is on his last legs and every pool fan knows it. Reina will only get worse and worse where as DDG is gonna get better and better. DDG is gonna be a future number 1 at Spain, Reina will never get that privilege.

And as per usual, LFC finds an excuse as dumb as "the dip of the ball" "blindsighted".

LFC, you are what is classed as blindsighted. Still believe you have a better squad and gonna get top 4 this season. Top 6 this season, then you'll be saying goodbye to the awful man that is Suarez. Then it will be a farewell to the Kopites forever next season - relegation.

RedDevil92

Yeh right lfc he was blocked from seeing it same as that cock up the other week, dream on son

Pardoe

Blind sighted by Agger? He dived straight over the top of the ball LOL!

rpc

I wouldn't take much notice of lfc, he believes Liverpool will win the league next season. IMO Reina should have done better for the 2nd goal too. If you look at the camera shot behind the goal, the ball went a foot above his head, should have been stopped as it wasn't exactly a bullet header.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - You're wrong Syd mate, LFC said they will win it this year. I remember we laughed at him for ages about it.}

Reina's been the most overrated GK in the world for years now. No idea why Liverpool fans think he's so great, but maybe it just takes their minds off of their defenders, midfielders and strikers!

Isn't this supposed to be a United forum? Seriously lads stop taking the bait and just ignore them.

Best team in England? you're not even the best team in Manchester!! ha ha you boys make me laugh......

04 Jan 2012 13:26:02
Does any one know if the Reserves are playing Newcastle Res. as well tonight as it was postponed?

Dr Red

It was due to be played yesterday, but was postponed due to the weather (high winds)

04 Jan 2012 09:50:23
If the newspaper reports are true and Cahill is demanding £120k a week from Chelsea, then that will be why we looked at him briefly and then never went back. The bloke wants the same as what Ferdinand is earning. Why would we pay Cahill £120k a week to sit on the bench when Smalling & Jones who are both better are on around £40k-£50k a week. Absolute madness.

Or perhaps he wants Chelsea to baulk on the salary so that he can leave for free in the summer and join United. Perhaps Big Sam has been working overtime again? You can just imagine Cahill signing for United for free in the summer on £80k a week. You wouldn't put it past SAF & Big Sam.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - The paper reports are not true Syd. But he still wants a lot.}

I didn't believe the figures would be accurate Ed, however I can see Chelsea being a little stingy as they are trying to introduce a wage structure for the future and I can also see Cahill wanting more than he's worth because he knows Chelsea are saving money on him due to his low transfer fee. Do you see this being resolved Ed? I think it will due to the fact that there is so much time left in the window. Ed would you as a Chelsea fan prefer someone better than Cahill? Perhaps Subotic? Or are Chelsea buying him as a back-up?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I suspect that there will be a solution to the matter. I have no idea where you get this "wage structure" thought from - your alter ego? And I support Chelsea Syd, I am not a fan.}

When Chelsea come into the millions they had no choice but to offer very high wages in order to attract top players and to prevent them from choosing United, Real Madrid or one of the Milanese clubs over them, same as what City have had to do in the past few years to get the best players. But now Chelsea are an established "top club", after winning silverware, they can now attract players without paying them extortionate wages. So there is no need to pay overpay players anymore is there? Didn't Bruce Buck say that Chelsea want to become a self sufficient club? That they will aim to be self sufficient by 2015? Perhaps a more strict wage structure is the right way to put it? I don't mean more strict than last season or the year before, I meant more strict than the 2004/05/06 era.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - You are simply making all of this "wage structure" up Syd. How is this going to manifest itself? It is hopeless somethimes Syd because of this strange obsession with money that you have.}

Ed I think you are being completely unfair. All properly run clubs have a wage structure in place, all I am saying is Chelsea's isn't as relaxed as it was when Roman first took over. I am not saying Chelsea cannot afford to bring in top players and pay top wages, because they clearly can, just that they do not need to go over the top anymore as they are already an established top club. In a couple of years time City will no longer need to overpay for players. I thought that was a fair point, but obviously not, lets move on.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - How does this wage structure manifest itself at Chelsea?}

Syd just means they are slowly but surely trying to reduce the wage bill to not be such a high percentage of their revenue so they can compete when the FFP rules come in. At least I think. That is what is meant by the 'self sufficient' comment by Buck in my eyes.

I think they will be looking to get Pato in if Tevez does move to Milan and are trying hard to get the best deal on Cahill allowing for them to offer a more competative salary for Pato if they do get to the negotiation stages. That's just a thought of mine.

Sanshine

04 Jan 2012 02:21:00
Well hello all, been sept since my last post but been checking in on a regular basis, and before I get started hope all(even the city and pool fans who appear to post on here more often than their own sites) had a great xmas and all the best for 2012.

Now to get started I notice alot of lads are not to keen on Jack Rodwell, well get used to him as of the start of the 12/13 campaign he will be a Utd player, I posted in September that he would be signed before the Euro's something similar as to the way Jones and Young were signed last summer. Noted that there were rumours of a Chelsea interest last month but it was just some bu**s**t to fill a gap on the page. Am not aware of any coming's in January.

We could do with some cover for centre back though and might I state the obvious our midfield, where we have been so weak for a long long time. I agree with alot of lads on here who are asking for Morrison and Pogba to be played more regularly. Now in SAF I trust but why weren't they given oppurtunities against Wigan and Blackburn, we had Valencia and Park out of position in the centre against B'burn, why not play Pog and Mor, they'd of had Carrick and Jones to give them a bit of a dig out, seemed the perfect oppurtunity but yet I feel SAF may have bottled it. Will never forget watchin MOTD all those moons ago and Alan(dirty scouse)Hansen saying famously "you'll win nothing with kids". These are top drawer players, ok Morrison may have an issue or two but maybe if he starts getting a game or two and begins to get the feel of the OT turf then maybe he might cop himself on, settle down and become a Utd legend that we all believe he can become. Ran away a bit there but I haven't posted in a while.

Lorcan

I think SAF told earlier that he would sign a player only if he is world class and available. Do you guys think Rodwell fits into that category? I personally don't think so...
If he does sign for us, I would still be happy as I believe SAF knows football way better than me

Just a thought! If the top quality players we are looking for are not available now, why can't we look at loan options to patch up our current defensive/midfield problems and then look ahead in the summer like the Henrik Larsson loan deal sometimes back. Will this be a wise option?
AJ